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Frugal As Fu*k Conference- looking for a cofounder!
« on: August 16, 2018, 11:26:25 AM »
Hello fellow Mustachians!   I am in the exploratory phase of a side hustle/passion project and I'm looking for a collaborator/partner in crime! I'm fascinated with public speaking as a medium for sharing information and inspiration. I'm also passionate about frugality, minimalism and the path to financial independence. I'd love to combine these two things into a conference called Frugal As F*ck!.... it would be best described as Ted Talks for Frugal Fanatics (I know, I know, this description needs some work, I'm just a real sucker for alliteration lol). I've done a number of things to get the ball rolling but I recognize that it will be more successful and a hell of a lot more fun if I found 1 or 2 people to partner with. If you're interested, send me a private message and let's chat!

I live in Cincinnati and intend to have the conference here, but open to partnering with someone who isn't based here. 

Here's my story:

Reading Mr. Money Mustache was like a refreshing punch in the face for me.  I started my frugal journey in September of 2015 when I discovered this blog.   At the time, I was $30k in debt because I was living outside my means in NYC and took out school loans despite getting a full academic scholarship.  After I came to my senses, I stopped wasting money, became creative about getting my needs met, and used my newfound resourcefulness to get out of $30k of debt in 11 months.  I cooked every meal I ate, got all my clothing from clothing exchanges, shared my internet with my neighbors, and charmed people into giving me free shit. 

My interest in frugality and onset of an early mid life crisis prompted by my 30th birthday helped me save money.  I moved to Cincinnati, took 2 months off of work to walk the Camino (a 500 mile trek across Spain), and bought a house. I discovered so much freedom in the lessons surrounding frugality and want to share this with others in a way that isnít as polarizing as much of the currently available content.  Frugal as Fu*k will be an exploration of the different shades of frugality. 

Looking forward to hearing from you!

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Re: Frugal As Fu*k Conference- looking for a cofounder!
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2018, 08:14:32 PM »
What do you want a collaborator to do?

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2018, 09:08:40 PM »
I'd recommend dropping the *.  We're all adults here.

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2018, 09:22:11 PM »
You want to attract people who are frugal, or you want to attract people who aspire to be frugal because they are in debt/poor?

Neither of these markets seems likely to shower you with $$$$ for your conference. MMM makes his hustle off advertising, but that seems like a hard sell in a conference setting. Are you expecting to rent booths to companies in a vendor floor or such? How do you feel about renting to payday loan sharks?

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2018, 09:29:26 PM »
What do you want a collaborator to do?

Yep. No way I go in on anything until I have a way to figure out if you are any good at public speaking, marketing, developing good materials, finding other good speakers, etc. 

And, there are already Camp Mustache (s) at various locations, and Camp FI, and Dave Ramsey, and... chataqua.... and....

And @AccidentialMustache makes a good point about getting $$$ out of frugal people... or those who need to become frugal

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2018, 01:55:42 PM »
What do you want a collaborator to do?

I'm looking for a cofounder to help solidify the overall vision and strategy, help with outreach and logistics... basically build this badass conference with me!  Ideally it would be someone who is good with graphic design/website/techy stuff as that's not my forte.  Would be great to find someone that would complement my skill set (cold calling, sales, logistics, planning, task management is more in my wheelhouse).  If you're interested, let's chat over the phone... feel free to private message me!

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2018, 01:56:24 PM »
I'd recommend dropping the *.  We're all adults here.

You're right AS FUCK Ketchup! :)

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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2018, 02:13:44 PM »
You want to attract people who are frugal, or you want to attract people who aspire to be frugal because they are in debt/poor?

Neither of these markets seems likely to shower you with $$$$ for your conference. MMM makes his hustle off advertising, but that seems like a hard sell in a conference setting. Are you expecting to rent booths to companies in a vendor floor or such? How do you feel about renting to payday loan sharks?

I want to attract people that are frugal but are looking for inspiration and connection with other like minded people.  When I was in debt, I wouldn't spend $ on something like this and I'm not gearing it towards that audience.  I'm looking to attract people who are financially stable (like myself) and are flirting with financial independence but perhaps looking for more resources to build up their frugal muscles.  There are so many other resources to get this kind of info including blogs, podcasts, books, etc but I find something really powerful about the medium of public speaking.  Yes, you can watch Ted Talks online but its not the same.  Similar to how listening to music at home isn't the same as seeing your favorite band in concert.  In my personal experience, the energy of the performance and the people around you can move you in ways that sitting in front of a screen can't. 

