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What things will you only buy new?
« on: December 13, 2014, 09:12:25 PM »
For me it's motorcycle helmets.  They only last so long before they recommend you retire them and they also recommend that you not have a used one since the liner forms to your head shape.  I am coming up on needing a replacement for mine since it's over 5 years old.  What things will you never buy used and why?

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 09:15:20 PM »
Condoms.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 09:23:50 PM »
Underwear. Tooth brushes.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2014, 10:18:27 PM »
Yeah.  Underwear and food.

And now probably couches and beds.  We just don't want to deal with bedbugs.  Though we have accepted a used bed in the last 5 years, but it was in storage for a long time, and we knew the donor.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 10:18:36 PM »
Socks, underwear and mattresses

Thats pretty much it

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 10:37:49 PM »
Underwear. Tooth brushes.

Can it be "Unused - like new", but unwrapped?  Or does the toothbrush have to have entered someone else's mouth to be considered not new?

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 10:44:58 PM »
Just from looking around and thinking for a second (things that haven't yet been said):

Eyeglasses
Hard drives
Batteries

Things people have said that I would buy used (and have):
Mattress
Couch

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2014, 10:46:34 PM »
If it's functional and still in good shape, pretty much any non-consumable I'd purchase used.

In other words, I can't think of anything I wouldn't purchase used (besides stuff that no one purchases used that people might say as a joke answer, like gum or toilet paper or something -- but anything that's actually sold used, I'd buy used, that I can think of).
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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 11:25:53 PM »
Underwear. I'm ok with used socks though if they aren't gross/smelly.

I do have some concerns with used mattresses/couches but am ok with it if I know where they came from.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 11:44:02 PM »
Seems odd that people don't want to save some cash by buying a used bed that's been used by one, two, at most a dozen other people. But offered the opportunity to pay for the privilege to sleep on a bed that's been used by hundreds, if not thousands of people? Sure, as long as a continental breakfast is included.
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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2014, 05:54:02 AM »
Shoes. A doctor told me there is nothing a thrift store can spray in a shoe to kill toe fungus and the risk is not worth it. 

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2014, 07:51:11 AM »
Infant/baby car seats

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2014, 09:11:09 AM »
Food! lol.. although i like leftovers!  Since i dont wear tidy whites anything that I can clean i am fine with. But i do like to my personal hygiene products new...razors,soap, toothpaste , toilet paper :-) etc... new.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2014, 09:40:25 AM »
Shoes. A doctor told me there is nothing a thrift store can spray in a shoe to kill toe fungus and the risk is not worth it.

Ack!  Shoes are the thing I love getting used. 

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2014, 10:25:29 AM »
I have definitely bought used furniture - a couch from a used furniture store that cleaned everything and I was recently browsing craigslist for a new sofa. Tables ect I've also bought used. We also bough a CL box spring, not sure I would do a mattress.

I can't do thrift store/garage sale clothes. BF does it all the time and has no problem with it. I am cool with getting used clothes from friends and have done that. I think it's that I can stand to wade through all the junk to find something I like that is also my size in the TS. I also don't buy many clothes because my closet is on a 1 in 1 out policy unless I make it myself, I'm an avid sewist.

I would also not buy used sheets/towels/linens. I don't care if you call them vintage. When I stay in hotels I try not to think about where those sheets, towels, beds have been...ewwww

I think I would be open to almost anything else.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2014, 02:00:25 PM »
Infant
I rent used infants :S, when I want to go to lego land or the zoo or somewhere that I'm out of place as a solo adult, I borrow my friend's kids and they can spend the day with me while I watch the attractions :)

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2014, 02:15:35 PM »
Underwear, socks, toothbrushes. That's pretty much it.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2014, 02:35:14 PM »
For me it's motorcycle helmets.  They only last so long before they recommend you retire them and they also recommend that you not have a used one since the liner forms to your head shape.  I am coming up on needing a replacement for mine since it's over 5 years old.  What things will you never buy used and why?

Aside from the obvious things like underwear, under shirts and what-not, I would definitely buy a new motorcycle helmet over a used one - like you.  Everyone else I certainly don't have to buy new.  In fact, virtually any electronic device (like cameras) and vehicles, always look used first.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2014, 02:41:00 PM »
Infant/baby car seats
Absolutely, you should only buy them new.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2014, 06:37:39 PM »
mattress, shoes, electronics, some art

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2014, 07:00:14 PM »
Why electronics?

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2014, 07:06:33 PM »
Just from looking around and thinking for a second (things that haven't yet been said):

Eyeglasses
Hard drives
Batteries



I've definitely re-purposed these.  Now if a drive is a zillion hours old, it might not be worth my time.  But I tend to inherit lots of old sad computers.  As long as it doesn't require performance and  has a backup, I'm okay with used.

