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College Student Laundry
« on: August 31, 2013, 06:53:10 PM »
The time has come for me to do my own laundry.

I'm re-reading the ERE book and will go buy some borax, sodium carbonate, and [self-grated] bar soap tomorrow--and maybe a clothing rack since I can't think of a good spot for a clothesline.

I live in a dorm--with a roommate--in Amherst, Massachusetts with washing machines at $1.25 a load, and drying machines at I-haven't-checked-the-prices-yet.

A few questions:

1. How to wash clothes (i.e. which colors with which, how to not ruin fabrics, etc)
2. Does the plunger & 10 gal bucket strategy actually work? How do I go about it?
3. What about the laundry board? And how does that work?
4. When do I use dry or liquid detergent?
5. What would be a good location to start a clothesline? Should I just stick with the rack inside my dorm?

Thanks in advance

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 07:02:39 PM »
1. Put it all in together. Only separate when you have new items that haven't been pre washed. You can pre wash in a bucket/sink if you don't want to do a load for a single item.
4. Doesn't mater.
5. By an open window. In the sun if you have any.

For a single person I'd expect to do laundry only once a week (2x at most). At $1.25 a wash, that cheap enough I wouldn't bother with alternatives.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2013, 07:05:52 PM by gooki »

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 07:16:34 PM »
Honestly, it never seemed to me that making your own laundry detergent was that cost effective.  I do 2 loads a week, which I think is a little higher than average for one person.   68 loads of powdered tide is about $15 on Amazon.  You can use 1/2 as much and your clothes will usually be fine unless you have stains.  So, for $15 a year, I don't think making it is worth it. Buy generic and save even more!   Dry detergent might leave white streaks on your clothes if you use too much or don't dissolve it in the running water before putting clothes in, but it is more effective and cheaper.   Here is a guide to laundry for men: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/08/02/heading-out-on-your-own-day-2-how-to-do-laundry/

I have had both this ikea rack: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80242892/ and a rack like this: http://www.amazon.com/Household-Essentials-Folding-Clothes-Drying/dp/B003VYAGOC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_1 (Though for much cheaper from Target)  Both work great, though I think the second holds more.   Both fold flat and store well.

Honestly, though, if you are living in the small space of a dorm, it is probably worth it to dry most things in the dryer. Your room will be small.  It will be annoying to take up so much of the living space with a clothes rack if stuff won't dry overnight.  At least for towels, and sheets! 

And, dude, the reason your parents won't take your advice is apparently you don't even do your own laundry!  You should have been doing that when you were 13 or 14!  But good for you for figuring it out now! 

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 08:26:29 PM »
What gooki said.

The only thing I'd separate out anything is STRONG colors - reds and darks - as they will gunge up your lighter colors over time. But mostly, we do two piles: whites/lights and darks/reds. But I sometimes don't care, and will dump them all in as anything we've got that is red is so old that the dyes don't really leach out anymore.

I buy powdered detergent, usually Arm & Hammer or Purex depending on what is on sale, but store brands are also a good deal sometimes. Don't look at number of loads; compare weights to price to get the best deal, since the manufacturers are going to tell you to use WAY more soap than is really necessary. It is my understanding that liquid detergents mean you're paying more for water weight. Throw in the powder while the water is running and let the washer fill at least a third before adding the clothes so the powder dissolves and doesn't streak your clothes. It dissolves faster in warm water, but I use cold for energy savings, which you're not going to have to worry about, so probably you'd be good to use the warm water setting on everything.

If you have any stains, pre-treat. I do use "shout" but most of the time I've just made a paste out of the detergent with a little water and rubbed it into the stain and let it sit for an hour before I throw it in the wash. Best way to treat stains is to not get them - if you get anything on your clothes, rinse it immediately with cold water and a bit of soap - even hand soap is good to keep the stain from setting in. Wash on cold and check before throwing into the dryer as heat sets stains.

I do use borax in my wash, for really heavily soiled loads. One cup per load, and sometimes reduce the amount of soap a bit to compensate.