I don't expect to be showered with money but no business is sustainable if it isn't profitable.  So if I discover in this exploratory exercise that no one is willing to pay for this, then great.  I'll move on to another idea. 

However, I think there are frugal people in the world like me who don't see frugality as not spending money, but rather spending money on things that matter to them.  I spend $600 each year for my ticket to World Domination Summit and it's worth every penny for the amount of inspiration and connection I get there.  I spent about $5,000 to take 2 months walking across Spain on the Camino.  It was a life changing experience that was worth every penny.  So if I'm going to bring Frugal as Fuck into the world, I need to make it worth the money.  I wouldn't charge $600, it would be much more reasonable and the cost of the event would be supplemented by sponsors and grants.  There will be no booths or vendor floor, it will be a program of speakers talking about different aspects of frugality, minimalism, and financial independence. 


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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2018, 02:41:59 PM »
What do you want a collaborator to do?

Yep. No way I go in on anything until I have a way to figure out if you are any good at public speaking, marketing, developing good materials, finding other good speakers, etc. 

And, there are already Camp Mustache (s) at various locations, and Camp FI, and Dave Ramsey, and... chataqua.... and....

And @AccidentialMustache makes a good point about getting $$$ out of frugal people... or those who need to become frugal

Totally agree, I wouldn't want to partner with someone who I didn't feel brought a skill set to the table.  I find it easier to talk over the phone but I'll try a quick snapshot here...

Regarding my public speaking skills, I do stand up comedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_6Fo4bMok&index=3&list=PLaz8eJ8ZTd-IPsXMpNnWUA4GCEbLI_nEK&t=0s

Regarding marketing, I work for the largest brand extension company in the world (responsible for $12.8B in retail sales of licensed product):http://www.caa-gbg.com/.  I work with companies everyday to build business and marketing plans for licensed products.  Attached is my "resume" to demonstrate my ability to develop good materials and my track record of sales success.  Some of my clients include Anheuser Busch, Jelly Belly, Cheesecake Factory, Hershey's, Bob Marley's estate, and Drew Barrymore. 

Finding other good speakers comes down to cold calling, selling, and networking which is a strong skill set of mine from my professional career. 

I'm also producing a clothing exchange event with a local non profit that is expected to attract 400 people this fall (to further demonstrate my marketing skills): https://www.facebook.com/events/315676305672107/

We just launched marketing for this event this week and were already contacted by channel 9 news so I get to be on camera on Oct 18 further promoting this event!

I'm participating in an accelerator this fall to further validate this venture (and even if it turns out to be a dumb idea, this course will be beneficial no matter what I decide to pursue): https://aviatraaccelerators.org/.  And I've consulted with 4 founders of other successful profitable conferences who've given me great advice thus far. 

Yes, there are other gatherings of people like Camp Mustache, etc.  There were also other blogs about this topic when MMM launched his... aren't we all glad that didn't stop him? Should no one open a restaurant or start a farm or have a child because those things already exist in the world?  I believe I can create something unique despite what already exists.  Doing the market research, understanding the landscape for this stuff, and how to position Frugal as Fuck are questions I'm in the process of answering during this exploratory process (and a cofounder could really help with this!)

Love this speech on DUMB ideas which might be relevant for this conversation (as maybe this is a dumb idea, time will tell!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URDcfCzeIdw

Very much appreciate your feedback!


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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2018, 03:13:51 PM »
Dumb ideas are better than no ideas - and lead to better ideas. Youíve got to start somewhere.

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 07:03:27 PM »
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graphic design/website/techy stuff

That stuff can easily be outsourced. You can use Fiverr for graphic design. You can make your own website pretty easily. And you already have a youtube channel which is a good place to put your talks.

Instead of using an asterisk for easy to offend people, how about F.A.K.? (I think FAF looks weird, I would take liberties with the acronym)

I don't think it's a dumb idea, plenty of people have careers as an aspirational speaker. It just seems like a one person gig to me.