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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #400 on: April 29, 2017, 11:40:04 AM »
I'm with Spork. WHATEVER WORKS when it comes to getting babies their rest (and their momma's some ear rest too).

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« Reply #401 on: April 30, 2017, 04:41:41 AM »
Was helping a neighbor friend move some furniture last weekend.

At some point in the afternoon his wife announced that she was going to take their 1-year-old baby for a drive to help the baby fall asleep for her nap. This is their regular alternative when the baby won't go down on her own in the crib.

Off she went in their heavily-financed clown SUV...she was gone for 2 hours, driving around town the whole time.

Now, I won't profess to know anything much about child-raising...but I could only imagine what MMM would say about this...

I know absolutely zero about child raising...  And having seen a few new-mom nieces that have had 8 hours of cumulative sleep in the last month: I would probably forgive anything short of murder in those situations.

Husband's parents did this with him (minus the SUV and car loan). He didn't sleep through the night once till he was three. Prior to that, my FiL would either put him in the pram and push him around their town till the early hours, or put him in the car and drive till he fell asleep. My husband is the ultimate Car Guy with all that it entails, so I joke that it didn't influence him at all...

(You would think my in-laws share this story to talk about how hard those early years were. Nope. My mother would have put me up for adoption if it was me, but they adored him, their perfect first-born.)

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #402 on: April 30, 2017, 10:28:47 AM »
We've found that a good alternative to the long dive is to set the baby and car seat on a running clothes dryer. You get the same sound and vibration that way, without spending a bunch on gasoline :)

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #403 on: April 30, 2017, 10:57:55 PM »
We've found that a good alternative to the long dive is to set the baby and car seat on a running clothes dryer. You get the same sound and vibration that way, without spending a bunch on gasoline :)

Another thing a clothes line won't do for you. (But the mental image is good.)
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #404 on: May 01, 2017, 04:59:00 AM »
My neighbor is attempting to sell his house for $250k, but it's probably only worth about $230k. Went on the market Friday, so we'll see how that turns out. It may end up being on the market for a while.

Haha same here - my neighbors have had their house for sale since last April for about 260 when it's worth a little closer to 210. They simultaneously advertised it for rent since around June of last year for $1800 when $1200-1300 is the going rate too. The prices are so high since they bought it before the bubble & so "that's what it's worth". Shockingly, there hasn't been any interest.

The place is under contract, I think. Not sure what they got for a price, though. I'll know once it closes in a month.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #405 on: May 01, 2017, 10:28:31 AM »
I'm with Spork. WHATEVER WORKS when it comes to getting babies their rest (and their momma's some ear rest too).

While I generally agree with this, I think the criticism is really on the financed SUV. That, and/or trying *any* lower cost alternative to that wasteful habit.

(Thanks zolotiyeruki for the dryer idea. We try not to use our dryer too often, but I'll save the next dryer washload for an evening and see if I can sync those 2 things up)
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #406 on: May 01, 2017, 11:04:19 AM »
I'm with Spork. WHATEVER WORKS when it comes to getting babies their rest (and their momma's some ear rest too).

While I generally agree with this, I think the criticism is really on the financed SUV. That, and/or trying *any* lower cost alternative to that wasteful habit.

(Thanks zolotiyeruki for the dryer idea. We try not to use our dryer too often, but I'll save the next dryer washload for an evening and see if I can sync those 2 things up)

The electrical usage should be a lot less without the heating options on but you would still get the same vibration/noise.  With the different plug/voltage you cant use a normal watt meter to compare but some google-foo might answer it easy enough.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #407 on: May 02, 2017, 09:27:56 PM »
The electrical usage should be a lot less without the heating options on but you would still get the same vibration/noise.  With the different plug/voltage you cant use a normal watt meter to compare but some google-foo might answer it easy enough.

