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Mustachian Community => Meetups and Social Events => Topic started by: joet86 on September 13, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
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I seem to be the only person with a Mustache in Cleveland, OH. Prove me wrong!
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I'm about an hour and a half from you, an hour north of Pittsburgh just inside the PA border.
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I am a Clevelander answering your call from a few years ago. I hope that by now there may be a few more in beautiful NE Ohio. I would be interested in meeting other like minded folks in the area.
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Not Cleveland, but close enough. If NE Ohio is going to meet up, count me in.
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Southern suburb here! We're a little too old to consider early retirement, but we like frugal living and enjoy reading the blog and forums here.
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I want to offer an invitation to all for the NE Ohio Bogleheads group, which meets about every 2-3 months. The group is mostly focused on investing philosophies developed by Jack Bogle, the Founder of Vanguard Investments. There is a mix of group members, but most are near retirement age or retired. However, the low-cost index investing message is very appropriate for all ages (including me at 30 something). It is a very casual and low stress group interested in educating members (i.e. no sales people or financial advisors there). I am hopeful to increase the age diversity of the group as I am one of the younger members.
Here is a link:
http://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=133162
The next meeting is December 13th (weather permitting) in North Royalton. Check out the link above for more info or to be added to the group email distribution for updates.
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Akron, OH here!
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Euclid, OH here!
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Just wanted to give a reminder and update to any folks in the Cleveland, Ohio area. We will be holding a Bogleheads meeting on Saturday December 6th at 10am at the North Royalton Library. This is 1 week earlier than what I posted in a previous post. The main topics of conversation will be long term care insurance and firecalc, but this very knowledgeable group will offer insight on any other finance or retirement related topics that you may have. I am planning to ask insight into IRA allocation strategies for folks with a goal of ER. I read a very intriguing article by the mad fientist advocating a strategy to contribute to traditional IRA during working years and spend early retirement re-characterizing into Roth classification as a way to minimize tax burden. Typically the meetings are geared towards folks in retirement or pre-retirement phase, but I'm also available after the meeting (I'm in my 30s) if anyone wants to discuss FIRE topics for younger folks. Hope to see you all there!
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We're just outside of Cleveland. Too bad we missed the Bogleheads meeting since I'm just getting into that stuff now. Might be up for a meetup!
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Kent, OH here.
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I'm still in NE Ohio. Keep me in the loop.
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Add another to the list of NE Ohioans. I've actually attended a Boglehead meeting as well and am hoping to make the next one. The environment in that meeting is a bit stiff though, it would be great to have a more informal meeting.
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Add another to the list of NE Ohioans. I've actually attended a Boglehead meeting as well and am hoping to make the next one. The environment in that meeting is a bit stiff though, it would be great to have a more informal meeting.
Another in NEOhio. Not sure if I'm up for a Bogleheads meet if they bash on 4% SWR. I'm not down for 2% SWR and 10 or 12 more years to get it. I might attend one to learn more on the investing side and see how it is, but would prefer a MMM meetup, and less formal. I draw the line at "wearing shirts with buttons" to fit in.
A bunch of NE Ohio folks weighed in on this thread, too.
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/can-i-really-bike-to-work-(44-miles-round-trip)-in-ne-ohio/ (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/can-i-really-bike-to-work-(44-miles-round-trip)-in-ne-ohio/)
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Another in NE Ohio
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Add another to the list of NE Ohioans. I've actually attended a Boglehead meeting as well and am hoping to make the next one. The environment in that meeting is a bit stiff though, it would be great to have a more informal meeting.
Another in NEOhio. Not sure if I'm up for a Bogleheads meet if they bash on 4% SWR. I'm not down for 2% SWR and 10 or 12 more years to get it. I might attend one to learn more on the investing side and see how it is, but would prefer a MMM meetup, and less formal. I draw the line at "wearing shirts with buttons" to fit in.
A bunch of NE Ohio folks weighed in on this thread, too.
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/can-i-really-bike-to-work-(44-miles-round-trip)-in-ne-ohio/ (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/can-i-really-bike-to-work-(44-miles-round-trip)-in-ne-ohio/)
Nah its much more diverse and open minded than that at the local level. You get people who invest "by the numbers," people who want to learn how to invest better, government employees, etc. The meeting I went to was a good learning experience, they'll watch recent vanguard videos and discuss as a group as well as discuss different vehicles & instruments that people use and I learned about some more obscure things I had no idea about. I didn't hear anyone mention a SWR the entire time I was there. I also wore shorts/t-shirt and flip flops, although IDGAF what other people think of me but I wasn't the only one dressed that way. Just the fact that you are there is usually enough for people to be accepting of you, especially so if you're younger since most of the Boglehead crowd is nearing the retirement age.
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Brunswick, Ohio. Just southwest of Cleveland. Subscribed to updates in case anyone wants to meetup in the burbs.
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It appears that we have enough people interested in doing a meet up. I would suggest hitting up a bar in the middle of the Ohio bermuda triangle (Cleveland, Akron, Medina)... but I don't really have any suggestions. Maybe somewhere in Strongsville, Fairlawn or Parma?
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Sorry this is off topic, but I'm hoping some Cleveland area Mustachians can help me and my husband choose a place to live.
We both work from home, so we could live anywhere. (But are choosing the Cleveland area to be near my family.) No kids. We could rent or buy, probably wouldn't want to spend more than $250,000 on a house, $180,000 or less would be awesome.
What Northeast Ohio city is closest to a Longmont? Right now we're staying with my parents in Stow, where you need a car to go anywhere.
It seems like the most walkable neighborhoods are around Case, Cleveland Heights, University Circle and also downtown, Ohio City/Tremont, and Lakewood. Did I miss any? These areas seem good, though they generally have higher taxes.
Then again we'd really like to be walking distance to some kind of wooded trail.
If you could live anywhere in NEO where would you live?
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Sorry this is off topic, but I'm hoping some Cleveland area Mustachians can help me and my husband choose a place to live.
We both work from home, so we could live anywhere. (But are choosing the Cleveland area to be near my family.) No kids. We could rent or buy, probably wouldn't want to spend more than $250,000 on a house, $180,000 or less would be awesome.
What Northeast Ohio city is closest to a Longmont? Right now we're staying with my parents in Stow, where you need a car to go anywhere.
It seems like the most walkable neighborhoods are around Case, Cleveland Heights, University Circle and also downtown, Ohio City/Tremont, and Lakewood. Did I miss any? These areas seem good, though they generally have higher taxes.
Then again we'd really like to be walking distance to some kind of wooded trail.
If you could live anywhere in NEO where would you live?
Sounds like a wonderful plan! Sadly, I'm not a native Ohioan so I'm not as familiar with the areas. I think Solon might be a good option, but I think it might be too pricey. I know all the levels of schools are packed together within a half mile or mile of each other and the public library is right across the street so if you found a home in the neighboorhoods there you could easily walk/bike to all of those. My wife and I are part of the Cleveland Hiking Club (if you are not familiar with it you should check it out. Oldesy hiking club in the country. Who knew in Cleveland?) and we did a hike in Solon last month and walked that area by the schools and there were lots of houses but my guess is from seeing them that they are over $250K, but there may be other neighboorhoods we did not walk there that might be in your range. Back to the wooded trail situation, again I'd look at the CHC if you really want to find some great people to hike with and places to go. They have between 10-20 hikes in the area every day, 365 days a year. It's really fun and very Mustachian in cost ($80/year for a couple).
That's all I can offer.
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Thanks caracarn! My husband has found a few houses he likes in Solon but I've been ruling it out because I didn't like driving there when I was in high school for some reason. I should definitely reconsider. Also that reminds me I wanted to look into joining the Solon Philharmonic, an "orchestra for professional and amateur musicians." That would be fun. Someone else recommended the Cleveland Hiking Club recently, I think one of my friends parents. Sounds pretty good!
