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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #200 on: November 27, 2014, 05:18:40 PM »
INTJ

Introvert(100%)  iNtuitive(62%)  Thinking(12%)  Judging(67%)

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« Reply #201 on: November 30, 2014, 08:50:33 PM »
I'm yet another female INTJ, albeit a fine arts/humanities type.

My I, N, and T preferences are all very strong, but my J/P preference is extremely weak, and I've always had to answer a tiebreaker question to get one or the other result. The description of INTJ fits me much better than INTP, however.

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« Reply #202 on: December 10, 2014, 02:16:56 PM »
I got another INTJ female here, good for engineering and sciences.

However, I am marginal on the "I" and the "N", and in fact, most times I take the MB test I come up "ESTJ", but marginal on the "ES".

I think part of it is changes in my career - I used to be a hard-charging manager of many. But changes in the landscape of late have seen me be reorganized 5 times to where now I manage nobody (and I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be doing).

So I have fallen back to working on things that I "know" and am comfortable with - and have been enjoying more solitary time (walks and such).  I think that shows in my answers.

"INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake."

I don't really keep trying to improve things - when it's "good enough" I move on.  But if it's NOT good enough, I work on it!

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #203 on: December 11, 2014, 06:03:29 AM »
Just took two of them to see if the results were different.  They are, kind of.

I (100) N (50) T (88) J (56)
I (100) N (78) T (57) P (53)

So it's probably one of those.  Definitely one that starts with an I.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #204 on: December 12, 2014, 11:21:52 PM »
ENTJ male here.

The forums certainly appear to be full of statistical outliers. Very curious...

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« Reply #205 on: December 13, 2014, 12:54:38 PM »
INTJ!  Woot!
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« Reply #206 on: December 16, 2014, 09:24:24 AM »
ISFP
Introverted 57%
Observant 18%
Feeling 28%
Prospecting 21%

Interesting result, as an IT Software Developer I don't really see myself as an artist.  I went in expecting INTJ as it seems everyone else is here.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #207 on: December 17, 2014, 11:57:18 AM »
Last time I took it I was borderline INTJ-INTP.  They had me re-take it and then I tipped slightly into the INTP box.  Given the amount of salt with which these things should be taken, both categories seem to be descriptive enough.


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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #208 on: December 22, 2014, 08:06:57 PM »
INTP for this guy, and relatively solid based on taking one back in school for a class, then just a few months ago for a workshop at work. 

Not sure what that says about me.  Most people think I'm judging them when I ask "why?" questions alot, my friends all know better thankfully :). 

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #209 on: December 22, 2014, 08:22:26 PM »
INTJ male, and my gf is an INTJ female. They're supposed to be rare, but not around here.
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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #210 on: January 04, 2015, 06:29:14 PM »
I'm ENTP or ENFP depending on the test.
Husband is one of those reliable, highly agreeable ones. Introverted too. It's a lot of fun in our house.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #211 on: January 10, 2015, 01:00:46 AM »
Retook the test because of a comment on MMM

INTJ
Introvert(89%)  iNtuitive(12%)  Thinking(1%)  Judging(67%)
You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (89%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have distinct preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)

Apparently I have found our super secret lair.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #212 on: January 10, 2015, 05:14:35 AM »
Female, ENFP (but almost INFP).

Quite common I guess?

I don't think any personality type is that rare and only shows the extremes in that personality type to be rare.



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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #213 on: January 10, 2015, 07:53:19 AM »
Retook the test because of a comment on MMM

INTJ
Introvert(89%)  iNtuitive(12%)  Thinking(1%)  Judging(67%)
You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (89%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have distinct preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)

Apparently I have found our super secret lair.

Are you me?!   Identical percentages :)

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #214 on: January 10, 2015, 04:35:37 PM »
Retook the test because of a comment on MMM

INTJ
Introvert(89%)  iNtuitive(12%)  Thinking(1%)  Judging(67%)
You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (89%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have distinct preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)

Apparently I have found our super secret lair.

Are you me?!   Identical percentages :)

O.O So which one of us is the evil twin?

So do any other INTJs feel like they think in computer code? I remember taking Intro to Programming and just breezing through everything because I apparently think in Python. I'm taking web development on Treehouse right now to possibly do a career move/side hustle.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #215 on: January 10, 2015, 05:33:59 PM »
Retook the test because of a comment on MMM

INTJ
Introvert(89%)  iNtuitive(12%)  Thinking(1%)  Judging(67%)
You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (89%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have distinct preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)

Apparently I have found our super secret lair.

