Author Topic: Options to cover a Floor Outlet  (Read 6244 times)

Hvillian

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Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« on: March 28, 2017, 09:25:23 PM »
I have a floor outlet in the living room that I need to fix. (See Attached Picture).  The plastic that held brass screws has given out, and the location of the box is terrible for the room.

Since I can't go back and remove it prior to laying the carpet, I would like to just remove it and cover it with a small carpet circle.  I have read enough to know that I need to disconnect the electricity prior to doing that.  I am fairly certain that the floor outlet is wired to a nearby wall outlet and that it is its own dead end, so I think disconnecting it should be doable.  What I don't know is if it is possible to get the floor box to be flush with the carpet.  I have seen things called abandonment plates, but can't find any info on how to remove the broken floor box.

Anyone know how to remove/replace/cover this.  Any help or advice is much appreciated.

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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 06:26:23 AM »
https://www.amazon.com/Enerlites-975501-C-Weather-Resistant-Receptacle/dp/B00O19F41Q/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1490790165&sr=8-16&keywords=floor+electrical+box+plate

I'm not sure if you have a 4" or 5" box.  That link is for a 4" solution.  Go to the bottom of the page and look at "Customers who viewed this item also viewed" section if you need a different size.

Whatever you do, ensure you get one rated for the floor in order to support whatever load may be on top of it.

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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2017, 01:53:37 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  My current problem is that the gray plastic (PVC?) has the screw threads broken off, so there is nothing to attach the brass cover to.  I can't figure out how to get the grey floor box out of the floor to replace it. 

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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 02:09:13 PM »
What is your subfloor? If you first make sure you can unwire it, you could always use an angle grinder type thing to cut up the box.

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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2017, 02:32:59 PM »
What is your subfloor? If you first make sure you can unwire it, you could always use an angle grinder type thing to cut up the box.

Cement Slab.  I had considered some "brute force" methods of removing it, but thought there must be a more elegant solution.

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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2017, 03:14:37 PM »
Oh hell... if it's a cement slab and you don't want the outlet: Mix up a little cement or mortar and top it off right there in the box.  Then proceed with your "cover it with a carpet circle" idea.

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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2017, 08:45:21 PM »
Yep, this one is easy.  Once you are sure you have the wire disconnected, if the box sticks up higher than the concrete, take a grinder ( or even a hand drywall rasp, or rough file) and grind the plastic ring flush with the concrete. If you have nothing to cleanly grind it with, you can take a hammer and screwdriver and bust the sides out. Now grab a small pail of quick curing cement, often called  things like "Fast-Plug" or hydraulic cement, and a cheap margin trowel. A margin trowel is a small hand trowel that have a blade the size and shape of a credit card. Now mix up the cement and pack the box full. You can trowel a very nice clean finish over the box, but don't waste a lot of time. The stuff goes from being very workable, to firm and barely cooperating, to rock hard, over a few minutes. If you use cold water and mix it a bit stiffer than pancake batter, you will have plenty of time (10 minutes, or so) to get it done right. Good luck.


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Re: Options to cover a Floor Outlet
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2017, 08:03:31 PM »
Thank you guys (or gals) for the additional responses.  I feel comfortable about getting it out now.  The additional details about the cement are always appreciated, as mistakes with cement can be a real pain to fix.  Thanks!