Top is in

[MrGreen]

Trump is going for the never before accomplished 'Top and Bottom Is In' in one day!

All I can picture is a naked Trump self-fellating while rolling around the oval office in a sort of ouroboros of orange bronzer, jello-y flesh, and disheveled hairpiece while Republicans in the room look on with a gentle swelling of quiet pride.

I'm not sure what disturbs me more, that I read this or that you typed it. Lol

[EscapeVelocity2020]

The Bonds Strike Back

Universally loved by all

[AuspiciousEight]

Trump is going for the never before accomplished 'Top and Bottom Is In' in one day!

All I can picture is a naked Trump self-fellating while rolling around the oval office in a sort of ouroboros of orange bronzer, jello-y flesh, and disheveled hairpiece while Republicans in the room look on with a gentle swelling of quiet pride.

Wow this...is really specific lol.

Also would not surprise me at all at this point.

[GuitarStv]

I'd say I need some valium or I need to get off this 5 cent carnival ride.
But, I'm resigned to our bottom is in / top is in / bottom is in kind of whiplash year.

 . . . and who can afford valium in Trump's economy?

[solon]

I am done acting like I have any clue.

I think that's the entire point of this thread. No one has a clue. It's not possible to have a clue.

But that's no more true now than it has ever been.

[dragoncar]

Trump is going for the never before accomplished 'Top and Bottom Is In' in one day!

All I can picture is a naked Trump self-fellating while rolling around the oval office in a sort of ouroboros of orange bronzer, jello-y flesh, and disheveled hairpiece while Republicans in the room look on with a gentle swelling of quiet pride.

I'm not sure what disturbs me more, that I read this or that you typed it. Lol

If you didn't stop reading at "naked Trump" then your brain lacks sufficient self-protection features

[Heckler]

Why the hell did I just read “naked Trump” twice?!

Shit, there it is again!   My eyes are burning!

PS Top is in. 

[Fru-Gal]

Trump is going for the never before accomplished 'Top and Bottom Is In' in one day!

All I can picture is a naked Trump self-fellating while rolling around the oval office in a sort of ouroboros of orange bronzer, jello-y flesh, and disheveled hairpiece while Republicans in the room look on with a gentle swelling of quiet pride.

I'm not sure what disturbs me more, that I read this or that you typed it. Lol

If you didn't stop reading at "naked Trump" then your brain lacks sufficient self-protection features

Tell you what, I'd read that hilarious sentence a thousand times over if it meant I never had to HEAR his voice again. I love the ending BTW, well done

[ender]

Trump is going for the never before accomplished 'Top and Bottom Is In' in one day!

All I can picture is a naked Trump self-fellating while rolling around the oval office in a sort of ouroboros of orange bronzer, jello-y flesh, and disheveled hairpiece while Republicans in the room look on with a gentle swelling of quiet pride.

I'm not sure what disturbs me more, that I read this or that you typed it. Lol

If you didn't stop reading at "naked Trump" then your brain lacks sufficient self-protection features

naked Trump calls?

[Morning Glory]

Trump is going for the never before accomplished 'Top and Bottom Is In' in one day!

All I can picture is a naked Trump self-fellating while rolling around the oval office in a sort of ouroboros of orange bronzer, jello-y flesh, and disheveled hairpiece while Republicans in the room look on with a gentle swelling of quiet pride.

I'm not sure what disturbs me more, that I read this or that you typed it. Lol

If you didn't stop reading at "naked Trump" then your brain lacks sufficient self-protection features

naked Trump calls?

Between him and JD, there's probably donors lined up for some lucrative plastic furniture cover contracts.

[41_swish]

The American Financial markets just feel made up at this point. I think it's all just a ponzi scheme to go up and right

[ATtiny85]

The American Financial markets just feel made up at this point. I think it's all just a ponzi scheme to go up and right

That’s why you should sell out of it, 100%. I would prefer millions of folks in the US do that. Since they would then likely have to work much longer, it will strengthen Social Security, which would decrease some error bars in my planning document. One sided error bars at that.