...and I've had many used UPS's.  At > $100 a pop to re-fit them with batteries, I'll use them until the batteries go, then rehydrate the batteries with distilled water and go again.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2014, 07:16:45 PM »
I don't know if I would count anything out for the right price from the right people. I'm sure I would pass a lot of things up but my situation is good.

I'm good at spotting something good. I found a new self propelled mower next to someone's trash...replaced a fly wheel key for $1 and gave it to a friend 2 yrs ago. Rode past my park when they had a dump collection. Found a brand new looking freezer, power washer, 5 dvd players w/ remotes, 3 heaters, Ipod player, printer still in plastic/box...everything worked.

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In a computer? Never heard of this or are you talking about an open cell battery?

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2014, 07:22:42 PM »
Infant/baby car seats
Absolutely, you should only buy them new.
We felt comfortable with a hand-me down from a trusted friend. As long as it's not expired and hasn't been in an accident, I'm OK.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2014, 07:26:17 PM »
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Underwear.
Several people have mentioned this. I once got hand-me downs from my ex-wife's brother in law. He had outgrown them (as in got chubbier). Mother in law just gave them to me one day. I think I may still have some. The underwear lasted longer than the marriage.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2014, 07:28:15 PM »
Anything made out of fabric : bedsheets, clothes, beds, towels, etc.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2014, 08:30:36 PM »
Car seats
Helmets

I don't climb, but if I did I probably wouldn't buy any equipment used.

I've never seen a used toothbrush for sale (nor underwear, for that matter). 

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In a computer? Never heard of this or are you talking about an open cell battery?


Gel cell... Like you find in UPS batteries.  Even if they don't look like you can open them... you can.  Cut the plastic top off and you find a rubber stopper.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2014, 09:18:30 PM »
I've never seen a used toothbrush for sale (nor underwear, for that matter).

Sonicare toothbrush.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2014, 10:02:38 PM »
Seems odd that people don't want to save some cash by buying a used bed that's been used by one, two, at most a dozen other people. But offered the opportunity to pay for the privilege to sleep on a bed that's been used by hundreds, if not thousands of people? Sure, as long as a continental breakfast is included.

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A friend of mine is all icky about used things.... but no problem spending big bucks in a hotel. Sleeping on a 'used' mattress and 'used' linens. Whatever.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2014, 08:16:28 AM »
I would say mattress but I have owned two mattresses already and both belonged to someone else at one point of time.
As long as I know where it comes from I'm ok with it.

Toothbrushes, underwear and socks I would buy new. The rest is not that important if it has been cared for propely.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2014, 11:39:34 AM »
I've never seen a used toothbrush for sale (nor underwear, for that matter).

EBay.  When I was pregnant I looked into used nursing bras to save a few bucks.  Eventually got squicked out and decided to go with new but YES, people sell used underwear.

I also got a pair of underwear in a box of misc clothes off eBay.  They looked brand new, I do wear those.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2014, 11:40:28 AM »
Just from looking around and thinking for a second (things that haven't yet been said):

Eyeglasses
Hard drives
Batteries



I've definitely re-purposed these.  Now if a drive is a zillion hours old, it might not be worth my time.  But I tend to inherit lots of old sad computers.  As long as it doesn't require performance and  has a backup, I'm okay with used.

...and I've had many used UPS's.  At > $100 a pop to re-fit them with batteries, I'll use them until the batteries go, then rehydrate the batteries with distilled water and go again.
I guess I mostly meant external drives.  I see people bang them around too much to trust a used one for important data.  For unimportant data I always have my own old ones lying around.  Really old hard drives are never worth the hassle (unless you're trying to get one to talk to a 30 year old computer...).

And with batteries, I mostly meant car batteries and household AA batteries.  I actually am using a used UPS at home right now (bought from a friend).  How long do the batteries usually last in a UPS in your experience?  Mine is at least five years old and seems fine.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2014, 11:48:48 AM »
Things people have said [they will only buy new] that I would buy used (and have):

For me, to this subtopic: Underwear. I'm surprised how many people won't buy underwear used. To me, it's the same as buying a used bathing suit, or used pants. I can't guarantee the previous owner always wore underwear with their pants, so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in my mind. I just wash them first, as I do anything else.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2014, 12:19:05 PM »
Contact lenses.

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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2014, 12:26:18 PM »
Just from looking around and thinking for a second (things that haven't yet been said):

Eyeglasses
Hard drives
Batteries



I've definitely re-purposed these.  Now if a drive is a zillion hours old, it might not be worth my time.  But I tend to inherit lots of old sad computers.  As long as it doesn't require performance and  has a backup, I'm okay with used.

