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mrmoneygoatee

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DIY Carpet
« on: May 07, 2012, 07:50:40 PM »
I know many people don't like carpet much, but my wife does, and our house has raggedy carpet that is in bad need of replacement.

I like doing things myself, but my time to take on new projects is a little limited right now.

My question is this: how cost (and time) effective is it to learn to and install carpet padding and carpet vs. paying for the labor? I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I realize I would have to rent some special tools and also learn all the techniques and potentially mess some things up along the way. I have a basic idea of how it's done.

I generally feel that D'ing I Y saves a ton of money no matter what it is, and the knowledge you gain about how to do it lasts a lifetime and is invaluable, but most people I've talked to say that carpet installation labor doesn't cost that much and it's not worth it to install carpet yourself. That can't be true, right?

Any first-time carpet-installers have any advice?

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 01:08:19 AM »
Here are some good instructions.
http://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/how-to-install-carpet/index.html#step4

If you have no joins to make you don't really need any special tools. You can also get carpet CNC cut to size from some factories.

As for cost, when we re-carpeted our home about 20 to 25% of the cost was installation.

PS my father owned a carpet and curtain business, he's very practical, but it wasn't worth his effort to do his own installation.

My other tips, don't skimp on the underlay, get the thickest stuff you can find. It'll feel better and make your carpet last longer. My personal preference is also for 100% wool carpets.

If you have any other questions ask away.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 08:25:02 AM »
I used Milliken carpet tiles when I did my basement, and was very satisfied. I've gotten many compliments and exclamations of surprise when I tell people they are carpet tiles. We have been using the basement as an apartment for my son and future DIL for 2 years now, and the floor still looks great.

http://www.installitmyself.com/legato_carpet_tile_online_store_s/46.htm

The pad is attached to the tile, and the backing is tacky (like a post-it note) so you don't need adhesive to put it down or solvent to pull it back up. A straight edge and utility knife are the only tools you need to install.

If you get a stain, just pull up the square that's stained and put a new one down.

Milliken also has a new line, ISOS, that is wool carpeting in triangular squares if you are looking for natural fibers.
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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 10:21:06 AM »
Unless I was using glue on or tiles, I'd probably go with professional installation. I've seen handymen do a job with rented equipment, only to have it sag and buckle a year later. This was before youtube, so maybe you can pick up all the tricks of the trade in advance.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 10:14:54 AM »
Excellent. Thanks all for the info.

I have seen carpet squares in a basement work out nicely. Unfortunately, this project will be throughout the rest of the house. (I prefer to keep my basement unfinished so I don't have to worry about flooding and so my kids can use it as a artroom/playroom with no worry of spills/messes/art accidents.)

I think I'm just going to have to price it out. I know some places say free installation or very inexpensive installation, but I realize then they just bake the cost in elsewhere.

I recently put down laminate floors myself. And since I did it myself I bought really high quality materials online for cheaper than I would have paid for adaquete materials elsehwere. I assume carpet is the same. And yes, I hope to get a really high quality pad.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 10:58:36 AM »
Sorry, I missed this question or would have responded earlier. Carpet laying is a skill and a good installer can save you from expensive mistakes. One work-around is to purchase materials only and hire your own installer. You will be assuming the risk if something goes amiss, but significant money can be saved. My suggestion is to avoid the big boxes. Find a local dealer, explain your situation, tell him you are flexible and see what can be worked out. Believe me, he or she wants your business and cares a lot more than the underpaid, overworked, minimally trained box store employee.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 10:23:41 AM »
Well, as long as the thread is bumped...

We laid the carpet in our old house, and I think your assessment is a good one. It is a more difficult DIY task than laminate, and you will need to rent special equipment. But I do think it is a good task to learn to DIY. If you think it is a skill that you will use again in the future, I say go for it.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 07:49:24 AM »
I can imagine that making an own carpet gets more expensive than buying one, but I guess that it makes fun to make an individual one and it is possible that it lasts longer! And then it's definitely worth all the money!

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 05:52:40 AM »
I'm a builder, but not the typical "Checkbook and cell phone" builder. I do a lot of my own work, including all hard surface flooring, tile, wood, laminate, etc....  that said, I see no logical reason for me to do my own carpet laying.  There are many things needed to do a long lasting, quality install including experience, skill, a well trained helper, specialized tools and installation materials, and a desire to bust your ass on your hands and knees.  typically it takes my installers about ten hours to do three bedrooms, all the closets and hallways on my new homes. The carpet store pays  $3-400 for this long day, and the job looks great and wears well. It would take me 3X as long, and several trips to the carpet supplier and rental yard. The time/$ math here simply doesn't make sense.  Whatever you do, don't get hosed by ending up at the big box store, or a carpet chain with a multi zillion dollar ad budget, and the "Free installation" game.  Quality installers work for themselves, or for quality dealers.  My buddy has owned two sucessful stores for 20+ years now. He. and his sales folks, will tell you that not a week goes by without a call from a big box customer with a totally F'd up job, willing to pay anything to get it repaired. The problem is that it usually involves a total restretch, with the proper power stretching equipment. Often this just won't work, as the job is simply too screwed up to repair.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 11:54:31 AM »
Well, as long as the thread is bumped...
I'm a forum newb, AJ, what does this term "bumped" mean?

To Padded Hat - Awesome response! If there was a "like" button, I'd be pounding on it. Anyone who tries to install their own carpet (not DIY tiles) after reading this will end up with the job they deserve.

There are so many variables, and carpet lasts for such a long time that it's just not worth scrimping on the installation. Don't spend more than you have to, but don't be penny wise and pound foolish. BTW, speaking of pounds, ounce weight (provided so thoughtfully by the big box stores to obscure their lack of educated salespeople) is a fairly meaningless number. Fiber type, construction and quality are more important. Type of pad can also be key. And none of that matters much if you have a crappy installation.

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Re: DIY Carpet
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 06:19:05 PM »
Well, as long as the thread is bumped...
I'm a forum newb, AJ, what does this term "bumped" mean?

When someone replies to a thread, it gets "bumped" to the top of the forum (which lists topic by most recent reply).

When no one replies to a topic for awhile it gets buried down under a lot of posts, then when someone replies to an old thread, it is bumped back up to the top.
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