[aboatguy]

[41_swish]

The American Financial markets just feel made up at this point. I think it's all just a ponzi scheme to go up and right

That’s why you should sell out of it, 100%. I would prefer millions of folks in the US do that. Since they would then likely have to work much longer, it will strengthen Social Security, which would decrease some error bars in my planning document. One sided error bars at that.

I went all in on beanie babies. The markets are a scam

[Exflyboy]

Anybody have a clue what the "genius" in the WH is doing, cus I am so tired of all the winning that we are doing.

[Glenstache]

Anybody have a clue what the "genius" in the WH is doing, cus I am so tired of all the winning that we are doing.

Winning, when measured as a golf score... which the genius is doing often.

[41_swish]

He has some vision that our meager minds simply cannot comprehend.

[AuspiciousEight]

My name is Bond, James Bond.

[41_swish]

I should be buying bonds, but instead I am doubling down on stupid beanie babies that are older than me.

[aboatguy]

[ChpBstrd]

Trump has been quiet for like a week. Has anyone done a wellness check?

Hopefully it's just the next sex scandal being initiated. To whomever jumped on that orange grenade, we extend our sincerest thanks.

[GuitarStv]

One of the senile old coot's handlers probably told him to shut up after he did that ABC interview and showed he's too stupid to recognize labels on a diagram of pretend gang tattoos . . . while openly agreeing that he's defying the SC.  Don't worry, handlers can't keep a good president down and we'll be back to normal in a few days at most.

[BicycleB]

One of the senile old coot's handlers probably told him to shut up after he did that ABC interview and showed he's too stupid to recognize labels on a diagram of pretend gang tattoos . . . while openly agreeing that he's defying the SC.  Don't worry, handlers can't keep a good president down and we'll be back to normal in a few days at most.

@GuitarStv is right as usual.

I knew I should have sold all my stock today.

[Heckler]

Well kids, we’re back to Greed.  Why did it take so long for my financial institution to create our new joint account to get April 15 house downsizing invested?  Shit. I only managed to get 6k into trumps dump, it should’ve been 20x that

[dragoncar]

Well kids, we’re back to Greed.  Why did it take so long for my financial institution to create our new joint account to get April 15 house downsizing invested?  Shit. I only managed to get 6k into trumps dump, it should’ve been 20x that

I don’t think this is the last time he will cause market volatility.  Let him take a nap and try again.  (Top dump is in)

[Bobo629]

Anybody have a clue what the "genius" in the WH is doing, cus I am so tired of all the winning that we are doing.

Winning never gets old, but that only counts if you know what winning is. After watching all the winning, I have to reconsider my definition of winning. We went from a brain dead "president" who was too inept to hold a press conference and couldn't be trusted by his own people to speak for himself right to a guy that can hold press conferences all day long, do interviews in real time, and doesn't have to have a complicit media feed him soft balls to make it out alive...but you can't bank on anything he says, you never know what he's going to say, and in 20 minutes he'll say exactly the opposite and that's what he meant all along. We went from a completely inept buffoon, unfit for office from day 1, Weekend at Bernie's corpse holding the office of president, staggering inflation for four years, non-existent border, etc etc to an animated corpse powered by a stable genius brain, apparently firing off neurons in every which direction, all of them hooked to the mouth, with every single day giving us the possibility of a president saying something no one on Earth has ever said before. Is there a reset button we can push, like if we push and hold it in, everything shuts off in DC? Then we restart and maybe it'll work right this time...of course, I'm assuming the whole thing is a Windows based program. It's a lot to think about, and I don't have much time.

[Bobo629]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/28/investing/us-stocks-tariff-uncertainty-volatility/index.html

Tracking major US stock indexes since President Donald Trump took office
As of the last market close, the S&P was down 7.7%, the Dow was down 5.5% and the Nasdaq was down 12.3% in Trump's second term.

speaking of flammable piles....

Trump just threw the match...  fwoom!  Goodbye pile of cash

That's too bad - now I am no longer able to fund my planned Cybertruck purchase...

