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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2250 on: February 10, 2018, 09:00:20 AM »
The funny thing to me is, I don't even remember the 2016 correction of 13.3%.. I vaguely remember the almost 20% correction in 2011.

Only reason I remember is I got lucky with some market timing in 16 bc we were buying a house and I sold all my taxable in case or first house didn't sell in time and got lucky with dumping it back in at the bottom

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« Reply #2251 on: February 10, 2018, 09:20:18 AM »
The funny thing to me is, I don't even remember the 2016 correction of 13.3%.. I vaguely remember the almost 20% correction in 2011.

Only reason I remember is I got lucky with some market timing in 16 bc we were buying a house and I sold all my taxable in case or first house didn't sell in time and got lucky with dumping it back in at the bottom

I'm reminded of the early 2016 correction by the only red numbers in my NW column (started tracking in late 2014). Unless there's a massive market rebound, they'll have some company when I update at the end of this month.

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« Reply #2252 on: February 10, 2018, 10:19:35 AM »
The funny thing to me is, I don't even remember the 2016 correction of 13.3%.. I vaguely remember the almost 20% correction in 2011.

Only reason I remember is I got lucky with some market timing in 16 bc we were buying a house and I sold all my taxable in case or first house didn't sell in time and got lucky with dumping it back in at the bottom

I'm reminded of the early 2016 correction by the only red numbers in my NW column (started tracking in late 2014). Unless there's a massive market rebound, they'll have some company when I update at the end of this month.

I'm in the same boat! Started tracking NW in 2012 and I think my only month with a drop in NW was early 2016.

I won't be able to outsave my way out of this one =/

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« Reply #2253 on: February 10, 2018, 10:44:14 AM »
Bottom was in.  I missed it.

 It's hard to make predictions,
especially about the Friday future.

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« Reply #2254 on: February 10, 2018, 11:01:37 AM »
Jeez, way to beat a great joke to death. I bet yer a scream at parties. "Well, actually..."
Sorry, is this some traditional US joke I'm not aware of?  Person A uses a word without knowing it's meaning, person B tells them they're wrong. Person A say no they aren't by using another word they don't know the meaning of and then we all laugh?  I'll have to watch out for that one in future.

Itís kinda a meta joke- WTC is senile so he keeps forgetting what words mean

Dragoncar, stop being such a dotard.

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« Reply #2255 on: February 10, 2018, 11:04:35 AM »
Jeez, way to beat a great joke to death. I bet yer a scream at parties. "Well, actually..."
Sorry, is this some traditional US joke I'm not aware of?  Person A uses a word without knowing it's meaning, person B tells them they're wrong. Person A say no they aren't by using another word they don't know the meaning of and then we all laugh?  I'll have to watch out for that one in future.

Some people don't really 'get' humor. After they post on here, they usually go sit at the train station and make YouTube videos of the locomotives.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2256 on: February 10, 2018, 02:56:36 PM »
Jeez, way to beat a great joke to death. I bet yer a scream at parties. "Well, actually..."
Sorry, is this some traditional US joke I'm not aware of?  Person A uses a word without knowing it's meaning, person B tells them they're wrong. Person A say no they aren't by using another word they don't know the meaning of and then we all laugh?  I'll have to watch out for that one in future.

Some people don't really 'get' humor. After they post on here, they usually go sit at the train station and make YouTube videos of the locomotives.
So I gather.  Maybe you should take a dictionary with you then you can brush up your vocabulary whilst waiting for the next train to film.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2257 on: February 10, 2018, 05:06:58 PM »
Jeez, way to beat a great joke to death. I bet yer a scream at parties. "Well, actually..."
Sorry, is this some traditional US joke I'm not aware of?  Person A uses a word without knowing it's meaning, person B tells them they're wrong. Person A say no they aren't by using another word they don't know the meaning of and then we all laugh?  I'll have to watch out for that one in future.

Some people don't really 'get' humor. After they post on here, they usually go sit at the train station and make YouTube videos of the locomotives.
So I gather.  Maybe you should take a dictionary with you then you can brush up your vocabulary whilst waiting for the next train to film.

