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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1600 on: November 23, 2019, 11:42:31 AM »
Added the app Flashfood to my phone.  Found my local grocery store is on it ;)

This app basically helps grocery stores waste less food.  They put things near expiry on for about half the price. 

Most people thing that a best before date means it will be unsafe after said date.  My background is the food industry.  These dates are generally set on freshness.  So, while there may be a minor and likely undetectable difference in flavour they want to sell it to preserve their company name. 

Also, any mustachian would know that the freezer is your best friend or just plan a meal that includes said item. 

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« Reply #1601 on: November 25, 2019, 12:32:38 PM »
Biked with my oldest to her orthodontist appointment last week.

Biked to the gym and then for groceries this weekend. I'm on track to bike 3700km this year. According to this calculator, I've apparently saved 0.8 metric tons of CO2 from the atmosphere.

https://calculator.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx?tab=4

Apparently my usual grocery store already has Flashfood. I've been wondering what the funny shelf at the exit was about. I thought it was some kind of quick serve option, but was confused about the odd selection of available items.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1602 on: November 29, 2019, 04:45:03 PM »
I had made a green bean casserole for Thanksgiving even though I am the only one who likes it who was present. (We love it in my family of origin, but my husband and kids, not so much.)

So there was a ton left and I knew I couldn't eat it all myself. Brought it to work, left a note on the fridge (written on scratch paper, of course) and it is all gone! Food waste avoided! (I work with a bunch of underpaid 20 somethings who are basically trash compactors.)

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« Reply #1603 on: November 30, 2019, 01:37:11 AM »
We've been enjoying the Thanksgiving holiday by staying home.  By Sunday I will not have gone anywhere for 5 days straight.   

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« Reply #1604 on: December 05, 2019, 05:54:14 PM »
I got new windows installed in my condo and they are making a huge difference already in the coziness department.  Will be using my HVAC much, much less.  I have also been using up random small toiletries and recycling the bottles as I go.  I really need to quit buying some of this shite.  So much packaging! 

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« Reply #1605 on: December 05, 2019, 06:13:22 PM »
I brought a bag for my bulk bin snacks.

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« Reply #1606 on: December 05, 2019, 07:26:32 PM »
Went to take the garbage to the curb this morning only to discover the bin was empty. 2nd time this has happened. It's frankly a little weird since it doesn't feel like we've changed much about how we live.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1607 on: December 07, 2019, 11:04:14 AM »
@TrMama - bravo you.

Yesterday I took the train to my meeting and this morning I walked to the market.

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« Reply #1608 on: December 08, 2019, 06:53:28 AM »
We greatly reduced meat consumption for the holidays for my family. It used to be a big meat fest with lots of beef/pork. Now there were only one fish and one meat option as main dishes. I guess the environmental impact of the meal must've been reduced by at least 75% if not more and everyone was completely content with the options offered.

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« Reply #1609 on: December 08, 2019, 01:57:40 PM »
I picked up corporate leftovers to bring to a potluck.

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« Reply #1610 on: December 08, 2019, 02:10:46 PM »
Biked to work and rescued some recyclables from the trash can. Also, I have successfully trained my husband to drain bacon on cut-up flour bags that I save for this purpose instead of paper towels.

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« Reply #1611 on: December 08, 2019, 06:17:53 PM »
Rode my bike to the gym rather than driving. 8 miles round trip.

Question for all. CFLs versus LED bulbs. Worth swapping them out?

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« Reply #1612 on: December 08, 2019, 07:07:13 PM »
I drove my car so infrequently...due to injury...that a mouse has taken up residence someplace...and I plan to charge rent.  The first 2 parts are real..sadly.

Working the temperatures down in the house slowly after having company and living in balmy temps.

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« Reply #1613 on: December 08, 2019, 08:13:55 PM »
Rode my bike to the gym rather than driving. 8 miles round trip.

Question for all. CFLs versus LED bulbs. Worth swapping them out?

I just swapped out our CFLs as they died and needed to be replaced. Just make sure you get LEDs bulbs for each fixture that you'll be happy with. Those suckers last up to 20 years, so you'll have each one for a loooong time.