Don't go by the "recommended amounts." For lightly soiled clothes, I use much less soap. I never use a full scoop and usually it is under the halfway mark - too much soap and your clothes are getting clean, they're just getting choked with suds. It's usually pretty easy to figure out the minimum soap you can use and still get your clothes clean (hint: it's more about the agitation and water flow than amount of soap) This also means don't pack the washer so full that the clothes don't have room to move.

I like using the downy ball (fabric softener ball) but not with downy, tho. You can use any liquid fabric softener in there, but I use white vinegar (fill the ball up halfway) and then you don't have to remember to run back down there or hang out trying to catch the rinse cycle. The acid in white vinegar is too mild to harm fabrics, yet strong enough to dissolve the alkalies in soaps and detergents. Besides removing soap, white distilled vinegar prevents yellowing, acts as a fabric softener and static cling reducer, and attacks mold and mildew. I've rarely gotten a scent of vinegar after the clothes are dry, and that's just when I used a VERY heavy hand. Give things a good snap/shake and then hang/fold. Throw them in the dryer with a cheapy generic dryer sheet if you don't want to go the vinegar route, but you still might want to do it once a month for fabric softener/soap build-up removal.

Air drying in a dorm room is possible, but I wouldn't want to do it. You'll have damp clothes all over the room and it makes the room feel damp to me and depending on the temperature/humidity, it could take quite some time to dry. If you're only doing two loads a week, then the cost should be pretty minimal. You could also separate out the light fabrics to air dry - lightweight shirts underwear and sheets - and put the heavier fabrics like blankets and jeans into the dryer. I do imagine that having your underwear and socks strewn all over a shared area might be an interesting conversation starter, however. :D

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 06:03:30 AM »
Here's my old-fashioned laundry thread:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/share-your-badassity/laundry-the-old-fashioned-way/

Though honestly, with machines as cheap as 1.25 a load, I would totally just use them, get a drying rack and a box fan, and go to town.

If you're worried about colors running, add some white vinegar to the rinse.

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 06:14:01 AM »
Wherever you go with this, don't forget the axiom about being penny wise and pound foolish.  By all means, find ways to save where you can.  But at some point you could just deliver pizza a few hours a week and probably come out ahead for your troubles.  The best thing you can do at your age is avoid debt like the plague and get that degree.  Don't sweat saving a few bucks on the laundry.

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 06:44:09 AM »
second what hybrid said. for a single guy living in a dorm, no matter what you'll do, your laundry will be cheap. just buy some cheap detergent and use the washer/dryer like normal

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 07:39:28 AM »
It's also okay to wear things more than once. (I am not talking about workout clothes or undershorts, of course.) I see too many people washing jeans or shirts or towels after one use.  It's not necessary and wears the clothing out much faster.

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2013, 08:41:13 AM »
Wherever you go with this, don't forget the axiom about being penny wise and pound foolish.  By all means, find ways to save where you can.  But at some point you could just deliver pizza a few hours a week and probably come out ahead for your troubles.  The best thing you can do at your age is avoid debt like the plague and get that degree.  Don't sweat saving a few bucks on the laundry.

Debt is like your "hair is on fire."  :{D
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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2013, 08:54:58 AM »
It's also okay to wear things more than once. (I am not talking about workout clothes or undershorts, of course.) I see too many people washing jeans or shirts or towels after one use.  It's not necessary and wears the clothing out much faster.

For me, I can wear jeans and pants almost indefinitely, but shirts reek after only one use. Same with (cotton) socks. I figure towels can go for longer since you're essentially clean after you step out of a shower.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 09:02:33 AM by Zalo »

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 09:32:58 AM »
Agree with pp use the machines.  Your roomamtes will not like having your clothes drying in a small dorm room.  It is not worth the trouble or grief from your roomamtes.  You can use Shout sheets for colorbleed that allow you to throw all clothes together.  I tear the sheets into 3 and use them.  You don't need to use dryer sheets. 

