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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #150 on: April 18, 2021, 09:14:10 AM »
I will be attending the virtual camp mustache in a couple of hours (from 1-6 eastern). It would be cool to see some Ohio people there. :)

They post zoom links about 5 minutes before each event on https://www.facebook.com/welovecampmustache

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #152 on: August 23, 2021, 07:56:29 AM »
Is anyone attending the EconoMe conference in Cincinnati in November? They released the news that MMM is going to be one of the speakers. A buddy and I will be there, hoping to meet up with some others as well.

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #153 on: August 24, 2021, 06:59:41 AM »
Thanks for sharing. It would be really cool to see Pete speak. I pulled up their site and read a bit of it. https://economeconference.com/

At first, I was having some trouble determining the purpose and target audience of this conference. They say: "We bring together thought leaders to guide us in questioning our assumptions about happiness, freedom, and prosperity through the lens of personal finance." So I was thinking it might be about promoting social change, in which case the target audience would be professionals and non-profit types? So naturally I was asking myself what's the benefit to an ordinary guy who's working on his own FIRE plans? Kept reading. Nope, it's for ordinary savers. It's going to build community and provide a lot of education, packed together into a two days.

OK, cool, but there's costs too. If I were to come solo from CLE, I think it would be a fairly expensive weekend. $200 conference fee (before fees and taxes), Friday and Saturday night in a hotel (assume $200), plus 330 miles each way, call it $330 in car costs. If the above costs could be reduced through carpooling and maybe some couchsurfing with local FIRE folks, I would carve out a weekend and pony up the registration fees. Any Clevelanders interested?

[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #154 on: August 24, 2021, 07:20:41 AM »
Seems like it is basically a FinCon competitor that is currently much smaller. Reading between the lines I think this is Diania's side hustle that she's using to help get herself to FIRE...

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #155 on: August 24, 2021, 07:56:24 AM »
blah blah blah...

[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]

It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.

Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!

Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).

Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #156 on: August 25, 2021, 12:02:30 PM »
blah blah blah...

[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]

It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.

Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!

Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).

Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
I'm having a similar cost calculation to yours in that I am all the way over in Mentor so driving WAY over to Avon 2 hours round trip for a 2 hour meet up which might be you and I is a challenge especially on a work day.  Will see as it gets closer if the mood strikes me and I will PM you if that happens, but those are my thoughts.  I do love the idea of just setting up times though rather than trying to plan here because seems it is weeks between posts.

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #157 on: August 27, 2021, 02:51:10 PM »
Thanks for sharing. It would be really cool to see Pete speak. I pulled up their site and read a bit of it. https://economeconference.com/

At first, I was having some trouble determining the purpose and target audience of this conference. They say: "We bring together thought leaders to guide us in questioning our assumptions about happiness, freedom, and prosperity through the lens of personal finance." So I was thinking it might be about promoting social change, in which case the target audience would be professionals and non-profit types? So naturally I was asking myself what's the benefit to an ordinary guy who's working on his own FIRE plans? Kept reading. Nope, it's for ordinary savers. It's going to build community and provide a lot of education, packed together into a two days.

OK, cool, but there's costs too. If I were to come solo from CLE, I think it would be a fairly expensive weekend. $200 conference fee (before fees and taxes), Friday and Saturday night in a hotel (assume $200), plus 330 miles each way, call it $330 in car costs. If the above costs could be reduced through carpooling and maybe some couchsurfing with local FIRE folks, I would carve out a weekend and pony up the registration fees. Any Clevelanders interested?

[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]

I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE. 

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #158 on: August 28, 2021, 08:26:12 AM »
I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE. 
Thanks for sharing your experience. Perhaps this isn't the event for me, since I'm probably in the 2022 FIRE cohort.


It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.

Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!

Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).

Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
I'm having a similar cost calculation to yours in that I am all the way over in Mentor so driving WAY over to Avon 2 hours round trip for a 2 hour meet up which might be you and I is a challenge especially on a work day.  Will see as it gets closer if the mood strikes me and I will PM you if that happens, but those are my thoughts.  I do love the idea of just setting up times though rather than trying to plan here because seems it is weeks between posts.
I totally understand and would feel exactly the same about driving to Mentor. Let's see if anyone shows on Tuesday and then after that we can talk about a better location for September.

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #159 on: August 30, 2021, 12:48:05 PM »
Thanks for sharing. It would be really cool to see Pete speak. I pulled up their site and read a bit of it. https://economeconference.com/

At first, I was having some trouble determining the purpose and target audience of this conference. They say: "We bring together thought leaders to guide us in questioning our assumptions about happiness, freedom, and prosperity through the lens of personal finance." So I was thinking it might be about promoting social change, in which case the target audience would be professionals and non-profit types? So naturally I was asking myself what's the benefit to an ordinary guy who's working on his own FIRE plans? Kept reading. Nope, it's for ordinary savers. It's going to build community and provide a lot of education, packed together into a two days.

OK, cool, but there's costs too. If I were to come solo from CLE, I think it would be a fairly expensive weekend. $200 conference fee (before fees and taxes), Friday and Saturday night in a hotel (assume $200), plus 330 miles each way, call it $330 in car costs. If the above costs could be reduced through carpooling and maybe some couchsurfing with local FIRE folks, I would carve out a weekend and pony up the registration fees. Any Clevelanders interested?

[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]

I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE.

Well that is a bit of a bummer as I am not new to FIRE but it gives me an excuse to go back down to my alma mater and catch-up with friends.

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #160 on: September 08, 2021, 07:24:19 AM »
I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE. 
Thanks for sharing your experience. Perhaps this isn't the event for me, since I'm probably in the 2022 FIRE cohort.


It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.

Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!

Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).

Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
I'm having a similar cost calculation to yours in that I am all the way over in Mentor so driving WAY over to Avon 2 hours round trip for a 2 hour meet up which might be you and I is a challenge especially on a work day.  Will see as it gets closer if the mood strikes me and I will PM you if that happens, but those are my thoughts.  I do love the idea of just setting up times though rather than trying to plan here because seems it is weeks between posts.
I totally understand and would feel exactly the same about driving to Mentor. Let's see if anyone shows on Tuesday and then after that we can talk about a better location for September.
Was checking in to see the report, but nothing.   Assuming that means it was not a roaring success?

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #161 on: September 08, 2021, 08:47:10 AM »
I was considering going since that location is close to me, but I decided against it because of the recent COVID case increases. When the pandemic subsides, Iíll seriously entertain attending a meetup. I went to one 4 years ago and it was a lot of fun. Lots of smart, interesting, and funny people showed up.

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« Reply #162 on: September 08, 2021, 09:10:31 AM »
So it seems out trend to meet is once every 4 years like the Olympics.   I wish I had a better idea (I do not or I'd suggest it) because the issues are real.    Traveling hours for a gathering at a restaurant or bar to chat about unknown topics is not a draw for most and I believe the results speak for themselves.   I believe the only way this works is regularly scheduled meetings with specific topics for each.   That way people can plan and also know if they are interested in the topic for that session.    I think without setting it up as a formal club will foster the same results.  I do not have the time currently to take that on as I volunteer in other groups (who function the same way and at least have mediocre attendance, hence why I am suggesting it) and am not looking to step away from those to open bandwidth for helping get a FIRE meetup operational, but maybe someone else wants to take the initiative and this idea will help.

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« Reply #163 on: September 27, 2021, 06:29:20 AM »
Was checking in to see the report, but nothing.   Assuming that means it was not a roaring success?

Naw...

