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mikefixac

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Low Salt Eating
« on: October 23, 2013, 03:54:30 PM »
Is anyone here eating a low salt/sodium diet?

If so, do you have a few go to's that's simple?

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 04:29:18 PM »
Iodine in an important mineral... no, I would not be on any low salt diet. I use low sodium, sea salt with iodine.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 05:05:26 PM »
I'm not on a low-salt diet, though it seems to be a craze these days.  Can anyone tell me why?  If you are healthy, fit, and don't have high blood pressure is there any reason to be on a low-salt diet?  I *love* salt!

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 10:16:13 PM »
Salt is ok in moderation but is often included in food for no apparent reason. Reducing one's salt intake is easy, getting used to the taste is tougher.  After a few days you get used to it.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 10:18:06 PM »
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I'm not on a low-salt diet, though it seems to be a craze these days.  Can anyone tell me why?  If you are healthy, fit, and don't have high blood pressure is there any reason to be on a low-salt diet?  I *love* salt!

From my understanding, we need 150-180mg sodium/day at the least for survival. The avg American eats 3450mg of sodium/day. The IOM recommends ~1200mg with an upper limit on 2300mg.

There is no salt (0%, nada) in whole plant based food and very little sodium. Almost 100% of what we eat has salt, and is very high in sodium. Restaurants don't have to tell you how much salt is in their food. Often as high as 6000mg/one entree.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 10:37:35 PM »
Somewhat ironically, I have had doctors suggest two changes to my diet.

One, adding salt.  Two, increasing alcohol intake.

I'm not on a low salt diet.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 11:13:38 PM »
Have you read the book Salt, Sugar, Fat?  One topic discussed is where all the salt in people's diet's is coming from these days.  The book manages to devote a whole section to salt, but the condensed version is:  high sodium consumption is largely due to increases in consumption of processed foods.  The salt coming out of your salt shaker is typically minimal.  So doing your own cooking is the best way to eat a "low sodium" diet.  Incidentally, it's also the best way to eat cheaply!

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 07:15:16 AM »
If you cut out salt, make sure to get your iodine from somewhere, as your body doesn't produce this on its own. Your thyroid depends on sufficient iodine levels.


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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 07:37:43 AM »
I think your go to's should be fresh vegetables, fresh meat...or real foods.  As stated above, anything from a box, can, sealed in plastic, or a restaurant will usually contain crazy amounts of salt and/or sodium.

I love salt, it does amazing things to food.  Coat a slab of meat with salt and grill it.  That's my simple go to. mmmmmmmm.  Most of the salt drips away with the fat and you are left with delicious, delicious meat.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 07:43:14 AM »
I'm in agreement with what most everybody has already said - cut out processed foods, cook for yourself, and don't worry about the salt.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 09:42:39 AM »
I'm in agreement with what most everybody has already said - cut out processed foods, cook for yourself, and don't worry about the salt.

Provided you don't have high blood pressure or some other condition, then this is absolutely 100% the answer.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 10:19:41 AM »
If you cook for yourself, mostly from scratch, worry about salt.

Several years back, while visiting my surgeon for a pre-surgery discussion, I feinted. This is pretty normal thing apparently (lots of people, while not having problems with seeing blood etc, tend to get light headed when discussing the details of cutting up their own body - go figure). Anyways, it led to a discussion about how I'd been having numerous dizzy spells and issues with standing up too fast (and then collapsing semi-conscious). I'd thought it was low blood iron (fit all the descriptions), but blood tests showed my blood iron was fine and my GP was essentially stumped.

My surgeon looked at me and said: "Let me guess, you are reasonably athletic, participate in sports and workout three or four times a week. You cook most your own food, with a lot of pasta, veggies, and meat. You eat one or two big fast food meals per week." Yup, nailed it. "The only reason you are still functional is because you eat fast food."

Huh?

"You never add salt to anything you cook, except salting your pasta water, right?" Yup.

