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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10400 on: May 09, 2024, 04:55:13 PM »
ATH tomorrow.. whoop whoop!...:)

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10401 on: May 10, 2024, 02:02:37 PM »
ATH tomorrow.. whoop whoop!...:)
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Top is in!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10402 on: May 10, 2024, 02:08:56 PM »
My prediction was 32 points shy..:)

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10403 on: May 10, 2024, 02:49:47 PM »
My prediction was 32 points shy..:)

I popped in here knowing you would tell us your error in simple terms. 32 points is not that bad compared to our true leader...

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10404 on: May 10, 2024, 03:36:58 PM »
Let's start listing the reasons why the top is in. Should make good reading a month or year from now.
  • Rising unemployment trend
  • Falling consumer sentiment
  • Stubborn inflation - no rate cuts in sight
  • High government deficits

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10405 on: May 10, 2024, 04:50:58 PM »
Let's start listing the reasons why the top is in. Should make good reading a month or year from now.
  • Rising unemployment trend
  • Falling consumer sentiment
  • Stubborn inflation - no rate cuts in sight
  • High government deficits


Thorstach said so....Top reason is in!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10406 on: May 10, 2024, 04:55:05 PM »
The reason is in the top!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10407 on: May 10, 2024, 04:57:53 PM »
Let's start listing the reasons why the top is in. Should make good reading a month or year from now.
  • Rising unemployment trend
  • Falling consumer sentiment
  • Stubborn inflation - no rate cuts in sight
  • High government deficits


Thorstach said so....Top reason is in!

If @thorstach cuts off his 'stache does that automatically mean the top is in? Final and absolute? Would he come here and announce it and then close this thread?




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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10408 on: May 10, 2024, 08:32:39 PM »
Let's start listing the reasons why the top is in. Should make good reading a month or year from now.
  • Rising unemployment trend
  • Falling consumer sentiment
  • Stubborn inflation - no rate cuts in sight
  • High government deficits


Thorstach said so....Top reason is in!

If @thorstach cuts off his 'stache does that automatically mean the top is in? Final and absolute? Would he come here and announce it and then close this thread?

The top doesn’t happen because of reasons. It just is.

Because there is no reason that the top is, then there is nothing you can do to make the top end.

Thorstach has no control over the top. Thorstach is just the messenger that told us about it.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10409 on: May 13, 2024, 07:01:14 AM »
Fear and Greed index is at 48 (Neutral)  52 percent are greedy nonbelievers with hopes that this is a false top.  They are waiting for the return of the One True Top.  However, they are waiting in vain since the TOP is in.

I'm going to grab my metal detector to ensure the coffee can containing my stache is still buried where it was stashed.


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10410 on: May 13, 2024, 08:05:38 AM »
Fear and Greed index is at 48 (Neutral)  52 percent are greedy nonbelievers with hopes that this is a false top.  They are waiting for the return of the One True Top.  However, they are waiting in vain since the TOP is in.

I'm going to grab my metal detector to ensure the coffee can containing my stache is still buried where it was stashed.
You know, it's been several years. Might want to dig it up and replace the coffee can so it doesn't rust out.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10411 on: May 13, 2024, 08:49:05 AM »
Once you get it dug up and counted, we look forward to hearing what kind of rate of return you got from the ol' coffee can!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10412 on: May 13, 2024, 09:25:55 AM »
Fear and Greed index is at 48 (Neutral)  52 percent are greedy nonbelievers with hopes that this is a false top.  They are waiting for the return of the One True Top.  However, they are waiting in vain since the TOP is in.

I'm going to grab my metal detector to ensure the coffee can containing my stache is still buried where it was stashed.
You know, it's been several years. Might want to dig it up and replace the coffee can so it doesn't rust out.

The can was good!


Now I have to find a new place to stash the stache, and  move the X on the map since X no longer marks the spot.......
« Last Edit: May 13, 2024, 09:35:47 AM by aboatguy »

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10413 on: May 13, 2024, 09:27:32 AM »
Fear and Greed index is at 48 (Neutral)  52 percent are greedy nonbelievers with hopes that this is a false top.  They are waiting for the return of the One True Top.  However, they are waiting in vain since the TOP is in.