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About 15 minutes from Cleveland. Getting a a group together to just brain storm would be awesome.
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Cuyahoga Falls, here - wife and I moved here from another state about two years ago. We are both engineers, hah. Would love to meet up with likeminded people. We live less than 15 minutes from a lot of different trails in the CVNP that we like to hike or bike on, and I'd assume that is probably a pretty common interest in this crowd.
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I had the bright idea to start a group at meetup.com, but had no idea that it was not a free service. Not sure that I want to spend $120/year when the other meetup groups that I came across seemed to meet once or twice and then had little traffic.
I do like the idea of having a way to get together with other MMM folks, but this board does not seems to be the way to do it, so if anyone has an alternative that would work, let's talk about it!
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I'm from Cleveland. I grew up on the east side and live on the west side now. You know I'm legit' 'cause I'm talking about my side of town :)
I know there are a bunch of other Clevelanders on the board. There was a spirited discussion about he feasibility of bike commuting during the winter around here and a lot of people came out of the woodwork.
I'm guessing there just isn't enough interest to meet up with people in person. I'd be happy with a thread or two on here to discuss Cleveland specific things.
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I'm from Cleveland. I grew up on the east side and live on the west side now. You know I'm legit' 'cause I'm talking about my side of town :)
I know there are a bunch of other Clevelanders on the board. There was a spirited discussion about he feasibility of bike commuting during the winter around here and a lot of people came out of the woodwork.
I'm guessing there just isn't enough interest to meet up with people in person. I'd be happy with a thread or two on here to discuss Cleveland specific things.
Also, you said "legit'", so that makes you legit'.
I started that crazy biking thread and was surprised how many folks came out to say they are in the area, or used to live in the area. Someone interested in spearheading this could probably find the Cleveland/Akron area users on that thread, more users on this thread, and PM all those folks a link to a new thread in "Meetups and Social Events". There is even a pinned post for Mustache Map which might identify others to PM. We don't see every post, but there is a good chance PMs will get noticed. I'd suggest trying to set it up 3 or 4 weeks out so people have a chance to find the post and get it on a calendar.
I would be up for a scheduled hike at CVNP, depending on timing. Between family and work I have some time for things like this, but not a lot, so timing may not work out, and that's ok. But I've exchanged a number of PMs with caracarn, so would be nice to meet him and others.
Crazy biking thread link as a resource:
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/can-i-really-bike-to-work-(44-miles-round-trip)-in-ne-ohio/msg925799/#msg925799 (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/can-i-really-bike-to-work-(44-miles-round-trip)-in-ne-ohio/msg925799/#msg925799)
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Hi! I'm newish to the state. I'm on the east side of Cleveland. I'm always up for a meetup.
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Seattle mustachian here: heading to Cleveland to work on the Clinton campaign. Would welcome the chance to connect with Cleveland-based mustachians while I'm in town (10/31-11/9).
Any iconic local joints or foods I need to sample to give me the quintessential Cleveland experience?
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Are you going to be in the east or west side campaign office (Lakewood or Shaker Hts.)? That will help us give you some ideas for places to visit.
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It looks like on the weekend, Mon and Tuesday I will work from this location 1368 E. 34th St.
On the weekdays, they've not yet assigned me to an office, but my guess/hunch is the Lakewood area. Can update when I know more!
Cheers,
A.
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It looks like on the weekend, Mon and Tuesday I will work from this location 1368 E. 34th St.
On the weekdays, they've not yet assigned me to an office, but my guess/hunch is the Lakewood area. Can update when I know more!
Cheers,
A.
That part of the east side is a bit of a desert. If you head toward University Circle, there's Little Italy, check out Corbo's or Presti's for baked goods. Mama Santa's is also good. The art museum is also worth a visit (and free!), with a good cafe.
Slyman's Restaurant on St. Clair is good, but the hours are a little funky.
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Good stuff - many thanks!
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NoStacheOhio good suggestions. If you end up in the Lakewood office, I would recommend checking out:
Melt for crazy grilled cheese sandwiches. They have locations on both sides of town, but the original is in Lakewood.
Voodoo Tuna for fusion sushi.
Barrio for tacos. They have downtown and Lakewood locations.
East 4th and W6th street have some good restaurants too. I don't eat downtown often, so I can't really recommend any of them personally.
Enjoy your stay in Cleveland!
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A fellow campaign volunteer lives in Little Italy and yesterday took us to an Italian bakery she likes. Turned out to be Presti's. I had the tamboli with spinach and sausage. So good. And so reasonably priced. Four dollars +. In Seattle, we don't have old school Italian places such as Presti's and even if we did, the price would be much higher. Probably $7+.
Hoping to try Slyman's today!
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A fellow campaign volunteer lives in Little Italy and yesterday took us to an Italian bakery she likes. Turned out to be Presti's. I had the tamboli with spinach and sausage. So good. And so reasonably priced. Four dollars +. In Seattle, we don't have old school Italian places such as Presti's and even if we did, the price would be much higher. Probably $7+.
Hoping to try Slyman's today!
Nice! I'm glad you had a chance to try some places in Little Italy.
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Slyman's = super good stuff. Delicious sandwich and really nice people/vibe. Bonus points that it's right around the corner from the SEIU hall from which we are staging GOTV work.
Thanks for the tips!
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Cleveland Eastsider here !!! What a great forum, my wife and I got started with this around one year ago and it enabled us to be completely out of college debt now. :-)
So we want to continue with this lifestyle and would love to hear from and meet with more mustachians in Cleveland. :-)
Best wishes
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Cleveland people, I'm now back in Seattle, licking wounds and wanting to hide under the covers, but I want to express appreciation to the residents of your city for their friendliness, warmth and appreciation to the out-of-state and foreign volunteers who came to Cuyahoga County to get out the vote for Clinton.
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Cleveland people, I'm now back in Seattle, licking wounds and wanting to hide under the covers, but I want to express appreciation to the residents of your city for their friendliness, warmth and appreciation to the out-of-state and foreign volunteers who came to Cuyahoga County to get out the vote for Clinton.
I'm glad you enjoyed your stay. I hope if you ever get to return to Cleveland, it is under better circumstances.
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Might be late to this, but I would be interested in a meetup, although young (25) and new to the MMM ways. I rent in Stow for now and commute to Hudson for work by bike. I'll be here unless I get relocated, I moved here like 4-5 years ago.
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Hi NEO People,
I am down in Cuyahoga Falls but would be interested in a meetup sometime. Hopefully this page picks up traction again.
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I would love to meet up with MMMers in the greater Cleveland area.
I am in the city of Cleveland, but can drive to a meeting place within, say, an hour-drive radius.
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Hi NEO People,
I am down in Cuyahoga Falls but would be interested in a meetup sometime. Hopefully this page picks up traction again.
I would love to meet up with MMMers in the greater Cleveland area.
I am in the city of Cleveland, but can drive to a meeting place within, say, an hour-drive radius.
Welcome guys! I'm glad to see some more Clevelanders coming out of the woodwork.
We seem to be a reclusive bunch here in Cleveland. I don't know if anyone has ever had a successful meetup here on the Cleveland thread.
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I claim Cleveland to people outside of Cleveland, but I'm in a western suburb of Avon.
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I claim Cleveland to people outside of Cleveland, but I'm in a western suburb of Avon.
Close enough :)
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Hi NEO People,
I am down in Cuyahoga Falls but would be interested in a meetup sometime. Hopefully this page picks up traction again.
I would love to meet up with MMMers in the greater Cleveland area.
