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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5950 on: February 24, 2020, 10:43:42 PM »
We havenít had a drop this big in the SP500 since 2018!!!

This is a disaster!!!!

PANIC!!!!!

Two whole years people. This is historic. Youíll be telling your grandkids where you were on February 24, 2020.

Iím selling everything and buying land in Arizona.
Watch out for the Arizona property top.

Land in Arizona only goes up in value. They arenít making any more of it.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5951 on: February 24, 2020, 11:00:05 PM »
How bleak it must be for the Only Up Is Good crowd. Missing the whole other half of life haha

Technically only missing the other ~46% of life.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5952 on: February 24, 2020, 11:36:01 PM »
How bleak it must be for the Only Up Is Good crowd. Missing the whole other half of life haha

Technically only missing the other ~46% of life.

Ha! So true. i stand corrected. Which is right around eight times the house edge in blackjack--one cannot possibly lose just cover all bets all the time like the house.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5953 on: February 25, 2020, 07:22:37 AM »
Watch out for the Arizona property top.

Land in Arizona only goes up in value. They arenít making any more of it.

If they aren't making any more of it, I think that means it's at a permanent plateau.  On the other hand top is not in for Hawaii; they are making more of it.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5954 on: February 25, 2020, 08:30:36 AM »
Ok, you know what actually has me worried? Several days of down with no thorstach, people giving up on their top is in bets, and the thread is jubilant while still heading down. No one is taking this dip seriously, so it's probably the big one.

Not that I'm going to do anything different.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5955 on: February 25, 2020, 08:50:18 AM »
Some one a couple pages ago was talking about how this thread would get real quiet in the next downturn. Noob.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5956 on: February 25, 2020, 08:56:44 AM »
Markets always rebound after thorstach checks in with a "Top is In". C'mon thorstach...where are you to save the day?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5957 on: February 25, 2020, 09:06:50 AM »
Two down days in a row?  It's O'fish-oil... TOP WAS IN.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5958 on: February 25, 2020, 09:08:42 AM »
VIX is over 25. TWENTY FIVE. Will earnings be a reality check? Is fear back?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5959 on: February 25, 2020, 09:33:19 AM »
Watch out for the Arizona property top.

Land in Arizona only goes up in value. They arenít making any more of it.

If they aren't making any more of it, I think that means it's at a permanent plateau.  On the other hand top is not in for Hawaii; they are making more of it.

I thought we learned from 1929 that permanent plateau tops can only go up.  Permanent plateau tops are in!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5960 on: February 25, 2020, 10:36:42 AM »
Corona Top is in!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5961 on: February 25, 2020, 11:28:17 AM »
No one is taking this dip seriously, so it's probably the big one.


I should be so lucky. 

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5962 on: February 25, 2020, 11:38:58 AM »
VIX is over 25. TWENTY FIVE. Will earnings be a reality check? Is fear back?

Meh. It hit around 79 back in '08.

These kids today.  Don't appreciate some proper market volatility like we had when I was growing up.   

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5963 on: February 25, 2020, 11:47:29 AM »
Currently a massive 6.5% down from our recent closing high.. This could be it..:)

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5964 on: February 25, 2020, 12:07:40 PM »
We havenít had a drop this big in the SP500 since 2018!!!

This is a disaster!!!!

PANIC!!!!!

Two whole years people. This is historic. Youíll be telling your grandkids where you were on February 24, 2020.

Iím selling everything and buying land in Arizona.
Watch out for the Arizona property top.

Or Ocean Top property in Arizona.  #KingGeorge

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5965 on: February 25, 2020, 12:24:11 PM »
THE SKY IS FALLING!!1!1!!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5966 on: February 25, 2020, 12:26:31 PM »

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5967 on: February 25, 2020, 12:32:57 PM »
I HOPE EVERYBODY IS SELLING ALL OF THEIR INVESTMENTS AND BURYING THE CASH IN THEIR BACKYARD CUZ THE MARKET WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS DROP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

*JK - keep calm and DCA :)

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5968 on: February 25, 2020, 12:44:19 PM »
Grrr...futures are showing Monday is coming in as a hard crash.   Oh well, who needed another $100,000 on those puts...would just have been more taxes.
Well, if SPY does fall below 325 before March 20th, you will have made it a lot more fun to watch!  Not entirely sure if you will be better off since you also comment on making money when this position loses money, but it has given me some interest to watch the market on Monday since you seem to think something big is about to happen.

