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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2017, 05:20:23 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion Sun Hat but I think that would require a much longer commitment then I'd want to make (I really don't want to have any set plans or any commitments). Arebelspy had sent me a link about short term pet and house sitters (Trusted House Sitter I think ts called) that he used while travelling but most require longer stays and don't want you bringing your own pet. Great idea for others though.

Canada is definitely on the agenda (as is Alaska) if all goes well over the next few months. It was suppose to be my destination this fall but didn't make it (got side tracked by pretty mountains in the US ;-)). South and Central America and Mexico too might be doable once I see how it goes first in N. America.

I'll be interested to see what you decide to do, especially since our situations and desires are roughly similar. :) If you do head up towards Alaska next summer let me know. I've got a lovely rural property you can camp out at for free along the way.
  Think I'll end up doing the camper van thing. Easiest for lazy me and also easiest to  undo if too difficult with dog. Also can be very low budget once a small van is bought. It might be much harder for you having large multiple dogs (I just have one small one now who I can carry in a sling or pack or buggy/trailer).  You may want to continue trying it in your truck awhile longer before deciding to sell all your properties so you have a place yo come back too if things don't go as planned. I've spent much of the day looking at camper van porn online (and over at Retire_Canada journal) so getting an idea what will work best for me (small and simple). 
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »
Just an fyi, the little doggy trailers actually do work well if you like to walk a lot. Just pick wide trails. So if you have to go that route, it is an option (we have 2 12 year old pugs and they both go into the same trailer). It's also a great way of getting them some exercise without overdoing it (you don't have to keep them in the buggy the whole time). A lot of the trailers fold up easy which helps to.

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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2017, 07:12:42 PM »
Just chiming in, a little late, on international travel with a dog...I actually moved my dog to Europe when I was living there for about 2 years. I didn’t have anyone to keep her and I wasn’t taking her to a shelter! So I got paperwork from the vet, pet sedative for the flight (she’s small enough for in cabin) and it wasn’t too bad. When I came back stateside, I did the same in reverse.

It wasn’t a big deal really. Actually both times the paperwork I got was barely glanced at. Seriously. Arriving in EU I walk passed 6 customs officials who were chatting with each other with my dog in a carrier and paperwork in hand. US they weren’t really any more interested.

But I don’t think I’d do it for a gallivanting around trip. I was stationary for 2 years and I love my pooch.
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2017, 07:57:42 PM »
I can chime in with a more full response later, we're certainly nomadic/houseless/homeless, and live/travel out of an RV semi full time, alternating between fixed short term arrangements for weeks to months at a time. Two small children and two small dogs. As time goes on, we are definately shifting to more and more slow travel and alternating bits of camping with more luxurious arrangements in between.

The dogs make things more difficult from a logistics point of view (harder and more expensive to find accommodations, flights, etc) and the kids make things more difficult from a day to day point of view.

In terms of if shit hits the fan, one of the few just in case pieces of equipment we travel with is the dogs travel duffel bags, since they are small enough that we should be able to put them in the bags (unwillingly) and take them in a taxi or flight if needed. In case we have to abandon the motor home unexpectedly for some reason. Thankfully never had to exercise this option.

Being nomadic is interesting, in that we may stop, but then we don't know where we would settle, and we don't really want to stop. The reasons for stopping are mostly related to the small mammals: as the kids get older, they keep getting more energy and we get less. We also want to do more international travel occasionally, and think having a home base would make it easier to find dog sitters. Though it comes down to that tricky question of where would your home base be, when it could be anywhere.

At about the two to three month stay, I find I can get connected enough locally to stay involved. i.e. I bike around, and if I find some obvious deficiency in the bike infrastructure I can start bugging people to change it. I like being retired and bugging people so that works for me. The downside is you don't always get to see the long terms affects of things you are bugging people about.

Dating can also be hard, or non existent, even with stays of two to four months in length.
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2017, 09:02:07 PM »
Just an fyi, the little doggy trailers actually do work well if you like to walk a lot. Just pick wide trails. So if you have to go that route, it is an option (we have 2 12 year old pugs and they both go into the same trailer). It's also a great way of getting them some exercise without overdoing it (you don't have to keep them in the buggy the whole time). A lot of the trailers fold up easy which helps to.
Got one! They're great even though I feel abit "LAish" when I walk her.  Take her 4 wheeling all the time.
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2017, 09:18:11 PM »
I can chime in with a more full response later, we're certainly nomadic/houseless/homeless, and live/travel out of an RV semi full time, alternating between fixed short term arrangements for weeks to months at a time. Two small children and two small dogs. As time goes on, we are definately shifting to more and more slow travel and alternating bits of camping with more luxurious arrangements in between.