I am in the city of Cleveland, but can drive to a meeting place within, say, an hour-drive radius.
Welcome guys! I'm glad to see some more Clevelanders coming out of the woodwork.
We seem to be a reclusive bunch here in Cleveland. I don't know if anyone has ever had a successful meetup here on the Cleveland thread.
None that I have heard.
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Hi NEO People,
I am down in Cuyahoga Falls but would be interested in a meetup sometime. Hopefully this page picks up traction again.
I would love to meet up with MMMers in the greater Cleveland area.
I am in the city of Cleveland, but can drive to a meeting place within, say, an hour-drive radius.
Welcome guys! I'm glad to see some more Clevelanders coming out of the woodwork.
We seem to be a reclusive bunch here in Cleveland. I don't know if anyone has ever had a successful meetup here on the Cleveland thread.
Well let's change that - this month is extremely busy for us due to our dog watching side gig but we should be able to meet sometime in April.
How does everyone's schedule look? Anyone up for a meet-up in about a month?
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Hi NEO People,
I am down in Cuyahoga Falls but would be interested in a meetup sometime. Hopefully this page picks up traction again.
I would love to meet up with MMMers in the greater Cleveland area.
I am in the city of Cleveland, but can drive to a meeting place within, say, an hour-drive radius.
Welcome guys! I'm glad to see some more Clevelanders coming out of the woodwork.
We seem to be a reclusive bunch here in Cleveland. I don't know if anyone has ever had a successful meetup here on the Cleveland thread.
Well let's change that - this month is extremely busy for us due to our dog watching side gig but we should be able to meet sometime in April.
How does everyone's schedule look? Anyone up for a meet-up in about a month?
Do you have any ideas for an activity or where to meet?
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El Arepazo sounds great to me - I have never been there.
To summarize all suggestions, what do people think about:
6:30-9pm, at El Arepazo, Monday, April 17?
If we put something on the calendar, we are more likely to get together :)
If anyone is super eager to join but absolutely cannot make this time, please suggest alternatives.
I imagine that after getting to know each other at El Arepazo, we all may want to do something more mustache-an, like a picnic in a metro park in summer
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I'm over on East side, so the proposed location is a little far for me, but not sure I could make it next month anyway. Work is quite busy. Maybe most of the people on the forum are West siders.
As another suggestion, it might be possible to book a conference room at a library which would be free. Just an idea for possible spots
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I would be OK if we meet at one of public libraries - that would be in the MMM spirit :)
And I am also on the East side. It is not ideal for me to meet on the West side, but I would do it.
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I will pencil it in as well for 4/17 and see if anything changes as we get closer.
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Great! I am putting a reminder in my calendar too.
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I live within walking distance of this restaurant so I have no excuse to not go. East siders, it's not hard at all to reach as long as there aren't any traffic jams.
Take I480W
Get off at the Clague Rd. Exit.
Make a right on Clague Rd.
Make a right on Lorain Rd.
Watch our for W228th St. on you right.
Make a right on W228th St. It is on the corner of Lorain and W228th.
If there is no parking behind the restaurant, you can park on W228th St. It is residential.
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I'm down to go to a library or the restaurant. Either one works for me.
I'll be honest and say it will be kind of unusual to meet a bunch of strangers in a library, reason being that it's a quiet/formal place and any awkwardness will not be easily masked as it would in a more opened locale. Kind of like the first day of school in your homeroom class as opposed to the playground.
But seriously, I'm down for either one.
I was thinking the same thing and I disagree with he folks who say meeting at a restaurant is anti-MMM. Unless the meal is way outside our normal spending and doesn't become a daily occurrence I think it falls into the "ok" category.
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Is April 17 still a go?
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Sweet. I'll be there :)
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Hey, does anyone know anything about that used bike shop on Lorain down toward Fairview? It looks like it's either super shady or super awesome.
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Hey, does anyone know anything about that used bike shop on Lorain down toward Fairview? It looks like it's either super shady or super awesome.
You mean the one by Kamm's Corner? Yeah, dude's kind of an ass. I went there once and he just pretty much ignored me while I was browsing. I asked if he ever came across older BMX bikes and he just shook his head and went back to his phone. So needless to say, I won't spend my money there.
The one on Lorain and 90th is good and the one on W25th too. Usually Craigslist is the way to go.
I was perusing CL, and it seemed like half the postings were from that shop in the first place (even when I filtered for private sellers). Had to sift through lots of crap to not really find anything.
As an aside, anyone want to trade a Gary Fisher Joshua F4 for something more practical?!
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Earlier I wasn't sure if I could make it, but I'll be there on 4/17/17, El Arepazo 6:30pm. Thanks for throwing something out there. I see craiglepaige and meis are in.
Any others?
boyerbt?
FrugalHeights?
NoStacheOhio?
Craiglepaige, just wear your orange tux and we'll all find each other, no problem.
Sooooo...
(http://i.imgur.com/j7OEQUM.gif)
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So... Yeah I could wear it.
"Could" does not sound like you are fully committed to the idea... How else will we find each other? Help a guy out, here, would ya?
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Sorry, no way I can make it. Life just got crazy this week. :(
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/digging-out-of-a-hole/msg1509583/#msg1509583
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Ahhh how about I wear a name tag? LoL
Who could have predicted the initial response was that it was really an option for you to show up like that? I think if you commit to the orange tux, commits to attend will spike up. Would certainly be memorable.
@NoStache, sucks is an understatement. Glad to hear you are navigating the system to get as much timely info as possible. Not knowing what a diagnosis might mean and how much it changes your/wife's future outlook is really tough. Sending out positive thoughts, agree to let us know if we can do anything.
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Thanks all, ironically, we'll be literally around the corner on the 17th at Fairview. Hopefully we'll know more at that appointment.
@craigle thanks for offering, we don't really need anything right now, it's just the waiting. Fortunately, I work at the CCF mothership, so everything is fully covered. I can't imagine what it must be like to go through this and also worry about insurance. I should probably stop bitching about them increasing the rates and copays by what is (in reality) token amounts.
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I'm in; didn't know this was a thing until a heads-up PM today.
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I am in for April 17 6:30 pm meet up.
Does anyone know the situation about parking at that restaurant or about public transport that goes there?
Should we have a sign "MMM" or something on the table? Is there anyone who lives close by and can come at 6:30 sharp with such a sign? Or maybe someone who knows that place well can recommend what's best? (which table we should gather at, etc.)
NoStacheOhio, I am very, very sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed for as smooth treatment and recovery as it can get.
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Thank you craiglepaige!
I will be on the lookout for an MMM crowd (I will know when I see it, I guess).
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I don't know man... Maybe, just maybe.
It's a celebration of maturity and badassity on our lives, so maybe ;)
That's right, keep it as a possibility. There is nothing wrong with bringing out your inner bad-ass.
I myself have a special hat I wear for such occasions...
Should we have a sign "MMM" or something on the table?
I'll not further belabor my point on the orange tux, but it is an elegant solution.
I will be on the lookout for an MMM crowd (I will know when I see it, I guess).
I plan to count the number of 10+ year old hatch backs in the lot on my way out.
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How about a 13yo Saturn Vue w/144k miles, is that okay?
That's a lot of NEOhio winters! I sold a 2000 Tacoma last year, it was having multiple failures and was too difficult for me to work on due to rust. Now I pull a utility trailer with my hatchback (which is not 10 years old).
I'm not here to judge, just observe, learn, and hopefully contribute. I'm more interested in people's stories and motivations than what they are driving, but I do assume older vehicles and hatchbacks will predominate compared to an "average" cross-section of the population.
4/17/17 El Arepazo 6:30pm MMM Cleveland attendees so far (7):
craiglepaige +2 coworkers
mies
homestead neohio
frugal heights
lamil
Feel free to add your name to the list and re-post so craiglepaige has some idea of table size.