...and I've had many used UPS's.  At > $100 a pop to re-fit them with batteries, I'll use them until the batteries go, then rehydrate the batteries with distilled water and go again.
I guess I mostly meant external drives.  I see people bang them around too much to trust a used one for important data.  For unimportant data I always have my own old ones lying around.  Really old hard drives are never worth the hassle (unless you're trying to get one to talk to a 30 year old computer...).

And with batteries, I mostly meant car batteries and household AA batteries.  I actually am using a used UPS at home right now (bought from a friend).  How long do the batteries usually last in a UPS in your experience?  Mine is at least five years old and seems fine.

I've seen anywhere from about 2-5 years.  My current set is 3 years old and still thinks it is healthy.  But: if yours is 5 years old and still chugging along, I'd not worry about it. 

If your UPS is protecting something that is super important to be up "all the time" ... you probably want to proactively replace them.  If you're like me -- you wait until it says the batteries are failed.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2014, 12:30:14 PM »
Toilet paper.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2014, 12:45:55 PM »
Tires, shocks, brakes, clutches, batteries, headlights, etc. - with very few exceptions.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2014, 12:48:14 PM »
I don't understand the mattress - what is the big deal if a few people have slept on it, if you have ever been in a hotel or on a cruise? Bedbugs are different I guess, but there are none in my area.

I have bought used tires. Worked fine. If you have an understanding of looking at the treads, they are no different than your tires are halfway through their life.

No used underwear, but I would buy it at a thrift store if it had tags. No partly used deodorant or toothbrush. Nearly everything else is free game.
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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2014, 12:51:09 PM »
Shoes. A doctor told me there is nothing a thrift store can spray in a shoe to kill toe fungus and the risk is not worth it.

Ack!  Shoes are the thing I love getting used.

No shit?!  And all my shoes have been bought used.  No fungus though.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2014, 01:31:29 PM »
I've seen anywhere from about 2-5 years.  My current set is 3 years old and still thinks it is healthy.  But: if yours is 5 years old and still chugging along, I'd not worry about it. 

If your UPS is protecting something that is super important to be up "all the time" ... you probably want to proactively replace them.  If you're like me -- you wait until it says the batteries are failed.
Nah, it's not anything "super important"; it's just my home PC.  At work our servers on a a brand new giant beefy UPS that weighs probably the same as I do.

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2014, 01:59:11 PM »
I have bought used tires. Worked fine. If you have an understanding of looking at the treads, they are no different than your tires are halfway through their life.

That is not 100% true. Hard impacts can weaken sidewalls or break cords. You can't see that in the tread pattern. This is a particular issue around here because our roads are so bad. They will vibrate, make tons of noise, and generally not be worthwhile (I'm saying this because I tried this more than once and only have a 50/50 success rate). Also much of the cost is in mounting / dismounting so you generally aren't saving that much. I will buy used tires in certain situations (my current snow tires on steel rims were a steal at $150) but usually not. Just my experience.

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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2014, 02:09:37 PM »
I draw a distinction between family-used and stranger-used. Growing up, my extended family was big on hand-me-downs, and there was definitely some underwear included. And swimsuits. But I wouldn't buy either from Goodwill or a garage sale.

I have used a "used" toothbrush. My son got a new fancy light-up toothbrush from Grandma less than a week after getting a new one. I prefer child-sized toothbrushes, and it still had a lot of life in it, so I washed it with dish soap and started using it. Not too much different from using the same fork or something, in my book.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2014, 02:11:19 PM »
Infant/baby car seats
Absolutely, you should only buy them new.
We felt comfortable with a hand-me down from a trusted friend. As long as it's not expired and hasn't been in an accident, I'm OK.

A motorcycle helmet, I can understand. The protective foam liner gets more brittle with age and you can't test it without also damaging it. Manufacturers recommend replacing them every five years but I consider that a very conservative estimate considering the source. I will probably wear mine for around 10 years, give or take, before replacing it. The helmet may even still be perfectly good at that point, but I assume that improvements in helmet design over the course of a decade will be worth the upgrade alone.

I am perfectly okay with throwing away a child car seat that's been in an accident but car seat expiration dates are total and utter bullshit. The seats have a very simple job: hold a baby to the seat. This is not a difficult engineering task. They don't make them out of anything that deteriorates significantly with time and age. Can you imagine if they did? There would have been about a thousand and one class-action lawsuits along with several swift, overly-broad, and non-appealable actions from the CPSC by now.

Car seats are essentially a one or two-piece strong plastic shell, seat belt straps, and some padding for comfort. That's it. The seat belt webbing doesn't go bad, the padding doesn't matter for safety purposes, and the plastic shells will haunt our landfills for millions of years.

When our kids were babies, we had two car seats that were acquired used. (One we bought from craigslist, one was given to us for free.) They were similar designs and made the by same company. One was about five years old, the other about ten. Oddly enough, the ten year-old seat was better made and stronger than the newer one. I know this because I stripped both of them down, cleaned them, and inspected them for signs of damage and weakness. I found none and happily declared both of them fit for protecting the most important things in my life.

