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So mice have been getting in through the exterior-especially the garage to the house (this is at the front though by the front deck). Pulled all the insulation out and found this. The wood piled up i pulled apart with my hands. It only seems to be in this one joist rim. Any ideas on how to fix?  *note the video uploaded cut short-I showed a gap in the other joist but none of the other wood in the ones next to this one is this "soft". I know water has gotten in here before and the corner when my gutters were clogged, but I've cleaned them all year and it hasn't done that since.  Is there a proper way to fix this board?

Joists repair https://imgur.com/a/89DkKOy

Also any idea on how to insulate the walls? They're already framed up, electrical has been run but stupidly I didn't glue foam board up prior. I'm in Michigan so I'm between insulation and not/just throwing up some drywall and flooring. I'm finishing it to add a bathroom but nothing too fancy.

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Re: Mice proofing basement found some rot/insulating options? (video)
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2018, 08:43:11 AM »
Its hard to tell from the video, but I think you could sister up additional 2x10 or 2x8 for support if you need it for structural reinforcement.

I like rock wood since the bats are easy to cut with a bread knife and it doesn't irritate as much as fiber glass.  You could also put up the mesh netting over the studs and blow in dense pack cellulose from the top.  This fills the gaps pretty well.

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Re: Mice proofing basement found some rot/insulating options? (video)
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2018, 09:05:39 AM »
   Sounds like you are sealing it up well. Spray foam can also help some, esp if you use some coarse steel wool as a support.   Mice are tough to keep out, the little vermin get in every fall when the weather turns cold. Not a huge problem with 4 indoor only cats though. Two of the cats are stone cold killers beneath their fuzzy friendly exterior. I am sure you can find or adopt a mobile mouse elimination machine for free and they are also fine toe warmers in the winter. :)

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Re: Mice proofing basement found some rot/insulating options? (video)
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2018, 01:56:41 PM »
Desk issues. Mice and water getting in. Look at the second to last underneath shot (wedged board?) https://imgur.com/a/dnTrEPT


Edit so i laid down near  the front siding deck and this is the gap i see. Look at that freaking board keeping it out. No wonder  mice are getting in. I'm  assuming that flashing  by the door might be letting water come in.


So.....not being a carpenter or anything i think my pplan of attack is take off that panel of siding then try to hammer that crooked board in. Nail a new one in the hole. Foam and seal it up. Any ideas? Thanks

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Re: Mice proofing basement found some rot/insulating options? (video)
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2018, 03:20:20 AM »
normally, the sheathing (OSB or plywood) wood come down just over your foundation block and you caulk the the point where the sheathing meets the foundation all the way around, but I don't see any sheathing which means it is probably sitting up somewhat higher.  If you can get to it from inside, try to use some kind of backer (plywood or foam board and then foam in the gaps with the black cans of greats stuff (higher expansion).  If this doesn't seem possible, you might want to consider removing a few rows of siding, ripping a few narrow pieces of sheathing, attaching them to the studs, and reattaching the siding.  The key is definitely filling the gap though. 

As for the water intrusion--yes, more likely than not, it isn't flashed properly.  The only good way to do this is to remove the siding right below the door on both sides, pull up the deck board.  Then you put the metal flashing over your ledger board (so it will sit under the deck board when you reattach it) I use window flashing tape to adhere the vertical part of the metal flashing to the sheathing/wall.  That way, any wind driven rain drains right over the flashing and goes below the deck instead of under your door sill.

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Re: Mice proofing basement found some rot/insulating options? (video)
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2018, 08:06:53 PM »
so I believe the rim sill plate wood piece is the one protruding. No idea how it came out like that but yeah. I have the foam and some new boards cut for the interior. I was going to foam then screw a new board between the joist over it to seal it up/reinforce it!

I will pull up the top board tomorrow and have some pictures of what's going on. I do know theres is siding set behind the ledger board (it is detached from the house).  Definitely looking forward to solving this issue

 

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