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FrugalHeights + 1
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Haha I'm actually just playing.
Good. I don't want anyone to think I'm actually going to physically punch them in the face just because my fists and their face will actually be in the same room.
It will be nice to sit down with like minded people ;)
Agreed.
4/17/17 El Arepazo 6:30pm MMM Cleveland attendees so far (8):
craiglepaige +2 coworkers
mies
homestead neohio
frugal heights +1
lamil
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This thread blew up since I checked this morning. I'm glad to see more people have committed to doing this.
Craiglegpaige, do you know if the restaurant has any gluten free options? I might bring my wife if she feels like joining us but she is gluten intolerant.
NoStacheOhio, I hope everything turns out okay with your wife.
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I unfortunately have to bow out from this meetup too. Just found out that I will be traveling bright and early Monday morning for work - hope you all have a good time and that we can schedule another event in the near future.
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Since this is actually turning into an event that looks like it WILL happen (versus the many other attempts to get anyone together), I may have to make an effort to participate. Still a bit up in the air but I'll put some serious planning into seeing if I can make it. Will keep everyone posted. Great to see it looks like a good handful of folks.
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I am planning to be there too. If craiglepaige is the only one, how will I find/recognize you craiglepaige? I am a female with dark-frame glasses, long hair, and no facial make-up whatsoever. I'll come with my husband.
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I will be there. I may be the only one, but even if so, I will happily eat some good food on the cheap and enjoy the moment ;)
Did you find the other thread where we all confirm we're going and then go somewhere else? Dammit.
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Craiglegpaige, do you know if the restaurant has any gluten free options? I might bring my wife if she feels like joining us but she is gluten intolerance.
I called the restaurant and asked about Gluten and was answered with a, "I'm sorry, what?". So needless to say I don't think they are gluten free. I'll be honest and say I'm not hip to gluten so maybe there is something in the menu that your wife could eat but not really sure. Is the menu available online?
As far as as seating, I told the guy on the phone about the planned visit on Mondayand he said to call about 1/2 hour ahead so he could set the tables. We will be seated to the left as you walk in. The place is small, so you won't miss the tables.
Thanks for checking in to that! I couldn't find a menu online. I'll just come solo. If the restaurant isn't aware of what gluten is, it's probably safer for her to avoid their food until we have a better understanding of the ingredients that are used.
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4/17/17 El Arepazo 6:30pm MMM Cleveland attendees so far (8):
craiglepaige +2 coworkers
mies (wife not attending due to gluten uncertainty)
homestead neohio
frugal heights +1
lamil
I still count 8, but carcarn was a "possible" and said he'd give an update. I'll send him a PM.
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I will be there.
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Big thanks to CraigLepaige for setting this up for us. I really enjoyed meeting everyone. If we do another meet up, I hope I can remember everyone's real name :D
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I had a lot of fun - it took my mind off my super insane work schedule and helped me refocus on important things in life. Thank you guys!
Next time maybe we can have a potluck in a park when the weather is nice.
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I'm also down to meet at a park as you said. Hope you guys liked the food.
I had a great time, though there was a certain something missing. The walls were plenty orange, though, and that mostly made up for it. The pupusas were awesome and it was a good place for an initial meetup of 8 folks.
Do you guys like to hike? We could do a meetup at a park where we eat a potluck dinner then walk a few miles. There are a few trails in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park that would be nice, but I'm always open to exploring new trails others know about that are closer in to Cleveland. I might be the furthest south of the attendees last night, and CVNP is south of me.
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Sorry I missed it, sounds like it was a good time.
Our appointment went well. We're looking at another minor surgery and that's it. There's a little bit more information to gather, but it looks like the cancer was earlier than we initially thought. So if they can biopsy with clean margins, she'll be cancer-free.
I'm also down to meet at a park as you said. Hope you guys liked the food.
I had a great time, though there was a certain something missing. The walls were plenty orange, though, and that mostly made up for it. The pupusas were awesome and it was a good place for an initial meetup of 8 folks.
Do you guys like to hike? We could do a meetup at a park where we eat a potluck dinner then walk a few miles. There are a few trails in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park that would be nice, but I'm always open to exploring new trails others know about that are closer in to Cleveland. I might be the furthest south of the attendees last night, and CVNP is south of me.
Yes! I've been wanting to get out more, but work, life, parenting, excuses, etc.
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I am up for hiking. Count me in. Any hiking location works for me.
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I'd be willing to go hike CVNP. As long as I don't have any existing plans, I can attend.
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@NoStache glad for what sounds like good news given what you know. Hoping for a successful minor surgery and peace of mind all around.
OK, would-be-hikers, I can suggest a few hikes for CVNP. These all have picnic areas if we want to have a potluck or brown bag dinner first. Others are welcome to suggest hikes further north (more centrally located). In the spirit of getting something on the calendar, how about Tues May 16, 6:00pm, weather permitting? We can start later if needed based on work schedules and travel time, but we need enough daylight to hike after eating.
Ledges Trail is really nice, good rock outcroppings and overlook, 2.2 miles.
https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/upload/Ledges_2016.pdf (https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/upload/Ledges_2016.pdf)
Brandywine Gorge Loop Trail is nice, too, and when hiked clockwise you see Brandywine Falls near the end. 1.4 miles.
https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/upload/Brandywine-Falls-Area-Trails-2016-2.pdf (https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/upload/Brandywine-Falls-Area-Trails-2016-2.pdf)
For something more rigorous, there is the Plateau Trail, which is 5 miles. This might be a bit too much for a weeknight if eating together or for new hikers, but Oak Hill trail is 1.8 miles at the same location. If we have a big group, we could eat then split into two smaller groups based on how far people want to hike.
https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/upload/Oak-Hill_2013_final_for-web-5.pdf (https://www.nps.gov/cuva/planyourvisit/upload/Oak-Hill_2013_final_for-web-5.pdf)
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OK, would-be-hikers, I can suggest a few hikes for CVNP. These all have picnic areas if we want to have a potluck or brown bag dinner first. Others are welcome to suggest hikes further north (more centrally located). In the spirit of getting something on the calendar, how about Tues May 16, 6:00pm, weather permitting? We can start later if needed based on work schedules and travel time, but we need enough daylight to hike after eating.
I'm up for CVNP, but I'll be in Syracuse that week.
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I'm up for CVNP, but I'll be in Syracuse that week.
Let's try to set a date that you could make it, since you had to miss out on the first one.
I can't do the week of 5/8. Is the week of May 1 too soon for people? I could do Monday May 1 or Tuesday May 2. 10 day forecast is showing 60% chance of rain, but that can change a lot between now and then. I'm fine hiking in all weather, but not everyone might be, and dinner in the rain is no fun.
If that doesn't work, we're looking at the week of May 22.
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Hey guys, sorry I could not make it.
As an idea for hiking I will through out the suggestion of joining a hike of the Cleveland Hiking Club. You do not need to be a member to attend and the nice thing is that the hikes are planned and organized so you do not need to plot out a route etc. Once on their website just go to Hiking Schedule tab, and maybe one of those could work out. My wife and I have been members for a bit over a year and it's a nice Mustachian option and it is also the oldest active hiking club in the country about the celebrate it's 100th anniversary soon, so it was certainly a surprise find when we came across it. It makes for a super easy hiking plan as you just get to show up and enjoy and they offer so many hikes every day of the year that there is usually something you can find that fits with your schedule and interests. For this group it might be a good thing to look in to because I think most of you are West Siders and a majority of the hikes seem to be in that area. That's the only downside my wife and I have had with it is it is tough to spend 45-60 minutes driving to a hiking location.
http://clevelandhikingclub.org/
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Maybe let's punt to early June?
