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Just bought my first house!
« on: April 30, 2014, 03:14:34 PM »
Its been a little while since I've been on here. On my last posts I talked of my plans to move to California. But I decided to take advantage of a 1st time home buyer grant program here in KS and bought a small 2 story 2br house for nothing out of my pocket. Its older and *charming* and I look forward to gaining some home remodeling skills over the next year or so :) I thought I'd ask some questions to help me get started on my planning phase. I have no experience beyond wallpaper removal and some painting but my bf is handy and my brother does fencing, flooring, drywall etc. I'm fortunate to have this help, especially since my car died a month ago, forcing me to buy a new one (2009 Scion xB for under $7000 all cash thank you!) This ate up all but a grand of what I had already set aside specifically for starting some house projects, meaning its gonna be a few months before I can do anything major.

Here are some questions/concerns I have:

Stucco walls! I want a smooth and modern look. What are my options? Do I remove the stucco texture or do I cover it? And how?

Windows - Several of the windows need replaced. Is there any chance of me being able to do this on my own or is this something I'd be better off hiring a contracting for?

This is more of an opinion but what do you all think about formal dining rooms? Are they in/out of style? I'm contemplating knocking out a wall to join the dining and living room because the living room is SUPER small. I'm not sure if it is a supporting wall or not but if not I was thinking about doing away with the dining room altogether.

And finally, anyone have any tips for opening up small spaces? Whether it be remodeling tips or decorating tips? I'm very excited and I've got a lot of great ideas but I am definitely no expert and I value your opinion so throw 'em at me :)

Thank you!

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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2014, 03:33:47 PM »
Most people prefer a somewhat open floor plan so if the wall is not load bearing I say knock it out. If it is you could remove most of it and have columns for support. I saw this on HGTV.  It is great that you have your first home. I would save $ and do things as you can afford them.  It also sounds like you have family that are more skilled with some of the tasks that otherwise would cost you more to hire out.  When we bought our first home we slowly remodeled it over a period of 14 years as we could afford it. Good luck!

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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2014, 06:37:50 PM »
I'm an advocate of knocking down walls that aren't necessary for either privacy or load bearing purposes.  Open floor plans FTW! 

Is it your interior walls that are stippled?  Undoing that is a pain in the ass, but doable.  It takes an immense amount of patience to plaster over the stippling and make it smooth and level/flat.  Mr PoP did it on part of some walls in his office, since they were a mix of stippled and smooth and he liked the smooth better in there. 

With windows, before you DIY, check and see if you need a permit.  Around here you do, and I've heard of people getting caught and fined for replacing windows without a permit.  It doesn't mean you can't replace them yourself, just that you have one more step in the process. 

Good luck and have fun!  There's no need to rush into every project if you're going to be there a while. 

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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2014, 11:26:10 AM »
Smoothing out the wall texture with a plaster coating is called "skim coating" and can be done in your spare time using premixed wallboard mud from the hardware store.  You mix it, possibly thinning a little, and apply with a wide taping knife.  When dry, you can smooth it by lightly sanding.  Then prime and paint.

But, sometimes a textured wall can be a nice touch, especially if the trim and other details are clean and simple.  Widows you can totally do but if you've never done it before the learning curve will feel steep.

I'm also a fan of open plan homes.  My home's main floor has only 2 rooms, a bath and a den/tv/guest room.  the living, dining and kitchen are all open to each other.  This makes hosting parties simply a matter of moving furniture around as needed.

To open up small spaces, think about lightening up paint colors, and windows.  Home surgery to consider is wall removal like you are already thinking, and doorway enlargement.  Doors that are seldom/never closed can be removed, and doorways enlarged to 1.5-2x their former size.  Windows and skylights add natural light and potential views.

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2014, 09:57:11 AM »
Replacing windows is not hard for you and your BF if as you say he is handy.

If he can't do it then its time for a new BF...:)

The only thing you need to think about is weather proofing and if you buy opening windows making sure the frame is not stressed such that the window is free to open and close.

Most modern vynil windows come with a "nailing flange".. I.e the window is nailed to the face of the house from the outside.

You will need to know that your "rough opening" sizes are. This is most easily done by removing the trim from the inside of the window.. When you get back to the wall studs this will be the size you measure. If it is an old house with odd sized windows it is not difficult to adjust the sizes, or even move the location of the window.. But it is a lot more work.

Think about how you will weatherproof the window from the outside.. If you have ceder shingles for example (the wall is not flat.. but has steps on the outside) you cannot nail a flange to the shingles. But no problem.. simply take a skill saw, set the depth to just remove the shingles from say a 2" wide strip all around the window and the nailing flange will nail to the inner sheathing around the rough opening.

Simply fill in the gap with exterior trim (Vynil for bad weather areas, wood/ exterior particle board if the weather is not too terrible).

I like to slide in some flashing above the window (under the sheathing) and over the outside of the top flange.. means any moisture stays OUT of the house.

There are plenty of youtube videos and stuff to explain all of this.

Oh, be aware of code requirements (and general escape routes). If you want to replace an opening window with a non opening window and this is in a bedroom.. Think about how you will escape in the event of a fire. There are code (building regulations mandated by law) that govern this. Your local building department can advise you.

remember also that almost all work requires a permit that you pay for. Not many people buy permits to replace windows however.