Thanks for the nudge. I've been meaning to plan another one, but it seems I'm not really capable of maintaining a consistent presence in an online community. I get super excited and read everything for a few days, then I disappear for a few weeks/months. Maybe a meetup would solve that problem though. ;)

So it seems out trend to meet is once every 4 years like the Olympics.   I wish I had a better idea (I do not or I'd suggest it) because the issues are real.    Traveling hours for a gathering at a restaurant or bar to chat about unknown topics is not a draw for most and I believe the results speak for themselves.   I believe the only way this works is regularly scheduled meetings with specific topics for each.   That way people can plan and also know if they are interested in the topic for that session.    I think without setting it up as a formal club will foster the same results.  I do not have the time currently to take that on as I volunteer in other groups (who function the same way and at least have mediocre attendance, hence why I am suggesting it) and am not looking to step away from those to open bandwidth for helping get a FIRE meetup operational, but maybe someone else wants to take the initiative and this idea will help.
I'm trying not to be butthurt, but this sounds a lot like "wow, you sure f*cked everything up". It looked to me like nobody had made any effort in years. I thought maybe it would be worthwhile to see if people might come out of the woodwork if there was a formal date. Nobody offered any alternative ideas prior to the meetup (or since). This pep talk is not super-motivating me to want to continue trying to organize things.

I even considered reaching out to the NEOH ChooseFI people to see if they wanted to do a joint event.

But yeah, I'm not exactly feelin' it right now.

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #164 on: October 04, 2021, 10:36:46 AM »
Not meant as anything against you, kudos for trying.  That is certainly not what I meant, just sharing how I evaluated making the trip for me personally and why I did not attend.  It does seem there is not a very active FIRE community here is CLE, at least not one that ever looks on MMM.   I may peek at the ChooseFI chapter as with their podcast they do seem to have more activity as a national community.   My issue (and perhaps others) is that I am well into the autopilot stage where I just sock away what I can and check on my NW to post here in the tracking threads, so I am not looking for new ideas.   That's also part of the "problem" with FIRE and simple personal finance.    Once you realize this is really not that hard, that it is all about maintaining a savings rate and keeping spending in check you can learn or teach someone everything they ever need in about an hour, so again not like an investment club where we pretended we could pick stocks and presented on them and made ourselves feel like we had control over the uncontrollable.   Once you realize there is no secret you are missing it all becomes pretty basic.

I would just like to meet like minded people who are frugal and savers.   To me that is the value of meetups to get more people in my life who are not spendypants.

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Re: Any Clevelanders?
« Reply #165 on: October 05, 2021, 07:07:10 AM »
Not meant as anything against you, kudos for trying.  That is certainly not what I meant, just sharing how I evaluated making the trip for me personally and why I did not attend.  It does seem there is not a very active FIRE community here is CLE, at least not one that ever looks on MMM.   I may peek at the ChooseFI chapter as with their podcast they do seem to have more activity as a national community.   My issue (and perhaps others) is that I am well into the autopilot stage where I just sock away what I can and check on my NW to post here in the tracking threads, so I am not looking for new ideas.   That's also part of the "problem" with FIRE and simple personal finance.    Once you realize this is really not that hard, that it is all about maintaining a savings rate and keeping spending in check you can learn or teach someone everything they ever need in about an hour, so again not like an investment club where we pretended we could pick stocks and presented on them and made ourselves feel like we had control over the uncontrollable.   Once you realize there is no secret you are missing it all becomes pretty basic.

I would just like to meet like minded people who are frugal and savers.   To me that is the value of meetups to get more people in my life who are not spendypants.
Thanks for explaining. I was pretty feeling pretty cranky. I'm over it now. I've been keeping an eye on the ChooseFI folks and it looks like they are about to have an event. I'll post back here with a link if that happens.

I'm in very much the same boat as you. I could RE today, but working because I'm not convinced the stache is big enough, even though I sort of know it is. But also, I want to be traveling abroad and that's not really available for the moment. I can also do some good in the world by donating surplus income, which keeps me motivated.

I would also like to meet more frugal people and learn more about how they entertain themselves when not working.