I didn't get humor, so I looked it up.  "the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech".  Now I get it.  HAHA fellow humasns

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« Reply #2258 on: February 10, 2018, 05:25:30 PM »
Jeez, way to beat a great joke to death. I bet yer a scream at parties. "Well, actually..."
Sorry, is this some traditional US joke I'm not aware of?  Person A uses a word without knowing it's meaning, person B tells them they're wrong. Person A say no they aren't by using another word they don't know the meaning of and then we all laugh?  I'll have to watch out for that one in future.

Some people don't really 'get' humor. After they post on here, they usually go sit at the train station and make YouTube videos of the locomotives.
So I gather.  Maybe you should take a dictionary with you then you can brush up your vocabulary whilst waiting for the next train to film.

I didn't get humor, so I looked it up.  "the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech".  Now I get it.  HAHA fellow humasns

LOL

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2259 on: February 10, 2018, 07:42:13 PM »
In fairness, he called "the top" more than a month later, so i don't think its fair to give him any credit if we get to March 1 level, its got to go below his call on April 11 levels before i start handing out sarcastic certificates of achievement :)
Did I come off as sarcastic?

Not even, really.  thorstach "called" it on Feb 2, and the actual top was on Jan 26.  It's a lot easier to "call" a top if you wait a week. 
It took him 22 tries to even do that, so I thought he deserved an award :) Besides I had been sitting in the idea for a while,

and it was hard to hold in. I was afraid I might not get another chance!

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« Reply #2260 on: February 10, 2018, 08:53:13 PM »
When I frequented Bogleheads more, I seem to remember the general consensus was that rebalancing too often could hurt you. A quick google search only turned up this
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Rebalancing which has a cited source at the bottom linking to some research suggesting the optimal rebalancing strategy (tl;dr check often but have large deviation standards before triggering a rebalance)

Thank you.

Rebalancing has absolutely nothing to do with capturing gains. It is all about controlling risk.

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« Reply #2261 on: February 10, 2018, 09:29:15 PM »
In fairness, he called "the top" more than a month later, so i don't think its fair to give him any credit if we get to March 1 level, its got to go below his call on April 11 levels before i start handing out sarcastic certificates of achievement :)
Did I come off as sarcastic?


Sorry, did I say sarcastic? I meant beautiful and heartfelt certificates of achievement. 

Also, may I suggest we all volunteer you to be in charge/host of a more formal awards ceremony when this thread reaches the Top is in One Year Anniversary?  I for one can't wait to see who wins the "Best supporting cat meme" Award and "Most Obsure Reference" Award among others.  A night of glamour, celebration and bacon worship.  Who's with me!

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« Reply #2262 on: February 10, 2018, 09:30:58 PM »
Agreed.
I'm glad to see this thread is back on track.




TOP IS IN!


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2263 on: February 10, 2018, 10:03:29 PM »
I for one can't wait to see who wins the "Best supporting cat meme" Award and "Most Obsure Reference" Award among others.  A night of glamour, celebration and bacon worship.  Who's with me!
I agree with that

Also, may I suggest we all volunteer you to be in charge/host of a more formal awards ceremony when this thread reaches the Top is in One Year Anniversary?
But not so sure about that. I am only sporadically funny :)

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« Reply #2264 on: February 10, 2018, 10:16:50 PM »
I for one can't wait to see who wins the "Best supporting cat meme" Award and "Most Obsure Reference" Award among others.  A night of glamour, celebration and bacon worship.  Who's with me!
I agree with that

Also, may I suggest we all volunteer you to be in charge/host of a more formal awards ceremony when this thread reaches the Top is in One Year Anniversary?
But not so sure about that. I am only sporadically funny :)

Perhaps we could get TheGrimSqueaker on board as host.  Someone call the planning committee!  (and the TOP)

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2265 on: February 11, 2018, 12:36:57 AM »
In fairness, he called "the top" more than a month later, so i don't think its fair to give him any credit if we get to March 1 level, its got to go below his call on April 11 levels before i start handing out sarcastic certificates of achievement :)
Did I come off as sarcastic?


Sorry, did I say sarcastic? I meant beautiful and heartfelt certificates of achievement. 

