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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20450 on: July 09, 2018, 03:01:23 AM »
I'm also an intellectual. In fact, my favorite movies are zombie movies."

But ... wha.... but... *facepalm*

I'm an academic. That makes me kind of an intellectual, right? Also like zombie movies. Of course, I don't go around proclaiming that I'm an intellectual. I do go around proclaiming that I like zombie movies.

I just love that this individual dropped that after talking about how gold was the only investment to make. Like he clearly felt a zombie apocalypse would be coming, and somehow him and his gold would survive it...but only because of the gold.

Ha, I read that as zombie movies being proof of his intellectism. They're definitely proof of mine.... [sad face]

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20451 on: July 09, 2018, 03:36:18 AM »
My 10-years older co-irker picked up a brand new ~$35,000 car today! I told him while thinking about new cars is always fun, I am frugal and plan to drive my 13-year old Toyota another 200,000 miles. He said when I am older(!) and successful(!!!) I will want a new car. I chuckled to myself.

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« Reply #20452 on: July 09, 2018, 07:49:42 AM »
Coworker is struggling to find a storage space big and cheap enough for their budget - their garage is going to be renovated so everything inside it has to be put somewhere else. The two cars they have have never seen the inside of that garage. What's inside then? The daughter's clothes, all of them, from age 0 to now 16, books that are not fitting inside the house (and there are full shelves Everywhere), and old sentimental items that are clearly not sentimental enough for them to really take care of them. They are being left to be eaten by mice, but nothing can be thrown away unless rendered completely useless/eaten up.

She says they have found something that will hold everything for $110 per month.. Oh well, not too bad for like a month or two I say.. Oh no, she says, we have to keep it for over a year! And then, of course, it will all go back into the newly renovated garage..

They got a new car last month too.. Fancypants fast a-lot-of-horsepower bought from the dealer that she uses to go to work. How far does she live from work? 1 mile exactly. She doesn't like bicycles.

I just smile and nod.

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« Reply #20453 on: July 09, 2018, 08:13:31 AM »
Coworker is struggling to find a storage space big and cheap enough for their budget - their garage is going to be renovated so everything inside it has to be put somewhere else. The two cars they have have never seen the inside of that garage. What's inside then? The daughter's clothes, all of them, from age 0 to now 16, books that are not fitting inside the house (and there are full shelves Everywhere), and old sentimental items that are clearly not sentimental enough for them to really take care of them. They are being left to be eaten by mice, but nothing can be thrown away unless rendered completely useless/eaten up.

She says they have found something that will hold everything for $110 per month.. Oh well, not too bad for like a month or two I say.. Oh no, she says, we have to keep it for over a year! And then, of course, it will all go back into the newly renovated garage..

They got a new car last month too.. Fancypants fast a-lot-of-horsepower bought from the dealer that she uses to go to work. How far does she live from work? 1 mile exactly. She doesn't like bicycles.

I just smile and nod.
renovate a garage?  What am I missing?  I've never heard of anyone renovating a garage.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20454 on: July 09, 2018, 09:11:43 AM »
Coworker is struggling to find a storage space big and cheap enough for their budget - their garage is going to be renovated so everything inside it has to be put somewhere else. The two cars they have have never seen the inside of that garage. What's inside then? The daughter's clothes, all of them, from age 0 to now 16, books that are not fitting inside the house (and there are full shelves Everywhere), and old sentimental items that are clearly not sentimental enough for them to really take care of them. They are being left to be eaten by mice, but nothing can be thrown away unless rendered completely useless/eaten up.

She says they have found something that will hold everything for $110 per month.. Oh well, not too bad for like a month or two I say.. Oh no, she says, we have to keep it for over a year! And then, of course, it will all go back into the newly renovated garage..

They got a new car last month too.. Fancypants fast a-lot-of-horsepower bought from the dealer that she uses to go to work. How far does she live from work? 1 mile exactly. She doesn't like bicycles.

I just smile and nod.

1 mile? geez, i'd walk!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20455 on: July 09, 2018, 11:49:38 AM »
renovate a garage?  What am I missing?  I've never heard of anyone renovating a garage.
Typically (but not always) done because either the foundation has cracked, or the roof has sprung a leak.

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« Reply #20456 on: July 09, 2018, 12:30:21 PM »
renovate a garage?  What am I missing?  I've never heard of anyone renovating a garage.
Typically (but not always) done because either the foundation has cracked, or the roof has sprung a leak.

We put down granite floors in our garage to match the kitchen

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« Reply #20457 on: July 09, 2018, 12:45:39 PM »
renovate a garage?  What am I missing?  I've never heard of anyone renovating a garage.
Typically (but not always) done because either the foundation has cracked, or the roof has sprung a leak.