The dogs make things more difficult from a logistics point of view (harder and more expensive to find accommodations, flights, etc) and the kids make things more difficult from a day to day point of view.

In terms of if shit hits the fan, one of the few just in case pieces of equipment we travel with is the dogs travel duffel bags, since they are small enough that we should be able to put them in the bags (unwillingly) and take them in a taxi or flight if needed. In case we have to abandon the motor home unexpectedly for some reason. Thankfully never had to exercise this option.

Being nomadic is interesting, in that we may stop, but then we don't know where we would settle, and we don't really want to stop. The reasons for stopping are mostly related to the small mammals: as the kids get older, they keep getting more energy and we get less. We also want to do more international travel occasionally, and think having a home base would make it easier to find dog sitters. Though it comes down to that tricky question of where would your home base be, when it could be anywhere.

At about the two to three month stay, I find I can get connected enough locally to stay involved. i.e. I bike around, and if I find some obvious deficiency in the bike infrastructure I can start bugging people to change it. I like being retired and bugging people so that works for me. The downside is you don't always get to see the long terms affects of things you are bugging people about.

Dating can also be hard, or non existent, even with stays of two to four months in length.
Thanks CE. I've been following your journal since the beginning and know you've had some trials and tribulations with all the tiny mammals ;-). Glad you still enjoy it even if you do eventually decide to settle somewhere. Agreed that its hard to figure out where "where" should be though. I'll most likely end in a mountain ski town...somewhere... if travelling full time doesnt work out so at least have that part figured out. Not much else though.
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2017, 12:04:20 AM »
Thanks for the suggestion Sun Hat but I think that would require a much longer commitment then I'd want to make (I really don't want to have any set plans or any commitments). Arebelspy had sent me a link about short term pet and house sitters (Trusted House Sitter I think ts called) that he used while travelling but most require longer stays and don't want you bringing your own pet. Great idea for others though.

Canada is definitely on the agenda (as is Alaska) if all goes well over the next few months. It was suppose to be my destination this fall but didn't make it (got side tracked by pretty mountains in the US ;-)). South and Central America and Mexico too might be doable once I see how it goes first in N. America.

I'll be interested to see what you decide to do, especially since our situations and desires are roughly similar. :) If you do head up towards Alaska next summer let me know. I've got a lovely rural property you can camp out at for free along the way.
  Think I'll end up doing the camper van thing. Easiest for lazy me and also easiest to  undo if too difficult with dog. Also can be very low budget once a small van is bought. It might be much harder for you having large multiple dogs (I just have one small one now who I can carry in a sling or pack or buggy/trailer).  You may want to continue trying it in your truck awhile longer before deciding to sell all your properties so you have a place yo come back too if things don't go as planned. I've spent much of the day looking at camper van porn online (and over at Retire_Canada journal) so getting an idea what will work best for me (small and simple).  Currently trying it out in this (çomfy!) and storage underneath but not longterm.

Ya, larger dogs may be harder to manage nomadically. Luckily they are both great traveling. We haven't done as much truck camping as I'd hoped to this year and nothing long-term, but they did great while canoe camping! Some day I may get something bigger like a van, but no need just yet. And you are probably right about the properties. I may keep one house an extra year or two just in case, but ultimately I don't want to live in the city whether I'm nomadic or not.