It isn't as fun to watch when I have closed out the puts for a $3500 gain and yet still hold well over a million in a 401K that is mostly in the S&P500.

Wow, I hadn't realized you'd closed out the position.  That's why I hate options, you have to get everything right.  Would've been a sweet trade, $100,000 and counting....
« Last Edit: February 25, 2020, 12:47:20 PM by EscapeVelocity2020 »

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5969 on: February 25, 2020, 12:47:56 PM »
Grrr...futures are showing Monday is coming in as a hard crash.   Oh well, who needed another $100,000 on those puts...would just have been more taxes.
Well, if SPY does fall below 325 before March 20th, you will have made it a lot more fun to watch!  Not entirely sure if you will be better off since you also comment on making money when this position loses money, but it has given me some interest to watch the market on Monday since you seem to think something big is about to happen.

It isn't as fun to watch when I have closed out the puts for a $3500 gain and yet still hold well over a million in a 401K that is mostly in the S&P500.

Wow, I hadn't realized you'd closed out the position.  That's why I hate options, you have to get everything right.  Would've been a sweet trade, $100,000 and counting....

Ouch!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5970 on: February 25, 2020, 01:00:15 PM »
Time to do my semi-annual mosey on over to the Stocks in Freefall thread at Bogleheads.

Yikes, I've scrolled 5 pages back and still seeing Monday posts. Looks like I should have started reading yesterday.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5971 on: February 25, 2020, 01:14:34 PM »
Time to do my semi-annual mosey on over to the Stocks in Freefall thread at Bogleheads.

Yikes, I've scrolled 5 pages back and still seeing Monday posts. Looks like I should have started reading yesterday.

So what's going in that thread? It looks kinda like our Top is in thread, but everyone is so serious and there is no sarcasm at all? Or am I missing something?

Link for the lazy: https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=80065

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5972 on: February 25, 2020, 01:15:24 PM »
I HOPE EVERYBODY IS SELLING ALL OF THEIR INVESTMENTS AND BURYING THE CASH IN THEIR BACKYARD CUZ THE MARKET WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS DROP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

*JK - keep calm and DCA :)

By cash you mean worthless paper?  You need gold.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5973 on: February 25, 2020, 01:17:37 PM »
I HOPE EVERYBODY IS SELLING ALL OF THEIR INVESTMENTS AND BURYING THE CASH IN THEIR BACKYARD CUZ THE MARKET WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS DROP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

*JK - keep calm and DCA :)

By cash you mean worthless paper?  You need gold.
Gold does hold up better to being buried in the ground better than cash. Plus it's weight discourages thieves if you buy large enough pieces of it.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5974 on: February 25, 2020, 01:18:36 PM »
Gold makes my mattress too lumpy and uncomfortable.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5975 on: February 25, 2020, 01:21:17 PM »
Maybe thorstach topped him/herself :O

 Come back to us thorstach, stay away from the light !

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5976 on: February 25, 2020, 01:31:19 PM »
Gold makes my mattress too lumpy and uncomfortable.

It would probably make for a great weighted blanket, though.  Shouldn't having a safe place for your assets help you sleep well at night?  You would be covered if the end of the world happens. 

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« Reply #5977 on: February 25, 2020, 01:41:27 PM »
Time to do my semi-annual mosey on over to the Stocks in Freefall thread at Bogleheads.

Yikes, I've scrolled 5 pages back and still seeing Monday posts. Looks like I should have started reading yesterday.

So what's going in that thread? It looks kinda like our Top is in thread, but everyone is so serious and there is no sarcasm at all? Or am I missing something?

Link for the lazy: https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=80065

Thanks for the link. Some lack of humor over there it seems. One good sarcastic remark that folks should sell now to avoid capital gains.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5978 on: February 25, 2020, 01:48:46 PM »
Gold makes my mattress too lumpy and uncomfortable.

It would probably make for a great weighted blanket, though.  Shouldn't having a safe place for your assets help you sleep well at night?  You would be covered if the end of the world happens.