We've had all LEDs for a number of years now. I had a bulb die last year and my kids had no idea why the light wouldn't work or how to fix it. They were 10 and 12 at the time. It was an odd sign of the times. Pretty sure I'd changed tons of bulbs by the time I was 12.

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« Reply #1614 on: December 08, 2019, 08:21:45 PM »
I just swapped out our CFLs as they died and needed to be replaced. Just make sure you get LEDs bulbs for each fixture that you'll be happy with. Those suckers last up to 20 years, so you'll have each one for a loooong time.

We've had all LEDs for a number of years now. I had a bulb die last year and my kids had no idea why the light wouldn't work or how to fix it. They were 10 and 12 at the time. It was an odd sign of the times. Pretty sure I'd changed tons of bulbs by the time I was 12.



Or maybe not.  I had a light flickering like an old school incandescent ;).  It suddenly died like one too.  And this at about 16 months.  If you see on the package they last 13 years.  Nope!

I'd still do exactly what you recommended though.  I love the LEDs.

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« Reply #1615 on: December 08, 2019, 08:23:10 PM »
I bought a road bike for $200 and rode it an estimated 1500 km.  I replaced only blown tubes.  I sold it for $200 to another guy today.  It was one of my most mustachian and environmental feats to date!  No new bike produced.  2 happy people. 

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« Reply #1616 on: December 09, 2019, 02:46:08 PM »
Brought my Contigo mug to the Target Starbucks. Bonus: They give you a lot more that way and it stays so hot.

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« Reply #1617 on: December 09, 2019, 03:14:25 PM »
Did all yard work with manual tools; more energy from me, less energy from non-renewable fossil fuels.

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« Reply #1618 on: December 09, 2019, 07:42:59 PM »


Or maybe not.  I had a light flickering like an old school incandescent ;).  It suddenly died like one too.  And this at about 16 months.  If you see on the package they last 13 years.  Nope!

I'd still do exactly what you recommended though.  I love the LEDs.

I love LEDs too. LEDs pointing downwards can be susceptible to premature death due to overheating though if the pot has no hole at the top.

Question for all. CFLs versus LED bulbs. Worth swapping them out?

The math still says yes in most cases, but more than any other bulb type, make sure that CFLs are recycled properly. IKEA takes them back (even if not bought there) among other places.

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« Reply #1619 on: December 09, 2019, 08:45:25 PM »
-- Made vegan jambalya for dinner and lunch leftovers
-- lost my reusable water bottle :( but found a giveaway one that DH got at a conference and am using it instead of buying another one
-- Decorated the tree with vintage ornaments collected over the years.  The tree was still kind of bare, so I sliced and dried a bag of oranges -- compostable Christmas decor that doesn't need storing later!
-- DH is starting a new job that will require him to go into the office rather than worling from home.  He will be able to take the bus though, and it may help reduce electricity usage (sort of?  I guess the lights will be on and running at the shared open office whether he is there or not, right?)

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1620 on: December 13, 2019, 07:10:23 AM »
Used chinese food containers to store corporate leftovers from a Monday lunch meeting for lunch the rest of the week!  Much less food waste, plus meals for me!

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« Reply #1621 on: December 13, 2019, 09:52:34 AM »
Fixed my work headphones with coffee stir sticks and duct tape instead of buying a new set. I'd managed to snap the plastic over the ear part when I was adjusting them.

Wrapped presents using a combination of plain brown paper bags and wrapping paper I found for free on the side of the road last summer.

Also fixed my bike after snapping the rear axle this week. That was an easy fix though since I simply replaced the entire wheel. When the axle snapped, the hub was also damaged, plus I've ridden it enough that the rim was also pretty worn. The bike shop will recycle the old wheel for me. So I'm still riding a 10+ yo bike I bought used. I've put 3600km on it so far this year.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1622 on: December 13, 2019, 11:30:14 AM »
Fixed my work headphones with coffee stir sticks and duct tape instead of buying a new set. I'd managed to snap the plastic over the ear part when I was adjusting them.

Wrapped presents using a combination of plain brown paper bags and wrapping paper I found for free on the side of the road last summer.