Exactly. I havent looked it up but it seems common sense that it would be a lower operating cost than driving a car around. And to be honest, safer too.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #408 on: May 03, 2017, 12:42:05 PM »
When I returned home from my bike ride yesterday afternoon (yea me!) I saw what looked like some kind of Christmas decoration in the yard of the new neighbors on the corner of my street. It was some kind of flashing bright white light, quite visible even at 6 p.m. on a bright May day, surrounded by mist. I got closer and realized it is a "sprinkler" with a bright LED light. A couple of details to make this even more ridiculous: 1. This is Houston, which averages around 44 inches of rain each year, making it a borderline tropical rain forest. 2. We just got some rain in the last few days. 3. Heavy rain is forecast for today (we already had a couple of small downpours). I water my grass about once every five years. 4. This "sprinkler" tosses the water in the air, turning much of it to mist which is carried away in the wind.  They must be thinking, "how can I dispose of more natural resources faster?"  Naturally, a giant new pickup sits on the street in front of the house despite the three-car attached garage--likely full of more vehicles.

Another house in our neighborhood parks three pickups, a large SUV and a VW Beetle in their drive (actually, they have taken to parking one of the trucks on the vacant lot next door--classy). Who the fuck needs that much hauling capacity??
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #409 on: May 03, 2017, 02:11:32 PM »
... Naturally, a giant new pickup sits on the street in front of the house despite the three-car attached garage--likely full of more vehicles.

Another house in our neighborhood parks three pickups, a large SUV and a VW Beetle in their drive (actually, they have taken to parking one of the trucks on the vacant lot next door--classy). Who the fuck needs that much hauling capacity??
How long have you lived in Houston?  I was there for 6 years.  Given the typical lack of storage space, it's more likely that their garage is filled with "stuff."  Ours wasn't--one bay was for the car, the other functioned as my shop along with bikes/lawn mowers/etc.  But I have a couple brothers who almost never parked their cars in the garage because it was full of the kind of stuff that you'd put in a basement if you lived further north.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #410 on: May 03, 2017, 02:46:15 PM »
On Nextdoor one of my neighbors just listed a Chanel purse for sale.  Never been used.  She says it retails for $3000 and wants someone to buy it from her for $2000.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #411 on: May 03, 2017, 04:14:32 PM »
Another house in our neighborhood parks three pickups, a large SUV and a VW Beetle in their drive (actually, they have taken to parking one of the trucks on the vacant lot next door--classy). Who the fuck needs that much hauling capacity??

Sounds like my inlaw's neighbors. They bought a place in a zero lot line type development. Driveway is barely long enough for two modest vehicles end to end. Neighbor had four expensive 4WD vehicles parked all over - street, garage, driveway, etc. Often had visitors too with more 4WDs and muscle cars.

They just don't physically fit in the neighborhood. I hear that now just a year after buying the place they are looking for something else. Nice folks, just needs 2 acres of parking.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #412 on: May 05, 2017, 07:55:49 PM »
It really depends on the home and the neighborhood.  I say that sitting in my home that was once on the site of another home.  Some might say it's too big for my 40x110ft lot.  But at least my town is building things of "normal size."  600 sq ft ranches are being replaced with 1500-2000 sq ft 2 stories.  Some of the ranches are having their roofs torn off and the base taken down to the studs with a 2nd floor added on but a lot of that has to do with if the foundation is still ok and many aren't.  When they are getting renovated things such as energy efficient windows, heaters and insulation are added.  The 600 sq ft house would likely have been enough for me but I'm happy with my mini McMansion.

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« Reply #413 on: May 05, 2017, 11:46:26 PM »
It really depends on the home and the neighborhood.  I say that sitting in my home that was once on the site of another home.  Some might say it's too big for my 40x110ft lot.  But at least my town is building things of "normal size."  600 sq ft ranches are being replaced with 1500-2000 sq ft 2 stories.  Some of the ranches are having their roofs torn off and the base taken down to the studs with a 2nd floor added on but a lot of that has to do with if the foundation is still ok and many aren't.  When they are getting renovated things such as energy efficient windows, heaters and insulation are added.  The 600 sq ft house would likely have been enough for me but I'm happy with my mini McMansion.

Responding to follow.  Also wondering if there is an agreed upon list of criteria for what constitutes a McMansion.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #414 on: May 06, 2017, 04:37:49 PM »
Quote from: accountingteacher link=topic=64578.msg1541812#msg1541812   Also wondering if there is an agreed upon list of criteria for what constitutes a McMansion.
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Well that's a relief.  There are definitely McMansions in my neighbourhood but I don't, apparently, live in one. 