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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2017, 04:32:21 AM »
On a not-entirely-unrelated note, there are lots of  "Girl + Dog + Van" accounts on the blogosphere and Instagram. They are very popular and get lots of followers. It's a very romanticized way of life and people seem to be fascinated with it. Perhaps a sponsorship is in the cards for you? :D
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« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2017, 08:26:55 AM »
On a not-entirely-unrelated note, there are lots of  "Girl + Dog + Van" accounts on the blogosphere and Instagram. They are very popular and get lots of followers. It's a very romanticized way of life and people seem to be fascinated with it. Perhaps a sponsorship is in the cards for you? :D
haha I think I'd be more "middle aged lady and dog in a van". Not quite the draw ;-). Maybe a family and friends blog but otherwise I'm pretty private and not very willing to share my RL self for all to see. Very happy that others do it though (like you) as those are the inspiration many of us need.
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2017, 10:08:57 AM »
Well I bought a van (the one I was renting so no fancy fully equipped camper van). So guess I'm doing the van camping thing ;-). Will try it out with my dog and  it will either be great or terrible. Likely somewhere in between.  Will take off once all the paperwork clears. Which will likely be in a day or two. WOOT!
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2017, 10:51:07 AM »
Well I bought a van (the one I was renting so no fancy fully equipped camper van). So guess I'm doing the van camping thing ;-). Will try it out with my dog and  it will either be great or terrible. Likely somewhere in between.  Will take off once all the paperwork clears. Which will likely be in a day or two. WOOT!
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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2017, 11:13:23 AM »
Well I bought a van (the one I was renting so no fancy fully equipped camper van). So guess I'm doing the van camping thing ;-). Will try it out with my dog and  it will either be great or terrible. Likely somewhere in between.  Will take off once all the paperwork clears. Which will likely be in a day or two. WOOT!

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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2017, 11:17:14 AM »
When we bought our used RV the couple gave us some advice. They said they made a big mistake when they sold everything because after a year they wanted to come home and had to re-buy house, etc.  Our motorhome is 27 ft and until recently we had 4 dogs. 3 small and one 80lb dog. WE went on a trip for a month and spent more $ then if we had stayed home. While it was fun I was done after a month.  2 people and all those dogs in that small of a space was enough for me.  Because we have a motorhome we can leave the dogs in it while we are gone.  WE have had small dogs that can barely walk but because of our situation it doesn't matter if we are in motorhome or a real home.   Maybe you can share the dog with your sister:))  Sort of what you are doing now. Lucky dog to have 2 people that love her that much.  Also after a month I missed family and friends.  I also missed our regular activities. I am more of a homebody. Now we take we vacations a year without dogs for 10 days each.  This year we did not go in the RV for more then a week.  I think it is much harder to live in such a small space. Ours does not have slide outs so everything is off a narrow hallway.  So it is difficult for both people to be standing/moving at the same time. Plus the big old guy likes to lay in the hallway and we have to step around him.   As our dogs naturally leave us we intend to only have 1 or 2 small dogs which will make things much easier. I have a rule that if I am cooking DH has to be out of the way and sitting.  Everything is tiny in that small of a space.  I also found it a challenge to keep things neat and organized. I have no problem in a house though. Part of it may be that DH is messy:))  The other thing with dogs is that without a yard every time you take them out to go potty they have to be on a leash.  At home I can just open the back door.

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Re: Full Time Nomads: How's That Going For You?
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2017, 09:35:40 PM »
Oh Cassie I'd go insane with 4 dogs in an RV.....noooooooo ;-). Good thing you tried it out before selling the house. At least now you can enjoy some part time trips. As you probably remember I always wanted to sell my house and move out of this area anyways the last couple of years but never went through with it.  So if it doesn't go as good as I hope I can find a nice little place in a cool town somewhere to live. So I'm good with that.
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« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2017, 10:24:03 PM »
Have fun on the road, Spartana.

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« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2017, 09:46:32 AM »
Have fun on the road, Spartana.
Thanks!

One of my concerns I just addressed in the Sprinter van thread. Anyone who's nomadic deal with this concern too or am I just being silly?



https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/fire-in-a-sprinter-van/msg1774736/#msg1774736

The "homeless by choice but with a big stash" thing will be hard for me as a single person. Selling the paid off house for a big chunk and having that money in non-retirement accounts makes me worried something will happen (law suit, medical issue, ID theft...) that will cause me to lose it all and then I'd go from "homefree to homeless". Not really worried as I have a big stash in retirement accounts but the paid off house was another leg of my safe FIRE.  My sister keeps trying to get me to but a small cabin at the local ski resort by her place as...you know...security. Doesn't have anything at all to do with her wanting to have a cheap place to ski or use year round while I travelled. She has offered to check on it...often ;-)."
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Spartana, I do remember that you wanted to sell your home regardless. Remember I promised you a good home cooked meal if you end up in  our area.  Your camper van would fit in our driveway:))  I think even without the dogs ours is too small for 2 people. Especially if one of those people is messy and I have to constantly pick up stuff or just give up and live in a mess.  Things get out of control quickly in such a small space.  The dogs love to go in the RV and get very excited. Since we bought it used and paid cash we intend to keep it for shorter trips.  I would never spend a bunch of $ on one of those things.