That seems very practical.

I've seen it done so people can put in a loft; or put in super fancy flooring and storage systems.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20458 on: July 09, 2018, 12:56:53 PM »
I also used to know a lady who would only eat cans of babyfood. According to her they were tasty, value for money and easy to eat. Her children weren't happy, but they still went to the shop and bought it for her (she was bedbound).

PSA: My grandmother went through this phase. It was because her oesophagus had aged and she was choking on regular food. Food like lasagne and shepherd's pie were found to be better options.

Mmmmmmm...shepherd's pie. I haven't had that in a while.

As for the baby food, isn't it a lot cheaper to get some frozen veggies and a microwave?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20459 on: July 09, 2018, 01:03:10 PM »
I also used to know a lady who would only eat cans of babyfood. According to her they were tasty, value for money and easy to eat. Her children weren't happy, but they still went to the shop and bought it for her (she was bedbound).

PSA: My grandmother went through this phase. It was because her oesophagus had aged and she was choking on regular food. Food like lasagne and shepherd's pie were found to be better options.

Mmmmmmm...shepherd's pie. I haven't had that in a while.

As for the baby food, isn't it a lot cheaper to get some frozen veggies and a microwave?

You expect a bed-bound old woman to purťe her own baby food? Or her no-doubt-busy-with-lives-of-their-own children? Presumably one attraction of the baby food is you can eat it at room temperature from the jar with a spoon if so desired.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20460 on: July 09, 2018, 02:25:26 PM »
I also used to know a lady who would only eat cans of babyfood. According to her they were tasty, value for money and easy to eat. Her children weren't happy, but they still went to the shop and bought it for her (she was bedbound).

PSA: My grandmother went through this phase. It was because her oesophagus had aged and she was choking on regular food. Food like lasagne and shepherd's pie were found to be better options.

Mmmmmmm...shepherd's pie. I haven't had that in a while.

As for the baby food, isn't it a lot cheaper to get some frozen veggies and a microwave?

Shepherd's pie is delicious.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20461 on: July 09, 2018, 03:36:07 PM »
A friend once lived a mile or two from work and found that over time his car battery would die. His commute wasn’t long enough to charge the battery so it would eventually drain. I think that is a good sign that you are too close to be using a car and should find an alternate mode of transportation.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20462 on: July 10, 2018, 01:39:49 AM »
A friend once lived a mile or two from work and found that over time his car battery would die. His commute wasnít long enough to charge the battery so it would eventually drain. I think that is a good sign that you are too close to be using a car and should find an alternate mode of transportation.

I used to have a colleague and friend who inherited his father's car. He used it only once a year during the summer holidays. The battery was always flat when he needed it. He also has his own parking spot in the parking cellar of the apartment building. I think he could have saved a lot of money by not owning the car and rent a car every summer, as well as renting out his own parking spot to a neighbour.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20463 on: July 10, 2018, 01:42:17 AM »
A friend once lived a mile or two from work and found that over time his car battery would die. His commute wasnít long enough to charge the battery so it would eventually drain. I think that is a good sign that you are too close to be using a car and should find an alternate mode of transportation.

I used to have a colleague and friend who inherited his father's car. He used it only once a year during the summer holidays. The battery was always flat when he needed it. He also has his own parking spot in the parking cellar of the apartment building. I think he could have saved a lot of money by not owning the car and rent a car every summer, as well as renting out his own parking spot to a neighbour.

Literally once a year? What FOR?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20464 on: July 10, 2018, 01:55:16 AM »
A friend once lived a mile or two from work and found that over time his car battery would die. His commute wasn’t long enough to charge the battery so it would eventually drain. I think that is a good sign that you are too close to be using a car and should find an alternate mode of transportation.

I used to have a colleague and friend who inherited his father's car. He used it only once a year during the summer holidays. The battery was always flat when he needed it. He also has his own parking spot in the parking cellar of the apartment building. I think he could have saved a lot of money by not owning the car and rent a car every summer, as well as renting out his own parking spot to a neighbour.

Literally once a year? What FOR?

Car-camping vacation out in the country... With a tent. Usually for 3-4 weeks.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20465 on: July 10, 2018, 07:52:26 AM »

One time I only bought herbes de provence and a lemon from Whole Foods and the cashier acted like I broke the sacred covenant of things you are allowed to buy.  "Wow, how could you only buy this????"  I still do not understand why he was so pissed...

Weird. You still probably spent around $10, right?

