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Wealthsimple
« on: April 15, 2024, 09:20:46 AM »
I have an account with them already with about 150k in it. Our kids' RESP, some RRSPs, and TFSAs all there.

I am going to have around 500k to invest and was thinking about just putting it all in there with them and using their 'wealth management' services to help me best allocate it.

Does anyone have experience with them? Are they any good? I like that their fees are only .2-.4%, which is a lot less than the 1% of say, Canaccord.

Just looking for reviews on them. Thanks!

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2024, 12:11:50 PM »
I've seen what they offer, and you'd have better returns just by ignoring the managed portion and throwing it all in VGRO. (80/20 stock bond etf)

I like them. Easy to use and the fees can't be beat if you self-manage.

Don't forget it's .2-.4% + the fees of whatever they place you in.

I switched in Feb, it was extremely quick, and since then, have had a better day to day than with Questrade, and reasonably the same sort of interactions with customer support. Strangely their phone support is better than the live chat.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2024, 08:07:51 AM »
I've seen what they offer, and you'd have better returns just by ignoring the managed portion and throwing it all in VGRO. (80/20 stock bond etf)

I like them. Easy to use and the fees can't be beat if you self-manage.

Don't forget it's .2-.4% + the fees of whatever they place you in.

I switched in Feb, it was extremely quick, and since then, have had a better day to day than with Questrade, and reasonably the same sort of interactions with customer support. Strangely their phone support is better than the live chat.

Oh I see what you mean, don’t use a “managed fund” but just use wealthsimple as the platform to buy my own ETf. That’s a good idea. No reason to give them any more money

Can I ask- how are ETFs taxed? Do you only pay taxes when you withdraw? Is it based on the gains even if you just let it sit there?

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2024, 09:29:14 AM »
some amount of dividends (taxed annually) for most ETFs, unless you pick Swap-Based Etfs, such as Horizon series ETF (the dividends are re-invested internally, so there are only capital gains)

The rest is all capital gains, which are taxed when you sell.

And dividend-reinvestment is different from Horizon's, since you receive the dividends, then reinvest (all done automatically), in the swap-based, you never receive dividends.


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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2024, 12:54:43 PM »
some amount of dividends (taxed annually) for most ETFs, unless you pick Swap-Based Etfs, such as Horizon series ETF (the dividends are re-invested internally, so there are only capital gains)

The rest is all capital gains, which are taxed when you sell.

And dividend-reinvestment is different from Horizon's, since you receive the dividends, then reinvest (all done automatically), in the swap-based, you never receive dividends.

Thank you! I’ve never heard of the horizon ETF I will do some research.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2024, 12:56:19 PM »
Fyi they have no self-managed RESP yet, so that'll have to stay there.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2024, 09:55:43 AM »
My RESP with them is one of their managed things and it sucks. Like not worse than other managed funds, but still a lot. And grants make up for a lot.

Most of the rest I have in VGRO with them and a few random I feel like buying one of these stocks.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2024, 10:04:15 AM »
My RESP with them is one of their managed things and it sucks. Like not worse than other managed funds, but still a lot. And grants make up for a lot.

Most of the rest I have in VGRO with them and a few random I feel like buying one of these stocks.

For managed, you should have them place you in at least 80 % agressive

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2024, 10:11:34 AM »
I have to stop playing online and parent, but yes, I’m in 65/35 and I need to play with the quiz till it lets me get the right balance.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2024, 12:49:21 PM »
Has anybody tried the private equity or private credit investments Wealthsimple offers? They advertise very strong returns but I don't know how this would fit in to a general index investing strategy.

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2024, 01:16:57 PM »
Has anybody tried the private equity or private credit investments Wealthsimple offers? They advertise very strong returns but I don't know how this would fit in to a general index investing strategy.

Every single part of ''private equity'' and ''private credit investments'' is exceptionally different from one or the other.

I'd be exceptionally leery of going into that, I'd expect details explanations and want to actually understand the ideas behind investing...

I personally would stay away... Note that they are currently using LGT wealth management... that could change at any point... it's a lot of risk for ''these people are better than the stock market''


-That said, I haven't.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2024, 01:57:37 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with the Wealthsimple cash card for travelling in Europe?  I'm trying to assess the value/savings as compared with the TD First Class Infinite Travel Rewards.  As I understand it, the WS cash card is like a debit Mastercard - what I buy comes directly and immediately out of my cash account.  They say that the exchange rate is lower but I'm only seeing about a 0.01 cent difference?  Plus they pay 1% cashback on purchases but not withdrawals, but maybe it's better just to use it as a debit card at foreign ATMs?  In general, most of what we currently put on the TD credit card is food, which gets 4 points to the dollar.

Anyway, until I can do some serious number-crunching, I'm wondering if anyone else has done a comparison, or can recommend anything better than the TD card.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2024, 09:15:52 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with the Wealthsimple cash card for travelling in Europe?  I'm trying to assess the value/savings as compared with the TD First Class Infinite Travel Rewards.  As I understand it, the WS cash card is like a debit Mastercard - what I buy comes directly and immediately out of my cash account.  They say that the exchange rate is lower but I'm only seeing about a 0.01 cent difference?  Plus they pay 1% cashback on purchases but not withdrawals, but maybe it's better just to use it as a debit card at foreign ATMs?  In general, most of what we currently put on the TD credit card is food, which gets 4 points to the dollar.