Does gold work as well(better?) as lead? Maybe a gold blanket would protect me at night when my tinfoil hat has a tendency to fall off?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5979 on: February 25, 2020, 02:01:10 PM »
Anyone look at the treasury yields? Pretty fair inversion out to 5 years.

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« Reply #5980 on: February 25, 2020, 02:03:10 PM »
Anyone look at the treasury yields? Pretty fair inversion out to 5 years.

Graphs or it didn't happen.

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« Reply #5981 on: February 25, 2020, 02:17:14 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

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« Reply #5982 on: February 25, 2020, 02:18:51 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

thorstach, is that you?

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« Reply #5983 on: February 25, 2020, 02:31:37 PM »
Anyone look at the treasury yields? Pretty fair inversion out to 5 years.

Graphs or it didn't happen.

Iím no good at posting graphs off my phone:

https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/us

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« Reply #5984 on: February 25, 2020, 02:51:06 PM »
It would probably make for a great weighted blanket, though.  Shouldn't having a safe place for your assets help you sleep well at night?  You would be covered if the end of the world happens.

Does gold work as well(better?) as lead? Maybe a gold blanket would protect me at night when my tinfoil hat has a tendency to fall off?

Gold is actually 70% denser than lead, and unlike lead it's nontoxic.   It's perfect for the job. 

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« Reply #5985 on: February 25, 2020, 03:02:32 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

Thorstach  ahhh I mean Cabaka do you know what the Coronavirus ticker is?  I know fear is VIX but I can't seem to find the virus index.  I already tried COVID-2019 and it didn't work.  I need to place some options soon.  Thanks for the help!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5986 on: February 25, 2020, 03:03:05 PM »
Bubblewrap Top?


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5987 on: February 25, 2020, 04:37:42 PM »
Happy top day

Dragon called it, Turkey Day Top!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5988 on: February 25, 2020, 04:45:49 PM »
Corona Top is in!
Yeah. That one might just go viral...

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« Reply #5989 on: February 25, 2020, 05:10:59 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

Thorstach  ahhh I mean Cabaka do you know what the Coronavirus ticker is?  I know fear is VIX but I can't seem to find the virus index.  I already tried COVID-2019 and it didn't work.  I need to place some options soon.  Thanks for the help!

not sure who that is, I just like to drop in on you guys and see who is dollar cost averaging during something like the virus that is just beginning to affect economies. the same as I like to watch those on noted shorting site, slope of hope; be giddy just 5 days from ATHs. too early to say which group is right but I do have a whole lot more capital I put on the sidelines Friday when the MA changed than the dollar cost avergers who sat thru Monday and today.

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« Reply #5990 on: February 25, 2020, 09:11:11 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

Thorstach  ahhh I mean Cabaka do you know what the Coronavirus ticker is?  I know fear is VIX but I can't seem to find the virus index.  I already tried COVID-2019 and it didn't work.  I need to place some options soon.  Thanks for the help!

not sure who that is, I just like to drop in on you guys and see who is dollar cost averaging during something like the virus that is just beginning to affect economies. the same as I like to watch those on noted shorting site, slope of hope; be giddy just 5 days from ATHs. too early to say which group is right but I do have a whole lot more capital I put on the sidelines Friday when the MA changed than the dollar cost avergers who sat thru Monday and today.

You're telling us you don't know who thorstach is?

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« Reply #5991 on: February 25, 2020, 09:34:20 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

Thorstach  ahhh I mean Cabaka do you know what the Coronavirus ticker is?  I know fear is VIX but I can't seem to find the virus index.  I already tried COVID-2019 and it didn't work.  I need to place some options soon.  Thanks for the help!

not sure who that is, I just like to drop in on you guys and see who is dollar cost averaging during something like the virus that is just beginning to affect economies. the same as I like to watch those on noted shorting site, slope of hope; be giddy just 5 days from ATHs. too early to say which group is right but I do have a whole lot more capital I put on the sidelines Friday when the MA changed than the dollar cost avergers who sat thru Monday and today.

You're telling us you don't know who thorstach is?

I donít question what form our G-d takes when they appear on Earth I just listen to their prophesies.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5992 on: February 25, 2020, 09:50:42 PM »
I have to issue a mea culpa. I had warned you all that the top wouid be in mid-March when I FIRE (I give notice tomorrow). It looks like I was off on my timing and in fact The Top arrived before I could quit working. I apologize to all of you who were waiting two more weeks to put everything into cash.