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I haven't been on the forums lately, and I'm bummed that I missed this. Hopefully I find out about the next meetup before it happens!
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Maybe let's punt to early June?
We waited more than 2 years from the initial post to the first meetup, so I think we can wait 2 months between the first and second meetup. Again in the interest of getting something on the calendar, new proposals Mon June 5 6pm or Tues June 6 6pm.
@caracarn - We missed seeing you there, hopefully a future one will work out. The Cleveland Hiking Club looks great as a resource for LOTS of local hikes. They have annual 26 and 40 mile hikes! I think a focused Mustachian meeting separate from club hikes is still of interest for those who want to talk FIRE strategies and share stories and motivations with a group who "gets it", especially if we plan to share a meal together.
@Iam-Claire - glad to hear there is another Cleveland MMMer interested, we'll try to set a date pretty far in advance so you know about it.
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@caracarn - We missed seeing you there, hopefully a future one will work out. The Cleveland Hiking Club looks great as a resource for LOTS of local hikes. They have annual 26 and 40 mile hikes! I think a focused Mustachian meeting separate from club hikes is still of interest for those who want to talk FIRE strategies and share stories and motivations with a group who "gets it", especially if we plan to share a meal together.
Just tossing it out to make people aware, even for their own personal enjoyment. We were surprised when we stumbled upon it. We were just googling "cleveland hiking" trying to figure out new places to walk and found that gold mine. Not pushing for CHC, but just adding some adjustments to what we've seen happen that might make it seem less unlikely to work for your purposes. In most cases on the hikes people are walking and talking in small 2-4 person groups as it is hard to hear further than that, so if people wanted to talk with a group that "gets it', they can easily do that. If the hike does have a meal at the end, it is still individual groups sitting down at tables however they want, so the MMMers who wanted to hang together could easily do that and no one would be offended. It's not like we show up at a restaurant and have them set up a long table for 30 or something. Just food for thought, as if we piggybacked on these once in a while it removes virtually all the planning other than saying a group of us are headed for a given hike. I find it gets me out hiking a lot more than I otherwise would because it is so simple, and I get to meet 20-30 people each time (that's about the average I see on a given hike). Might also get some converts to MMM lifestyle as many times people overhear what is being said and join in to learn more. We've learned some pretty interesting things about a lot of topics on these hikes.
With regards to making it out for me personally it is just a challenge being married with a lot of kids. Always something needs to be done at home and I'm usually not home until 6:30 at best so the weeknight meetups will almost never work for me. Maybe one of these days. My wife is OK with frugal, but not enough to meet a bunch of people talking about it. I mentioned the Monday event to her that I was unable to get to and she just rolled her eyes and told me it was fine if I wanted to hang out but she had zero interest. Monday she had errands and I ended up having to pick up some stuff on the way home so it just was not working on the calendar. Not sure if a lot of the other folks that made it are kidless, but we find our time to socialize is just tough right now beyond anything within 30 minutes of the house, and this location was just too far.
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May is super busy for me, but June works great.
Previously proposed Jun 5 or 6 at 6pm works.
Hiking works too for last week of May or later. It seems to be better to do during a weekday (probably goes without saying). Any hiking place is good for me.
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Thanks! Now that I know something is in the works I'll be sure to keep an eye on this thread.
I'm in Shaker Heights but I'm willing to drive a reasonable distance for a meetup.
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Any update?
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I do no think anything is planned by anyone.
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Just checking in. New Cleveland member here.
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Just checking in. New Cleveland member here.
Welcome! Are you an east sider, west sider, or somewhere else? If you prefer not to say, it's cool :)
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Just checking in. New Cleveland member here.
Welcome! Are you an east sider, west sider, or somewhere else? If you prefer not to say, it's cool :)
Thanks. I am presently a "near west-sider" in Edgewater. Will be moving in a few months to Brooklyn, which i guess is still Westside.
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Just checking in. New Cleveland member here.
Welcome! Are you an east sider, west sider, or somewhere else? If you prefer not to say, it's cool :)
Thanks. I am presently a "near west-sider" in Edgewater. Will be moving in a few months to Brooklyn, which i guess is still Westside.
Nice! I'm on the west side also. I know a few other posters are as well. Good to see more locals on the board.
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Yes, nice to see more.
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Welcome!
We definitely need to have another meetup soon. We had a great time last time. I may be willing to host, as long as I'm not judged for having too many old cars :(
Consider yourself judged. I'll be damned if I'm seen at a house with old cars ;) As long as I don't have anything planned, I'm down for another meetup wherever it occurs :)
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Bumping this. Anyone interested in another meetup?
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I would be willing to go to another meet up. Do you have a place, time, or activity in mind?
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I am in.
East Side would be ideal for me.
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How does grabbing a few drinks and bowling sound? I'm thinking a weekend day with enough notice so everyone can make it. How does Saturday, February 17, 2018 around 6PM work for everyone?
If we're good with the east side, I'm thinking Corner Alley in uptown.
Thoughts?
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works for me
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I checked with Mrs. mies and it looks like we already have plans for that night :( You don't have to reschedule on my account, I just wanted to let you know I won't be able to make it.
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Maybe I'll catch the next one. That weekend is birthday celebration time for my sons.
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I'll see what's going on, but always interested.
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I'd also be open to having it at a more central location. Where is everyone located? I am in Valley View myself.
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I知 on the west side, but I have no problem meeting up in other parts of town. The only thing that keeps me away from a meetup is if I already have something planned or if trying to get ther would get me stuck in rush hour traffic.
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I壇 be down for a meet up now. Just a warning I知 still working on this stuff so I知 not FIRE yet.
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I'd also be open to having it at a more central location. Where is everyone located? I am in Valley View myself.
How to do you like Valley View? Strongly considering buying a house there when the times comes. I come from a rural area and it just seems like "me", while also conveniently located in the central of the metro.
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Clevelander here. Not a full grown stache but it's growing
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Clevelander here. Not a full grown stache but it's growing
welcome!!
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I壇 be down for a meet up now. Just a warning I知 still working on this stuff so I知 not FIRE yet.
From the last meeting, I don't think anyone was FIRE'd yet. We are all working towards the same goal.
Yes, working....I hope toward FIRE, but always to efficient use of my resources, as much as is possible with six kids etc.
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I was just notified that I'll be traveling for work on the day we planned the meetup, unfortunately. If someone wants to take over organizing it that's fine but I won't be able to make this one :(
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We ended up scheduling college visits for one of my children that weekend, so I will be out of town so will not be able to attend.
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I was just notified that I'll be traveling for work on the day we planned the meetup, unfortunately. If someone wants to take over organizing it that's fine but I won't be able to make this one :(
I suggest bumping the date out a few weeks since it seems like Feb 17 is not going to work for most who are interested.
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Bumping this to try again. Looking at Saturday August 18th at the Winking Lizard in Independence this time. Thoughts?
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Bumping this to try again. Looking at Saturday August 18th at the Winking Lizard in Independence this time. Thoughts?
Thanks for attempting to set this up. My calendar looks clear for the 18th and Independence is a great location for me.
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I should be able to make that date. Independence is a nice central location and is easy to reach from any part of town. Rockside is a ghost town on a Saturday afternoons too so traffic should be pretty light.
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Call me tentative for that date. I'd like to make it to another MMM meetup.
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Bumping this to try again. Looking at Saturday August 18th at the Winking Lizard in Independence this time. Thoughts?
Hi all. Westsider new to the forum here. Would really love to meet with local Mustachians but can't make 8/18 date. Pls let me know if you reschedule!
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bump for visibility!