Also fixed my bike after snapping the rear axle this week. That was an easy fix though since I simply replaced the entire wheel. When the axle snapped, the hub was also damaged, plus I've ridden it enough that the rim was also pretty worn. The bike shop will recycle the old wheel for me. So I'm still riding a 10+ yo bike I bought used. I've put 3600km on it so far this year.

Very impressed!!  That's amazing ;)

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1623 on: December 13, 2019, 02:02:19 PM »
Switching over from using tinned chickpeas in various recipes (probably at a rate of 3-4 tins a week depending what meals we're having) to dried carlin peas.

Don't even know where UK supermarket chickpeas are grown (would guess southern Europe). Label says "produced in the UK", but that'll be cooked and canned, not grown*. Much shipping, much packaging.

Carlin peas are an old British variety and come from an organic farm about fifty miles away (although they've probably actually done a couple of hundred miles to get to us via the distributor). The small bag I bought to try out is plastic, but their bigger quantities are paper sacks.

Bit more thinking ahead to get them soaked and cooked, but otherwise a straight swap.




* I know they're not because it's only this year that someone has grown the first commercial scale crop of chickpeas in the UK. They've just come on sale through the same distributor we bought the carlin peas (and a big sack of UK grown green lentils) from. I'll probably buy some of those as well, because I think shifting farming to more locally grown plant protein is something to be supported.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1624 on: December 13, 2019, 02:13:45 PM »
ptf - already implementing environmentally responsible behaviors, but clearly there's more to learn from this group

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1625 on: December 14, 2019, 10:01:29 PM »
My nephew asked for an Xbox game for Chanukah, and I was able to find a local store where I could order it online and pick it up at the store. Same price as all the major online retailers and I was able to get it with no extra packaging/bag/box/receipt/etc. and no wasted delivery truck fuel. Bonus: I supported a local business instead of an international megacorp :-)  I'm going to try to do as much holiday shopping at local stores via public transit as possible.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1626 on: December 16, 2019, 08:03:06 AM »
Swept and dusted the floors instead of vacuuming.   

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1627 on: December 16, 2019, 01:44:29 PM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

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« Reply #1628 on: December 16, 2019, 02:20:57 PM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

Except that in first/second world countries, once people hit middle class, population growth drops to almost zero.

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« Reply #1629 on: December 16, 2019, 02:30:23 PM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

I'll respectfully disagree. Having or not having kids is not a "green thing".* It's a biological imperative for the species to survive.

There are a lot of reasons one may choose for having or not having kids, but judging others for having children is as equally wrong as those who might judge people for not having kids.

*Or, if you insist that it's "the single, greenest thing", my counterargument would be that suicide is greener (and homicide even greener, and genocide even greener, and extinction the greenest). (Not making light of these concepts, just following the logic train.)

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« Reply #1630 on: December 17, 2019, 08:18:11 AM »
This is a thing that I did last winter but realized today: adding insulation to my attic and exterior walls has lowered my electrical and natural gas consumption by about 20%! I pay my bills via equal monthly amounts, and for the second year running have had a large credit on my account at the end of the calculation year (September for me). The first year it was primarily through reducing my conscious use (by line-drying clothes, lowering the house temperature) and this past year I continued those habits and added insulation. While lower than average for my area, my home carbon footprint is still unsustainably high at nearly 3 tonnes of Co2.

*The grid electricity in my province is all hydroelectric, and if I switched to all electric heating, I could just about eliminate that 3 tonnes of CO2. However, my energy provider sells hydroelectric power to areas in the USA that would otherwise use coal to generate electricity, and it's more efficient overall for me to be burning natural gas for heat than for someone else to be burning coal for electricity.

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« Reply #1631 on: December 17, 2019, 08:51:18 AM »
I booked a train ticket for my travel on Thursday.  Commuter rail won't work for a holiday lunch time.

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« Reply #1632 on: December 17, 2019, 09:28:35 AM »
I'll respectfully disagree. Having or not having kids is not a "green thing".* It's a biological imperative for the species to survive.

There are a lot of reasons one may choose for having or not having kids, but judging others for having children is as equally wrong as those who might judge people for not having kids.