I handed over my wallet and said, "please leave some for the children :'("

Anyone know where I can get good/cheap herbes de provence?  The one at Whole Foods is only OK, too much rosemary.  They stopped carrying it at Trader Joes.  I have considered making it, but I don't want to keep all of the herbs that I would not use that often.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20466 on: July 10, 2018, 08:19:20 AM »

One time I only bought herbes de provence and a lemon from Whole Foods and the cashier acted like I broke the sacred covenant of things you are allowed to buy.  "Wow, how could you only buy this????"  I still do not understand why he was so pissed...

Weird. You still probably spent around $10, right?

I handed over my wallet and said, "please leave some for the children :'("

Anyone know where I can get good/cheap herbes de provence?  The one at Whole Foods is only OK, too much rosemary.  They stopped carrying it at Trader Joes.  I have considered making it, but I don't want to keep all of the herbs that I would not use that often.
I got a huge bag for about $2 when I was in the south of France. :-)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20467 on: July 10, 2018, 08:25:38 AM »

One time I only bought herbes de provence and a lemon from Whole Foods and the cashier acted like I broke the sacred covenant of things you are allowed to buy.  "Wow, how could you only buy this????"  I still do not understand why he was so pissed...

Weird. You still probably spent around $10, right?

I handed over my wallet and said, "please leave some for the children :'("

Anyone know where I can get good/cheap herbes de provence?  The one at Whole Foods is only OK, too much rosemary.  They stopped carrying it at Trader Joes.  I have considered making it, but I don't want to keep all of the herbs that I would not use that often.
I got a huge bag for about $2 when I was in the south of France. :-)

I planted rosemary, sage, and a variety of other herbs including lavender from $3 starts years ago. They've more than paid for themselves. So my herbes de Provence are free, fresh, and sometimes a source of side income.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20468 on: July 10, 2018, 08:44:00 AM »
Anyone know where I can get good/cheap herbes de provence?  The one at Whole Foods is only OK, too much rosemary.  They stopped carrying it at Trader Joes.  I have considered making it, but I don't want to keep all of the herbs that I would not use that often.

You can buy bulk spices at the WF near me, otherwise you could find a local co-op with a bulk spices section. Bring your own measuring spoons and the online recipe, buy exactly the amount of each herb you need, and mix it at home. (For added Mustachianism, bring your own jars from home rather than use the provided plastic baggies.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20469 on: July 10, 2018, 11:58:10 AM »

One time I only bought herbes de provence and a lemon from Whole Foods and the cashier acted like I broke the sacred covenant of things you are allowed to buy.  "Wow, how could you only buy this????"  I still do not understand why he was so pissed...

Weird. You still probably spent around $10, right?

I handed over my wallet and said, "please leave some for the children :'("

Anyone know where I can get good/cheap herbes de provence?  The one at Whole Foods is only OK, too much rosemary.  They stopped carrying it at Trader Joes.  I have considered making it, but I don't want to keep all of the herbs that I would not use that often.

We buy ours from Penzeyís.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20470 on: July 10, 2018, 01:03:22 PM »
I'm also an intellectual. In fact, my favorite movies are zombie movies."

But ... wha.... but... *facepalm*

I'm an academic. That makes me kind of an intellectual, right? Also like zombie movies. Of course, I don't go around proclaiming that I'm an intellectual. I do go around proclaiming that I like zombie movies.

I just love that this individual dropped that after talking about how gold was the only investment to make. Like he clearly felt a zombie apocalypse would be coming, and somehow him and his gold would survive it...but only because of the gold.

No, my understanding is that he and his paper contracts for gold that he did not actually get to hold in his hands would attempt to survive the zombies... Kind of like bitcoin to me.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20471 on: July 10, 2018, 03:15:18 PM »
I'm also an intellectual. In fact, my favorite movies are zombie movies."

But ... wha.... but... *facepalm*

I'm an academic. That makes me kind of an intellectual, right? Also like zombie movies. Of course, I don't go around proclaiming that I'm an intellectual. I do go around proclaiming that I like zombie movies.

I just love that this individual dropped that after talking about how gold was the only investment to make. Like he clearly felt a zombie apocalypse would be coming, and somehow him and his gold would survive it...but only because of the gold.

No, my understanding is that he and his paper contracts for gold that he did not actually get to hold in his hands would attempt to survive the zombies... Kind of like bitcoin to me.

I suppose he thought the paper contracts would make their brains explode?

Haha, bitcoin. I call it $#!!COIN

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20472 on: July 11, 2018, 04:53:42 AM »
(sic: paper contracts for gold that don't generate income in any way, and do not lead to the actual owning of any gold either, for those who might believe this malarkey)

Is he talking about gold ETFs? I'm kind of surprised though, most goldbugs want the shiny stuff close on hand.