I'm going to grab my metal detector to ensure the coffee can containing my stache is still buried where it was stashed.
You know, it's been several years. Might want to dig it up and replace the coffee can so it doesn't rust out.

The can was good!

Gains are a bit of black mold and a truckstop bathroom funk,but I experienced no losses!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10414 on: May 14, 2024, 01:14:30 PM »
Let's start listing the reasons why the top is in. Should make good reading a month or year from now.
  • Rising unemployment trend
  • Falling consumer sentiment
  • Stubborn inflation - no rate cuts in sight
  • High government deficits


Thorstach said so....Top reason is in!

If @thorstach cuts off his 'stache does that automatically mean the top is in? Final and absolute? Would he come here and announce it and then close this thread?

The top doesn’t happen because of reasons. It just is.

Because there is no reason that the top is, then there is nothing you can do to make the top end.

Thorstach has no control over the top. Thorstach is just the messenger that told us about it.

So in essence, each and every one of us IS the top. It's something that is not only in us, but something that we as a whole make up. The top lives through us.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10415 on: May 15, 2024, 06:35:02 AM »
Greed is Back.  Fear will return after the greedy fools lose those shiny ducats they pour into the market, when the TOP is in.


Meanwhile the stashed Stache will continue to accumulate black mold safely protected underground by its coffee can...


FUN FACT
Storing money in warehouses doesn't work; Pablo Escobar was losing more than a billion dollars a year to Rats, vermin etc, on his warehoused stache. 

TOP IS IN!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10416 on: May 15, 2024, 06:50:44 AM »
ATH tomorrow.. whoop whoop!...:)
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Top is in!

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  Your time may be soon!


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10417 on: May 15, 2024, 07:24:29 AM »
FUN FACT
Storing money in warehouses doesn't work; Pablo Escobar was losing more than a billion dollars a year to Rats, vermin etc, on his warehoused stache. 

TOP IS IN!

Assuming his cash is all in 100$ bills, that's 10,000,000 100$ bills that he's losing every year.  A dollar bill weighs about a gram (https://greenlight.com/learning-center/fun-facts/how-much-does-a-dollar-weigh), and a 100 dollar bill is the same.  So that's 10,000 kg (22046.23 lbs) being eaten by rats each year.

Now rats eat between 15-25g of food each day (https://www.reddit.com/r/RATS/comments/s9fv2g/is_this_enough_food_for_3_rats_i_refill_it_once/), which works out to 5.4 - 9.1kg a year.  That means that (assuming the rats ate only money and nothing else) Escobar had between 1098 and 1851 rats roaming around his money vault.

I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10418 on: May 15, 2024, 07:34:15 AM »
ATH tomorrow.. whoop whoop!...:)
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Top is in!

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  Your time may be soon!






S&P 500 and NASDAQ rise to all-time highs at open after light consumer inflation report



Top is in!
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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10419 on: May 15, 2024, 07:56:12 AM »
FUN FACT
Storing money in warehouses doesn't work; Pablo Escobar was losing more than a billion dollars a year to Rats, vermin etc, on his warehoused stache. 

TOP IS IN!

Assuming his cash is all in 100$ bills, that's 10,000,000 100$ bills that he's losing every year.  A dollar bill weighs about a gram (https://greenlight.com/learning-center/fun-facts/how-much-does-a-dollar-weigh), and a 100 dollar bill is the same.  So that's 10,000 kg (22046.23 lbs) being eaten by rats each year.

Now rats eat between 15-25g of food each day (https://www.reddit.com/r/RATS/comments/s9fv2g/is_this_enough_food_for_3_rats_i_refill_it_once/), which works out to 5.4 - 9.1kg a year.  That means that (assuming the rats ate only money and nothing else) Escobar had between 1098 and 1851 rats roaming around his money vault.

I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

Since he spent thousands a month for rubber bands to hold the money and burned two million in cash to keep his daughter warm one night, I beleive he may have used rat poison.    This means the loses may be in spite of slaughtering those dirty rats!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10420 on: May 15, 2024, 07:58:55 AM »
FUN FACT
Storing money in warehouses doesn't work; Pablo Escobar was losing more than a billion dollars a year to Rats, vermin etc, on his warehoused stache. 

TOP IS IN!