Also, may I suggest we all volunteer you to be in charge/host of a more formal awards ceremony when this thread reaches the Top is in One Year Anniversary?  I for one can't wait to see who wins the "Best supporting cat meme" Award and "Most Obsure Reference" Award among others.  A night of glamour, celebration and bacon worship.  Who's with me!

Wow, it hasn't even been a year?  I nominate myself for "most sexist pig"

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« Reply #2266 on: February 11, 2018, 08:40:50 AM »
In fairness, he called "the top" more than a month later, so i don't think its fair to give him any credit if we get to March 1 level, its got to go below his call on April 11 levels before i start handing out sarcastic certificates of achievement :)
Did I come off as sarcastic?


Sorry, did I say sarcastic? I meant beautiful and heartfelt certificates of achievement. 

Also, may I suggest we all volunteer you to be in charge/host of a more formal awards ceremony when this thread reaches the Top is in One Year Anniversary?  I for one can't wait to see who wins the "Best supporting cat meme" Award and "Most Obsure Reference" Award among others.  A night of glamour, celebration and bacon worship.  Who's with me!

Wow, it hasn't even been a year?  I nominate myself for "most sexist pig dragon."

Fixed that for you.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2267 on: February 11, 2018, 10:14:04 AM »
http://theirrelevantinvestor.com/2018/02/09/35-steps-to-a-market-bottom/

-1% Mock the permabears
-2% Meh
-3% Yawn
-4% Off the highs
-5% Pullback
-6% Healthy correction
-7% Buying opportunity
-8% Stay the course
-9% This too shall pass
-10% Correction territory
-11% Iím a long-term investor
-12% Stocks always come back
-13% Donít panic
-14% Draw lines on a chart
-15% Look for attractive valuations
-16% I knew this was coming
-17% Blame Cramer
-18% This sucks
-19% I should buy some downside protection
-20% Bear market
-21% I should have listened to my gut
-22% Buy when thereís blood in the streets
-23% I was early
-24% Is this the bottom?
-25% This sucks
-26% Uggggh
-27% I canít take this much longer
-28% I sold my stocks
-29% Iím never buying stocks again
-30% Good thing I sold
-31% I should buy gold
-32% And silver
-33% I donít even care anymore
-34% Glad I stopped looking
-35% Bottom

pretty accurate so far

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« Reply #2268 on: February 11, 2018, 10:37:10 AM »
Or thorstachs version would be

-1% Call the top, cause the top is in
-2% Told you so
+/- 0% Double top. Double top is in
+1% False breakout. Top is still in
+2% New top is in
+3% Still the top
+4% Top is in now
+5% Top will be in soon
+6% Top is in again
+7% I mean now
+6% Told you so, Top is in
+7% Another double top, Top still in
+8% Top is in
+9% Silence
+10% Top is in
+11% .....
+12% .....
+13% .....
+14% .....
+15% Top is in
+16% False breakout
+17% .....
+18% .....
+19% Top is in
+20% .....
+21% Top is in
+22% .....
+23% Top is in
+24% .....
+25% .....
+26% .....
+27% Mother of all Tops is in

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2269 on: February 11, 2018, 03:45:49 PM »
I nominate JAYSLOL for best play-by-play announcer of the year.

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« Reply #2270 on: February 11, 2018, 06:11:40 PM »
I nominate JAYSLOL for best play-by-play announcer of the year.

People said winning "best play-by-play announcer of the year" wasn't possible, well I guess I showed...

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« Reply #2271 on: February 11, 2018, 07:06:14 PM »
^^^Impressive!

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« Reply #2272 on: February 12, 2018, 07:19:09 AM »
Who's "Cramer?"

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« Reply #2273 on: February 12, 2018, 07:34:35 AM »
Who's "Cramer?"
Jim Cramer is the host of CNBC's "Mad Money".  He's known for be erratic and his show is filled with all sorts of wiz-bang noises.  He describes his investment style as "fast and furious trading".  At one point in each show he gives buy/sell recommendations to questions from listeners in spit-fire fashion (example - "Q: what do you think about this Chinese solar company XYZ? A: With so much sun falling on China I think it's a bright idea!!! Next question!")