Are you me?!   Identical percentages :)

O.O So which one of us is the evil twin?

So do any other INTJs feel like they think in computer code? I remember taking Intro to Programming and just breezing through everything because I apparently think in Python. I'm taking web development on Treehouse right now to possibly do a career move/side hustle.

When you draw, does it turn out very mechanical?

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #216 on: January 10, 2015, 07:38:33 PM »
I have tested INTJ as well as INTP. I only took the free online tests FWIW. My SO, who is ENTJ, and studied Social Psychology says that makes sense because either way I am a controlling ass! I really do love her honesty.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #217 on: January 11, 2015, 07:57:46 AM »
Female INTJ.   Thinking that my preference for INTJ is also connected to my preference for MMM lifestyle.

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« Reply #218 on: January 11, 2015, 08:35:21 AM »
INTJ. Just took the test for the first time. Have no idea what it means.

You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (56%)
You have strong preference of Intuition over Sensing (88%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have strong preference of Judging over Perceiving (78%)

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« Reply #219 on: January 14, 2015, 09:24:03 PM »
When you draw, does it turn out very mechanical?

No, but I usually go through a ton of sheets of paper due to rampant perfectionism.

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« Reply #220 on: January 15, 2015, 03:16:17 AM »
So do any other INTJs feel like they think in computer code? I remember taking Intro to Programming and just breezing through everything because I apparently think in Python. I'm taking web development on Treehouse right now to possibly do a career move/side hustle.

Nope. I'm an Aerospace Engineer and undertook the obligatory programming subjects at Uni, but they weren't a natural fit for me. I;m on the cusp of INFJ though, so find that I'm a lot more about  'big picture' thinking than details. I hate details, which is why I sucked at coding.
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« Reply #221 on: January 15, 2015, 04:59:47 AM »
I (INT/FJ) don't think in computer code either, but I thought that was because I'm not an engineer :P
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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #222 on: January 30, 2015, 08:57:35 AM »
Strong ENFP -- very N, very F, very (very) P.

Though I think the ENFP type isn't the most obvious fit, I think I can point out a couple facets of the type that, for me, seem to contribute to my interest in FI:
  • I mentioned I'm a very strong P -- I like to have all the possibilities at the same time. I need a great deal of freedom -- FI is all about freedom, possibilities, options.
  • ENFPs are creative types -- the FI path (pre and post) provides a lot of opportunities for innovation.

I'll also say that I'm a magnet for INTJs -- i.e. the software engineer types that seem to make up a large proportion of MMM's readership. I'm even married to an INTJ and managed to get him on board for FI by showing him MMM's blog -- I think he needed to hear it in his native tongue ...

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #223 on: February 01, 2015, 05:08:03 AM »
Strong ENFP -- very N, very F, very (very) P.

Though I think the ENFP type isn't the most obvious fit, I think I can point out a couple facets of the type that, for me, seem to contribute to my interest in FI:
  • I mentioned I'm a very strong P -- I like to have all the possibilities at the same time. I need a great deal of freedom -- FI is all about freedom, possibilities, options.
  • ENFPs are creative types -- the FI path (pre and post) provides a lot of opportunities for innovation.

I'll also say that I'm a magnet for INTJs -- i.e. the software engineer types that seem to make up a large proportion of MMM's readership. I'm even married to an INTJ and managed to get him on board for FI by showing him MMM's blog -- I think he needed to hear it in his native tongue ...


Yep, INFP here, and I think you nailed it.  It's not about the wealth, ultimately, it's about FREEDOM.   Plus I've been a SAHM for 6 years, it's not as fun without my husband here to share the freedom with me.  My hubby is an INTJ.  ;-)


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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #224 on: February 04, 2015, 10:19:49 AM »
They gave the test to everyone in my department.  I initially tested pretty much on the INTJ-INTP border, so I was re-tested and tipped slightly over into INTP.

Interesting to see the number here of groups that supposedly aren't prevalent as a whole.




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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #225 on: February 04, 2015, 01:05:15 PM »
Can we add a poll to this thread?

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« Reply #226 on: February 06, 2015, 07:34:36 AM »
Can we add a poll to this thread?

I was just thinking that!