Now that we're done making babies, I have to throw the perfectly-working seats away because it's illegal to sell child seats that have been recalled. Now, before you say, "wait, that's a good thing", I have to point out that nothing about these seats is dangerous in any way. If that were the case, I would not have put my babies in them. The real story is: one of the seats had an optional rain cover or something that could pinch a baby's fingers if said baby had fingers in the mechanism while an unobservant adult retracted the cover. First, I don't see this being a recall issue to begin with and second, my seat doesn't have a rain cover. As for the other seat, there is nothing wrong it either, but it was originally sold with a stroller that had a defective wheel or something. We never had the stroller, but the seat is considered recalled as well because it was sold with it and has the same model number.

Sorry for the rant, I just get rather worked up about the lack of common sense in general when it comes to child safety products.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2014, 02:16:42 PM »
For me it's motorcycle helmets.  They only last so long before they recommend you retire them and they also recommend that you not have a used one since the liner forms to your head shape.  I am coming up on needing a replacement for mine since it's over 5 years old.  What things will you never buy used and why?

A used helmet is asking for trouble for a number of reasons including unseen damage or delamination of the composite/plastic shell, bondline and foam.  You have no good way of verifying the helmet is in working order without professional equipment, and even then it can be hard to know for sure how strong it will be with damage.

I have mixed feelings about replacing motorcycle helmets every five years.  I work in composite material test and design, and I would really like to see some data on aging of helmet materials.  The difference between living in a dry temperate environment vs. a hot and humid climate will make a HUGE difference on lasting power of sealants, bonds and resins.  Basically, west coast=good and south/east coast=bad for material life cycle performance.  If I lived in a place with decent dry weather, I wouldn't worry much about hitting the 5 year mark.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2014, 02:32:18 PM »
Sorry for the rant, I just get rather worked up about the lack of common sense in general when it comes to child safety products.
Continue rant: What pisses me off is that I can never find any honest information on safety. Everything has been filtered through a lawyer and several layers of CYA. At the end of it all, all there is is a vague and generalized admonition to avoid anything vaguely risky. This came up with recently guidelines for storing expressed breast milk. Apparently you're supposed to toss it if the baby has even started feeding on the bottle, because bacteria. Yeah, we never did that. Baby was fine. It would have just been nice to have some reference that gave real risk values instead of a panicked "AVOID EVERYTHING!" I guess I'm saying I agree with you.

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2014, 04:15:56 PM »
Things people have said [they will only buy new] that I would buy used (and have):

For me, to this subtopic: Underwear. I'm surprised how many people won't buy underwear used. To me, it's the same as buying a used bathing suit, or used pants. I can't guarantee the previous owner always wore underwear with their pants, so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in my mind. I just wash them first, as I do anything else.
No, but I can guarantee that I always wear underwear with them once they are MY pants ;)

I won't do underwear, swimwear, or toothbrushes in a thrift store/garage sale situation- I would be willing to borrow a clean one from a friend/family member.  I also wouldn't get any safety equipment that can be compromised without being visually damaged (helmets, carseats, etc.) without knowing and trusting the source.  I'll add a couch- I'd get a used mattress but not a used couch unless I planned on reupholstering it.  After all a mattress has clean sheets between my skin and it, a couch doesn't.

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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2014, 04:22:46 PM »
For me, to this subtopic: Underwear. I'm surprised how many people won't buy underwear used. To me, it's the same as buying a used bathing suit, or used pants. I can't guarantee the previous owner always wore underwear with their pants, so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in my mind. I just wash them first, as I do anything else.
No, but I can guarantee that I always wear underwear with them once they are MY pants ;)

Ooooh, good point!!!     Not me ;) PJs, too, I get from the thrift and don't generally wear underwear with. For folks concerned, make sure you follow minimustache1985's lead, cause I know a fair number of people who own and wear no underwear ever... and donate to thrifts.

re: Shoes/fungus. It's never occurred to me, but I definitely get most footwear used. Schools and camps, etc, require different kinds, and then there's snowboots, too, and kids grow so fast, so I end up having to get him 2-3 pairs every year. That'd be a lot of cash for new. I get awesome ones used for $2-$10. No fungus so far, woohoo!

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2014, 05:14:56 PM »
socks
underwear
toothbrushes
swimsuits (this seems to be an annual thing, though the last one only lasted 5 months.  Lost too much darned weight.)
Carseats (I will happily take a used seat from a friend, and have done so, but prefer to not buy a used one unless I know what it's been through)

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Re: What things will you only buy new?
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2014, 05:19:09 PM »
With used pants you can wear underwear.  With used underwear you wouldn't wear new underwear under old.  The only exception would be long underwear.