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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 03:58:11 PM »
Thank you all for the great tips! I will definitely be taking it one project at a time. I'm not even sure if they make my size of windows anymore. If not, they will have to wait because I'm sure custom made windows are out of my league at the moment! The kitchen is UUUUGLY so that will hopefully be my first project. I plan on keeping it simple. Painting the cabinets for now instead of buying new ones, getting a discount through my brother to replace the flooring, etc. The one thing I hate about my town is that you can't usually find much on CL and there aren't any options for discounted supplies and materials. I'd like to avoid big box stores where I can to not only save money but also to add charm with repurposed items. Anyway, I'm hoping to get over this weekend and start making plans for my first project. Ill keep everyone posted. I'm sure I'll have lots of questions!

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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2014, 07:10:24 AM »
I personally like stucco. If it's in good condition, I'd leave it for now and tackle other things. Skim coating isn't hard if you're patient and meticulous, though.

I see hundreds of new house floor plans a year. Open floor plans are much more common. Houses do have formal dining rooms quite a bit, but that's in addition to a dinette off of the kitchen. It's rare to have a dining room but NOT an open living area.

Easy check on whether that wall is load bearing or not: go into basement or crawl space - does the wall run parallel (non load) or perpendicular (load bearing) to the joists below it?

As MMM noted, the easiest way to save money DIY is to buy supplies and tools only as you need them. The pace of your work limits the cash flow drain.

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2014, 01:44:26 PM »
I don't mind stucco. It just kind of bothers me that most of the walls are smooth with the exception of a few areas. Where I live there are quite a few "historic" homes with formal dining rooms and people love them. I, however, prefer an open floor plan. Thanks for the tip on checking for load bearing walls. Knocking it down will probably be my 1st or 2nd project. Kitchen renovation is the other one at the top of my list. Not sure I'll do much else as the house is in an "iffy" neighborhood and I don't want to overdo it.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2014, 05:47:13 AM »
Firstly, congrats! :)

Is it just me, or is a formal dining room a waste of space if it's used only a couple of times a year? There was one at my parents place when I was growing up, and it'd be used at most a few times a year. Eventually it became the study.

Having a bunch of rarely used 'formal' rooms such as formal dining/lounge rooms doesn't sound overly Mustachian to me. :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 03:09:27 PM »
Yes!!! I agree with you. After thinking and planning and thinking and planning some more, I think I'm going to make it into a lounge area. It will be the room that I allow myself to go a little crazy with :)

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 03:29:44 PM »
Another thing that is driving me crazy...this is an older home from the 30's, original trim with crown molding, which I'm sure would be beautiful if the previous owner hadn't paint over it. They didn't even do a good job. It's blobby and bleeds onto the walls. It's making it very difficult to plan designs and colors. Do you all think it would be better to sand it and repaint it or replace it altogether? I can't even begin to know how much that would cost me at this point. Or how time/energy would be involved with repainting it. Maybe there's another option? I never realized the trim of all things would stress me out so much!


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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 04:00:24 PM »
I stripped the trim in my first house, stained & sealed & it was so beautiful.

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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2014, 08:54:08 PM »
We just peeled some weird texture off of our walls! It was a pain! Ours wasn't stucco, and I can't even really explain what it was - they had basically put some kind of plaster on the wall, and then ran some strange wire brush through the plaster to make the texture. We thought about sanding it off or adding more plaster to even it out. We consulted with a relative who is a professional painter, and he thought that either option would work. We ended up opting to sand it off. It ended up taking a bit more time than we anticipated, but I'm excited to have that awful texture of the walls!

RE: the trim, I'd recommend refinishing rather than replacing - that stuff ends up in cost, but also from an environmental perspective it's better to reuse than to replace! :)

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 07:32:33 AM »
Thanks JustTrying! Thanks for the tips. I'm leaning toward refinishing the trim for those same reasons. I've just heard so many horror stories regarding that subject. But I'm not trying to get back down to the original wood. I mean, I would love to, but man there's a lot of trim in this house! The house itself is small but it has fairly high ceilings and lots of windows and doorways and such. Anyway, I'll try to post some before/after pics if it comes out good!

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 12:23:20 PM »
When I did my house I stripped down to the wood & it was so worth it. I did one room at a  time starting with the room that was most important to me.

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2014, 01:20:28 PM »
Cassie that's awesome. What steps did you take to strip and how long did it take you to do one room? I guess I should start watching some youtube videos and see if it's something I can tackle.

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2014, 01:27:18 PM »
It was over 30 years ago so probably better products are out now. I first tried liquid stripper which really burns if you get it on your skin & has a nasty smell. Then I found a product that you held over the wood and the coils heated up and burned the paint off. You scrape as you go with both products.  With the burner you have to be careful not to hold it too long in one spot or it burned the wood too.  There probably are much better options now.

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2014, 01:39:23 PM »
Thanks for the tip. Ill do some research. I would LOVE to be able to get it down to the original state. Wish me luck!

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2014, 02:00:29 PM »
If you have original windows from the 1930s, chances are they were built to a far superior quality than anything you might replace them with, so before you do anything hasty, please check whether it is possible to repair them.  You might need to find an old fashioned carpenter to do that rather than a modern, buy-it-from-the-store-and-fit-it type.  A bit of work on them might see them through another 80 years, during which time the PVC replacements would likely have needed replacing another three times!

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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2014, 03:50:03 PM »
Good point Worms. It would be my first choice to get them back to their natural state. I just don't want to get in over my head. It's just me and my SO, unless I can get some friends to help. But I'm not afraid of a little work ;)