Assuming his cash is all in 100$ bills, that's 10,000,000 100$ bills that he's losing every year.  A dollar bill weighs about a gram (https://greenlight.com/learning-center/fun-facts/how-much-does-a-dollar-weigh), and a 100 dollar bill is the same.  So that's 10,000 kg (22046.23 lbs) being eaten by rats each year.

Now rats eat between 15-25g of food each day (https://www.reddit.com/r/RATS/comments/s9fv2g/is_this_enough_food_for_3_rats_i_refill_it_once/), which works out to 5.4 - 9.1kg a year.  That means that (assuming the rats ate only money and nothing else) Escobar had between 1098 and 1851 rats roaming around his money vault.

I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

Since he spent thousands a month for rubber bands to hold the money and burned two million in cash to keep his daughter warm one night, I beleive he may have used rat poison.    This means the loses may be in spite of slaughtering those dirty rats!

I feel like he could have collected the poisoned rats and made his daughter a coat rather than burning two million in cash.  He doesn't seem like much of a savings optimizer.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10421 on: May 15, 2024, 09:10:14 AM »
FUN FACT
Storing money in warehouses doesn't work; Pablo Escobar was losing more than a billion dollars a year to Rats, vermin etc, on his warehoused stache. 

TOP IS IN!

Assuming his cash is all in 100$ bills, that's 10,000,000 100$ bills that he's losing every year.  A dollar bill weighs about a gram (https://greenlight.com/learning-center/fun-facts/how-much-does-a-dollar-weigh), and a 100 dollar bill is the same.  So that's 10,000 kg (22046.23 lbs) being eaten by rats each year.

Now rats eat between 15-25g of food each day (https://www.reddit.com/r/RATS/comments/s9fv2g/is_this_enough_food_for_3_rats_i_refill_it_once/), which works out to 5.4 - 9.1kg a year.  That means that (assuming the rats ate only money and nothing else) Escobar had between 1098 and 1851 rats roaming around his money vault.

I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

Since he spent thousands a month for rubber bands to hold the money and burned two million in cash to keep his daughter warm one night, I beleive he may have used rat poison.    This means the loses may be in spite of slaughtering those dirty rats!

I feel like he could have collected the poisoned rats and made his daughter a coat rather than burning two million in cash.  He doesn't seem like much of a savings optimizer.

I just want to applaud you for citing your sources. I’m very suspicious of discussions where people whip out numbers for the weight of dollar bills and how much rats can eat in a day without any way to back them up. It happens all the time…

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10422 on: May 15, 2024, 10:05:02 AM »
FUN FACT
Storing money in warehouses doesn't work; Pablo Escobar was losing more than a billion dollars a year to Rats, vermin etc, on his warehoused stache. 

TOP IS IN!

Assuming his cash is all in 100$ bills, that's 10,000,000 100$ bills that he's losing every year.  A dollar bill weighs about a gram (https://greenlight.com/learning-center/fun-facts/how-much-does-a-dollar-weigh), and a 100 dollar bill is the same.  So that's 10,000 kg (22046.23 lbs) being eaten by rats each year.

Now rats eat between 15-25g of food each day (https://www.reddit.com/r/RATS/comments/s9fv2g/is_this_enough_food_for_3_rats_i_refill_it_once/), which works out to 5.4 - 9.1kg a year.  That means that (assuming the rats ate only money and nothing else) Escobar had between 1098 and 1851 rats roaming around his money vault.

I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

Since he spent thousands a month for rubber bands to hold the money and burned two million in cash to keep his daughter warm one night, I beleive he may have used rat poison.    This means the loses may be in spite of slaughtering those dirty rats!

I feel like he could have collected the poisoned rats and made his daughter a coat rather than burning two million in cash.  He doesn't seem like much of a savings optimizer.