*Or, if you insist that it's "the single, greenest thing", my counterargument would be that suicide is greener (and homicide even greener, and genocide even greener, and extinction the greenest). (Not making light of these concepts, just following the logic train.)

I'm mostly being facetious. I think the whole "environmentalism as a moral stance" matter is ridiculous.

People who whine about the environment, but who also have children, are hypocrites to their own cause. As you pointed out, the fact that they don't commit suicide is further indication that there are some things more important than the environment. The fact is, if someone has kids, and I do not, then my Porsche is greener than their family Prius.

People who whine about the environment, but who then demand the adoption of inferior technologies (hydro, wind, and other sources that depend upon gravitational energy) as a "substitute", are scientifically-illiterate busybodies who want to use government policy to interfere with everyone else's lives just so that they can feel better about themselves.

I don't doubt the facts about the greenhouse effect. What I am skeptical about is whatever moral imperative or government solution people try to shoehorn in along with their righteous indignation. The challenge of preserving the environment will be achieved by scientists developing better energy-generating and energy-storage technology in the laboratory, not by moral zealots.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1633 on: December 17, 2019, 09:29:16 AM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

Except that in first/second world countries, once people hit middle class, population growth drops to almost zero.

So what?

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« Reply #1634 on: December 17, 2019, 09:52:36 AM »
Don't you love it when some child with nothing better to do shows up in an internet forum, posts off-topic and openly admits to trolling, and continues to act entitled to people's time and attention? LOL

I picked up another wishlist gift for Chanukah with no bag/box/etc. via public transit, and combined five different stops into one trip (even though public transit uses minimal energy per person, it still uses some fuel to carry the weight of each person). I also picked up some things for my mom that would have been either picked up by her in a car or ordered on Amazon with all the associated packaging waste.

And when the lady at the liquor store offered to gift-wrap the bottle of wine I intended to drink immediately, I said no, even when she tried to convince me because it's free and it's fun to unwrap gifts you buy for yourself. Weird. I saved the plain paper she wrapped it in (to protect the bottle) and will draw on it and use it to wrap something for my brother, who will find it amusing.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1635 on: December 18, 2019, 11:37:04 AM »
Don't you love it when some child with nothing better to do shows up in an internet forum, posts off-topic and openly admits to trolling, and continues to act entitled to people's time and attention? LOL

Considering the only off-topic comment I see on this page is your notably ironic one, would you care to enlighten us as to which child you are intending to insult with your comment?

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« Reply #1636 on: December 18, 2019, 12:56:10 PM »
Biked into work again today, despite some rain. Tomorrow I'm skipping the bike due to weather (this is rare for me). We're supposed to get 50-75mm of rain. For people who live in drier areas, this is what I jokingly refer to as "build and ark" amounts of rain.

On the weekend I made some vegan sausages that are supposed to resemble the apple sage Field Roast ones my daughter and I like so much. I also used some tamale corn husks I had laying around to steam them, instead of using tinfoil. The commercial ones are usually $8/4, so the homemade ones saved some cash too.

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« Reply #1637 on: December 18, 2019, 02:48:23 PM »
Biked into work again today, despite some rain. Tomorrow I'm skipping the bike due to weather (this is rare for me). We're supposed to get 50-75mm of rain. For people who live in drier areas, this is what I jokingly refer to as "build and ark" amounts of rain.

On the weekend I made some vegan sausages that are supposed to resemble the apple sage Field Roast ones my daughter and I like so much. I also used some tamale corn husks I had laying around to steam them, instead of using tinfoil. The commercial ones are usually $8/4, so the homemade ones saved some cash too.

@TrMama please link the recipe over on my journal.  These will be made!

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« Reply #1638 on: December 18, 2019, 03:17:55 PM »
It was actually Monday. But I finally got around to starting the project of cutting up scrap flannel that I have (worn out PJ pants, the leftovers from pillowcases that I converted from king to standard) into usable rags/hankies. The library has a serger!

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« Reply #1639 on: December 18, 2019, 04:01:56 PM »
Don't you love it when some child with nothing better to do shows up in an internet forum, posts off-topic and openly admits to trolling, and continues to act entitled to people's time and attention? LOL

Considering the only off-topic comment I see on this page is your notably ironic one, would you care to enlighten us as to which child you are intending to insult with your comment?

