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Learning, Sharing, and Teaching => Investor Alley => Topic started by: kenmoremmm on October 12, 2017, 03:32:03 PM

Title: where's that chart again?
Post by: kenmoremmm on October 12, 2017, 03:32:03 PM

in one of the other threads here, someone posted a chart that showed what your investment returns would look like had you invested just prior to the next major stock market correction/crash. can someone post it again?

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: VoteCthulu on October 12, 2017, 05:58:48 PM

Do you mean this one?http://awealthofcommonsense.com/2014/02/worlds-worst-market-timer/ (http://awealthofcommonsense.com/2014/02/worlds-worst-market-timer/)

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: kenmoremmm on October 13, 2017, 04:20:09 PM

yep. i thought there was a graph too, but the article is fine. thanks

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: Tyler on October 13, 2017, 05:11:29 PM

You might also find this helpful:  https://portfoliocharts.com/portfolio/drawdowns/

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: SeattleCPA on October 13, 2017, 07:42:23 PM

You don't mean this, do you? E.g., if you look at some particular point on horizontal axis (like 40 years out), you can see that the range outcomes runs from just over $500,000 to nearly $2,500,000. (That's one way to view the risk of a portfolio.)

Or another way to view the risk is using the vertical axis to see the range of years required to reach some portfolio value like $500,000... the chart suggests best case you're looking at about 15 years and worst case maybe 37, 38 years.

(https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/long-run-stock-market-return-chart-dollar-outcomes.png)

This came out of the blog post I did here: https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/myth-long-run-stock-market-return-chart/

Which was basically in response to this MMM thread: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/investor-alley/unreliability-of-long-run-stock-market-returns/

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: Livingthedream55 on November 02, 2017, 10:01:28 AM

This one?

https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=4ecfa978-d0bb-4924-92c8-628ff9bfe12d (https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=4ecfa978-d0bb-4924-92c8-628ff9bfe12d)

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: rab-bit on November 02, 2017, 10:09:31 AM

Quote from: Livingthedream55 on November 02, 2017, 10:01:28 AM

This one?

https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=4ecfa978-d0bb-4924-92c8-628ff9bfe12d (https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=4ecfa978-d0bb-4924-92c8-628ff9bfe12d)

Love that chart! Thanks for posting it.

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: Livingthedream55 on November 02, 2017, 10:22:05 AM

Quote from: rab on November 02, 2017, 10:09:31 AM

Quote from: Livingthedream55 on November 02, 2017, 10:01:28 AM

This one?

https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=4ecfa978-d0bb-4924-92c8-628ff9bfe12d (https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=4ecfa978-d0bb-4924-92c8-628ff9bfe12d)

Love that chart! Thanks for posting it.

Yes I like the visual - kind of reassuring that (historically at least) the market tends to begin an upward direction within 1-3 years of a downturn. Puts it in perspective if we are in it for the long haul.

Title: Re: where's that chart again?
Post by: kenmoremmm on December 26, 2018, 03:46:50 PM

where's that chart that shows what the stock market has done with all the little "world events" placed along the time horizon? it shows WW2, vietnam, 9/11, black monday, great recession, etc.