I'm very strongly INFP. I approach FI very differently from the main writers out there, Jacob and MMM. It's about freedom and upholding personal values rather than finding efficiencies for me. I start with the inner personal goals and then have to work backwards to figure out how to implement them. So the efficiencies are necessary for the freedom I want, but that's not a natural tendency for me -- budgeting and watching expenses. Getting better at it, though.

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« Reply #227 on: February 08, 2015, 06:59:13 PM »
INFJ.
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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #228 on: February 08, 2015, 07:11:50 PM »
INFJ - sometimes INTJ - always N

INTJ, I was borderline E on the most comprehensive MB test I took when I was late 20s and working.  I think the descriptions are pretty accurate for me and frankly many early retirees.

INTJ is by far the most common MB personality on FIRE forums.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #229 on: February 12, 2015, 08:52:29 AM »
ENTJ male here. Seems like I was born to rule over you peasants! Don't worry though,


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« Reply #230 on: February 12, 2015, 03:55:32 PM »
ENTJ male here. Seems like I was born to rule over you peasants! Don't worry though,



No worries, the INTJ's humbly submit to their ENTJ overlords. While secretly plotting their demise.

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« Reply #231 on: February 13, 2015, 08:45:53 AM »
INTJ - optimize, question, build systems, break systems and rebuild better ones. Introvert so I generate my energy and self-identify without need for others.

It's an ideal personality type for ER stuff.

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« Reply #232 on: February 20, 2015, 02:06:22 PM »
Apparently INTJ is fairly optimal for earnings too, though the ENTJs beat all:



At least according to yahoo finance http://finance.yahoo.com/news/personality-types-most-least-amount-140826566.html
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« Reply #233 on: February 20, 2015, 08:02:33 PM »
Aha!

I should have looked at this before I married my husband.   This explains a lot.   Hmmm,  maybe my artistic daughter just needs to like male ENTJ's to be all set?
(jk,   she is getting tired of my "innovative" constant prompts, though, about how she has to plan to be self sufficient if she wants to be a starving artist!)

Thanks for the Link, I had not seen this yet.  It's a great hoot.
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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #234 on: February 20, 2015, 11:54:31 PM »
 ENFP
Extravert(1%)  iNtuitive(38%)  Feeling(25%)  Perceiving(11%)

I think my Myers-Briggs is entirely dependent upon what I've been doing most recently. I'll swing around all those categories with relative ease.

As an adult, I've always thought of myself as an extroverted introvert. I'm happy to put on the silly suit and dance around to get people's attention...but only if it is in service to something greater than myself - and then I need to go chill and read a book and have some nice quiet time.

But seriously, real people and their real stories are ever so much more interesting than TV.

And everything I do I judge and optimize. So what is up with that Perceiving score? Maybe because I live with adolescents and am working really hard to accept life as it presents itself and not how I wish it would be? ;-)

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« Reply #235 on: February 21, 2015, 12:05:13 PM »
Humor me if you will, but I find "N" is the hardest thing to test for**, given how it relates to nonlinear connect the dots function it is. Therefore, I'm willing to bet that about 50% of the people who test "N" actually turn out to be "S". So far my hypothesis has proved true nearly 100% of the times, so I tend to believe it to be true until proven otherwise. :)


** Based, for instance, on this test, where there are may be three questions that test for "N" vs "S":

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

Okay, people, the online tests try to come close, but they are not rigorously vetted / tested for test - retest and internal consistency like the official Myers Briggs Forms.   It is very difficult hard to write questions that test / retest across a wide population.

If you want to critically discount MBTI, great.  We can all discuss that, but realize that anyone can put anything on the internet. 

Regarding the article that someone posted, I was fine with the opinion (disagree with its viewpoint though, as 16 personality group types offers a huge amount of variation).  But the claim that 50% test / retest changes is misleading....

According to the MBTI Manual , third ed., 1990 Isabel Meyers et al.   (I have an older copy), the Test - Retest across 4 weeks is close to 90% and up to 97% for each individual letter (Form M) and n=424.  Test - Retest comparing Form G for under and over 9 months, and a population of n=1698 has each letter of retest at 59% (T-F) to 84% (E-I).  Form M has higher reliability, but both are much higher than chance.  Other controlled tests shows that mood did not significantly affect test-rest.

 Over a 50 year time, starting in high school, test respondent (n=39) had 54% remain within one letter of the original.  (Form G and restested on Form M).  Given that MBTI theory allows for people maturing and the early test forms were not intended for people under the age of 18, this is very good for psychometrics results.  (It is a fuzzy soft science, after all). 