I'm not sure that an attached double garage is so unreasonable, as long as they're used for cars and not crap.  Not having to scrape my windshield or warm up the car in the winter saves me at least 20 minutes in the morning, and (according to my dad) extends the life of the vehicles (currently 8 & 9 years, 120,000 & 160,000 km.)  It's actually the main reason we moved from our 1 garage townhouse.

We've been shocked though (and annoyed) by the # of neighbours who park 3-4 cars per family on the road because their garages are stuffed and their driveways are for hockey and basketball nets even though the houses all back on to a huge municipal park.  I don't get how someone thinks their default parking spot should be directly in front of my house. Sometimes I park there just to make a point.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #415 on: May 08, 2017, 03:42:36 PM »
No fence because apartment building, but still antiMustachian. Walked out to see that the neighbor two doors down had a TideSpin (laundry service) bag outside her door. I won't say I haven't considered it myself because I hate laundry (especially folding), but I don't think I'd actually pay somebody to do my laundry and deliver it.


I would have some sympathy if she was a single mom or something, but there's only one family with kids on my floor, and it isn't hers. I don't know maybe she has an injury or something? (We have a drycleaning service in our building, so that's not the reason.)
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #416 on: May 08, 2017, 06:40:18 PM »
No fence because apartment building, but still antiMustachian. Walked out to see that the neighbor two doors down had a TideSpin (laundry service) bag outside her door. I won't say I haven't considered it myself because I hate laundry (especially folding), but I don't think I'd actually pay somebody to do my laundry and deliver it.


I would have some sympathy if she was a single mom or something, but there's only one family with kids on my floor, and it isn't hers. I don't know maybe she has an injury or something? (We have a drycleaning service in our building, so that's not the reason.)

She could have an invisible disability (there are certain things I cannot do for myself, but you'd never know from looking at me).

But it's much more likely she's just engaging in antimustachian behaviour :-P

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #417 on: May 08, 2017, 07:55:37 PM »
No fence because apartment building, but still antiMustachian. Walked out to see that the neighbor two doors down had a TideSpin (laundry service) bag outside her door. I won't say I haven't considered it myself because I hate laundry (especially folding), but I don't think I'd actually pay somebody to do my laundry and deliver it.


I would have some sympathy if she was a single mom or something, but there's only one family with kids on my floor, and it isn't hers. I don't know maybe she has an injury or something? (We have a drycleaning service in our building, so that's not the reason.)

She could have an invisible disability (there are certain things I cannot do for myself, but you'd never know from looking at me).

But it's much more likely she's just engaging in antimustachian behaviour :-P
She could have a visible disability! I've never seen her. But I've been trying to be better about giving people the benefit of the doubt when I encounter "stupid" behavior instead of jumping straight to judge mode.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #418 on: May 09, 2017, 07:30:00 PM »
No fence because apartment building, but still antiMustachian. Walked out to see that the neighbor two doors down had a TideSpin (laundry service) bag outside her door. I won't say I haven't considered it myself because I hate laundry (especially folding), but I don't think I'd actually pay somebody to do my laundry and deliver it.


I would have some sympathy if she was a single mom or something, but there's only one family with kids on my floor, and it isn't hers. I don't know maybe she has an injury or something? (We have a drycleaning service in our building, so that's not the reason.)

When I lived in NYC, I dropped my clothes off at the laundry mat and had them wash and fold.  The $5 or so premium every other week vs spending 2 hours there myself was worth it.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #419 on: May 10, 2017, 05:49:09 AM »
I happened to be "stalking" my neighbor behind my house.  His house is for sale and mine is about to be.  We both have houses approximately the same size built by the same builder.  Trying to figure out how realistic his price is.

The Antimustacian part. 

I mention I'm being transferred to another city. 

He has gotten a promotion so is going to move to a much more expensive suburb.  So he's moving just to pay more for a house.