I'll respectfully disagree. Having or not having kids is not a "green thing".* It's a biological imperative for the species to survive.

There are a lot of reasons one may choose for having or not having kids, but judging others for having children is as equally wrong as those who might judge people for not having kids.

*Or, if you insist that it's "the single, greenest thing", my counterargument would be that suicide is greener (and homicide even greener, and genocide even greener, and extinction the greenest). (Not making light of these concepts, just following the logic train.)

I'm mostly being facetious. I think the whole "environmentalism as a moral stance" matter is ridiculous.

People who whine about the environment, but who also have children, are hypocrites to their own cause. As you pointed out, the fact that they don't commit suicide is further indication that there are some things more important than the environment. The fact is, if someone has kids, and I do not, then my Porsche is greener than their family Prius.

People who whine about the environment, but who then demand the adoption of inferior technologies (hydro, wind, and other sources that depend upon gravitational energy) as a "substitute", are scientifically-illiterate busybodies who want to use government policy to interfere with everyone else's lives just so that they can feel better about themselves.

I don't doubt the facts about the greenhouse effect. What I am skeptical about is whatever moral imperative or government solution people try to shoehorn in along with their righteous indignation. The challenge of preserving the environment will be achieved by scientists developing better energy-generating and energy-storage technology in the laboratory, not by moral zealots.

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Pretty sure that she's referring to Escapedape's deliberately controversial comment about not having kids and then poo-pooing the idea that individuals (who are on a forum designed to encourage individuals to take responsibility for how they live their lives and reduce the financial and environmental impact of consumerism) should take any action to reduce our carbon footprint through effective use of existing but imperfect technologies such as wind, solar and hydroelectric power.

While new technologies and innovations will undoubtedly play a large role in the mitigation of the impact of climate change, the fact is that they do not yet exist. Accordingly, we need to buy time and slow the rate of accumulation of greenhouse gasses by using the tools that are available to us NOW, so that we buy the scientific community time to develop new technologies before a climate cataclysm.

Edit: Escapedape is suggesting that there is no need to reduce our environmental impact, because science will magically save the day AND that we're self-important fascists for trying.
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« Reply #1640 on: December 18, 2019, 04:46:16 PM »
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Edit: Escapedape is suggesting that there is no need to reduce our environmental impact, because science will magically save the day AND that we're self-important fascists for trying.

Emphasis mine.

I just finished Lindy West's new book The Witches Are Coming and a lot of it had to do with how we find ourselves in a culture where it isn't cool to care too much about anything, at least among certain segments of the population. She's making an impassioned plea for, well, not being like that.

I forgot another thing I did Monday. I finished the set of cloth napkins that I am giving my nephew for Christmas. They are made from licensed fabric because he's nine. Now he will have his very own cool set to use in his 100% cloth-napkin house. I hope that both he and my kids will grow up to be vaguely horrified by the idea of paper napkins, as they are not something they've been exposed to regularly.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1641 on: December 18, 2019, 05:15:50 PM »
Edit: Escapedape is suggesting that there is no need to reduce our environmental impact, because science will magically save the day AND that we're self-important fascists for trying.

I remember politicians and the media in the 80s telling us that we would be spiraling towards environmental disaster within the next ten years.

They said the same thing in the 90s.

And in the aughts.

My mum tells me they were saying it in the 60s and 70s.

And they're saying it again now. But no disaster yet. Just a lot of panicked people voting more nonsense into law.

We've banned plastic bags and straws here and there, and admonished ourselves in front of the world. Meanwhile, countries like China and India are somehow free to throw global consideration to the wind and continue at a pace which suits their them, global environmental treaties be damned.

I care what happens to the planet too - it's where I keep all my stuff.

I'll take personal steps to lower my footprint the same as anyone else. The operative idea here is that they will be personal steps. They will be voluntary. I will not use the law to twist people's arms. I will let the demand for greener solutions guide the market to providing solutions, rather than creating incentives for abuse by entrusting the whole process to elected officials.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1642 on: December 18, 2019, 06:16:21 PM »

Then elect better officials.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1643 on: December 19, 2019, 03:49:12 AM »
It's a sunny day, so I opened the curtains on the south facing windows as soon as the sun came up instead of turning on the heating. The house was a bit chilly at first so I put on a sweater.

