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How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« on: June 17, 2019, 10:21:20 AM »
Hi! I recently bought a new plug-in EV and this particular car qualifies for a federal tax credit of $4502, but that can only be applied to what you owe at the end of the year, so you need to owe at least that much to get the full benefit of the credit. I try to stay as close to $0 owed and $0 refunded as possible and last year I got a refund of $125 so I definitely need to adjust my exemptions so so I owe around $4500 at the end of the year. I'm just not sure how to figure out how many exemptions to claim? We also have a baby due in October, which I am assuming would impact it all as well. Here is some pertinent information:

Filing Status - married filing jointly

2018  Total Adjusted Income - $102,373
Est. 2019 Total Adjusted Income - $126,000

2018 Total Federal Withholding - $8,993
My withholding so far in 2019 - $3446 - unsure of DH's withholding so far

2018 Marginal Tax Bracket - $12%
2018 Effective Tax Bracket - $8%

Right now I am claiming 2 exemptions, and any adjustment will just come on my side. DH's HR department is crazy difficult to do anything with, he plans on quitting his job sometime between now and when the baby comes, and I make 2x what he does so any adjustment would have much more impact on my end anyway. 

Thank you for looking at this and for any advice you can provide!

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2019, 10:23:06 AM »
Oops - I thought I was in the taxes section and I just realized its in "Ask a Mustacian." New question - how do I go about asking the mods for this to be moved?

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 10:52:07 AM »
I don't think you physically need to owe that much, to get the nonrefundable credit. Your "total tax" liability just needs to be at least that much. That means you might not be able to get this credit if your other deductions and non-refundable credits bring your tax liability below  $4500. The easiest way to increase your tax liability would be to go Roth instead of traditional in your IRAs or 401k.

ETA the child tax credit is partially refundable so you could still have a negative tax liability after the $4500 credit.
 
« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 11:03:17 AM by MrsWolfeRN »

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2019, 10:56:53 AM »
I don't think you physically need to owe that much, to get the nonrefundable credit. Your "total tax" liability just needs to be at least that much.
That's my understanding as well. We're getting a credit due to buying solar panels this year. One of the qualifying questions was if our total tax liability will exceed the credit.

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2019, 11:17:08 AM »
Ok, that makes sense. Thank you! Everything I was reading was written like this:

"The federal incentive is usually referred to as a flat $7,500 credit, but it's only worth $7,500 to someone whose tax bill at the end of the year is $7,500 or more. Let's say you buy a Nissan Leaf or other eligible vehicle and you owe $5,000 in income tax for a particular year. That's all the tax credit will be. Uncle Sam's not writing a refund check for the other $2,500. And an unused portion of the credit can't be applied against the following year's taxes."

So I was interpreting that as I needed to "owe" an outstanding tax bill of $4500 at the end of the year, not that I just needed a tax liability of $4500.

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2019, 11:21:06 AM »
@economista, the above posters are correct.  You just have to have a federal tax liability that the EV credit can offset.

Take a look at your Form 1040 from last year.  The amount on line 11 is your tax liability.  The EV credit, if you had bought the car last year, would go on line 12 and be subtracted on line 13.  Notice the "if less than zero, enter zero" part on line 13.  That means that it's a use it or lose it credit.

The child tax credit has two parts to it.  Part of it also would go on line 12.  This part would be combined with the EV credit on your return this year and is also a use it or lose it credit.  The second part is refundable and would go on line 17, meaning you would get that money no matter what, even if you don't owe taxes.

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Just eyeballing things, if your tax withholding was ~$9K and you got a $125 refund, then you probably owed about $9K in taxes last year.  If your husband leaves his job this fall, that will lower your income a bit, which will lower your taxes owed a bit, but my guess would be that you'd still owe enough to get the full EV and CTC credits.

Roughly speaking, you'll owe $6,502 less in taxes in 2019.  An easy way to roughly estimate how to change your exemptions is to divide that $6,502 by the remaining number of paychecks this year.  Keep in mind that you might want to subtract one if your payroll department needs some lead time to make the change.  Take that amount and subtract it from whatever amount they're currently withholding from your paycheck to get your new target.  Then go to paycheckcity.com and use their calculators to see how many exemptions you'll need to claim in order to get close to that amount.  You can also enter an additional dollar amount per paycheck to withhold to gain finer control over your withholding if you want to dial it in that closely.

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2019, 11:39:11 AM »
Thank you @secondcor521 !

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Re: How many exemptions should I take on W2?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2019, 01:03:38 PM »
Est. 2019 Total Adjusted Income - $126,000

My withholding so far in 2019 - $3446 - unsure of DH's withholding so far

2018 Marginal Tax Bracket - $12%
2018 Effective Tax Bracket - $8%
Assuming
- "Adjusted Income" means "Adjusted Gross Income" (line 7 of https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf) all from W-2 earnings,
- $84K and $42K W-2 box 1 respectively,
- 1 child,
- standard deduction,
- $1114 DH withholding so far, based on "Married with 2 allowances" on DH's W-4 and the $42K income.
- $4502 EV credit,
- 50% of 2019 paychecks can be affected by a W-4 change now.

The case study spreadsheet suggests you could have "Married with 8 allowances" on your W-4 and come out about right.

If interested, you should probably download and enter your own numbers in case I fat-fingered something, or made an incorrect assumption.