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« Reply #5993 on: February 25, 2020, 10:28:44 PM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

thorstach, is that you?

You mock now...200 day will be tested.

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« Reply #5994 on: February 25, 2020, 10:40:32 PM »
My friends, fear is back:

"The Cboe Volatility Index, known as the marketís ďfear gauge,Ē spiked more than 11% to close at 27.85, the highest close since Dec. 2018. The VIX, a measure of the 30-day implied volatility of U.S. stocks, crossed 30 at its session high on Tuesday as coronavirus fears rattled the markets."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/dow-futures-bounce-slightly-as-wall-street-attempts-comeback-from-monster-2-day-slide.html

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« Reply #5995 on: February 25, 2020, 10:46:01 PM »
My friends, fear is back:

"The Cboe Volatility Index, known as the marketís ďfear gauge,Ē spiked more than 11% to close at 27.85, the highest close since Dec. 2018. The VIX, a measure of the 30-day implied volatility of U.S. stocks, crossed 30 at its session high on Tuesday as coronavirus fears rattled the markets."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/dow-futures-bounce-slightly-as-wall-street-attempts-comeback-from-monster-2-day-slide.html

Uh oh, fear was so high in Dec 2018 that it caused the market to only go up 30% in 2019... wait, what?

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« Reply #5996 on: February 25, 2020, 10:48:51 PM »
I have to issue a mea culpa. I had warned you all that the top wouid be in mid-March when I FIRE (I give notice tomorrow). It looks like I was off on my timing and in fact The Top arrived before I could quit working. I apologize to all of you who were waiting two more weeks to put everything into cash.

Congratulations! The top in January 2018 was almost on the exact day I retired, so Iím claiming credit for that one. As long as we keep FIREíing the top will always be in.

Thank you for keeping this thread going.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5997 on: February 25, 2020, 10:57:52 PM »
My friends, fear is back:

"The Cboe Volatility Index, known as the marketís ďfear gauge,Ē spiked more than 11% to close at 27.85, the highest close since Dec. 2018. The VIX, a measure of the 30-day implied volatility of U.S. stocks, crossed 30 at its session high on Tuesday as coronavirus fears rattled the markets."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/dow-futures-bounce-slightly-as-wall-street-attempts-comeback-from-monster-2-day-slide.html

Uh oh, fear was so high in Dec 2018 that it caused the market to only go up 30% in 2019... wait, what?

Ha yep I'm still up 28.31% on Dec 2018 buys. I'm with the buy when there's blood in the streets crowd. Bring it.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5998 on: February 26, 2020, 01:16:12 AM »

ouch. back to Thanksgiving 2019 close. all of you mocking the top is in since then maybe right. the economic affects of the virus are just beginning to be felt and a recovery starting to have positive affects is probably 6 months at minimum. sliced thru the 100 day MDA like nothing, 200 day will be tested.

Thorstach  ahhh I mean Cabaka do you know what the Coronavirus ticker is?  I know fear is VIX but I can't seem to find the virus index.  I already tried COVID-2019 and it didn't work.  I need to place some options soon.  Thanks for the help!

not sure who that is, I just like to drop in on you guys and see who is dollar cost averaging during something like the virus that is just beginning to affect economies. the same as I like to watch those on noted shorting site, slope of hope; be giddy just 5 days from ATHs. too early to say which group is right but I do have a whole lot more capital I put on the sidelines Friday when the MA changed than the dollar cost avergers who sat thru Monday and today.

You're telling us you don't know who thorstach is?

He's gone from our minds as quickly as this year's gains.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #5999 on: February 26, 2020, 04:26:12 AM »
My friends, fear is back:

"The Cboe Volatility Index, known as the marketís ďfear gauge,Ē spiked more than 11% to close at 27.85, the highest close since Dec. 2018. The VIX, a measure of the 30-day implied volatility of U.S. stocks, crossed 30 at its session high on Tuesday as coronavirus fears rattled the markets."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/dow-futures-bounce-slightly-as-wall-street-attempts-comeback-from-monster-2-day-slide.html

The rattling top is in!!