Purchasing cybertrucks is a suckers bet.  You can just cruise the highways looking for pieces that have flown off and assemble your own like a kit car.

Great idea... all my friends have been telling me that I'll be the laughing-stock of town if I am caught driving one around though. I wonder if wrapping it would help mitigate that problem.... that might actually help with keeping the pieces from flying off again too.

I keep thinking putting this ugly "truck" out was a joke? It just can't be real, right? Well, the vehicle is real, but this wasn't anyone's idea of the best they could do? Those trucks scare me, like I'm a little kid hiding in bed and I'm sure something is under my bed. Waiting. It's a primal fear that's not going away any time soon. That truck is the vehicle version of "winning".

[SwordGuy]

@Bobo629, I suggest you stop listening to the reich-wing propaganda and actually research Biden's accomplishments.

[BicycleB]

Anybody have a clue what the "genius" in the WH is doing, cus I am so tired of all the winning that we are doing.

Winning never gets old, but that only counts if you know what winning is. After watching all the winning, I have to reconsider my definition of winning. We went from a brain dead "president" who was too inept to hold a press conference and couldn't be trusted by his own people to speak for himself right to a guy that can hold press conferences all day long, do interviews in real time, and doesn't have to have a complicit media feed him soft balls to make it out alive...but you can't bank on anything he says, you never know what he's going to say, and in 20 minutes he'll say exactly the opposite and that's what he meant all along. We went from a completely inept buffoon, unfit for office from day 1, Weekend at Bernie's corpse holding the office of president, staggering inflation for four years, non-existent border, etc etc to an animated corpse powered by a stable genius brain, apparently firing off neurons in every which direction, all of them hooked to the mouth, with every single day giving us the possibility of a president saying something no one on Earth has ever said before. Is there a reset button we can push, like if we push and hold it in, everything shuts off in DC? Then we restart and maybe it'll work right this time...of course, I'm assuming the whole thing is a Windows based program. It's a lot to think about, and I don't have much time.

(consults old person memory) With all due respect, "staggering" is a bit overstated. Try 7-10% annualized for several years, like the 1970s, instead of a few months.

When most things rise in price by half instead of just a few, that's "staggering" imho. At least if you expect near-zero inflation as a matter of course. What we just did was more like "a blip" to me. Gas is nearly the same, for example, and most goods' prices a paltry 10 or 20% higher after several years as far as I can see.

(Checks rent, hears neighbors chatting pleasantly, birds chirping in the backyard patch of forest. Rent still about $580/mo like 30 months ago; gas still cheap; phone about the same; yeah, not staggering. Nice that portfolio's up about 50%, though. Maybe the tariffs will pump the inflation a little.)

Welcome the chat though.

After all - top is in! ;)

[aboatguy]

[techwiz]

Angry Cat bounce Top Is In!

[41_swish]

American markets are somehow up year to date. Nothing makes sense anymore. Time to keep buying and buying and check back when I am 40

[aboatguy]

[J.P. MoreGains]

American markets are somehow up year to date. Nothing makes sense anymore. Time to keep buying and buying and check back when I am 40

Yep... this was my first experience with a dip since I started tracking things in September 2023.

Really valuable learning experience for me. I don't check often but I hear/see news and can just infer from there.

Regardless it was useful to see how I reacted to that dip. I definitely need to be prepared for long term investing and be ready to ride out recessions.

[ChpBstrd]

American markets are somehow up year to date. Nothing makes sense anymore. Time to keep buying and buying and check back when I am 40

Yep... this was my first experience with a dip since I started tracking things in September 2023.

Really valuable learning experience for me. I don't check often but I hear/see news and can just infer from there.

Regardless it was useful to see how I reacted to that dip. I definitely need to be prepared for long term investing and be ready to ride out recessions.

In the big picture context, there are always alarming reasons for the top to be in. Yet it has never actually been in… until today.
Top is in.

[41_swish]

I think this recent bout of volatility was a good litmus test for how much risk tolerance people have. I certainly learned I have less than I thought. I think the lesson learned from this is that international exposure is good and not something to be scoffed at.

