edit: clarified child schooling; added account annual contributions
Hello everyone! I discovered the FIRE communities about four years ago and have been lurking MMM for those four years making financial adjustments along the way. This community has been incredible and invaluable and I wish, wish, wish I'd stumbled across it or paid any real mind to finances earlier. Now it’s time for a FIRE reality check. How far away are we?
I’m in IT and she’s in Medicine. We have continued earning potential, but I’ve been looking for an out for years. She may or may not want to continue in a post-COVID hospital world.
I’ve been tracking every single dollar earned and spent since 2016 using YNAB (old, retired desktop install version) and have identified a crap-ton of fat to trim. We’ve cut back little-by-little over the past few years though we’re admittedly still very much spendypants and facepunchworthy particularly with Food and Travel. I can give a detailed breakdown of monthly expenses if it’ll help, but for brevity we’re looking at a FatFIRE spend of about $100,000 per year. I’m actually calculating somewhat less, but rounding up for ease of math and buffering.
45yo/44yo spouse, MFJ
1 child (14yo) who is High Functioning Autistic
MCOL city in SE USA
Household Income (Gross)
• Him: $140,000
• Her: $200,000
Investments
AA: 72% stocks / 22% bonds / 6% cash
• Roth IRAs: $314,000 ($12,000 annual contributions via backdoor)
• 401k/403b: $1,468,000 ($39,000+company match $29,000= $68,000 annual contributions)
• Taxable: $267,000 ($117,000 in contributions annually at present)
• Cash: $100,000
Other Holdings
• 529: $78,000 ($4,000 annual contributions)
• HSA: $55,000 ($7,100 annual contributions)
• Taxable: $32,100 (earmarked for child if we’re otherwise good to go)
• Home Valuation: $475,000 (Paid in full/no mortgage)
Liabilities
• Auto Loan: -$6,893 @ 0% interest (min. monthly payments will have this zeroed 10/21)
• HVAC Loan: -$5,615 @ 0% interest (min. monthly payments will have this zeroed 4/22)
• Tuition: -$25,000 Each Year (HFA child’s private school; three more years until he graduates HS)
FatFIRE of $100,000 assumptions:
• $1,000 monthly health insurance premiums (wild guess)
• $7,000 annual income tax (wild guess solely based on $100k MFJ & standard deduction and not on optimized withdrawal strategies or capital gains rates)
• $7,500 annual property tax + HOA dues (current home; could relocate I suppose)
• $12,000 home/auto sinking fund for repairs, replacement (wild guess)
• No private grade school tuition
• No Work Expenses (licensing, etc)
• Slight reduction in grocery bill and restaurants (assuming child is independent)
• The rest of the monies go to 2020 levels of spending for any given category
Biggest Concerns/Unknowns
1) HFA child post-grade school – College? Trade school? Either can be at least partially covered with the 529. It seems there is a good chance he will be able to work and live on his own, but I have NO idea of his earning potential or ability to manage on his own without financial supervision.. I mean he’s still only 14 and there is a lot of growing up to do. Still, our “empty nest” concerns probably differ wildly from those with neurotypical children. This is a hugely impactful unknown.
2) Healthcare – Duh. Just like everyone else looking at RE. Option on the table, as unsavory as it is: work until 55 (either of us) at which point we become eligible for medical bridge coverage on the employer plan until Medicare becomes available. Addendum: she is perfectly healthy (currently) whereas I have UC and an auto-immune issue requiring monthly medication retailing at $1,200 for 120 days (insurance has cut that way, way down, but don’t know what to expect with ACA.
3) Withdrawal Strategies – Buffer up Taxable to allow for a decade+ of living expense withdrawals prior to tapping the traditional retirement funds? Mess around with SEPPs or dip into Roth contributions (not the gains) prior to 59 ½? Work until 55 ½ *shudder* to make 401k/403b withdrawals uncomplicated?
So what kind of time frame are we looking at for realistically being able to call it quits? I reckon we’re both working at least until he’s 18 yo so four years if for no other reason than so we can strike private primary school tuition from the expense list. I’ve messed around a lot with FireCalc and about five other calculators and according to those four years left is doable. I’d like some “real people” perspective though. I know calculators are garbage-in/garbage-out and only deal in historical periods to project the future.
Thank you all!