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Mel70

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Morning whine... DYI
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:27:26 AM »
Clarifying: I love this whole Mustachian thing... especially the DYI, make your own, etc.

BUT:

Does it happen to you that once you start a project, everything you find about fixing/replacing/building stuff online seems so simple, yet at one point you are stuck and there is no way to know what to do as the hardware, material, size, tools don't match your situation and you are stuck?

Also, minor things such as not being able to move something by yourself?

I hate that the tools are so heavy and the handles don't work well with my smaller hands, so I have a hard time keeping things in place...

I have an older home, so all the nice tips and videos don't apply to the type of hardware my house has...

I am all for learning and applying what I see, but I look at the printed instructions and they don't make sense to me... or there is a factor not accounted for, such as colors in the cables or missing screws?

Am I the only one?

Done.

Yeah, I'll get over it and will try to get something done today. No, I don't generally whine this much but today... I just had to.

 


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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 11:54:38 AM »
You are just inexperienced.  Each project that you take on will teach you a little something that you will retain, and eventually know what to expect and for the most part be prepared, prior to starting  a project.   Don't physically break your back moving or lifting things, there are tools and methods where a single person can move large and heavy things; ramps, levers, pry bars, shims, rollers, jacks, com-a-longs, dollys, etc. are made for this stuff.   Good saw horses, work benches, vices, clamps, straight edges, etc. do wonders for holding things in place and assisting your work. 

Keep accumulating tools and knowledge and these projects will get easier each time.
The difficult ones are just "challenges".

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 04:32:48 PM »
When I first started repairing my own cars, I was missing/broke a tool or had some other setback seemingly more than half the time. After a while of gaining experience and buying a more complete toolset, there are very few auto mechanical jobs that I wouldn't dive in to tackle now.

Same story in a less severe way with DIY house repairs. When you have no tools and no experience, it's a long, uphill battle to do even not very complex jobs. Later, even moderately complex jobs are routine, simply time and effort consuming.

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 05:03:48 PM »
If you have no one that can help you or teach you (I bet you have a handy friend that would help out) you can always pay someone and watch and learn from them.  Mine most recently was working as the helper for my hvac guy when I had to reroute most of the ductwork (from a major gut job reno) and install a new furnace. Man did I pick up a lot! 


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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 05:04:26 PM »
This happened to me while I was replacing a ceiling fan. Halfway through, I needed to borrow a tool I didn't own. Also, I realized that holding a ceiling fan and tools above my head while balancing on a ladder was a kind of torture. I finished it, but when it was done, I vowed never to do it again.

Also - my stupid running toilet. Long ago, early in my MMM kick, I learned how to change a flapper. Then I learned how to change all the other innards of the toilet tank. I've been pretty golden on fixing toilet problems. So I replace every damn thing in this toilet, and it still keeps on leaking. The last thing is the flush seal, and I buy this repair kit online. When I get it, I look at the picture in the instruction and it looks nothing like my toilet. I can't even begin to guess what side of the repair kit goes where and what does what. The instructions make zero sense.

I just gave up and called a plumber.

Also on my list of failures: Tried to adjust my own sprinkler heads. Read instructions, bought a special tool, watched YouTube videos... and broke one right off. Ended up having to hire someone to both replace that one and adjust the rest.

But I can put furniture together, fix a leaky faucet, and replace a toilet flapper or a light switch like a pro. You don't know how easy some things are to fix until you try... and you don't know how hard something is either.


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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 05:26:46 PM »
This happened to me while I was replacing a ceiling fan. Halfway through, I needed to borrow a tool I didn't own. Also, I realized that holding a ceiling fan and tools above my head while balancing on a ladder was a kind of torture. I finished it, but when it was done, I vowed never to do it again.

Also - my stupid running toilet. Long ago, early in my MMM kick, I learned how to change a flapper. Then I learned how to change all the other innards of the toilet tank. I've been pretty golden on fixing toilet problems. So I replace every damn thing in this toilet, and it still keeps on leaking. The last thing is the flush seal, and I buy this repair kit online. When I get it, I look at the picture in the instruction and it looks nothing like my toilet. I can't even begin to guess what side of the repair kit goes where and what does what. The instructions make zero sense.

I just gave up and called a plumber.