...in other words, everything mustachian investors are not.

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« Reply #2274 on: February 12, 2018, 07:58:34 AM »
Aaaaah, I see.  I think I prefer "Kramer" from Seinfeld.

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« Reply #2275 on: February 12, 2018, 08:21:36 AM »
Who's "Cramer?"

He's a television personality loosely based on the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland, except the things he says make even less sense and they're stock-market themed.

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« Reply #2276 on: February 12, 2018, 12:49:29 PM »
Who's "Cramer?"

He's a television personality loosely based on the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland, except the things he says make even less sense and they're stock-market themed.

Lol. That's actually an accurate description.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2277 on: February 12, 2018, 01:24:54 PM »
Shiller and others are on TV talking about the" computers" impact on the market; I believe it this little dip was bacon induced.




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« Reply #2278 on: February 12, 2018, 01:33:59 PM »
Probably the HFT algorithms - high fat tissue

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« Reply #2279 on: February 12, 2018, 01:43:16 PM »
Food porn, nice.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2280 on: February 12, 2018, 02:39:51 PM »
Well we are back up to where the S&P500 was on Dec 11th.. Is this the end of the correction or a head fake before another leg down to -20%?

Which one do I want?*.. Hmm Good question.. a 20% pullback would have me changing my asset allocation more towards stocks so in time I would have more money. A continual rise would have me regaining my peak NW in a shorter time.

* We are FIRED and have way more than we need.


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« Reply #2281 on: February 12, 2018, 02:47:16 PM »

"Y'all got any more of them corrections?"



Pretty much my reaction to all of this at the moment.

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« Reply #2282 on: February 12, 2018, 03:07:20 PM »
I'm not sure if the stock dip was bacon induced, but the volitliity in my heart rate probably is. 

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« Reply #2283 on: February 12, 2018, 03:53:08 PM »
I'm not sure if the stock dip was bacon induced, but the volitliity in my heart rate probably is.

Mmm... bacon dip does sound delicious.  Please pass the chips. 

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« Reply #2284 on: February 12, 2018, 06:51:59 PM »

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« Reply #2285 on: February 12, 2018, 06:57:25 PM »
On the topic of dips, I ordered smoked bluefish dip this weekend, served on something similar to warm naan.....#hnnnggggggggggg

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« Reply #2286 on: February 13, 2018, 07:18:04 AM »
Blue corn chips are delicious. So are blue corn tortillas. Chips top is in.

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« Reply #2287 on: February 13, 2018, 07:43:19 AM »


The trend graphs between SPAM Musabi to Bacon just inverted for the first time this month .

Time to sell folks the SPAM Musabi, Bacon top is officailly in!

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« Reply #2288 on: February 13, 2018, 06:42:20 PM »
Blue corn tortillas huh? I am intrigued. Will have to try to track down either those or blue corn flour to give it a shot.

I mean *ahem* since in the coming afterscape from the total stock market collapse into which we have only just begun to slide tortillas, rice, and beans will all be unaffordable luxuries and all.

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« Reply #2289 on: February 13, 2018, 07:08:39 PM »
Blue corn chips are delicious. So are blue corn tortillas. Chips top is in.

Naturally blue corn chips are blue because they are aflatoxin flavored.  Not recommended.

Now if you're just buying the artificially blue chips that are dyed to LOOK like the carcinogenic naturally blue chips, that's probably fine.  Unless they're dyed with any of the top three blue food dyes used in the US, all of which are also known carcinogens in lab animals.  They're banned in the EU, but Americans loooove their aflatoxin chips.

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« Reply #2290 on: February 13, 2018, 07:24:55 PM »
[They're banned in the EU, but Americans loooove their aflatoxin chips.

And cheese.  Don't forget about cheese

"Y'all want cheese on that?" - every American taking an order ever

Top is still in btw, just in case there was any doubt

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« Reply #2291 on: February 13, 2018, 08:13:09 PM »
Naturally blue corn chips are blue because they are aflatoxin flavored.  Not recommended.