I just want to applaud you for citing your sources. I’m very suspicious of discussions where people whip out numbers for the weight of dollar bills and how much rats can eat in a day without any way to back them up. It happens all the time…
IDK about a Reddit post as a source. If that one person (or bot) is wrong, all our extrapolations from those data are wrong. If rats can eat more dollar bills than we think, then the supply of money will go down faster than we expect and the top will be in.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10423 on: May 15, 2024, 10:11:57 AM »
I want to the voice speaking up and saying the rats don't have to eat an entire $100 bill to render it value-less. My guess is this isn't a person who can send his rat-chewed bills into the treasury's mutated currency office to request replacements: https://www.bep.gov/services/mutilated-currency-redemption

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10424 on: May 15, 2024, 10:35:29 AM »
What's the minimum amount of bill that can remain before it can't be used?  Do you need 51% of the bill, or more than that?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10425 on: May 15, 2024, 11:41:00 AM »
I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

Yeah, but if you were him, would you trust your employees with rat poison?   Or anything, really?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10426 on: May 15, 2024, 11:45:56 AM »
I feel like for a billion dollars he could afford to get some rat poison.

Yeah, but if you were him, would you trust your employees with rat poison?   Or anything, really?

Not sure I'd have employees.  Once you get to 'warehouse of money being eaten by rats' levels of cash I think that you're probably ready to retire.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10427 on: May 15, 2024, 12:31:33 PM »
Did the Rats ruin the money by eating it or by other means like shredding it to use as nest material?  Or will Rat urine render the bill to a level of people won't accept it.   I believe the phrase is Plata y Plomo, not Urine or Feces.



Top is in...

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10428 on: May 15, 2024, 12:35:05 PM »
I just googled and found a story about an ATM in India ...."Rat Chews Up Nearly $18,000 and Dies in ATM"





When I was a young Boatguy the old Boatguys would alway talk about things being Rat-Fu@@@d, now I understand Rat-Fu@@@d ..
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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10429 on: May 15, 2024, 02:06:53 PM »
Welcome to the ATH top!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10430 on: May 15, 2024, 02:22:42 PM »
anyone ever seen this?


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10431 on: May 15, 2024, 02:32:12 PM »
When I woke up this morning, I had no idea the top would be in today.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10432 on: May 15, 2024, 02:34:26 PM »
When I woke up this morning, I had no idea the top would be in today.

Well you do now!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10433 on: May 15, 2024, 02:58:58 PM »
When I woke up this morning, I had no idea the top would be in today.

Woke up this mornin', got myself a gun...

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10434 on: May 15, 2024, 03:22:58 PM »
anyone ever seen this?


I had not? Source?

Explains a lot about The Top.


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10436 on: May 15, 2024, 10:29:03 PM »
I had not? Source?

Explains a lot about The Top.
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GME is also trending due to Twitter, currently known as X.  Explains a lot about society.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10437 on: May 16, 2024, 04:39:03 AM »
I have to say, all this questioning about sources really makes me sad. If you can't trust people's information about the top being in, who can you trust?

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10438 on: May 16, 2024, 06:40:18 AM »
I have to say, all this questioning about sources really makes me sad. If you can't trust people's information about the top being in, who can you trust?

Yeah, I thought it was universally understood the only source that actually matters around here is our true Top is in leader.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10439 on: May 16, 2024, 08:51:38 AM »
GREED IS BACK                   3 ATH TOP IS IN!
Dow                S&P 500           NASDAQ
40,014.34       5,320.42           16,777.38

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10440 on: May 16, 2024, 09:37:06 AM »
DOW 40k! BOOYAH!

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10441 on: May 16, 2024, 09:43:48 AM »
The DJIA was about 20500 when this thread started... this 100% return doesn't include dividends.... this can only mean that it will crash over 50% tomorrow.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10442 on: May 16, 2024, 02:32:54 PM »
ATH, is gone  Dow  40,014.34  gone.                S&P 500  5,320.42 gone.          NASDAQ 16,777.38 gone.   And now we are all poorer with their passing!
               
Now
DOW                S&P 500              NASDAQ
39,869.38        5,297.10             16,698.32


Markets were  soaring and got too hot,  like Icarus too close to the sun and now they plunged downward.    Hopefully, Rats don't shred my stashed stache. 


TOP IS IN.   

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10443 on: May 16, 2024, 02:34:59 PM »
The DJIA was about 20500 when this thread started... this 100% return doesn't include dividends.... this can only mean that it will crash over 50% tomorrow.

It's already started! The top was nice while it lasted.


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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10444 on: May 16, 2024, 02:35:23 PM »
ATH, is gone  Dow  40,014.34  gone.                S&P 500  5,320.42 gone.          NASDAQ 16,777.38 gone.   And now we are all poorer with their passing!
               