Although that said, my SO knows a goldbug who spends every spare cent on the stuff in preparation for a global financial collapse... and keeps it all in Malaysia. Where he won't be able to get at it in a hurry if everything did go to poop.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20473 on: July 11, 2018, 08:19:33 AM »
Why wouldn't these end of the world types want their gold coins right next to their ammo and bug out bag? Alot of good paper promises will do a person fleeing a zombie attack. ;)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20474 on: July 11, 2018, 08:30:45 AM »
Today CW advised me he is buying fishing kayak for $4k. I made the mistake of being slightly excited. Oh I have a canoe its lots of fun I didn't know you did that sort of stuff? CW proceeds to tell me how he has never fished or boated really before, none of his friends do but he really likes the idea of this so he is going to try it out. The only reason he doesn't do it is because he doesn't own all the stuff. At this point it sunk in how much he was spending and I mentioned it might be prudent to rent a kayak first before he drops $4k on one. The rebuttal was this is a really great deal as its normally over $5k and he does not want to miss out. - Sadly I used to be able to relate to this kind of thinking. Now I just think SHIT his boat that needs a paddle costs more than my car.

Update:

Me: How's the new fishing Kayak working out?
CW: oh ya I am not sure it is my thing. The boat is really wobbly and because it is a kayak it is really narrow so its hard to move around at all unlike a full sized boat.
Me: Are you going to sell it then?
CW: Seriously? I just bought it. My wife would kill me if I sold it already.
Me: won't she notice you are not using it?
CW: No I stored it at my friends cabin so we can just watch tv and drink beer and she won't know.
Me: That sounds like quite the elaborate plan.
CW: it is not like I won't ever use it again so technically I just say I am going out to the lake and it is all good.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20475 on: July 11, 2018, 08:37:08 AM »
Today CW advised me he is buying fishing kayak for $4k. I made the mistake of being slightly excited. Oh I have a canoe its lots of fun I didn't know you did that sort of stuff? CW proceeds to tell me how he has never fished or boated really before, none of his friends do but he really likes the idea of this so he is going to try it out. The only reason he doesn't do it is because he doesn't own all the stuff. At this point it sunk in how much he was spending and I mentioned it might be prudent to rent a kayak first before he drops $4k on one. The rebuttal was this is a really great deal as its normally over $5k and he does not want to miss out. - Sadly I used to be able to relate to this kind of thinking. Now I just think SHIT his boat that needs a paddle costs more than my car.

Update:

Me: How's the new fishing Kayak working out?
CW: oh ya I am not sure it is my thing. The boat is really wobbly and because it is a kayak it is really narrow so its hard to move around at all unlike a full sized boat.
Me: Are you going to sell it then?
CW: Seriously? I just bought it. My wife would kill me if I sold it already.
Me: won't she notice you are not using it?
CW: No I stored it at my friends cabin so we can just watch tv and drink beer and she won't know.
Me: That sounds like quite the elaborate plan.
CW: it is not like I won't ever use it again so technically I just say I am going out to the lake and it is all good.
So I guess the kayak needs to sit at the cabin just in case the wife decides to visit? Otherwise, it seems like the obvious thing to do would be to sell the kayak for beer money!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20476 on: July 11, 2018, 08:51:10 AM »
Anyone know where I can get good/cheap herbes de provence?  The one at Whole Foods is only OK, too much rosemary.  They stopped carrying it at Trader Joes.  I have considered making it, but I don't want to keep all of the herbs that I would not use that often.

You can buy bulk spices at the WF near me, otherwise you could find a local co-op with a bulk spices section. Bring your own measuring spoons and the online recipe, buy exactly the amount of each herb you need, and mix it at home. (For added Mustachianism, bring your own jars from home rather than use the provided plastic baggies.)

I loved all of the suggestions, but this is my favorite!  At the local co-ops they will tare your containers, great idea.  @TheGrimSqueaker I also love the idea of growing and selling the excess, definitely something I will pursue in the future when I am not so time-poor.

Update:

Me: How's the new fishing Kayak working out?
CW: oh ya I am not sure it is my thing. The boat is really wobbly and because it is a kayak it is really narrow so its hard to move around at all unlike a full sized boat.
Me: Are you going to sell it then?
CW: Seriously? I just bought it. My wife would kill me if I sold it already.
Me: won't she notice you are not using it?
CW: No I stored it at my friends cabin so we can just watch tv and drink beer and she won't know.
Me: That sounds like quite the elaborate plan.
CW: it is not like I won't ever use it again so technically I just say I am going out to the lake and it is all good.