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 09:52:31 AM »
Use the machines to wash for sure.  Yes, a single guy, probably not enough laundry that it will be a big expense.

I think it should be okay to dry on a rack, though.  Roomie may not like it, so ask him when it would be convenient (during the day?  Overnight?)

We have found that drying T-shirts on a rack, especially, makes them last longer.  They don't shrink as much and the dryer tends to put holes in them rather quickly.

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2013, 04:02:55 AM »
Why would a room mate care if you dry your clothes in your room? I'm sure they dry their clothes in their room too.

I separate fluffy & non-fluffy, but not colours :P

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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2013, 10:41:32 AM »
I live in a dorm--with a roommate--in Amherst, Massachusetts with washing machines at $1.25 a load, and drying machines at I-haven't-checked-the-prices-yet.

Washing laundry by hand is great, honestly, but it demands both space and equipment to do it.  Good equipment - a tub that you don't have to setup / put away, a wringer, and a clothesline that you don't have to take down after use - makes it easy.  Most of the people you hear on these message boards have at least some of these things.  You will have none of them in a dorm room.

Speaking as someone who lives in an small apartment with my fiancee (also of Moustachian bent), we both wash our clothes in washing machines and then hang them on a folding clothes rack to dry.  We regularly admit that this is an enormous pain in the ass and it crowds the apartment like no one's business.  But we're OK with it overall - it was something we tried on a whim, and overall we like how gentle it is on our clothes and the fact that we're not using huge amounts of energy to dry our clothes.  We overall like it, but we don't delude ourselves: it is a noticeable use of space and the decision to dry our clothes this way to save $1.25 per load pushes us into the realm of "crazy by the average American's standards".

I would seriously reconsider doing this.  As someone who was in college recently enough, you are likely to brand yourself as crazy (in the first few weeks of your freshman year) and seriously annoy your roommate, unless he is of the Moustachian bent as well.  Assuming washers and dryers are $1.25 each, and you do two loads of laundry per week, you could save something like $200 over the course of a 40 week school year.  This $200 will be saved by making your room crowded and very humid on certain days (unless your dorm has A/C).  Your roommate will likely be annoyed with this, over time.

TL; DR: You will save very, very, very little money doing this, and cause a great deal of annoyance.  Go optimize something else in your life - get a part time job in the library, or off-campus.  Saving $200 on laundry for the batshit crazy equipment and hassle your roommate will have to put up with in your 400 sq ft room is not worth it.  Maybe re-consider this when you move off campus, at which point you will have a lot more space (and probably your own room, as well).

...I figure towels can go for longer since you're essentially clean after you step out of a shower.

No.  See relevant Dilbert comic.  That is gross.  Wash them once per week or so.  Sheets and pillowcases need washing too.
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Re: College Student Laundry
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 12:37:29 PM »
As someone who was also recently a college student, I second the "don't brand yourself as crazy" idea. You may not care what people think, but you will both want and need friends or at least acquaintances. And you can't rely on finding fellow mustachian college students. They just aren't that common.

It's not entirely crazy to have a drying rack and dry certain things--girls do it all the time, possibly because we have more clothes that are air-dry only. I would actually reverse the advice you've gotten so far. Dry your heavy fabrics: jeans, sweatshirts, etc. which can sometimes take more than one dryer cycle (!) in your room, maybe even T-shirts. Just keep it to one rack in an inconspicuous corner, e.g. by your closet. Socks, underwear, towels, and linens def. belong in a dryer in college.

I would also look at how many clothes you have; you don't want to be wearing truly dirty (stained or smelly) clothing of course, and you don't want to be dependent on two pairs of pants so you immediately HAVE to do a load if one gets dirty, even if the load is half full. I think having enough to get you through until you have a full load is worthwhile. I haven't done the math (I invite you to do so), but I'm fairly certain it will save you $$ on laundry over the lifetime of the item(s). You can always downsize your closet after college when you aren't tied to the size of the dorm machines.

 

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