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ladystensberg

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Where to begin?
« on: November 30, 2015, 02:57:19 AM »
First posted in wrong forum so re-posting here.

My husband and I are in our very early 30s. We owe a few thousand in medical bills, no credit card debt, 13k on a car, and nearly 50k in student loans. We have no assets except for a few diamonds from my wedding band. We have very little savings (under 5k). Where should we begin? What investments should we make? We both were laid off recently, but my husband is a software engineer and getting a high paying job in Seattle is pretty easy for him. We both feel overwhelmed, and are wanting to start a family soon. Is there any hope for us?

Here's some info:

When working, we were making $120k/year jointly. We have no dependents currently, and live in an apartment in the city of Seattle (Washington, USA). We have no investments or rental income currently - just a couple thousand in a savings account. Our current expenses (rent, car loan, student loans, insurance, etc) are about $4000/month - this doesn't include extras or food.

Thank you in advance! Please let me know if I can provide any  further info.

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Re: Where to begin?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 03:27:40 AM »
ladystensberg, welcome to the forum.

Sorry to hear that you were both laid off recently - without income it is difficult to pay debts.  If getting a high paying job is easy, then that seems a good place to begin.  Meanwhile, cut spending to the bone: e.g., no restaurant, no cable TV, etc.

Does that make sense?

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Re: Where to begin?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 03:43:44 AM »
Get job first, number 1 priority...

Spending $4000+ per month with less than $5k savings... it would not even cross my mind to think about investments in your situation.


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Re: Where to begin?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 05:17:55 AM »
+1 one getting jobs first - for the both of you, I'd say. And +1 for trying to minimize your spending. If you want more tips on that, you'll have to give us some more information, like a breakdown of your monthly spending. If you don't have that info, time to get it: track every penny you spend!

As for later, when you have found jobs: it would help with the advice-giving if we knew more about your debt. Like what kind of interest rates it carries, whether those are fixed or variable etc. etc. It's impossible to say whether you're better off getting out of debt first and investing later, or the other way around, without being able to compare the rate of return on both courses of action.

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Re: Where to begin?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2015, 12:55:06 PM »
Your question was broad, and asked for literal first steps, so hopefully I'm not being condescending when I break it down into the very basics. :) If I were you, this is what I would do.

Step 1: Get a job. Your husband first (because if you have less than $5k of savings, and spend $4k a month, a layoff of any length will quickly turn into a bleed of debt accumulation). 
Step 2: At said job(s), immediately set up automatic 401(k) deductions that maximize any employer contributions. That's free money. If there is no employer match, I would still set it up for at least 6%. More advanced mustachians might make a different choice if there was no employer match, but I think the 401(k) vehicle is great for people starting out. Contributions are automatic, so it takes your willpower out of the picture, they force you to keep it for retirement, and there are significant tax advantages.
Step 3: Figure out how much money you have per month after the 401(k) deduction. Let's say your husband can get a $75k job, contributes $5k per year to the 401(k), and you take home roughly 70% of that after taxes. That's about 4k per month.
Step 4 (really, don't wait to start this while you do steps 1-3): Track all of your previous spending and figure out where your money is going. $4k is high, but I know some of that is servicing loans and won't last forever. Cut non-essential expenses to the bone. Throw every extra penny at your highest interest debt. If you get a job, live like your husband's income is the only one you have, and use your whole paycheck to aggressively pay down your debt.
Step 5: After your debts are paid off, max out each of your 401(k) contributions. Continue to keep spending low.
Step 6: Eventually you'll have surplus money after your 401(k) is fully funded each year. Look into IRA options, and after that open a brokerage account. This is down the road, so you don't need to get all the details immediately (but keep jlcollinsnh's stock series bookmarked for when you get there).

Good luck!

 

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