Organisms are not hard science and test statically like physics.  Heck, even my hand measurement will change over 6 months, so why should we expect psychometrics to not have variation?  As long as the correlations are strikingly high, across a large sample, then I am good with the statistics that support it.

So,  the MBTI Test- retest reliability is quite high, not perfect, but much much higher than chance.   T-F is the most likely scale to change.  The recent question form "M" is better than the original form "G".   

Oh, and college students show much higher test - retest correlations than high school students, or than lower achieving students, and ethnicity did not have a factor.  So if you took the official Form G or Form M, and are a college grad, your retest consistency is likely very high.

The reason I like MBTI is that it allows for a lot of complexity across populations, has a huge sample base, and has a deep depth of research (statistical) to support it.   All psychometrics at best self selected correlations, not cause and effect, but as a tool for thinking about life and what you want out of it, and why you want / do / say different things than others, it is great!

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« Reply #236 on: February 26, 2015, 09:44:43 AM »
ENTJ, apparently we only make up 2-3% of the population. These boards are heavily INTJ, I'm not that different than most of you, just a lil more extroverted =D
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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #237 on: February 26, 2015, 10:52:17 AM »
INTJ- looks like I'm in the right place!

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« Reply #238 on: February 26, 2015, 11:17:36 AM »
INTP

Introvert(78%)  iNtuitive(50%)  Thinking(62%)  Perceiving(11%)
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« Reply #239 on: March 04, 2015, 11:39:18 PM »
I have always rated as an INTJ.  I have taken the test a few times over my life and just for giggles, I took the Keirsey test which is (based off of my understanding) is a slightly more detailed version.  That also came back INTJ: Mastermind. 

Link:
http://www.keirsey.com/4temps/mastermind.asp
It is nice to see many similar mindsets.

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« Reply #240 on: March 05, 2015, 12:11:26 AM »
I use to think I was a special unique snowflake, nope, turns out my quirks are because I am textbook INFJ

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« Reply #241 on: March 05, 2015, 01:47:59 PM »
I use to think I was a special unique snowflake, nope, turns out my quirks are because I am textbook INFJ

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INFJs tend to see helping others as their purpose in life, but while people with this personality type can be found engaging rescue efforts and doing charity work, their real passion is to get to the heart of the issue so that people need not be rescued at all.

There are worse things to be... ;)

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« Reply #242 on: March 10, 2015, 08:49:09 AM »
ISTJ

Introverted (64%)
Observant (29%)
Thinking (5%)
Judging (15%)

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« Reply #243 on: March 10, 2015, 09:45:00 AM »
I use to think I was a special unique snowflake, nope, turns out my quirks are because I am textbook INFJ

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INFJs tend to see helping others as their purpose in life, but while people with this personality type can be found engaging rescue efforts and doing charity work, their real passion is to get to the heart of the issue so that people need not be rescued at all.

There are worse things to be... ;)

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« Reply #244 on: March 17, 2015, 01:26:40 PM »
Female ISTJ. The introversion/sensing parts show only a slight preference, but the thinking/judging parts are strongly expressed.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #245 on: March 19, 2015, 11:54:36 AM »
ENFP here. So many IxxJ here, explains why so many posters seem borderline-autistic, arrogant and judgmental.

Seems like with the sweeping judgements you just made, you don't fully understand the nuances of the Myers-Brigg classifications.  Or, you are interacting with the people/threads on this forum in a very superficial way.

Spend some time getting to know the regulars around here (the journal section is a great place to start) or perhaps this is not the right community for you.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #246 on: March 19, 2015, 12:16:46 PM »
ENFP here. So many IxxJ here, explains why so many posters seem borderline-autistic, arrogant and judgmental.

They're the judgmental ones?



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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #247 on: March 19, 2015, 04:10:50 PM »
ISTP (at least this time).

Heavily I and P while S/N and T/F are borderline and my results vary from test to test.

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #248 on: March 22, 2015, 07:01:27 PM »
ENTP or INTP  for me

NTP are pretty strong; I and E hover around the middle.

Hey, same personality!

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Re: The Principle of Constant Optimization: What's Your Myers-Briggs?
« Reply #249 on: March 22, 2015, 09:22:02 PM »
ENTP or INTP  for me

NTP are pretty strong; I and E hover around the middle.

Hey, same personality!

*high five*

I feel left out of this ENTP/INTP high five fest. Virtual high five to you as well.