Sounds like the plot to Brokeback Mountain... you better warn him to check the kayak for notes from his wife ;P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20477 on: July 11, 2018, 10:21:19 AM »
This seemed like the most appropriate thread to post this. Not where I work, but I worked in twin cities area as a CPA and know people at this firm and others like it: http://www.startribune.com/former-partner-in-minneapolis-accounting-firm-loses-millions-in-noncompete-dispute/487546901/


Retired/bought out CPA firm partner violated non-compete and loses his $90k/month in retirement. I think there is some prestige involved with a job like this that make it hard to step away. The small firm I worked at had a couple partners bought when they turned 60 while I was there. One billed more hours in the year after buyout than the prior year.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20478 on: July 11, 2018, 01:09:09 PM »
I am loving this thread! I sit by a few guys who should prove to be a steady source of material.



Coworker: "My wife doesn't usually get me anything for my birthday because we don't have enough money left over."

... 4 minutes later ...

Coworker: "Yeah, when my wife goes to Wal-Mart for groceries, she always spends over $700 on food."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #20479 on: July 11, 2018, 01:48:09 PM »
This seemed like the most appropriate thread to post this. Not where I work, but I worked in twin cities area as a CPA and know people at this firm and others like it: http://www.startribune.com/former-partner-in-minneapolis-accounting-firm-loses-millions-in-noncompete-dispute/487546901/


Retired/bought out CPA firm partner violated non-compete and loses his $90k/month in retirement. I think there is some prestige involved with a job like this that make it hard to step away. The small firm I worked at had a couple partners bought when they turned 60 while I was there. One billed more hours in the year after buyout than the prior year.

Non-compete agreements are funny things. I knew a fellow (now deceased) who operated a tourist destination type store in Las Vegas, NV where he manufactured and sold widgets. To expand the business, he took on what was supposed to be a silent partner, but the partner was doing some things with the store my buddy didn't approve of. Eventually my buddy was effectively forced out, with only a small fraction of the business and the inventory, *and* the partner had the business and service mark rights to my buddy's name. So my buddy was a defeated shell of a man at that time. I couldn't stand seeing him that way, but in his mind he was in a bind because of the agreement he'd signed. Because of a bad partnership decision, he was losing control of a business he'd built from the ground up and that employed many people who over the years had become his friends.

"Did the contract have a non-compete clause?" I asked him. We were hanging out in a restaurant, and I'd brought along my parents and a girlfriend. Oddly, despite his years of entrepreneurial experience, my buddy hadn't run across the non-compete concept and didn't know what it was. My dad and I explained that it limited his business options in the same line of work, within a specific time frame and within a specific distance.

"You could open up John Doe's* flower shop next door," I said, "and nobody would care because people who come to town looking for widgets aren't the same customer base. Or, maybe you could open up a widget shop in a different county or five years down the line. In the meantime, the non-compete clause is supposed to give the other guy a chance to build up his business without interference from the former owner."

I suggested that, since his former partner had been such a dick, it would be awesome if he opened up the same kind of business he had before, only bigger, with a different name obviously, right across the street from the first one. But only if he didn't have a non-compete agreement.

"You've taken out a business license before. You've leased real estate. You've got the people, some inventory, and the contacts. Also, I'm reasonably sure that there is not a piano tied to your ass." A light came into my buddy's eyes and he sat up straighter. By the time we all left the restaurant, he'd resolved to check the contract and then fight back.

My father and I continued helping my buddy refine his battle plan while my mom daydreamed and my girlfriend enjoyed a strongly mixed beverage. (The ladies did not converse. Having met recently, they cordially hated each other. It's ironic because both are women of extreme refinement, intelligence, and taste.)

"Call the new store 'Widget Overlord of Las Vegas'," I said. "Technically you'll still be naming it after yourself... what? You've been a big name in widgets here for years. If someone asks: 'who is the widget overlord of Las Vegas', what name comes to mind? Someone else's? No. That's you. So name your new store 'Widget Overlord of Las Vegas' and get around the fact they own the rights to your own name. Henry Ford learned to live with it. So can you. You sold your name, not your balls."

It turned out that there was indeed no non-compete clause in the contract because both sides decided to cheap out and write it themselves, but neither had the demonic experience or legal training (possibly the same thing) to foresee the need for such an aspect of the agreement.

And so it happened that the Widget Overlord of Las Vegas opened a competing shop, stole back most of his former customers, and lived more or less happily the rest of his days. His former partner's business became a laughingstock and then collapsed. I wish I could say I got a free widget out of the deal but it didn't occur to me to ask. Looking back, I probably should have.

* not his real name
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« Reply #20480 on: July 11, 2018, 02:24:23 PM »
Nice story!

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« Reply #20481 on: July 11, 2018, 04:46:53 PM »
You sold your name, not your balls."

I <3 you.

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« Reply #20482 on: July 11, 2018, 07:08:09 PM »
Unable to pay suppliers because the money was already spent on unnecessary expenses and ownership draws. Suppliers shut down business. Management complains that suppliers are being unfair.

