M.O.A.T.rendlines!Is a new G.O.A.T M.O.A.T. on the horizon??
Quote from: afuera on September 28, 2023, 11:00:08 AMM.O.A.T.rendlines!Is a new G.O.A.T M.O.A.T. on the horizon??I know we are living in the end times when real article titles are indistinguishable from The Onion article titles.
Top is in!
I've been offline for like two months and the thread has barely moved! I figured surely I'd missed something exciting while building a shed, wood shed, and sauna multiplex... Atlas the construction top is in and winds of winter have returned.
The top was never going to be publicized, not even here, so that quiet period was when the top became in. Confirm by checking a 3 month chart of the stock markets.
Well, the VIX is over 15.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity2020 on July 29, 2023, 05:27:05 PMTo be serious for just a moment - from a historical chart it looks like the Nikkei declined or was essentially flat until 2012, but has risen steadily for the last decade. I’d be interested in seeing what total returns look like for someone who spent the last 30 years making monthly contributions to it.Coming right up ... this ignores any dividends and focuses solely on the stock price of the Nikkei 225.Let's assume starting in January 1990 you invested 1,000/mo in the stock market. Every year the amount you invest goes up by 3%, so that in 2023 you are investing $2,652.You would invest a total of $684,805 and you would end up with 1,436,044. Your rate of return over that time period would have been about 4.68%/yr.In the last 10 years the index tripled to return to its mid-1990 pre-crash value, so your return on investments around that starting point would be close to zero. Anything else starting below that ended up positive, but keep in mind there was a long wait and your return was likely negative for the first 15-20 years.
To be serious for just a moment - from a historical chart it looks like the Nikkei declined or was essentially flat until 2012, but has risen steadily for the last decade. I’d be interested in seeing what total returns look like for someone who spent the last 30 years making monthly contributions to it.
Hopefully in the end the markets don't go off the rails as badly as Twin Peaks did.
Quote from: ChpBstrd on October 23, 2023, 08:25:04 PMWhat is going on with the Y axis on that chart?
As of market close today, the S&P 500 is 5.5% from the all-time high.
I haven't checked the forums in a few years. I can't believe this thread is still alive. :DDD
Quote from: MrStash on November 21, 2023, 11:27:17 AMI haven't checked the forums in a few years. I can't believe this thread is still alive. :DDDThe Top is ALWAYS in!!!
Quote from: Retire-Canada on November 21, 2023, 11:28:48 AMQuote from: MrStash on November 21, 2023, 11:27:17 AMI haven't checked the forums in a few years. I can't believe this thread is still alive. :DDDThe Top is ALWAYS in!!!This may be the peak of this thread. It's all downhill from here.
Quote from: Glenstache on November 21, 2023, 01:52:27 PMQuote from: Retire-Canada on November 21, 2023, 11:28:48 AMQuote from: MrStash on November 21, 2023, 11:27:17 AMI haven't checked the forums in a few years. I can't believe this thread is still alive. :DDDThe Top is ALWAYS in!!!This may be the peak of this thread. It's all downhill from here.It's nice to know in these times of uncertainty that we can always count on the top being in.
Fear is back, rates above 5, markets breaking down. SPY to follow, earnings will be a reality check.
Quote from: dividendman on December 01, 2023, 02:05:05 PMFear is back, rates above 5, markets breaking down. SPY to follow, earnings will be a reality check.Thorstach is that you?
Quote from: dividendman on December 01, 2023, 02:05:05 PMFear is back, rates above 5, markets breaking down. SPY to follow, earnings will be a reality check.The market is greedy, not fearful.https://edition.cnn.com/markets/fear-and-greedRates are only above 5% for those holding one year or less.https://www.ustreasuryyieldcurve.com/Markets are not "breaking down" when the S&P 500 rose 6.6% in a month.https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY?p=SPY
[You realize this thread has sort of a become one hell of a long-running joke, right?
Quote from: MustacheAndaHalf on December 02, 2023, 02:30:15 AMQuote from: dividendman on December 01, 2023, 02:05:05 PMFear is back, rates above 5, markets breaking down. SPY to follow, earnings will be a reality check.The market is greedy, not fearful.https://edition.cnn.com/markets/fear-and-greedRates are only above 5% for those holding one year or less.https://www.ustreasuryyieldcurve.com/Markets are not "breaking down" when the S&P 500 rose 6.6% in a month.https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY?p=SPYYou realize this thread has sort of become a running joke, right?
Quote from: secondcor521 on December 02, 2023, 05:57:21 AM[You realize this thread has sort of a become one hell of a long-running joke, right?Fixed that for you! ;)
Quote from: SwordGuy on December 02, 2023, 06:12:04 AMQuote from: secondcor521 on December 02, 2023, 05:57:21 AM[You realize this thread has sort of a become one hell of a long-running joke, right?Fixed that for you! ;)how dare ye blaspheme the sacred top is in!
Quote from: ender on December 04, 2023, 07:52:54 AMQuote from: SwordGuy on December 02, 2023, 06:12:04 AMQuote from: secondcor521 on December 02, 2023, 05:57:21 AM[You realize this thread has sort of a become one hell of a long-running joke, right?Fixed that for you! ;)how dare ye blaspheme the sacred top is in!Looks like we're in for a Santa Claus bloodbath this year... unless Thorstach delivers one last prophetic warning to get the markets up over the last Top
Quote from: EscapeVelocity2020 on December 04, 2023, 07:57:30 AMQuote from: ender on December 04, 2023, 07:52:54 AMQuote from: SwordGuy on December 02, 2023, 06:12:04 AMQuote from: secondcor521 on December 02, 2023, 05:57:21 AM[You realize this thread has sort of a become one hell of a long-running joke, right?Fixed that for you! ;)how dare ye blaspheme the sacred top is in!Looks like we're in for a Santa Claus bloodbath this year... unless Thorstach delivers one last prophetic warning to get the markets up over the last Toplast Top, next Top, current Top. They all seem to be a blur to me and run together. Maybe there is truth in the last 500 posts here that tried to inform the doubters that there is but one Top, and it remains in.
Quote from: ATtiny85 on December 04, 2023, 09:01:50 AMQuote from: EscapeVelocity2020 on December 04, 2023, 07:57:30 AMQuote from: ender on December 04, 2023, 07:52:54 AMQuote from: SwordGuy on December 02, 2023, 06:12:04 AMQuote from: secondcor521 on December 02, 2023, 05:57:21 AM[You realize this thread has sort of a become one hell of a long-running joke, right?Fixed that for you! ;)how dare ye blaspheme the sacred top is in!Looks like we're in for a Santa Claus bloodbath this year... unless Thorstach delivers one last prophetic warning to get the markets up over the last Toplast Top, next Top, current Top. They all seem to be a blur to me and run together. Maybe there is truth in the last 500 posts here that tried to inform the doubters that there is but one Top, and it remains in.It is this poly-top-ism that is the blasphemy. @thorstach will send you all to hell, or at least cause your portfolios to experience below-average returns for a couple of years.
4% from from ATH (the TOP) as of today's close!
4% is always the magic percentage. Alchemists all know: top is in.