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jeromedawg

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Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« on: October 20, 2018, 07:08:59 PM »
Hey all,

I was looking at Frugalwoods' cabinet paint job and saw they tried using several methods of propping up the cabinet doors, where they preferred the first method which is nails/brads through scrapwood shims. I was curious though what the process is when you are going to paint the second side. Do you generally want the first side you painted to dry a bit before flipping it over regardless of whether your priming or painting and also regardless of which coat you're on? Or do you flip right after painting one side? I'd imagine it would be tricky trying to flip while still wet no?

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Re: Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2018, 07:52:35 PM »
Paint the "side that won't be seen" first, then immediately flip over onto your pyramids and paint the "show side". That way, any small dots from the pyramids are on the hidden side. They'll disappear during sanding and subsequent coats.

If you're that concerned about both sides, let the first side completely dry before doing to the second side. This will take extra time for the entire process, of course.

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Re: Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2018, 08:40:29 PM »
I just finished painting my mother's cabinets, and no matter how long I waited to flip (4 hrs - 72 hrs), the paint would stick to the boards and come off when I lifted them.  The chips were minor and I didn't mind them that much because she has really crappy cabinets and it was mostly on the inside, but if I were do do it again I want to try letting them dry 24 hours between flips and then putting some parchment paper between the door and the board.  I think that would be just the trick and they would be chip free.

What I ended up doing was waiting until I hung them and then I did some touch ups on the chipped areas.  They were minimal and mainly on the inside of the doors so don't show too much.

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Re: Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2018, 09:02:50 PM »
Thanks guys - do you generally do the "full cycle" (multiple primer coats AND the paint) on each side completely *before* flipping? Or do you prime side 1/ flip/prime side 2/repeat then move to paint side 1/flip/paint side 2/repeat?

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Re: Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2018, 07:39:20 AM »
I was looking at Frugalwoods' cabinet paint job and saw they tried using several methods of propping up the cabinet doors, where they preferred the first method which is nails/brads through scrapwood shims. I was curious though what the process is when you are going to paint the second side. Do you generally want the first side you painted to dry a bit before flipping it over regardless of whether your priming or painting and also regardless of which coat you're on? Or do you flip right after painting one side? I'd imagine it would be tricky trying to flip while still wet no?

I used to use nails through scrap pieces of wood but tried plastic painters pyramids and much prefer them. With nails, it is easy to apply a little pressure onto your project which caused the nails to leave divots behind. With painters pyramids, they are blunt enough that doesn't happen. I also find they have less tendency to stick to whatever you are applying. Painter pyramids are so cheap, I'm not sure why one would want to scrimp and go through the hassle of using nails anyway.

To answer your other question, whatever coat I'm applying, I put the coat on the least important side first and then flip and paint the show side and edges last. Repeat for every coat you apply.

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Re: Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2018, 05:49:28 PM »
I was looking at Frugalwoods' cabinet paint job and saw they tried using several methods of propping up the cabinet doors, where they preferred the first method which is nails/brads through scrapwood shims. I was curious though what the process is when you are going to paint the second side. Do you generally want the first side you painted to dry a bit before flipping it over regardless of whether your priming or painting and also regardless of which coat you're on? Or do you flip right after painting one side? I'd imagine it would be tricky trying to flip while still wet no?

I used to use nails through scrap pieces of wood but tried plastic painters pyramids and much prefer them. With nails, it is easy to apply a little pressure onto your project which caused the nails to leave divots behind. With painters pyramids, they are blunt enough that doesn't happen. I also find they have less tendency to stick to whatever you are applying. Painter pyramids are so cheap, I'm not sure why one would want to scrimp and go through the hassle of using nails anyway.

To answer your other question, whatever coat I'm applying, I put the coat on the least important side first and then flip and paint the show side and edges last. Repeat for every coat you apply.

Thanks! Yea... they are relatively cheap. I made a bunch of wood block/drywall screw props last night though which was a chore lol. I filed down the tips of the screws with a file so the wouldn't be as sharp but they'll probably still create divots.

Ah so you coat both sides between every coat rather than doing one side 'start to finish' and then flipping.


BTW looks like HomeDepot sells HDX branded tripods for $4.97 for 10 count. I have 9 upper cabinets that I was wanting to paint all at once and I made 32 of the wood block/nail props. I guess another $15-20 wouldn't have hurt so bad for all the effort I put into these dumb blocks/nails. I wonder if maybe I should at least tape the slightly-blunted tips with masking, painters or even duct tape to reduce the divoting.
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Re: Painters Pyramid alternatives and process for second side
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 11:37:43 AM »
I am in the process of painting my kitchen cabinets. After a few you-tube videos, I poached a system that worked well for me.

Using small hooks and hangers removes the waiting time or lines from stacking.

- pre-drill into a spot that you won't see on either end of the cabinet (uppers on the upper side, lowers on the lower side, drawers on the lower side)

- screw in the hooks.
- hang on a hanger.
- paint away. In my set up i'm using a sprayer, but doing it with a roller or brush worked just as well.

If you are really picky you can fill in the holes from the hooks later.

https://ibb.co/c3OEKq heres a link to a pic of it.