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dougules

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FI and Worker Treatment
« on: March 03, 2017, 11:31:24 AM »
If more people catch on to the idea of FI, would it change the dynamics of employers and workers?  Folks that are FI don't have to put up with BS.  Also, if people started dropping out in any significant numbers, wouldn't that give the people left more bargaining power even if they didn't have much FU money?  This is one of those hypothetical thought-experiment kind of questions, but I was just curious. 

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Re: FI and Worker Treatment
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 11:45:27 AM »
We make up such an insignificant portion of the population that I wouldn't imagine it making an impact.

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Re: FI and Worker Treatment
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 12:14:59 PM »
We make up such an insignificant portion of the population that I wouldn't imagine it making an impact.

Well yes, but I was saying hypothetically if it caught on a little more. 

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Re: FI and Worker Treatment
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2017, 12:39:48 PM »
I think it would really depend on the type of job.  Workers and employers are really just contractual agreements where there is an equity stake for both sides.  Employers need the workers in order to generate business, workers need the compensation.  If more workers were not in as much need of compensation, they would have more leverage, but I don't think there would be any great change, it's still a contract with (supposedly) equal stakes on both sides.

Personally I think some of the little abuses might go away (unfair schedules, small reprisals, etc), but no major changes.

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Re: FI and Worker Treatment
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2017, 02:40:20 PM »
Those with enough income to become FI usually enjoy a bit of autonomy in their work. I suppose if enough people discover frugality and RE than it will open more low BS jobs.  The lower level jobs will still come with plenty of BS.

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Re: FI and Worker Treatment
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2017, 03:25:04 PM »
This article shows what can happen at a small scale.  Lots of people FI in a short time can disrupt the business. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2017/02/13/google-waymo-cars-compensation-john-krafcik.html

"some of the staffers who exited were apparently frustrated by the car unitís pace of progress, while others had doubts about unit head John Krafcik."

It sounds like part of the problem was good ole BS.  I guess what I'm wondering is if employers would be forced to be friendlier if a significant chunk of the workforce were as mobile as Waymo's newly minted millionaires. 

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Re: FI and Worker Treatment
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2017, 04:00:08 PM »
This article shows what can happen at a small scale.  Lots of people FI in a short time can disrupt the business. 
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2017/02/13/google-waymo-cars-compensation-john-krafcik.html
I plan on becoming FI right about the time that the majority of government employees where I work will be eligible for their pensions.  I'm just hoping that I can beat them by a few months so I get the satisfaction.