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« Reply #420 on: May 18, 2017, 03:18:13 PM »
When I returned home from my bike ride yesterday afternoon (yea me!) I saw what looked like some kind of Christmas decoration in the yard of the new neighbors on the corner of my street. It was some kind of flashing bright white light, quite visible even at 6 p.m. on a bright May day, surrounded by mist. I got closer and realized it is a "sprinkler" with a bright LED light. A couple of details to make this even more ridiculous: 1. This is Houston, which averages around 44 inches of rain each year, making it a borderline tropical rain forest. 2. We just got some rain in the last few days. 3. Heavy rain is forecast for today (we already had a couple of small downpours). I water my grass about once every five years. 4. This "sprinkler" tosses the water in the air, turning much of it to mist which is carried away in the wind.  They must be thinking, "how can I dispose of more natural resources faster?"  Naturally, a giant new pickup sits on the street in front of the house despite the three-car attached garage--likely full of more vehicles.

Another house in our neighborhood parks three pickups, a large SUV and a VW Beetle in their drive (actually, they have taken to parking one of the trucks on the vacant lot next door--classy). Who the fuck needs that much hauling capacity??

OK, this is a pretty late response, but if your area really gets that much rainfall, how does using the sprinkler really waste resources?  Wouldn't your reservoirs all be full and running off into the ocean?

I don't get the LED though.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #421 on: May 18, 2017, 07:12:56 PM »
^I think the point is that with all that rainfall, the grass shouldn't need that much watering.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #422 on: May 18, 2017, 07:27:52 PM »
OK, this is a pretty late response, but if your area really gets that much rainfall, how does using the sprinkler really waste resources?  Wouldn't your reservoirs all be full and running off into the ocean?
Some flat areas don't have reservoirs (see the Midwest and Southeast US).

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« Reply #423 on: May 18, 2017, 08:01:54 PM »
When I returned home from my bike ride yesterday afternoon (yea me!) I saw what looked like some kind of Christmas decoration in the yard of the new neighbors on the corner of my street. It was some kind of flashing bright white light, quite visible even at 6 p.m. on a bright May day, surrounded by mist. I got closer and realized it is a "sprinkler" with a bright LED light. A couple of details to make this even more ridiculous: 1. This is Houston, which averages around 44 inches of rain each year, making it a borderline tropical rain forest. 2. We just got some rain in the last few days. 3. Heavy rain is forecast for today (we already had a couple of small downpours). I water my grass about once every five years. 4. This "sprinkler" tosses the water in the air, turning much of it to mist which is carried away in the wind.  They must be thinking, "how can I dispose of more natural resources faster?"  Naturally, a giant new pickup sits on the street in front of the house despite the three-car attached garage--likely full of more vehicles.

Another house in our neighborhood parks three pickups, a large SUV and a VW Beetle in their drive (actually, they have taken to parking one of the trucks on the vacant lot next door--classy). Who the fuck needs that much hauling capacity??

OK, this is a pretty late response, but if your area really gets that much rainfall, how does using the sprinkler really waste resources?  Wouldn't your reservoirs all be full and running off into the ocean?

I don't get the LED though.

Waste of the energy and effort to purify that water to drinking standards and pump it to the location, even if you had an infinite reservoir.

In this particular case, Houston is thirsty enough that a significant fraction of their drinking water was "previously owned" (Heh. Flush!) by someone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_River_(Texas)#/media/File:Trinity_Watershed.png
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #424 on: May 19, 2017, 09:59:55 AM »
I think it's a toy for kids to play with.  I could understand an LED for that...

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #425 on: May 19, 2017, 11:59:38 AM »
OK, this is a pretty late response, but if your area really gets that much rainfall, how does using the sprinkler really waste resources?  Wouldn't your reservoirs all be full and running off into the ocean?
Some flat areas don't have reservoirs (see the Midwest and Southeast US).

Waste of the energy and effort to purify that water to drinking standards and pump it to the location, even if you had an infinite reservoir.

In this particular case, Houston is thirsty enough that a significant fraction of their drinking water was "previously owned" (Heh. Flush!) by someone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_River_(Texas)#/media/File:Trinity_Watershed.png

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« Reply #427 on: May 19, 2017, 02:39:39 PM »

Around here we only drink the finest melted sierra snowpack.

Uh huh.

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« Reply #428 on: May 20, 2017, 06:49:13 AM »
^excellent reference DragonCar. From that, I'm pretty sure we know the solution is to get rid of the sprinkler altogether and just spray them with Brawndo- it's what plants crave!
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« Reply #429 on: May 20, 2017, 12:24:56 PM »
^excellent reference DragonCar. From that, I'm pretty sure we know the solution is to get rid of the sprinkler altogether and just spray them with Brawndo- it's what plants crave!