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Hi Everyone. I've been searching for a Cleveland/Northeast Ohio FI-based group for a while now and finally found one. If anyone has any others to recommend, please share.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChooseFINEOHIO/
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Thanks L2. I just joined.
For the 8/18 meetup as of now:
3 confirmed
1 tentative
1 cannot make it
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I have to change my tentative to a no as I'll be camping with my sons that weekend. Maybe I can catch the next one.
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I知 thinking 8/18, 12PM at the Winking Lizard Independence for the three of us that are confirmed. Any conflicts?
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I should be able to make that.
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Same here. Probably can't do much later as I'll likely go to the Indians game that day.
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Awesome. I still count 3 of us, but any last minite adds are welcome!
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Hey All!
Wife and I are planning a possible move from the Brunswick area (west side) to Beachwood/Shaker Heights. We need some info on the area. We've got two kids (5 and 3) and are looking to get a feel for the area. Anyone interested in jumping on a zoom call with us one evening to tell us your thoughts? Sorry to hijack the thread. I don't want to mess it up more than I already have so feel free to DM me if you're open to talking.
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Hey guys, it looks like I will not be able to attend the meetup on Saturday. I have family passing through town and my dad wants to take us all out for lunch. Most of my day will be tied up with them visiting. Sorry to flake on you so close to the meetup :( The plans were made kind of last minute and I haven稚 seen these relatives in over a decade
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Jumpstarting an old thread here. I have been having some financial discussions with friends and acquaintances through Facebook and someone asked about a meetup. Is anyone in the Cleveland area interested in getting together in the near future?
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I would be interested. Things get busier for me this time of year at work and with helping my parents with yard work, but if the time and place you choose works with my schedule, I would attend.
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I'd be interested as well. I'm about 40 minutes south of Cleveland.
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Might be, same as others. Depends on schedules.
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Not sure if you guys have heard of this movie. So I got approval for a screening of a new documentary, "Playing with Fire" to take place at Regal 16 in Willoughby on Monday July 15th. I helped crowd fund this thing on Kickstarter and it just was released to us in streaming last month and is awesome. Include a bit from MMM, and I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to help spread the word. Needing a way to explain to friends and family what this FIRE thing is all about? Please check it out and share the link with anyone you want as for the movie screening to take place we need to get to a minimum number of tickets. I am not making anything directly off of this but am hosting it with my side hustle financial coaching business I am trying to gain some traction with, which may or may not generate any interest. Hope to see some of you there and please help spread the word for a great view of the committing to the FIRE journey done at warp speed
www.tugg.com/events/playing-with-fire-iwzv
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Not sure if you guys have heard of this movie. So I got approval for a screening of a new documentary, "Playing with Fire" to take place at Regal 16 in Willoughby on Monday July 15th. I helped crowd fund this thing on Kickstarter and it just was released to us in streaming last month and is awesome. Include a bit from MMM, and I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to help spread the word. Needing a way to explain to friends and family what this FIRE thing is all about? Please check it out and share the link with anyone you want as for the movie screening to take place we need to get to a minimum number of tickets. I am not making anything directly off of this but am hosting it with my side hustle financial coaching business I am trying to gain some traction with, which may or may not generate any interest. Hope to see some of you there and please help spread the word for a great view of the committing to the FIRE journey done at warp speed
www.tugg.com/events/playing-with-fire-iwzv
Anyone interested? We still need 43 tickets to be purchased before the screening is secured. There is a meetup at the local BW3s after the movie to chat about the film and all things money. Hope everyone can make it.
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I see the total went down to 38. Do we even have 38 more people on the board from the Cleveland area, or even 19 with someone to bring?
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I see the total went down to 38. Do we even have 38 more people on the board from the Cleveland area, or even 19 with someone to bring?
We might be running short on NEO people on the site but hope everyone has and continues to share the info on social media.
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I see the total went down to 38. Do we even have 38 more people on the board from the Cleveland area, or even 19 with someone to bring?
We might be running short on NEO people on the site but hope everyone has and continues to share the info on social media.
Yes, as I've shared on other channels, Tugg (the site helping us run this event), says the events that actually happen require ticket buyers to become part of the "sales" pipeline. Otherwise we do "run short" of just one or two of us tooting the horn. At this point, like anything, the low hanging fruit has been picked for me, and I'd assume likewise for Brett. But for others you know people we do not who respect your opinion and might just come along because they'd like to spend some time with you and would be OK doing it at a movie and a restaurant afterwards.
At this point we have 34 left. Which means we've got over 50% (44) that are already reserved. Doing that in a bit over three weeks is a pretty good pace. With others helping finding the remainder should be almost easy, as we have probably gotten to the tipping point where is each person gets 1-2 more we might have enough. I've been a pretty blatant promoter to everyone I know talking this up to the point where people have asked me I myself am actually in the film. I need to sheepishly reply that no, I am not, but I believe in the message enough to talk about it this passionately. I will be buying one more ticket for my wife, so I know at least one more will sell from my end (right now I just have my ticket in the mix).
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I see the total went down to 38. Do we even have 38 more people on the board from the Cleveland area, or even 19 with someone to bring?
I also am not sure how many of the people from this board even saw it here. It seems most of the traction was from the ChooseFI NEO board, but obviously I do not know how many of those are in both place as clearly the three of us are.
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I see the total went down to 38. Do we even have 38 more people on the board from the Cleveland area, or even 19 with someone to bring?
I also am not sure how many of the people from this board even saw it here. It seems most of the traction was from the ChooseFI NEO board, but obviously I do not know how many of those are in both place as clearly the three of us are.
It's good to know people from around NEO are aware you are trying to get a showing. Whether we can actually get enough people to commit to it, I appreciate you taking the initiative to try to get a screening here!
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The viewing of Playing with FIRE is confirmed! The theater must have decided to move it to a larger room as this morning it said we had 70 tickets reserved with only eight tickets remaining. As of this reply, the website now states that there are 47 seats available. The more the merrier!
https://www.tugg.com/events/playing-with-fire-iwzv?fbclid=IwAR0ZUInhY4DbUL0LXgvJyWMM56Ps8QLcL1CHLbBHeA1PFjuuHJrbzZ-elYU
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Yo Cleveland! I just landed. Once everyone is vaccinated, can we all meet up?
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I'm closer to Columbus now but would be interested if a meetup happens in the futuer.
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I will be attending the virtual camp mustache in a couple of hours (from 1-6 eastern). It would be cool to see some Ohio people there. :)
They post zoom links about 5 minutes before each event on https://www.facebook.com/welovecampmustache
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psst (https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/camp-mustache-events/camp-mustache-midwest-cm*mw-cincinnati-oh-422-4242022)
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Is anyone attending the EconoMe conference in Cincinnati in November? They released the news that MMM is going to be one of the speakers. A buddy and I will be there, hoping to meet up with some others as well.
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Thanks for sharing. It would be really cool to see Pete speak. I pulled up their site and read a bit of it. https://economeconference.com/
At first, I was having some trouble determining the purpose and target audience of this conference. They say: "We bring together thought leaders to guide us in questioning our assumptions about happiness, freedom, and prosperity through the lens of personal finance." So I was thinking it might be about promoting social change, in which case the target audience would be professionals and non-profit types? So naturally I was asking myself what's the benefit to an ordinary guy who's working on his own FIRE plans? Kept reading. Nope, it's for ordinary savers. It's going to build community and provide a lot of education, packed together into a two days.
OK, cool, but there's costs too. If I were to come solo from CLE, I think it would be a fairly expensive weekend. $200 conference fee (before fees and taxes), Friday and Saturday night in a hotel (assume $200), plus 330 miles each way, call it $330 in car costs. If the above costs could be reduced through carpooling and maybe some couchsurfing with local FIRE folks, I would carve out a weekend and pony up the registration fees. Any Clevelanders interested?
