Author Topic: Pension vs Employer Gift Choice  (Read 3143 times)

BlueLesPaul

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Pension vs Employer Gift Choice
« on: April 30, 2024, 03:23:28 PM »
In a few weeks, I have a choice between two options when I hit my 1-year anniversary:

1) I will be set up with a pension that will give me 1.5% per year of service of the average of my top 5 years of pay as long as I work for the employer at least 4 years and retire at 65.
2) My employer will set aside 10% of my income into a 401k, this amount also vests in 4 year from the start date of employment.  Up until the 4th year, the employer will invest it like the pension, but I will have control of investments after the vesting period.

I make 75K now and based on recent history, I assume nominal salary will increase by 4% every year and assume nominal investment returns of 10% based on the historical performance of the S&P 500.

I had originally planned to do the 10% employer contribution for the optionality to jump to another employer after the vesting period, but would there ever be a reason to choose the pension option if I planned to stick around for 25 years when I hit 65?  Let me know if you need more information

More information about the two options for public employees is here:
https://www.urs.org/NewMembers/index

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Re: Pension vs Employer Gift Choice
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2024, 04:18:22 PM »
What happens to Option 1 if you are let go before age 65?

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Re: Pension vs Employer Gift Choice
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2024, 06:42:24 PM »
A quick run through an investment calculator shows that $7,500 invested every year for 25 years = $811,363 with a 10% annual return.  4% rule of that is $32,454.  This doesn't consider wage growth.

Your pension of 1.5% x Salary x # yrs worked (25) = $28,125.  This also doesn't consider wage growth, so I think it's comparable.

You're better off investing the 10%.  It should work out to more money.  It will also allow more flexibility of FIREing or moving jobs.

Assuming I didn't make a math error...

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Re: Pension vs Employer Gift Choice
« Reply #3 on: Today at 01:05:54 AM »
If 2) is employer putting in 10% from their pocket, not yours, thats a no brainer for me.  Fuck the golden handcuffs.

 

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