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Scandium

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Conference paper and switching jobs
« on: April 06, 2016, 12:13:56 PM »
Wondering if anyone has experience with this; having a paper accepted to a scientific/industry conference then changing jobs before the conference? What would the procedure be?

Often the abstracts are due 6+ months out, but what happens if I leave my employer in the meantime? My paper would be work I did for the previous employer, so I can't imagine they being too keen on letting me keep it and present it. As I seem to constantly be somewhere in this process now I find it a little hard to determine when the best time is to look for another job. Just say screw it at don't worry about missing a conference? It's a free trip, but no time for sightseeing anyway so not really a huge draw.. 

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Re: Conference paper and switching jobs
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 07:47:43 PM »
We just have a colleague present the paper at the conference if the original author has left.  You'd still get credit as the author and could include it on your list of publications. Alternatively, you could choose to withdraw your paper if you do not want someone else presenting it.

Yeah, certainly don't sorry about missing a conference. It's small potatoes.

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Re: Conference paper and switching jobs
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 08:41:45 PM »
I've been in this exact situation.

Did you write the paper on your own time (and outside an employee agreement that would give ownership of the paper to your employer)?

Or did you write it as the property of your employer?

It makes a difference because, in the latter case, it's not YOUR paper, it's your employer's, and they get the say on whether it is released and by who.  You are still the author.

I make a point of making sure I maintain ownership of things I write for this very reason.  I usually get it in the job negotiations before I commit to the job.

Will your new employer get value out of you presenting a paper at a conference?  Will it help them sell consulting services?  Will the conference help train you so your skills are even more valuable?   If so, your new employer may be happy to pay for it.

In my case, I had a bad personal year my last year at the old employer.  My wife had an operation, my daughter had an operation, my son went to prison (with the associated legal bills for us), both cars died and the refrigerator died.   Needless to say, my funds were "tight".

My new employer was a consulting company so they were gung ho about me presenting the paper with their name and logo attached.  The conference was a month after I switched jobs.   I talked to them about it before joining them.

My credit cards were maxed and my ready cash had already been used up.  This was pretty early in my paying career so I didn't have much in the way of an emergency fund saved up. My wife was in school and not working.

So, my employer arranged for a buddy of his, who would be at the conference, to pay for my hotel.   He was also a travel agent and was able to get a really good rate, but he had to personally check in.   I was a bit nervous about it because two unrelated guys would be checking into this one bed hotel room.  Only I would be staying in the room, but how would that play out in the hotel check in process.

He was a bit nervous about it to.  We were standing in line at the hotel and both of us, in the same moment, realized, "Hey!  This is San Francisco!  No one will care!"


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Re: Conference paper and switching jobs
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 09:21:03 PM »
Interesting point about ownership. Written on my own time (but we're "encouraged to.. One of bullshit things making me want to leave), but using company resources and based on projects. So pretty sure they'll claim ownership. I just get it on my resume. Which hopefully let me get hired somewhere else. Win win..?

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Re: Conference paper and switching jobs
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2016, 06:04:48 AM »
In the USA, unless you have a work for hire agreement, or an employment agreement to the contrary, anything your write is yours, even if on company time.