Now
DOW                S&P 500              NASDAQ
39,869.38        5,297.10             16,698.32


Markets were  soaring and got too hot,  like Icarus too close to the sun and now they plunged downward.    Hopefully, Rats don't shred my stashed stache. 


TOP IS IN.

This feels like poetry.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10445 on: May 16, 2024, 06:35:58 PM »
Here is my other favorite 'top is in' thread - it is on a message board of a site frequented by runners, but many of the threads are 'off topic'. This thread is up to over 60k of posts. (It looks like the link takes you to the most recent posting, not page #1). You don't even have to click the link - I just enjoy the message below, especially when we touched 40k today.

Topic: 'Down Goes the Dow'
Post #1, 8/27/2013

"Down to 14,850 from a peak of 15,700 I believe.

Maybe 5%

What's the bottom?

I am betting sub 13,000"


https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5369837
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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10446 on: May 17, 2024, 07:49:45 AM »



40,051.05 I miss you.  5,325.49 your time on earth was to short RIP 16,797.83!

Greed is still driving the market.  (63 on the fear greed index)  Looks like many non-believers will learn a life lesson, TOP IS IN.


Yesterday for a fleeting moment I forgot the Word of Thorstach and I thought the markets were boundless, then the ever TOP appeared and by the end of the day I was poorer than the day before.

May Rats never shred your stach.

TOP is in

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10447 on: May 17, 2024, 01:35:56 PM »
The DJIA was about 20500 when this thread started... this 100% return doesn't include dividends.... this can only mean that it will crash over 50% tomorrow.

It's already started! The top was nice while it lasted.

I think it's even worse. I was making a grocery run this morning and drove by a Starbucks. I glanced over and there was not a single vehicle in the drive-through. Talk about a sign of the apocalypse, it made me shudder and want to get home and bury my jars of bitcoins next to the creek out back.

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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10448 on: May 17, 2024, 01:50:11 PM »
The DJIA was about 20500 when this thread started... this 100% return doesn't include dividends.... this can only mean that it will crash over 50% tomorrow.

It's already started! The top was nice while it lasted.

I think it's even worse. I was making a grocery run this morning and drove by a Starbucks. I glanced over and there was not a single vehicle in the drive-through. Talk about a sign of the apocalypse, it made me shudder and want to get home and bury my jars of bitcoins next to the creek out back.

The horror! I'm starting to suspect we've hit peak coffee! Last week I went on a work trip with DW and while the hotel coffee claimed to be made with quality locally roasted  beans it was so thin I had to go out and BUY coffee for DW. I realized after a few cups that it tasted a lot like my own "second run" coffee. I realize it's totally absurd now that I'm FI, but sometimes I make a free cup of coffee about noon by reusing the grounds from the morning coffee. I refer to this abomination as cof-tea as it tastes almost, but not quite, entirely unlike coffee...

ETA: Sipping a cup now. mmm it's not quite coffee but it's also close to free.
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Re: Top is in
« Reply #10449 on: May 17, 2024, 06:47:23 PM »
The DJIA was about 20500 when this thread started... this 100% return doesn't include dividends.... this can only mean that it will crash over 50% tomorrow.

It's already started! The top was nice while it lasted.

I think it's even worse. I was making a grocery run this morning and drove by a Starbucks. I glanced over and there was not a single vehicle in the drive-through. Talk about a sign of the apocalypse, it made me shudder and want to get home and bury my jars of bitcoins next to the creek out back.

The horror! I'm starting to suspect we've hit peak coffee! Last week I went on a work trip with DW and while the hotel coffee claimed to be made with quality locally roasted  beans it was so thin I had to go out and BUY coffee for DW. I realized after a few cups that it tasted a lot like my own "second run" coffee. I realize it's totally absurd now that I'm FI, but sometimes I make a free cup of coffee about noon by reusing the grounds from the morning coffee. I refer to this abomination as cof-tea as it tastes almost, but not quite, entirely unlike coffee...

ETA: Sipping a cup now. mmm it's not quite coffee but it's also close to free.

About 10% of my FI budget is dedicated to good coffee. Have you considered going back to work so you can afford to use fresh grounds for every cup?