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #430 on: July 04, 2017, 08:37:56 PM »
My neighbor, who is on welfare disability (for something physical) did something crazy again. He caught up to his rent (after taking legal action against the bank), then fell behind a month because he had ignored at least three Hydro bills. They took money out of his new bank account. It's possible they sued him.

My building is rent-controlled and the tenants want to raise rent more than the guidelines. They do this every year. To be fair they have expenses, and a lot of neighbors are acting paranoid. They say they deliberately paid for expensive services so they could boost the rent, which makes little sense, since they don't get to keep any of that extra money. Unless they're in cahoots, but there's no proof.

Many building residents are seniors on "fixed income" or welfare. Normal rate increases keep pace with seniors' fixed income but outpaces that of those on welfare. Above-rate increases, of course, make it harder even on seniors. The buildings are old and need lots of maintenance (which naturally neighbors complain they aren't getting). There are legitimate complaints on both sides.

Some of my neighbors are participating in a rent strike. A lawyer has been telling them they can get away with not paying rent for three months, even if they get an eviction notice. Ontario rules are so tenant-favored that this advice might be accurate (though not "good advice"). The landlord promised not to punish the rent strikers, which I'm sure will bite them in the rear because some of their tenants will spend the money rather than save it.

So my irresponsible neighbor is "pretending" to participate in the rent strike. I saw him coming back from the grocery store today. I have no idea how he carried all that stuff (at least twelve full-sized plastic bags, not exaggerating), since he didn't have a cart. A taxi? Uber? Given his health issues, there's no way he carried all that by himself. He bought a lot of stuff on sale, but he also bought a lot of luxuries like pineapples. He's even buying treats for my dogs (nice, but not necessary, as I'm gainfully employed and he knows that). He also offered my mother $20 to wash his dishes. While my mother is a poor senior on "fixed income", she is clearly better off than him.

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« Reply #431 on: July 05, 2017, 05:03:01 AM »
My neighbour's new solar panels are still standing in his other neighbour's garage for the second summer in a row. I don't understand it. Maybe he is waiting until he has saved enough money to buy a Tesla wall, as he is a major Tesla fan.

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« Reply #432 on: July 05, 2017, 03:51:36 PM »
He also offered my mother $20 to wash his dishes. While my mother is a poor senior on "fixed income", she is clearly better off than him.

She should take him up on the offer. Might accelerate his departure.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #433 on: July 06, 2017, 02:47:38 AM »
I happened to be "stalking" my neighbor behind my house.  His house is for sale and mine is about to be.  We both have houses approximately the same size built by the same builder.  Trying to figure out how realistic his price is.

The Antimustacian part. 

I mention I'm being transferred to another city. 

He has gotten a promotion so is going to move to a much more expensive suburb.  So he's moving just to pay more for a house.

Can you find a developer who might want to combine both blocks and build terraces/townhouses on them?

You could get a premium for selling together.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #434 on: July 06, 2017, 06:36:25 AM »
We've found that a good alternative to the long dive is to set the baby and car seat on a running clothes dryer. You get the same sound and vibration that way, without spending a bunch on gasoline :)

 We did the dryer thing, I also used to set my daughters rocker in front of the TV with MTV on, she would settle right down. That was 25 years ago, when MTV was constant music videos, (for you youngsters).
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #435 on: July 06, 2017, 08:06:02 AM »
There is a neighbor in my condo complex (one of the ones I don't know/talk to) who drives a 4-door porsche. We live in a condo complex where even the largest unit is ~2,000 sq ft. I can only surmise 1 of 2 options explains it:
1. He is a consumer sukka member of the clown commuting club.
2. He is already FI, and this is his "indulgence" purchase?

Either way, a 4-door porsche? Why not get a real one?
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #436 on: July 06, 2017, 08:49:04 AM »
There is a neighbor in my condo complex (one of the ones I don't know/talk to) who drives a 4-door porsche. We live in a condo complex where even the largest unit is ~2,000 sq ft. I can only surmise 1 of 2 options explains it:
1. He is a consumer sukka member of the clown commuting club.
2. He is already FI, and this is his "indulgence" purchase?

Either way, a 4-door porsche? Why not get a real one?