[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]
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Seems like it is basically a FinCon competitor that is currently much smaller. Reading between the lines I think this is Diania's side hustle that she's using to help get herself to FIRE...
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blah blah blah...
[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]
It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.
Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!
Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).
Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
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blah blah blah...
[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]
It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.
Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!
Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).
Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
I'm having a similar cost calculation to yours in that I am all the way over in Mentor so driving WAY over to Avon 2 hours round trip for a 2 hour meet up which might be you and I is a challenge especially on a work day. Will see as it gets closer if the mood strikes me and I will PM you if that happens, but those are my thoughts. I do love the idea of just setting up times though rather than trying to plan here because seems it is weeks between posts.
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Thanks for sharing. It would be really cool to see Pete speak. I pulled up their site and read a bit of it. https://economeconference.com/
At first, I was having some trouble determining the purpose and target audience of this conference. They say: "We bring together thought leaders to guide us in questioning our assumptions about happiness, freedom, and prosperity through the lens of personal finance." So I was thinking it might be about promoting social change, in which case the target audience would be professionals and non-profit types? So naturally I was asking myself what's the benefit to an ordinary guy who's working on his own FIRE plans? Kept reading. Nope, it's for ordinary savers. It's going to build community and provide a lot of education, packed together into a two days.
OK, cool, but there's costs too. If I were to come solo from CLE, I think it would be a fairly expensive weekend. $200 conference fee (before fees and taxes), Friday and Saturday night in a hotel (assume $200), plus 330 miles each way, call it $330 in car costs. If the above costs could be reduced through carpooling and maybe some couchsurfing with local FIRE folks, I would carve out a weekend and pony up the registration fees. Any Clevelanders interested?
[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]
I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE.
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I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Perhaps this isn't the event for me, since I'm probably in the 2022 FIRE cohort.
It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.
Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!
Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).
Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
I'm having a similar cost calculation to yours in that I am all the way over in Mentor so driving WAY over to Avon 2 hours round trip for a 2 hour meet up which might be you and I is a challenge especially on a work day. Will see as it gets closer if the mood strikes me and I will PM you if that happens, but those are my thoughts. I do love the idea of just setting up times though rather than trying to plan here because seems it is weeks between posts.
I totally understand and would feel exactly the same about driving to Mentor. Let's see if anyone shows on Tuesday and then after that we can talk about a better location for September.
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Thanks for sharing. It would be really cool to see Pete speak. I pulled up their site and read a bit of it. https://economeconference.com/
At first, I was having some trouble determining the purpose and target audience of this conference. They say: "We bring together thought leaders to guide us in questioning our assumptions about happiness, freedom, and prosperity through the lens of personal finance." So I was thinking it might be about promoting social change, in which case the target audience would be professionals and non-profit types? So naturally I was asking myself what's the benefit to an ordinary guy who's working on his own FIRE plans? Kept reading. Nope, it's for ordinary savers. It's going to build community and provide a lot of education, packed together into a two days.
OK, cool, but there's costs too. If I were to come solo from CLE, I think it would be a fairly expensive weekend. $200 conference fee (before fees and taxes), Friday and Saturday night in a hotel (assume $200), plus 330 miles each way, call it $330 in car costs. If the above costs could be reduced through carpooling and maybe some couchsurfing with local FIRE folks, I would carve out a weekend and pony up the registration fees. Any Clevelanders interested?
[Note: This is the point at which it would be super useful if we already knew each other... Anyone down for a meetup?]
I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE.
Well that is a bit of a bummer as I am not new to FIRE but it gives me an excuse to go back down to my alma mater and catch-up with friends.
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I attended Econome 2020, and got to see some familiar faces within the FIRE movement, but the content is targeted to people who are less familiar with FIRE. It is more of a motivational event to draw people into the FIRE journey, rather than giving mind-blowing strategies and tactics to reach FIRE.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Perhaps this isn't the event for me, since I'm probably in the 2022 FIRE cohort.
It's time to pull the trigger on a Cleveland meetup.
Rather than ask for opinions, I'm going to propose something for THIS MONTH (aka next week)!!!
Note: I'm sure there are better ways to do this and I welcome recommendations for more frugal meetups, better locations, and more convenient times. Please send them my way and we can plan better for our September meetup (tentatively September 28 until I get further feedback).
Location: Winking Lizard in Avon, Ohio (just off I-90 at Rt83)
Date: Tuesday, August 31
Time: 6pm-8pm (or later if people come and fun happens)
RSVP: by PM to me (so I know how big of a table to get and so I can give you my phone number)
I'm having a similar cost calculation to yours in that I am all the way over in Mentor so driving WAY over to Avon 2 hours round trip for a 2 hour meet up which might be you and I is a challenge especially on a work day. Will see as it gets closer if the mood strikes me and I will PM you if that happens, but those are my thoughts. I do love the idea of just setting up times though rather than trying to plan here because seems it is weeks between posts.
I totally understand and would feel exactly the same about driving to Mentor. Let's see if anyone shows on Tuesday and then after that we can talk about a better location for September.
Was checking in to see the report, but nothing. Assuming that means it was not a roaring success?
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I was considering going since that location is close to me, but I decided against it because of the recent COVID case increases. When the pandemic subsides, I値l seriously entertain attending a meetup. I went to one 4 years ago and it was a lot of fun. Lots of smart, interesting, and funny people showed up.
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So it seems out trend to meet is once every 4 years like the Olympics. I wish I had a better idea (I do not or I'd suggest it) because the issues are real. Traveling hours for a gathering at a restaurant or bar to chat about unknown topics is not a draw for most and I believe the results speak for themselves. I believe the only way this works is regularly scheduled meetings with specific topics for each. That way people can plan and also know if they are interested in the topic for that session. I think without setting it up as a formal club will foster the same results. I do not have the time currently to take that on as I volunteer in other groups (who function the same way and at least have mediocre attendance, hence why I am suggesting it) and am not looking to step away from those to open bandwidth for helping get a FIRE meetup operational, but maybe someone else wants to take the initiative and this idea will help.
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Was checking in to see the report, but nothing. Assuming that means it was not a roaring success?
Naw...
Thanks for the nudge. I've been meaning to plan another one, but it seems I'm not really capable of maintaining a consistent presence in an online community. I get super excited and read everything for a few days, then I disappear for a few weeks/months. Maybe a meetup would solve that problem though. ;)
So it seems out trend to meet is once every 4 years like the Olympics. I wish I had a better idea (I do not or I'd suggest it) because the issues are real. Traveling hours for a gathering at a restaurant or bar to chat about unknown topics is not a draw for most and I believe the results speak for themselves. I believe the only way this works is regularly scheduled meetings with specific topics for each. That way people can plan and also know if they are interested in the topic for that session. I think without setting it up as a formal club will foster the same results. I do not have the time currently to take that on as I volunteer in other groups (who function the same way and at least have mediocre attendance, hence why I am suggesting it) and am not looking to step away from those to open bandwidth for helping get a FIRE meetup operational, but maybe someone else wants to take the initiative and this idea will help.
I'm trying not to be butthurt, but this sounds a lot like "wow, you sure f*cked everything up". It looked to me like nobody had made any effort in years. I thought maybe it would be worthwhile to see if people might come out of the woodwork if there was a formal date. Nobody offered any alternative ideas prior to the meetup (or since). This pep talk is not super-motivating me to want to continue trying to organize things.
I even considered reaching out to the NEOH ChooseFI people to see if they wanted to do a joint event.
But yeah, I'm not exactly feelin' it right now.
