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mamamustache

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First time refinancing mortgage
« on: November 17, 2020, 04:29:22 PM »
Hello Mustachinans! I need some help thinking through a first time mortgage refinance. We have quotes from Company A and B. We'd prefer to stay with A because it's our current lender and we think it might be less of a headache paperwork-wise.

Can you help me think through what sort of offer from A would make it worthwhile for us to stay?

Current mortgage is fixed 30 year at 3.25%, with a monthly P+I of $1615.70. We have $267K left on the principal and 22 years left on the loan.

Company A (current lender) offers:
*15 yr fixed refinance loan with an interest rate of 2.125%. New P+I = $1731.20, with closing costs TBD.
*Keep current period (22 years left) and lower rate to 2.625%. Closing costs = $0. New P+I = $1330.60.

Company B offers:
*15 year fixed at 2%. Closing costs are ~$7,940 (and about ~$2000 of this are prepaid insurance/taxes). New P+I = $1718.17

As I mentioned, we'd like to give Company A some counter-offers.

Thanks in advance!
« Last Edit: November 17, 2020, 07:27:19 PM by mamamustache »

meandmyfamily

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 11:49:52 AM »
You would probably get more feedback in the Real Estate part of the forum.  I would go with the company with the cheapest fees and lowest interest rate.  Ask for estimate up front and compare.  Don't stay with current company unless they give you the best deal.  They have no loyalty to you and might sell you to another company the next month.  Are you planning to stay in this house for at least 5 years?  I would factor that into the decision making as well.

SwordGuy

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 07:21:41 PM »
Google Karl's Mortgage Calculator and try out both mortgages in it.

catorbe

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2020, 01:28:21 PM »
So my first impression is that Company B's closing costs don't sound competitive at all. It doesn't take that much money to refinance unless you're paying an upfront Mortgage Insurance Premium (if you're LTV is >80%) or if you're buying points, which on a 15 at that rate I don't think you are.

Company A's 15 year offer is just fine, but obviously depends on closing costs.

Frankly by far the best offer is the refi, same amort at 2.625% with NO closing costs. This saves you almost 300 a month which you can now use to invest, and in like 10 years you'll probably have enough of that money which can just go ahead and pay off whatevers left of the loan thus beating if not tying the 15 year. Bottom line is the lower cash outflow is the kicker because it gives you more flexibility, more ability to have your money work for you, and gives you the most protection if things go wrong. all for historically low rates. If you can even get this rate and extend the term back to 30 that's an option which allows an enhancement to all the point's i've just made.
The only thing is, it's up to you to invest the difference. If you don't, it's for naught.

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2020, 02:39:39 PM »
*Keep current period (22 years left) and lower rate to 2.625%. Closing costs = $0. New P+I = $1330.60.

I would recommend moving forward with existing term and 2.625%, thats a good deal. You can always change if you get better rate elsewhere in future.  I would pass company B offer.

mamamustache

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 06:12:20 PM »
Thank you achvfi, catorbe, SwordGuy, and meandmyfamily! We decided to stick with our current company and got an even better offer from them. Really appreciate you all taking a look.

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 11:21:23 AM »
Thank you achvfi, catorbe, SwordGuy, and meandmyfamily! We decided to stick with our current company and got an even better offer from them. Really appreciate you all taking a look.

Good stuff!

meandmyfamily

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Re: First time refinancing mortgage
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 12:21:08 PM »
That is awesome news!

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!