Also on my list of failures: Tried to adjust my own sprinkler heads. Read instructions, bought a special tool, watched YouTube videos... and broke one right off. Ended up having to hire someone to both replace that one and adjust the rest.

But I can put furniture together, fix a leaky faucet, and replace a toilet flapper or a light switch like a pro. You don't know how easy some things are to fix until you try... and you don't know how hard something is either.

Next time on the toilet issue (or most other plumbing fixtures) call the manufacturer.  They should walk you through the process if you don't have the original installation instructions. 


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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2016, 01:04:52 AM »
This shit happens. All. Of. The. Times.   

Projects never go as easy as I plan. I'm several weeks behind on my current one. And the worst thing about having no experience DIYing your own house - you have to practice on your own house. Every mistake is wrecking YOUR stuff.  It can be incredibly frustrating.  After my current project, I've come to a decision on house repairs - multi day projects will be outsourced. My hourly rate is much, much higher than what a contractor charges, and as such there is little reason for me to tackle complex, laborious projects that span several days.  It's all a learning experience.

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2016, 07:20:23 AM »
I've worked with my hands and tools all of my life so most of this stuff comes pretty easy to me, but I will admit that there is a small segment of society that just seems to be very uncomfortable and clumsy doing any kind of work with their hands or tools.   If you are one of these types you probably would be much better served to stick with making money at what you know, and hire out your maintenance, remodeling and repair work.

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 08:26:17 AM »
My main problem seems to be maintaining focus.  I am gung-ho at the beginning of a large project.  Around the middle, it is getting tedious.  Often at this point, work slows down and my eyes start wondering to other projects like a sleazy businessman on a Vegas business trip. 

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 08:49:52 AM »
I've worked with my hands and tools all of my life so most of this stuff comes pretty easy to me, but I will admit that there is a small segment of society that just seems to be very uncomfortable and clumsy doing any kind of work with their hands or tools.   If you are one of these types you probably would be much better served to stick with making money at what you know, and hire out your maintenance, remodeling and repair work.


Good point. I have a neighbor who is really eager to be a good DIYer,  absolutely shouldn't be allowed near a power tool,  absolutely sucks at doing anything with his hands, and is typically totally impressed with the results of his efforts, LOL. That said, he is an awesome guy in general, and excels at his "real" job as a counselor for disabled vets.

 The other point to ponder is that it doesn't matter if you are dealing with a pro. service tech. (electrician, plumber, HVAC tech. etc....) builder, or remodeler, they all have problems doing their job, and frequently have to throw a flag on the play, and move on.  You get called to a job to change a breaker in an electrical panel, open the panel and find far larger issues. You're can't go any further, and you need to bill for a service call that acomplished nothing, and inform the customer that a $150 job is now a $1000 job. You show up to install a new toilet and find that the vinyl flooring under the toilet has nicely concealed a leaking toilet flange, and severe rot. The existing toilet is sitting on what used to be a wooden subfloor, but now looks more like wet potting soil. You and your crew show up to start building a deck and discover the lumber company truck has located an abandoned septic tank in the customer's yard. You know this, since you can see the truck's rear end had disappeared in a sink hole in the yard, and the headlights are pointing to the sky.  You then get to battle the lumberyard over who pays for the $1000 tow truck bill, and then have your guys waste 1/2 a day had unloading a truck. Next the homeowner want's you to fix the hole in the yard, even though he "forgot" to mention it, when he told you there were no problems with driving a truck around the house.

The difference between being a DIYer and a pro isn't just the lack of tools and experience, it's the reality that Murphy's law is real, and bites you in the ass on a regular basis.  As a pro. you factor that in to the game.  As a DIYer you are more likely to mistakenly believe that you are under a dark cloud, and the god's are making it clear that you shouldn't be doing this. The cure for most is to soldier on, lick your wounds and never give up.  In a while you are no longer all thumbs, you have enough tools to tackle the job, and you have gained the confidence to get it done.

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2016, 09:59:05 AM »
Hah!  When I suggested to my mechanic that I was planning to DIY some basic stuff; he said to invite him over and he'd pay to watch.

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Re: Morning whine... DYI
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2016, 11:50:06 AM »
Some great posts, thanks! Yeah, about that Murphy's Law, it sucks.

 

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