I've spent this morning shining our shoes and mending our clothes so they will last us longer. Next up is altering a dress so I can wear it to a Christmas party.

I'm having leftovers from a lunch place for dinner (there's an app in my country that allows you to buy leftovers from restaurants for 1/3 of the regular price) I will either walk or bike there to pick it up, depending on the weather.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1644 on: December 19, 2019, 06:07:15 AM »
Last night I had a Christmas dinner with my sports club. We had a handful of vegetarians, one vegan and one extremely complicated case of allergies. The host wanted to make seperate batches, but I stepped up and suggested a dish that would suit everyone with one minor tweak for the complicated allergy case. In the end everyone LOVED my dish (as in, literally fighting over the last bits) and we had about 25 people eat a full vegan 3 course dinner (although some desert options had dairy), being much more environmentally friendly than the original beef-heavy idea. 

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1645 on: December 19, 2019, 06:52:55 AM »
I ran out of raw sugar, so I took the jar I normally store it in, and brought it to my little neighborhood health food store. Turns out they let you fill your own jars with bulk products! (most places here will not, health code or something). It was barely more expensive per pound than buying the big plastic bag at Costco, and it feels so much simpler to just empty the jar and take it back to the store and fill it back up again. They have a huge variety of bulk goods too, bulk coffee and bulk spices. I am especially excited about the spices, as my last town had an apothecary with 100s of spice jars, so I've already transitioned to 100% refilling jars with bulk spices, and I'm happy to be able to continue that now!

Also I found that we have a little eco goods type store here, and they have bulk cleaning products, toothpaste, body wash, etc. They have the laundry and dish soap I already use, so I'm stoked to be able to just refill my bottles/jars and finally stop having to recycle those giant laundry soap bottles every few months

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1646 on: December 19, 2019, 08:54:47 AM »
The shop right next door to me has bulk sugar and spices and flours too. I love it. The spices are reasonably priced (and really good), but the bulk sugar and flour -- alas, very expensive. I still get it rather frequently because it's a 30 second walk from my house to a lovely little shop and I can just bring my glass jars instead of getting into a car and driving to a big box store to get a big paper bag of things, but one of these days I need to see if I can just order a 25 lb bag through them at wholesale price. That's what they empty into the bulk bins anyways. ;)
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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1647 on: December 19, 2019, 12:52:37 PM »
I'll take personal steps to lower my footprint the same as anyone else. The operative idea here is that they will be personal steps. They will be voluntary. I will not use the law to twist people's arms. I will let the demand for greener solutions guide the market to providing solutions, rather than creating incentives for abuse by entrusting the whole process to elected officials.

While I agree that personal steps are the best thing that you (or any of us) can do, they unfortunately are not the best things that society can do. This is the old tragedy of the commons, where unless everybody (or most everybody) takes the necessary steps, the status quo will not change, because there are personal economic incentives to maintaining the status quo. The most effective way to address tragedy of the commons scenarios is through government, as has been shown time and again (ozone layer hole, countless fisheries, etc.).

As for the global warming skepticism: It is understandable, for several reasons. But know this: there is a very simple physical relationship between atmospheric carbon dioxide and long-wave radiation, which results in global warming as surely as the greenhouse results in local warming*. Now, there are a lot of other variables in the global climate system that affect the details, but the main idea is an unavoidable physical truth.

(I'm sorry for going way off topic.... Feel free to PM me or start a new thread if you'd like to discuss further.)

*Consider that the Netherlands, of all places, grow tomatoes 24/7/365 with yields five times more than the next best-producing country (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/holland-agriculture-sustainable-farming/).

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1648 on: December 19, 2019, 02:58:24 PM »
Riding a city bus to get to an appointment instead of taking a private car

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1649 on: December 19, 2019, 03:39:17 PM »
I used a deodorant crystal rock for the first time. Felt weird to apply but seems to work.