My MPP: I don't know enough about porsche's to know why a 4-door one is odd?

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #437 on: July 06, 2017, 08:52:50 AM »
We've found that a good alternative to the long dive is to set the baby and car seat on a running clothes dryer. You get the same sound and vibration that way, without spending a bunch on gasoline :)

 We did the dryer thing, I also used to set my daughters rocker in front of the TV with MTV on, she would settle right down. That was 25 years ago, when MTV was constant music videos, (for you youngsters).
 :-)

Lol, so the three solutions proposed on this forum now are an SUV, an electric dryer and a TV (with a cable channel). A Mustachian would be against all three of these! I don't even have kids or know anything about this, but I just thought that was funny.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #438 on: July 06, 2017, 09:12:47 AM »
There is a neighbor in my condo complex (one of the ones I don't know/talk to) who drives a 4-door porsche. We live in a condo complex where even the largest unit is ~2,000 sq ft. I can only surmise 1 of 2 options explains it:
1. He is a consumer sukka member of the clown commuting club.
2. He is already FI, and this is his "indulgence" purchase?

Either way, a 4-door porsche? Why not get a real one?
I'm assuming it is the Panamera. That is a fine family performance vehicle, when under warranty. I have driven one, but I ain't owning one.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #439 on: July 06, 2017, 10:14:14 AM »

Another house in our neighborhood parks three pickups, a large SUV and a VW Beetle in their drive (actually, they have taken to parking one of the trucks on the vacant lot next door--classy). Who the fuck needs that much hauling capacity??

For a second I thought you were in my hood. We park three cars on the driveway, two being small SUVs and one being a '71 Super Beetle.

If you were not car savvy you would think we were paying for two car notes plus the extra beetle. I have a '04 Saturn VUE with 158k miles, which I keep clean and could pass for a newer truck with a payment.  I paid cash for it over 4yrs ago and love the squareness of it which helps when getting building materials from the home reno stores.

My wife drives an '11 KIA Sportage that we bought new with the plan of selling it to our 4yo son, he wasn't even born then, when he turns 16yo. By then the truck will be 17-18yo and then we may get an electric car for her. The truck has been paid for for over 2 years and everyone is always asking her when she's going to trade it in. F that!

The '71 Super Beetle is my connection to my father who passed away last year and was an avid beetle fan. I enjoy the peace it gives me when I work on it and drive it.  But yeah, a few SUVs and a beetle would seem a bit much but it works for us. But your neighbors, I would imagine, are in a different position ;)
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #440 on: July 06, 2017, 10:48:23 AM »
...Panamera...is a fine family performance vehicle, when under warranty. I have driven one, but I ain't owning one.

Exactly, I don't see a legitimate (and especially a mustachian) reason you would need a family performance vehicle. Also, everytime I've seen the owner driving by, he has no one else in the car with him. Which means he isn't even using it as a family car.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #441 on: July 06, 2017, 03:05:35 PM »
...Panamera...is a fine family performance vehicle, when under warranty. I have driven one, but I ain't owning one.

Exactly, I don't see a legitimate (and especially a mustachian) reason you would need a family performance vehicle. Also, everytime I've seen the owner driving by, he has no one else in the car with him. Which means he isn't even using it as a family car.
I've seen several in my area, on weekends, with backseat passengers.
A mustachian most probably does not need a family performance vehicle. But a mustachian is a statistical outlier. That vehicle, along with the Audi S7, is for the poseur family.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #442 on: July 06, 2017, 05:40:30 PM »
...Panamera...is a fine family performance vehicle, when under warranty. I have driven one, but I ain't owning one.

Exactly, I don't see a legitimate (and especially a mustachian) reason you would need a family performance vehicle. Also, everytime I've seen the owner driving by, he has no one else in the car with him. Which means he isn't even using it as a family car.

If used responsibly, it is safer to be in a big car during collisions.  But big cars have crap acceleration.  Also used responsibly, big cars with good maneuverability, acceleration, and stopping power (i.e. "performance") are safer.  So if you really want to be very safe, a performance family car can make sense.  There are probably cheaper ways to be equally safe, but compared to, say, a 20 year old Caravan, you're gonna have a good time.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #443 on: July 07, 2017, 06:51:14 AM »
...Panamera...is a fine family performance vehicle, when under warranty. I have driven one, but I ain't owning one.