Anyway, until I can do some serious number-crunching, I'm wondering if anyone else has done a comparison, or can recommend anything better than the TD card.

No experience with using their cash card- but I opened a scotiabank visa infinite card for travel because it charges 0 foreign transaction fees- and I’m pretty sure it’s the only Canadian credit card that does.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2024, 10:44:13 AM »
Has anybody tried the private equity or private credit investments Wealthsimple offers? They advertise very strong returns but I don't know how this would fit in to a general index investing strategy.
I'd be exceptionally leery of going into that, I'd expect details explanations and want to actually understand the ideas behind investing...

Their website claims 4.75% higher return than the stock market over the last 20 years and 18% annualized returns. Some pretty bold claims to be making.
https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-ca/private-equity

I've read so much about how the worlds wealthiest people tend to be able to expand their capital at a faster rate than us normies, so it seems like a ticket into that world.

I have to admit I was intrigued and wondering if it wouldnt be a bad place for a portion of my portfolio.

Would love to see someone who has knowledge and experience in this world do a deep dive. They do have a long FAQ section on the website about this This podcast apparently goes into it a bit: https://thecanadianinvestorpodcast.com/podcast/the-canadian-investor/episode/is-private-equity-really-outperforming-index-funds


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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2024, 02:02:28 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with the Wealthsimple cash card for travelling in Europe?  I'm trying to assess the value/savings as compared with the TD First Class Infinite Travel Rewards.  As I understand it, the WS cash card is like a debit Mastercard - what I buy comes directly and immediately out of my cash account.  They say that the exchange rate is lower but I'm only seeing about a 0.01 cent difference?  Plus they pay 1% cashback on purchases but not withdrawals, but maybe it's better just to use it as a debit card at foreign ATMs?  In general, most of what we currently put on the TD credit card is food, which gets 4 points to the dollar.

Anyway, until I can do some serious number-crunching, I'm wondering if anyone else has done a comparison, or can recommend anything better than the TD card.

No experience with using their cash card- but I opened a scotiabank visa infinite card for travel because it charges 0 foreign transaction fees- and I’m pretty sure it’s the only Canadian credit card that does.

Thanks.  I don't bank with Scotia and try to keep my finances consolidated within a few banks/operators but will look into it.  I looked at the exchange rate spread on my Visa Infinite on March 15 from last year and see that I got charged 0.04 over mid-market rates, which looks to be about 0.01 higher than the Wealthsimple cash card and I also didn't see any fees over and above that, plus I also get 4 points to the dollar.  I find it hard to compare.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2024, 03:05:21 AM »
Has anybody tried the private equity or private credit investments Wealthsimple offers? They advertise very strong returns but I don't know how this would fit in to a general index investing strategy.
I'd be exceptionally leery of going into that, I'd expect details explanations and want to actually understand the ideas behind investing...

Their website claims 4.75% higher return than the stock market over the last 20 years and 18% annualized returns. Some pretty bold claims to be making.
https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-ca/private-equity

I've read so much about how the worlds wealthiest people tend to be able to expand their capital at a faster rate than us normies, so it seems like a ticket into that world.

I have to admit I was intrigued and wondering if it wouldnt be a bad place for a portion of my portfolio.

Would love to see someone who has knowledge and experience in this world do a deep dive. They do have a long FAQ section on the website about this This podcast apparently goes into it a bit: https://thecanadianinvestorpodcast.com/podcast/the-canadian-investor/episode/is-private-equity-really-outperforming-index-funds

Apologies for being a non-Canadian investor commenting here, but I think investors in private equity and private credit are rather rare.  I'm assuming 99.9% of posters don't invest in either of those categories, so maybe my meager 2-3 years of experience is helpful.

My private credit investment has been generating the income I expected, but it also includes an "equity kicker" that should boost returns at the end of the investment period.  I know I'm being paid as I expected, but I won't know the total return until it ends.

Private equity can include many subcategories, like venture capital or distressed private equity.  Venture capital has a very long time frame, and the return comes almost entirely from a few outperformers.  It also illustrates a common feature of hedge funds and private equity - there's no market for those companies, until they're sold (or go IPO).
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/040615/how-do-returns-private-equity-investments-compare-returns-other-types-investments.asp

Some people must sell, despite the lack of a public market.  One of my investments is in "venture capital secondaries", where those running the fund buy privately held shares at a discount.  That discount, plus holding the shares until IPO, is how the investment profits.  So far, one company has gone IPO, and I got paid from that.

The biggest risk with private equity is that institutional investors have already hired the best people, and the rest may be subpar.  My investments have been with hedge funds that haven't established themselves enough to merit the attention of places like Yale Endowment.  From researching, I think the funds I invest in are too small for institutional investors, which also helps me avoid competing with them.

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Re: Wealthsimple
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2024, 10:43:18 PM »
One of my investments is in "venture capital secondaries", where those running the fund buy privately held shares at a discount.  That discount, plus holding the shares until IPO, is how the investment profits.  So far, one company has gone IPO, and I got paid from that.


How the heck did you get involved in this stuff and how do you find investments? Is it literally people you know personally? Did you cold call? Or do you do this through an online platform? I don't think I will get into this as my net worth isnt high enough, but I'm genuinely curious how one could get into private equities or venture capital without first being employed in the industry. It just seems wholly inaccessible to a random person, so any picture into this world you could give us would be fascinating.