Naturally blue corn chips are blue because they are made from varieties of corn which produce high concentration of the plant pigment anthocyanin (particularly in the pericarp so it's a lot easier to make the chips blue if they are quote-unquote whole grain which is why I was surprised blue corn tortillas would work well). Anthocyanin is also an antioxidant, which is the justification people use for arguing blue corn, and purple carrots/cauliflowers are better for you. Honestly I don't know that the concentrations are high enough to matter biologically, but that's besides the point.

Now most super high anthocyanin lines are know of aren't particularly well adapted to being grown in the midwestern corn belt. In addition, most (all?) blue corn also doesn't have any bt traits, so they get more insect damage, which provides more places for the Aspergillus fungus that makes the alfatoxin to get into the ear and start growing. Anyway, long story short it wouldn't strike me as totally implausible if someone has done a study and found that blue corn tends to have more alfatoxin than regular yellow #2 corn, but I'd still be curious to see the study if you have it handy.

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« Reply #2292 on: February 13, 2018, 08:57:17 PM »
lol, of course "maizeman" would get so sucked into a discussion about corn that he forgets to even mention that the TOP IS IN.

Beware of GMDs (Genetically Modified Dividends) and artificial earnings flavorings, as the dead cat meltup renders most starches especially vulnerable to derivative fungi. Top is in.

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« Reply #2293 on: February 13, 2018, 09:39:14 PM »
In addition, most (all?) blue corn also doesn't have any bt traits, so they get more insect damage, which provides more places for the Aspergillus fungus that makes the alfatoxin to get into the ear and start growing.

Aspergillus??  Blue corn is blue because it has "Athlete's Foot"?!?

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« Reply #2294 on: February 13, 2018, 09:44:43 PM »
I'd still be curious to see the study if you have it handy.

The only way for me to source this information for you would be for me to contact one of my ex-girlfriends from graduate school who talked about this topic waaaay too much, and I'm sorry but as much as I like you this is just not going to happen.  She's a nice lady and all, and getting more and more famous (as academics go) every year, but I'm not about to call her up and say "Hey, this corn guy on the internet is interested in your blue chip fetish."

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« Reply #2295 on: February 13, 2018, 10:13:02 PM »
I'd still be curious to see the study if you have it handy.

The only way for me to source this information for you would be for me to contact one of my ex-girlfriends from graduate school who talked about this topic waaaay too much, and I'm sorry but as much as I like you this is just not going to happen.  She's a nice lady and all, and getting more and more famous (as academics go) every year, but I'm not about to call her up and say "Hey, this corn guy on the internet is interested in your blue chip fetish."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Okay, fair enough. I try to avoid contacting any of my exes about their fetishes as well.

In addition, most (all?) blue corn also doesn't have any bt traits, so they get more insect damage, which provides more places for the Aspergillus fungus that makes the alfatoxin to get into the ear and start growing.

Aspergillus??  Blue corn is blue because it has "Athlete's Foot"?!?

Well (some) blue corn may have althete's foot or at least its 2nd cousin once removed, but that isn't what makes it blue. And you can certainly get bad batches of white or yellow corn with the same issue caused by the same fungus. Testing for alfatoxin is important -- and scary -- regardless of the color of your corn. <-- remember this when you're trading your last gold coin (you did pull all of your money out of the market and convert it into gold right at the top didn't you?) for a bag of corn flower in the desolate wastelands america is soon to become as the mother-of-all-tops recedes into a fable told to children gathered around a fire made from burning tires of a more civilized, golden age.
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« Reply #2296 on: February 14, 2018, 06:47:56 AM »
Looks like another big drop on the horizon today.

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« Reply #2297 on: February 14, 2018, 07:19:42 AM »
Blue popcorn is good too (popped, it is white but with a slight bluish tinge). Although the kernels are so small and light they blow out of my air popper. Topcorn.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2298 on: February 14, 2018, 07:35:27 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Okay, fair enough. I try to avoid contacting any of my exes about their fetishes as well.

 That's seems odd, I contact mine because of their fetishes!
                                :-)
 Or would that be mine? Now I'm confused.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #2299 on: February 14, 2018, 08:09:40 AM »
Looks like another big drop on the horizon today.

Which is really just a back-door way of saying, "Top is IN!"