Seems she'd seen this in a lot of weekend warrior athletes recently. We've been told sodium is bad for so long we've forgotten that we need a fair amount of it (as mentioned previously, something like 1200mg/day). When you work out a lot, you sweat even more of it away. My weekly Wendy's ritual was just barely supply my weekly salt requirements.

She told me to cook with more salt. Put salt on my steamed veggies, add salt to soups and stews, etc. This was actually really hard for me, because outside of a few snack foods, I don't like salty foods.

So yes, everything in moderation, not enough salt will kill you just as surely as too much.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 10:21:08 AM »
Iodine in an important mineral... no, I would not be on any low salt diet. I use low sodium, sea salt with iodine.

Just to clarify - sea salt is not low sodium (what you are buying may be low sodium if it has potassium chloride in it).  Sea salt is essentially "dirty salt" which tastes good because of the impurities.  Table salt is more purified sodium chloride.  Iodine is added to both as mentioned above because it is important to get in our diet.

See http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sea-salt/AN01142 for a reference on sodium levels.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 10:25:20 AM »
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If you cut out salt, make sure to get your iodine from somewhere, as your body doesn't produce this on its own.

Most salt today does not come with iodine. Though 80% of the salt we consume comes in manufactured foods, the manufacturers add no iodine.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2013, 11:04:44 AM »
Iodine in an important mineral... no, I would not be on any low salt diet. I use low sodium, sea salt with iodine.

Just to clarify - sea salt is not low sodium (what you are buying may be low sodium if it has potassium chloride in it).  Sea salt is essentially "dirty salt" which tastes good because of the impurities.  Table salt is more purified sodium chloride.  Iodine is added to both as mentioned above because it is important to get in our diet.

See http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sea-salt/AN01142 for a reference on sodium levels.

Thanks for the link. Table salt is more processed it seems, as sea salt is less, leaving more trace minerals in tact. I'm sticking with sea salt with iodine.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 11:13:48 AM »
As long as you are exercising, salt isn't an issue, you sweat it out.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 08:04:12 PM »
50% reaching 60 have HBP. The other 50% by the time they reach 85, 90% of them have HBP.

Less than 1 out of 200 follow the Institue of Medicine's guidelines of 1500mg/day sodium.

Since <.5% follow the IOM guidelines, it only natural that everyone disagree with the science.

Don't mean to argue with my fellow mustachians, and I'll be leaving this topic alone.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2013, 02:48:16 AM »
While cutting out processed cardboard-box foods is a start before I had to switch to a low-salt diet I hadn't realised quite how high in salt the following generally are when store-bought:

Bread
Condiments (ketchup, bbq sauce, mustard etc.)
Tinned or carton soups
Baked beans
Jarred cooking sauces
Cheese
Bacon
Sausages
Sliced Lunch Meats e.g. ham
Smoked food
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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2013, 12:56:10 PM »
When you cut out all that processed food, you then can afford to eat real food (meat and veggies) and use iodine rich salt.

High blood pressure is so much more than just too much salt..its eating all the processed food that cause inflammation too.

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Re: Low Salt Eating
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2013, 02:02:27 PM »
While cutting out processed cardboard-box foods is a start before I had to switch to a low-salt diet I hadn't realised quite how high in salt the following generally are when store-bought:

Bread
Condiments (ketchup, bbq sauce, mustard etc.)
Tinned or carton soups
Baked beans
Jarred cooking sauces
Cheese
Bacon
Sausages
Sliced Lunch Meats e.g. ham
Smoked food
Stock

See, I would consider most of those items to be processed foods if not made from scratch at home.  Probably the only things we eat on that list in the store-bought iterations are cheeses and bacon, but if you're watching your grocery budget those are probably going to be only occasional items.

I'm not saying people shouldn't worry about salt/sodium at all, and certainly if your BP is a concern, do watch it.  But for most people who cook their own food and avoid processed stuff, it's not worth losing sleep over.

 

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