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Psyche

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Ugh, new budget app needed
« on: March 14, 2022, 09:47:11 PM »
So, I used Mint for years.  My partner didn't like it (but wasn't using anything himself), so when we combined finances we tried YNAB.  About 6 months in (a generous allowance for the learning curve, I'd say) I am ready to throw YNAB against a wall.  Too many things are broken (including syncing with my main bank, plus it doesn't even allow tags—so reimbursements are a hot mess).  We tried Quicken, too, and hated it. 

I am working 2 jobs now, and much as I like spreadsheeting, I simply do not have the time for lots of manual fiddling to get the &%*^ software to work.

Any recommendations?  I see a lot of new apps out there, but especially with bank linking I want to go with something secure.   

My partner wants to try Monarch.  Anyone have experience with that?

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Re: Ugh, new budget app needed
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2022, 12:05:26 AM »
Personal Capital is better with budgeting than it used to be but still has something of an investment focus & they will try to sell you management.

I do like their spending view best of anyone’s, though, a wheel somewhat like a clock that is demarcated for the months of the year or days of the month depending on time period selected. I think it would be especially well-suited to people who worry about running out of money at the end of the month - less likely here - but I love to see I’ve spent e.g. six months of money in nine months.

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Re: Ugh, new budget app needed
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2022, 10:14:52 AM »
OK, thank you!

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Re: Ugh, new budget app needed
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2022, 01:24:15 PM »
Just wanted to report that I have Monarch all set up and I am *loving* it so far (1+ week in).

I'd say Monarch combines the best of what I liked in both Mint & YNAB, plus it handles lots of investment detail (which is maybe similiar to Personal Capital?).  The visuals are really good: nice clean views of information, multiple graphs available, cute customizable icons for categories (you could remove those if you want).  The site is well-designed (e.g., separate addresses for page views so allows using the back button).    It even has one feature that I've always gone into Excel for: a yearly view of the budget/actuals (months as columns), or even further (years as columns).

I think my favorite part is that Monarch allows categorization rules to be very detailed/specific, so it is doing *far* better at capturing my transactions the first time around, meaning I don't have to do much manual mucking about.  For example, I can say "if the merchant CONTAINS this phrase" instead of needing an exact match, which captures all the variations that my different banks use.  I can also set rules like, "if the AMOUNT is X and the ACCOUNT is Y" for those annoying recurring transactions that my credit union processes with a different incomprehensible code each time. (Note: I am using custom categories, so I have to set up my own rules; if you use the system categories it uses machine learning, so manual rules are optional.)  As far as creating the rules, every time I recategorize a new transaction, a small box pops up in the corner of the screen that I can click on, so I have not found it too much work.  It's such a relief now to log in and just see everything in place. (YNAB was seriously depressing/exhausting with its constant pile of transactions requiring review, and I both do this frequently and like this stuff!)

Plus, it is a paid app, so no ads and no selling of data.  Thank god.

Anyway, just my 2 cents in case anyone else is looking.  And no, I don't work for Monarch ; )