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kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« on: February 07, 2019, 07:52:07 AM »
We're remodeling/expanding kitchen in our 1930s cottage. After getting a ridiculous $80k quote that included almost no cabinets from a well recommended build and design firm we decided to do a combination DIY and local GC (for the gas/plumbing/construction) at much lower cost. Before we can put in our cabinet order (going with cabinetjoint or cabinetauthority RTA inset cabinets) we need to decide on all the appliances which has sent me down a research rabbit hole.

I'd love to know your experiences and recommendations for 30" slide in gas ranges and counterdepth fridges. We're willing to spend around $3000 for the range because it's the priority in the kitchen. For fridges we're planning to NOT have an indoor ice or water maker - we want long lived and basic.

Does anyone have duel fuel? Is it worth it? What about LG vs Samsung vs other brands? I keep hearing I should avoid GE because of maintenance issues.

I saw the LG duel fuel two oven range on sale at costco for $2500 (LUTD4919SN). I've also looked at samsung's dual oven gas range. Thoughts?
 

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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 08:20:27 AM »
What size fridge are you looking for? We have a small kitchen/house so put in a 24 inch wide counter depth fridge (https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/BRFB1044.html. Ive been surprised by just how usable it is. The only thing weve done differently is buy half gallons of milk rather than full gallons. And Im a deer hunter so we did end up getting a small deep freeze to hold the meat in the winter.

Also, I do t know if youre getting a new dishwasher, but we bought the cheapest whirlpool dishwasher at Home Depot and have been very happy with it. Whirlpool ranks high for reliability, the plastic tub is quiet, it looks nice, and it was $300. 10/10 would buy again!

Edited to add: we have a vintage Chambers stove. If vintage is at all your thing, Id recommend it for the stove. Gas stoves like that last forever, look good, are a dream to cook on, and are fixable when they break! Also, the griddle on the Chambers makes the best grilled cheese and pancakes! We bought ours from someone on Craigslist for $200 but ymmv. People also refurbish them, but ours has never been refurbished and runs like a champ.
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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 08:28:55 AM »
CL for almost new kitchen appliances.  Seriously. It's probably among the best deals out there, since appliances are too heavy to ship and people constantly update their kitchens.  With the exception of the fridge appliances come in just a few sizes; once you decide whether you want (3.g.) a 30, 36" or 48" you can select the cabinets around that.  FWIW I've found a 36" range to be way easier to use than the 'standard' 30", which always felt cramped anytime i had more than two pans going.  Dual-fuels have historically been very problematic - in my own design i'll have a range and separate wall ovens, which sidesteps the 'dual-fuel' issue, as well as allows baking at 2x temperatures and eliminates one choke point where something's in the oven and someone is standing at the range.

For reliability I'd check out what Consumer Reports says in their annual guide - yet another reason NOT to buy new; you have no sense which models will have trouble spots.

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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2019, 08:51:00 AM »
Consumer reports seems to bias toward new wifi enabled samsung and LG models recently despite homeowner reviews on the CR website being unfavorable. I'm not really sure I trust CR which is why I figured I'd throw it out to the forum for advice.

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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2019, 09:18:45 AM »
Consumer reports seems to bias toward new wifi enabled samsung and LG models recently despite homeowner reviews on the CR website being unfavorable. I'm not really sure I trust CR which is why I figured I'd throw it out to the forum for advice.

IMO/IME trying to turn the trust old fridge into a  "Social Media, Entertainment Hub, Drink Dispensing, Meetup location" Is the worst of ideas. All the do is add a bunch of technology that breaks.

I dont know what the manufactures want to make them extremely complicated and thus unreliable but here we are.

Buy something rather simple and technology proven. I mean for pete's sake our appliances are pretty unchanged for 70 years or so. Why reinvent the wheel to make it a really shitty wheel?!


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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2019, 09:36:57 AM »
I keep it simple.   White appliances because they are cheaper and more readily available, plus don't show all of the fingerprints as bad as black or stainless.   Not a fan of electric stoves, go with gas if possible.  I have no need for all of the water and ice dispenser stuff on outside of a refrigerator, so long as it has an ice maker, I'm good.  Get a good exhaust hood that is truly vented to the exterior, most cheap ones just recycle air through a screen and don't do much.   I can live without a microwave, it's just one more appliance to get dirty.

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2019, 10:01:18 AM »
Consumer reports seems to bias toward new wifi enabled samsung and LG models recently despite homeowner reviews on the CR website being unfavorable. I'm not really sure I trust CR which is why I figured I'd throw it out to the forum for advice.

Note exactly what I was recommending.  Go into their files and look at their reliability data for specific models that fit your criteria, which is based on user surveys. The bad ones stick out regardless of how 'wowed' the testers were when evaluating a new appliance with no user history. I agree with others that simpler is better, unless you are the sort to really want the IoT on your fridge.

FWIW Samsung refrigerators have a known defrosting issue which (thankfully) is very easy and free to fix.  But the S. Korean company has had a lot of trouble-spots as of late with many of their appliances.

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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2019, 10:33:20 AM »
I'd love to know your experiences and recommendations for 30" slide in gas ranges and counterdepth fridges. We're willing to spend around $3000 for the range because it's the priority in the kitchen. For fridges we're planning to NOT have an indoor ice or water maker - we want long lived and basic.

We bought a Fisher & Paykel counter depth fridge 2 years ago and I LOVE it. It's really well designed and fits in with our vintage stove and old house (we bought it in white.) This is the model: https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/RF170WDXX5.html

It's well lit and easy to clean. It's spacious but not such a behemoth that it overwhelms the room. It just works really well and looks nice doing it. Highly recommend!

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2019, 01:26:25 PM »
I got a Dacor gas range plus stove, it's totally awesome. No fancy lcd screens or anything, can't program the oven but I kind of prefer it this way.

Dacor dishwasher too. Awesome buy.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2019, 06:30:02 PM »
I do NOT recommend Samsung appliances. In fact, there are DIY threads on MMM on fixing your Samsung appliances because they are so poorly engineered. Major issues with my fridge and other people I know with theirs.  Had more people complain about their ranges as well (though mine has been fine). I’ve had a few other friends that have multiple rentals and flips that have had very poor luck with LG recently, but I can’t give any first hand info on that.


I’ve been having great luck with whirlpool and I’ve been putting them in higher end rentals.  Even tenants don’t break those.  So, in my opinion, whirlpool is the winner today. 




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Re: kitchen remodel - tell me about your appliances
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 06:51:56 AM »
We are down the same rabbit hole. One of the things I found out is that counterdepth refrigerators are horribly expensive. In the end, we went the much cheaper route of using a normal depth refrigerator and bumping the cabinetry out along that part of the wall to give the illusion of counterdepth.

For the stove, we are going with a cooktop and wall double ovens so I can't recommend anything there. I can recommend however for any major appliance purchase, the first place you should call is your local repairman and see what brands he can repair and which brands he repairs most often. In our area, you cannot get any parts for anything made by LG without a six month wait. We found this out the hard way a few years ago having to live without Kenmore badged/LG made refrigerator for six months.  For our cooktop, we got one from GE. It is three years old and I have broken four of the six knobs on it already but the parts to fix it were cheap and plentiful so I won't complain. Since those are the only mechanical parts and there aren't any computerized parts, I have stocked up on knobs and am happy.