Exactly, I don't see a legitimate (and especially a mustachian) reason you would need a family performance vehicle. Also, everytime I've seen the owner driving by, he has no one else in the car with him. Which means he isn't even using it as a family car.

If used responsibly, it is safer to be in a big car during collisions.  But big cars have crap acceleration.  Also used responsibly, big cars with good maneuverability, acceleration, and stopping power (i.e. "performance") are safer.  So if you really want to be very safe, a performance family car can make sense.  There are probably cheaper ways to be equally safe, but compared to, say, a 20 year old Caravan, you're gonna have a good time.
It is safer for you to be in a big car during collisions, but not the other guy.  If everyone drove smaller cars, everyone would be safer.  But I guess I can't get everyone to drive smaller cars.  Since there are so many SUVs and trucks here, I can understand getting something bigger to defend yourself, but it's a race to the biggest, which isn't a good race in the long term IMO.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #444 on: July 07, 2017, 07:18:16 PM »
I happened to be "stalking" my neighbor behind my house.  His house is for sale and mine is about to be.  We both have houses approximately the same size built by the same builder.  Trying to figure out how realistic his price is.

The Antimustacian part. 

I mention I'm being transferred to another city. 

He has gotten a promotion so is going to move to a much more expensive suburb.  So he's moving just to pay more for a house.

Can you find a developer who might want to combine both blocks and build terraces/townhouses on them?

You could get a premium for selling together.

Not an option in the neighborhood.  They are new builds (both are less than 5 years old).  While our town is working on adding in multifamily housing options in appropriate areas, our lots are going to stay single family for a long time.

But I don't care because my place is pending for basically asking and slightly more than I expected.  His (I think he overpriced it) has had a first reduction in price and I haven't talked to him since it happened.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #445 on: July 08, 2017, 03:35:54 PM »
My neighbour's new solar panels are still standing in his other neighbour's garage for the second summer in a row. I don't understand it. Maybe he is waiting until he has saved enough money to buy a Tesla wall, as he is a major Tesla fan.

Does the neighbor who has the panels in his garage get rent? I wouldn't let anyone store solar panels long term in my garage unless they were paying me to use the space. They're not exactly tiny.
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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #446 on: July 11, 2017, 04:27:24 AM »
My neighbour's new solar panels are still standing in his other neighbour's garage for the second summer in a row. I don't understand it. Maybe he is waiting until he has saved enough money to buy a Tesla wall, as he is a major Tesla fan.

Does the neighbor who has the panels in his garage get rent? I wouldn't let anyone store solar panels long term in my garage unless they were paying me to use the space. They're not exactly tiny.

No, they are best friends.
But like you, I wouldn't allow for this as a permanent solution either.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #447 on: July 12, 2017, 02:54:39 PM »
My neighbour's new solar panels are still standing in his other neighbour's garage for the second summer in a row. I don't understand it. Maybe he is waiting until he has saved enough money to buy a Tesla wall, as he is a major Tesla fan.

Does the neighbor who has the panels in his garage get rent? I wouldn't let anyone store solar panels long term in my garage unless they were paying me to use the space. They're not exactly tiny.

No, they are best friends.
But like you, I wouldn't allow for this as a permanent solution either.

I can't see myself allowing any friends, besties or not, to do this for that long without some sort of agreement. With stuff that is expensive and can be broken I wouldn't want to be held liable for any damages. Right now my company's warehouse has a ton of space that we aren't using.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #448 on: July 14, 2017, 12:19:37 PM »
We have a neighbor that has a huge RV in their driveway. We have lived in our home for just over a year now. The RV has not moved once. I did see someone going in and out of it the other day though, so maybe they're going to actually use it.

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Re: Overheard over the fence (Antimustachian neighbours)
« Reply #449 on: July 14, 2017, 12:27:05 PM »
We have a neighbor that has a huge RV in their driveway. We have lived in our home for just over a year now. The RV has not moved once. I did see someone going in and out of it the other day though, so maybe they're going to actually use it.

In my experience many people use them more for extra storage than anything. They are a good excuse to have extra sets of dishes/sheets/cutlery/cookware/etc...