[aboatguy]

[J.P. MoreGains]

I think this recent bout of volatility was a good litmus test for how much risk tolerance people have. I certainly learned I have less than I thought. I think the lesson learned from this is that international exposure is good and not something to be scoffed at.

Yep, good litmus test for me. I have less risk tolerance than I also thought. Main thing is that I need to lock in place my portfolio and have the justifications for it deeply understood so that I can live with the decision and ride it out.

[41_swish]

I think it is also worth noting that the American markets have gone on a crazy run for the last five years. The annualized five year average is well above the long term historical norm.

[Exflyboy]

I think it is also worth noting that the American markets have gone on a crazy run for the last five years. The annualized five year average is well above the long term historical norm.

Yup I'm sure the Orange turd will "fix" that though!

[41_swish]

King Trump will walk on water and make us all cagillionares!! Quit doubting our emperor >:(

[aboatguy]

Looking a bit toppy, where's Thorstache?

[41_swish]

How does the market just keep pumping?

[EscapeVelocity2020]

I heard a new term over the weekend when Trump removed the EU tariffs - the TACO trade.  When Trump tweets a tariff threat, there aren't the crazy selloffs anymore because it is assumed Trump Always Chickens Out.  The market right now is assuming all of the Liberation Day reciprocal tariffs will be on pause indefinitely and Trump will claim victory.  Sure a blanket 10% import tariff is a big deal, but it's entirely possible that Trump even abandons that if unemployment, inflation, or Treasury yields spike...  So we're ultimately left with deregulation and tax cuts, which are the things the market actually likes.

I'm not saying I buy what the market is selling, but it gives a reason to ride it out and hope for new highs.

[J.P. MoreGains]

How does the market just keep pumping?

I don't know. There is a lot I don't know and understand.

I would really like to read and learn more about the stock market, investments, etc. so I have a better understanding.

Not so that I can try to beat the markets or anything just so I can be less ignorant.

Fortunately the "spend considerably less than you make and invest the difference in index funds" strategy is all I need to know to do well.

But I really don't know much and would like to understand all this stuff better. I'm impressed by some of the people on this forum.

[GuitarStv]

I heard a new term over the weekend when Trump removed the EU tariffs - the TACO trade.  When Trump tweets a tariff threat, there aren't the crazy selloffs anymore because it is assumed Trump Always Chickens Out.  The market right now is assuming all of the Liberation Day reciprocal tariffs will be on pause indefinitely and Trump will claim victory.  Sure a blanket 10% import tariff is a big deal, but it's entirely possible that Trump even abandons that if unemployment, inflation, or Treasury yields spike...  So we're ultimately left with deregulation and tax cuts, which are the things the market actually likes.

I'm not saying I buy what the market is selling, but it gives a reason to ride it out and hope for new highs.

This is the same thing the markets were doing before Trump randomly attacked Canada/Mexico.  And before liberation day too.  It still all comes down to the actions of the senile orange man.  If he gets it in his head to tank the markets with tariffs again, then the markets will have to react . . . or he'll decide that the tariffs are working and keep 'em in place.

[tooqk4u22]

How does the market just keep pumping?

I don't know. There is a lot I don't know and understand.

I would really like to read and learn more about the stock market, investments, etc. so I have a better understanding.

Not so that I can try to beat the markets or anything just so I can be less ignorant.

Fortunately the "spend considerably less than you make and invest the difference in index funds" strategy is all I need to know to do well.

But I really don't know much and would like to understand all this stuff better. I'm impressed by some of the people on this forum.

There are a lot of things that drive the markets that are intangible (sentiment) and tangible (profits) but now there is really only one mind that you have to understand.....and that mind is completely unlikely to be understood so I think the markets will default back to the normal drivers but with significant ups and downs until the orange guy is out of office and/or his power wanes with the house/senate.

[techwiz]

What is all this talk about TACO?  Taco Tuesday was yesterday.


We need to get back on message as was foretold by the great Thorstach!

Top is in!

[tooqk4u22]

TACO Top is in!!!

[dragoncar]

How does the market just keep pumping?

Classic top trap