Manipulating employees when responding to suppliers' requests for payment. You can only tell them a customer hasn't paid us so many times (which is a lie) before they figure out that the company is dry.

Spending millions on rent per year and not utilizing all of the space. Not even close to utilizing all of the space!

Spending millions on litigation because a tenant backed out of their lease due to the company not providing what they said they would. Surprise - litigation ends with nothing in return.

Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per year on a consultant who does absolutely nothing for the company. Owner says he helps answer e-mails and phone calls that he otherwise could not get to.

Working out of poorly maintained buildings that haven't been cleaned in years. Wiring hanging down from ceiling, missing ceiling tiles, water leaks, rusty sinks. Employees get sick probably once a week. Then paying hundreds per month to clean HQ, but satellite buildings go uncleaned. Refusing to hire cleaning services in satellite offices.

Refusing to fix IT issues in a timely fashion. Our sales manager has been without access to his sales program for several weeks now. A rep just got a new computer, but the owner is refusing to grant access to the software on his new machine, for reasons unknown.

Not using a budget or cash flow forecast of any kind. Ignoring advice from professionals and shooting from the hip when it comes to company finances.

Refusing to pay taxes on time.

Using passive-aggressiveness anytime legitimate issues are brought up.

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« Reply #20483 on: July 12, 2018, 12:25:50 AM »
Accounting for Life: Run away, run away. What a car crash.

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« Reply #20484 on: July 12, 2018, 01:20:54 AM »
renovate a garage?  What am I missing?  I've never heard of anyone renovating a garage.
Typically (but not always) done because either the foundation has cracked, or the roof has sprung a leak.

That seems very practical.

I've seen it done so people can put in a loft; or put in super fancy flooring and storage systems.

They live in a row of flats, and the row of flats has a row of free-standing garages. And yes, the foundation is probably not the best and the exterior is rotting. Latest is that they will actually keep the storage space three years, not two, since they are expecting the whole row of garages to be torn down and rebuilt. So that's $4000 for keeping stuff of essentially no value..

I'd also walk. Or bike. Or anything else than driving. Could have helped them with the excess weight also for sure.. But it takes tiiiime compared to driving.

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« Reply #20485 on: July 12, 2018, 01:39:17 PM »
Update:

Me: How's the new fishing Kayak working out?
CW: oh ya I am not sure it is my thing. The boat is really wobbly and because it is a kayak it is really narrow so its hard to move around at all unlike a full sized boat.
Me: Are you going to sell it then?
CW: Seriously? I just bought it. My wife would kill me if I sold it already.
Me: won't she notice you are not using it?
CW: No I stored it at my friends cabin so we can just watch tv and drink beer and she won't know.
Me: That sounds like quite the elaborate plan.
CW: it is not like I won't ever use it again so technically I just say I am going out to the lake and it is all good.

Sounds like the plot to Brokeback Mountain... you better warn him to check the kayak for notes from his wife ;P

hahaha my sides actually hurt right now.

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« Reply #20486 on: July 12, 2018, 06:38:07 PM »
What a great story, GrimSqueaker!

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« Reply #20487 on: July 12, 2018, 06:48:51 PM »
Today CW advised me he is buying fishing kayak for $4k. I made the mistake of being slightly excited. Oh I have a canoe its lots of fun I didn't know you did that sort of stuff? CW proceeds to tell me how he has never fished or boated really before, none of his friends do but he really likes the idea of this so he is going to try it out. The only reason he doesn't do it is because he doesn't own all the stuff. At this point it sunk in how much he was spending and I mentioned it might be prudent to rent a kayak first before he drops $4k on one. The rebuttal was this is a really great deal as its normally over $5k and he does not want to miss out. - Sadly I used to be able to relate to this kind of thinking. Now I just think SHIT his boat that needs a paddle costs more than my car.
This is one of my favorite stories on here.  Great logic!   I thought it was bad when I bought a $225 kayak and probably only used it 6 times.  I recently sold for $150. 

Update:

Me: How's the new fishing Kayak working out?
CW: oh ya I am not sure it is my thing. The boat is really wobbly and because it is a kayak it is really narrow so its hard to move around at all unlike a full sized boat.
Me: Are you going to sell it then?
CW: Seriously? I just bought it. My wife would kill me if I sold it already.
Me: won't she notice you are not using it?
CW: No I stored it at my friends cabin so we can just watch tv and drink beer and she won't know.
Me: That sounds like quite the elaborate plan.
CW: it is not like I won't ever use it again so technically I just say I am going out to the lake and it is all good.