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Not meant as anything against you, kudos for trying. That is certainly not what I meant, just sharing how I evaluated making the trip for me personally and why I did not attend. It does seem there is not a very active FIRE community here is CLE, at least not one that ever looks on MMM. I may peek at the ChooseFI chapter as with their podcast they do seem to have more activity as a national community. My issue (and perhaps others) is that I am well into the autopilot stage where I just sock away what I can and check on my NW to post here in the tracking threads, so I am not looking for new ideas. That's also part of the "problem" with FIRE and simple personal finance. Once you realize this is really not that hard, that it is all about maintaining a savings rate and keeping spending in check you can learn or teach someone everything they ever need in about an hour, so again not like an investment club where we pretended we could pick stocks and presented on them and made ourselves feel like we had control over the uncontrollable. Once you realize there is no secret you are missing it all becomes pretty basic.
I would just like to meet like minded people who are frugal and savers. To me that is the value of meetups to get more people in my life who are not spendypants.
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Not meant as anything against you, kudos for trying. That is certainly not what I meant, just sharing how I evaluated making the trip for me personally and why I did not attend. It does seem there is not a very active FIRE community here is CLE, at least not one that ever looks on MMM. I may peek at the ChooseFI chapter as with their podcast they do seem to have more activity as a national community. My issue (and perhaps others) is that I am well into the autopilot stage where I just sock away what I can and check on my NW to post here in the tracking threads, so I am not looking for new ideas. That's also part of the "problem" with FIRE and simple personal finance. Once you realize this is really not that hard, that it is all about maintaining a savings rate and keeping spending in check you can learn or teach someone everything they ever need in about an hour, so again not like an investment club where we pretended we could pick stocks and presented on them and made ourselves feel like we had control over the uncontrollable. Once you realize there is no secret you are missing it all becomes pretty basic.
I would just like to meet like minded people who are frugal and savers. To me that is the value of meetups to get more people in my life who are not spendypants.
Thanks for explaining. I was pretty feeling pretty cranky. I'm over it now. I've been keeping an eye on the ChooseFI folks and it looks like they are about to have an event. I'll post back here with a link if that happens.
I'm in very much the same boat as you. I could RE today, but working because I'm not convinced the stache is big enough, even though I sort of know it is. But also, I want to be traveling abroad and that's not really available for the moment. I can also do some good in the world by donating surplus income, which keeps me motivated.
I would also like to meet more frugal people and learn more about how they entertain themselves when not working.
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Not meant as anything against you, kudos for trying. That is certainly not what I meant, just sharing how I evaluated making the trip for me personally and why I did not attend. It does seem there is not a very active FIRE community here is CLE, at least not one that ever looks on MMM. I may peek at the ChooseFI chapter as with their podcast they do seem to have more activity as a national community. My issue (and perhaps others) is that I am well into the autopilot stage where I just sock away what I can and check on my NW to post here in the tracking threads, so I am not looking for new ideas. That's also part of the "problem" with FIRE and simple personal finance. Once you realize this is really not that hard, that it is all about maintaining a savings rate and keeping spending in check you can learn or teach someone everything they ever need in about an hour, so again not like an investment club where we pretended we could pick stocks and presented on them and made ourselves feel like we had control over the uncontrollable. Once you realize there is no secret you are missing it all becomes pretty basic.
I would just like to meet like minded people who are frugal and savers. To me that is the value of meetups to get more people in my life who are not spendypants.
Thanks for explaining. I was pretty feeling pretty cranky. I'm over it now. I've been keeping an eye on the ChooseFI folks and it looks like they are about to have an event. I'll post back here with a link if that happens.
I'm in very much the same boat as you. I could RE today, but working because I'm not convinced the stache is big enough, even though I sort of know it is. But also, I want to be traveling abroad and that's not really available for the moment. I can also do some good in the world by donating surplus income, which keeps me motivated.
I would also like to meet more frugal people and learn more about how they entertain themselves when not working.
So not checked the boards since at least this time as it was in my "new replies to post" feed.
Just reading the last line and also my last line, for some reason the thought hit me. Not sure if it has any relevance but is my reality so tossing it there for folks to think on.
I think folks who truly "get" the FIRE movement and embrace it are then also ones who would have a hard time justifying just spending money to eat and possibly drink just to meet. I'm not a big drinker (at all) so I never go to bars etc. except for a work event that was there and I had to attend. I do like food so going out to get some with my wife is something we do to entertain ourselves. For me I guess the challenge of the typical spots is what I shared above. I'm regularly evaluating options in my life against each other. Is that time that I need to be away from my wife and just doing what I do more enticing than not? The biggest hurdle is there are no relationships in this group as friends or such that would change that equation so it becomes a very ow bar to not choose a MMM meetup over nearly any other known quantity. As stupid as it sounds I'd me more likely to show up to a meetup at a library or park (when it's warmer) where there is not an expectation that I need to spend money on food etc. as it just removes one more reason in the equation to say I'm spending money needlessly with an unknown benefit. To give you another example of how frugal folks entertain themselves, I read (free, library books great CLEVENET access), have some streaming for entertainment ($24.64/month for Hulu and Netflix, plus 3 year prepaid Disney+), and then play sims on my computer. I do things like American Truck Simulator and Farming Simulator (coming up on 2,000 hours in that one). With the latter found a terrific online community that hosts persistent servers that run in real time. The server I am a farm manager on, has 6 of us, and they are from all over the world. Some have had babies, been through COVID, job issues, child issues, in short just daily life. There is a bond there that is a type of friendship and I find my self wanting to talk to the guy from Northern Ireland who is studying to get his CDL and change careers, or the one from Sweden who raises a few horses as a hobby with his partner and who has two little toddlers who've been sick for the last month. Then we help each other out in the sim as I was helping him bale and store his hay just yesterday for hours. I'd love to meet them in person. Why? Because I've gotten to know them and have a relationship. So that meandering story that seemed a bit random come full circle to the point here.
I'm not sure that until people start connecting in some way that the tipping point will be reached to meet in person over any even slightly more than trivial distance. As I said, if there were ten people here on the east side who set up a time and it took me 10 minutes to get there, I'm enough of an extrovert that I'd be there in a heartbeat. After all I understand that great friendships can develop from random meetings too. But for whatever reason that is not the hand I've been dealt in life right now, as everyone is over on the far more boring (IMO) west side. For a non-Mustachian the west side is wonderful. Lots for restaurants, places to shop, places to drink, places to waste money I'm not interested in wasting. I love to virtually farm for hours and be on voice chat or typing chat with folks and get to know them while sharing an experience we all enjoy. If someone we find a way to connect a group of us in a chat or some virtual activity then driving to me a blukraken who I know his real name is Joe and who used to play little league as a kid like I did and loves baseball and we can lament about the atrocity that seems to be coming to MLB with adding the DH to the National League then I have a bigger draw for me to get out of my house and meet him to talk about Mustachian things. I've got to care about meeting you more than I care about reading the next chapter of that book with my wife or watching the next episode of Big Sky with her that has been sitting on our PlayOn server ($60 for lifetime commercial free playing of Hulu) for two months because we just are not that focused on TV. But there is not even enough motivation for Clevelanders to get to a keyboard on their phone or their desk and regularly type out a few words here, so I think the barrier is just too high for a real meetup until that changes.
So that's me sharing my thoughts on why I think this thing never goes anywhere when folks try to set a date. It's not you. It's the barriers each of us have and the opportunity costs we all weigh that keep us choosing something else over meeting up. I've seen it in journals on this board. People have met, sometimes while traveling to the other side of the world, because of chats they have had here, but they talked every few days. So let's flip the dynamic a bit and see if we can't get all of us feeling a bit more connected and wanting to meet that person behind the keyboard in person. You've tossed out the first idea "what do frugal people do to entertain themselves". I've shared mine. Who's next?