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« Reply #20488 on: July 13, 2018, 08:04:18 AM »
There is a gentleman that is in the office next to me and rumor has spread that he will be leaving in December, and not to a new job.  He looks to me to be in his 50s, maybe early 50s.  I of course think this is an awesome sign of FIRE but am not sure because he is a very private guy. 

Most of my other coworkers are completely baffled by this.  I have heard that some of them even made fun of him when he started working here because he brings his lunch everyday and uses washable dishes to eat his lunch. 

I am dying to ask him if he is retiring early and give him a huge congrats but he is so private that I am pretty sure that would be too much for him.   

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« Reply #20489 on: July 13, 2018, 09:07:02 AM »
There is a gentleman that is in the office next to me and rumor has spread that he will be leaving in December, and not to a new job.  He looks to me to be in his 50s, maybe early 50s.  I of course think this is an awesome sign of FIRE but am not sure because he is a very private guy. 

Most of my other coworkers are completely baffled by this.  I have heard that some of them even made fun of him when he started working here because he brings his lunch everyday and uses washable dishes to eat his lunch. 

I am dying to ask him if he is retiring early and give him a huge congrats but he is so private that I am pretty sure that would be too much for him.   
What've you got to lose?  I'd *love* to hear if he's secretly built up a stache.

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« Reply #20490 on: July 13, 2018, 11:16:05 AM »
There is a gentleman that is in the office next to me and rumor has spread that he will be leaving in December, and not to a new job.  He looks to me to be in his 50s, maybe early 50s.  I of course think this is an awesome sign of FIRE but am not sure because he is a very private guy. 

Most of my other coworkers are completely baffled by this.  I have heard that some of them even made fun of him when he started working here because he brings his lunch everyday and uses washable dishes to eat his lunch. 

I am dying to ask him if he is retiring early and give him a huge congrats but he is so private that I am pretty sure that would be too much for him.   
What've you got to lose?  I'd *love* to hear if he's secretly built up a stache.

His manager confirmed that he was retiring today during lunch, the speculation is that he is 57 (I think he looks closer to 50).  I believe his manager is older than him, managers statement was "Yes ___ is retiring at the end of the year, some people save money better than others".
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« Reply #20491 on: July 13, 2018, 01:03:24 PM »
There is a gentleman that is in the office next to me and rumor has spread that he will be leaving in December, and not to a new job.  He looks to me to be in his 50s, maybe early 50s.  I of course think this is an awesome sign of FIRE but am not sure because he is a very private guy. 

Most of my other coworkers are completely baffled by this.  I have heard that some of them even made fun of him when he started working here because he brings his lunch everyday and uses washable dishes to eat his lunch. 

I am dying to ask him if he is retiring early and give him a huge congrats but he is so private that I am pretty sure that would be too much for him.   
What've you got to lose?  I'd *love* to hear if he's secretly built up a stache.

His manager confirmed that he was retiring today during lunch, the speculation is that he is 57 (I think he looks closer to 50).  I believe his manager is older than him, managers statement was "Yes ___ is retiring at the end of the year, some people save money better than others".

Here is your script:

Slow&Steady: "Hello Co-worker X, congratulations on your retirement.  BTW, what is your mustache code-name?"
Co-Worker X: Either
A.) Puzzled look, scurries away without response.
or
B.) "I'm so glad you asked, my MMM forum handle is SuperSecretStealthMustachedNinja." And you have a new friend for life!


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« Reply #20492 on: July 13, 2018, 02:52:27 PM »
Here is your script:

Slow&Steady: "Hello Co-worker X, congratulations on your retirement.  BTW, what is your mustache code-name?"
Co-Worker X: Either
A.) Puzzled look, scurries away without response.
or
B.) "I'm so glad you asked, my MMM forum handle is SuperSecretStealthMustachedNinja." And you have a new friend for life!

Oh man, we had some funny stories like that at our recent Bellingham/Vancouver/Vancouver Island camping trip. Tons of people brought their friends or family members who knew nothing about the group. Plenty of that conversation happened, going both ways. And then there was "Okay, group photo, quickly, do the cult signal!". It was hilarious.

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« Reply #20493 on: July 13, 2018, 05:03:52 PM »
I just started working for the federal government. Co worker who has been with the agency for 40 years, and is in his 70s, a gs12,  has only $15k in the TSP. Has a spouse at home who used to make 170k before becoming disabled, now gets 13k per year in disability. They refinanced their home less than 10 years ago to get the equity out, for a reason the co worker hasnít  shared,  and still owe $220k. They wonít move, and they canít afford the mortgage with just disability, the husbands federal pension and ssi, so the husband still works.

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« Reply #20494 on: July 13, 2018, 07:36:14 PM »
My workmate had just spent close to $400 on her daughterís Irish dancing classes, (had to pay for the 10 classes upfront); and also paid $1000 for her daughterís dance costume for her end of year Irish dancing recitalÖ

What made it even worse was that after her second dance lesson, her daughter decided that she did not like the classes and did not want to attend them anymore.

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« Reply #20495 on: July 14, 2018, 07:37:06 AM »
My workmate had just spent close to $400 on her daughterís Irish dancing classes, (had to pay for the 10 classes upfront); and also paid $1000 for her daughterís dance costume for her end of year Irish dancing recitalÖ

What made it even worse was that after her second dance lesson, her daughter decided that she did not like the classes and did not want to attend them anymore.

Former Feis Mom here.  I don't think much of that school.   Beginners usually rent school dresses from the school for recitals, or wear a simple skirt and blouse.   Plus usually a beginner can try a class or two for free, just to see if they really do like it. 

On the other hand, paying for a season of lessons is standard in just about any activity.  The fixed costs don't change just because little Fiona decides to not go that week.

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« Reply #20496 on: July 14, 2018, 07:43:22 AM »
My workmate had just spent close to $400 on her daughterís Irish dancing classes, (had to pay for the 10 classes upfront); and also paid $1000 for her daughterís dance costume for her end of year Irish dancing recitalÖ

What made it even worse was that after her second dance lesson, her daughter decided that she did not like the classes and did not want to attend them anymore.

Former Feis Mom here.  I don't think much of that school.   Beginners usually rent school dresses from the school for recitals, or wear a simple skirt and blouse.   Plus usually a beginner can try a class or two for free, just to see if they really do like it. 

On the other hand, paying for a season of lessons is standard in just about any activity.  The fixed costs don't change just because little Fiona decides to not go that week.

When I taught music, I got a month's worth of lesson fees in advance, less any vacations scheduled in advance. The time is still blocked out and cannot easily be sold to another student. Even in a class situation where there are multiple students, there are a maximum number that can be accommodated before the quality of the service starts to deteriorate. I once did try a cafeteria style "pay as you go" approach but it ended up losing me money so I dropped it.

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« Reply #20497 on: July 14, 2018, 08:44:54 PM »
My wife keeps in touch with former coworkers wife (I donít cause Iím antisocial)

We got some baby clothes somewhere reasonably priced but not even used.  apparently the ex-coworker wife scoffed ďoh you buy clothes THERE?  But itís not ORGANIC!Ē

Bitch, your new Audi ainít organic either

Rant over

Edit: to be honest I donít know what organic clothes are, and am already grumpy about the term because itís super nonspecific and dumb
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« Reply #20498 on: July 14, 2018, 09:36:01 PM »
My wife keeps in touch with former coworkers wife (I donít cause Iím antisocial)

We got some baby clothes somewhere reasonably priced but not even used.  apparently the ex-coworker wife scoffed ďoh you buy clothes THERE?  But itís not ORGANIC!Ē

Bitch, your new Audi ainít organic either

Rant over

Edit: to be honest I donít know what organic clothes are, and am already grumpy about the term because itís super nonspecific and dumb

Organic clothing means made with material (typically cotton) grown using USDA Organic criteria.

The problem, though, is twofold: (1) clothing doesn't have to be 100% organically grown to be labelled organic, and (2) cotton is an energy and water intensive crop. This makes organic clothing a particularly meaningless virtue symbol.

"Organic", to me, is like "modern". You have to know the context to know whether someone is talking about the past year, past century or past 100,000 years. And people often don't know enough about what they're saying to provide that context.

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« Reply #20499 on: July 14, 2018, 09:41:03 PM »
My wife keeps in touch with former coworkers wife (I donít cause Iím antisocial)

We got some baby clothes somewhere reasonably priced but not even used.  apparently the ex-coworker wife scoffed ďoh you buy clothes THERE?  But itís not ORGANIC!Ē

Bitch, your new Audi ainít organic either

Rant over

Edit: to be honest I donít know what organic clothes are, and am already grumpy about the term because itís super nonspecific and dumb

Organic clothing means made with material (typically cotton) grown using USDA Organic criteria.

The problem, though, is twofold: (1) clothing doesn't have to be 100% organically grown to be labelled organic, and (2) cotton is an energy and water intensive crop. This makes organic clothing a particularly meaningless virtue symbol.

"Organic", to me, is like "modern". You have to know the context to know whether someone is talking about the past year, past century or past 100,000 years. And people often don't know enough about what they're saying to provide that context.

What's better?  Hemp?  Synthetic fibers?  Synthetically grown cotton?  Organically grown rayon?  Used clothing from goodwill?

Just kidding, of course, I know babies should be kept in my marsupial pouch to avoid clothing alltogether