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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9750 on: August 03, 2015, 10:18:31 AM »
The power lines into my company's building have a lot of issues; we've lost power a few times in the short time I've worked here.  The power company won't replace the entire run from the transformer into the building, so we have to deal with them replacing small chunks every time the lane goes out.  They're under ground cables, not entirely sure what the issue is there...

Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.
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« Reply #9751 on: August 03, 2015, 10:41:03 AM »
Boss: It's so difficult saving for retirement and I'll have to work until I'm atleast 65 even 70 to realistically have a chance.. Then starts bashing cops and teachers because they have nice pensions and get paid alot of money to do nothing apparently. This guy is a dink which makes it even worst. I don't know his salary but he's making $70k atleast..

He always comes in with dunkin donuts coffee each morning, buys lunch(every day) and orders takeouts everynight because he says since it's only him and his wife he doesn't want to throw out extras.. He also seems to go to expensive restuarants in NYC every weekend or so and brags about the experience.

Don't get how a DINK who's probably in his 50's isn't ready to retire. SMH @ DINKS

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9752 on: August 03, 2015, 10:48:42 AM »
Boss: It's so difficult saving for retirement and I'll have to work until I'm atleast 65 even 70 to realistically have a chance.. Then starts bashing cops and teachers because they have nice pensions and get paid alot of money to do nothing apparently. This guy is a dink which makes it even worst. I don't know his salary but he's making $70k atleast..

He always comes in with dunkin donuts coffee each morning, buys lunch(every day) and orders takeouts everynight because he says since it's only him and his wife he doesn't want to throw out extras.. He also seems to go to expensive restuarants in NYC every weekend or so and brags about the experience.

Don't get how a DINK who's probably in his 50's isn't ready to retire. SMH @ DINKS

Yea okay, lets extrapolate from this one DINK that all DINKs are like this.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9753 on: August 03, 2015, 10:49:50 AM »
He always comes in with dunkin donuts coffee each morning, buys lunch(every day) and orders takeouts everynight because he says since it's only him and his wife he doesn't want to throw out extras.. He also seems to go to expensive restuarants in NYC every weekend or so and brags about the experience.
But he needs all those things to compensate for the stress of his job. Duh ;)
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Don't get how a DINK who's probably in his 50's isn't ready to retire. SMH @ DINKS
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9754 on: August 03, 2015, 10:59:48 AM »
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
That's the point if there are two paychecks and no expensive-rug rats you should be able to save one of the pay checks without too much hardship

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9755 on: August 03, 2015, 11:04:45 AM »
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
That's the point if there are two paychecks and no expensive-rug rats you should be able to save one of the pay checks without too much hardship

That still doesn't explain why aristotle hates all DINKs. By your logic, aristotle shouldn't hate zephyr911, but zephyr911 is a DINK. so by aristotle's previous statement, aristotle hates zephyr911.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9756 on: August 03, 2015, 11:08:30 AM »
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
That's the point if there are two paychecks and no expensive-rug rats you should be able to save one of the pay checks without too much hardship
I couldn't agree more. In fact, I make twice what DW does and we're getting close to living off her paycheck.
My objection was only to the phrasing, which seems to lump all DINKs in with the "dumbasses who blow incredible financial opportunities" crowd. There are financial idiots both in AND out of the DINK category.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9757 on: August 03, 2015, 11:26:59 AM »
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
That's the point if there are two paychecks and no expensive-rug rats you should be able to save one of the pay checks without too much hardship

That still doesn't explain why aristotle hates all DINKs. By your logic, aristotle shouldn't hate zephyr911, but zephyr911 is a DINK. so by aristotle's previous statement, aristotle hates zephyr911.
In his defense, I don't think he *hates* DINKs, and I think he probably meant "DINKs who can't retire early because of poor financial habits."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9758 on: August 03, 2015, 11:32:24 AM »
Uh... What's a DINK?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9759 on: August 03, 2015, 11:33:15 AM »
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
That's the point if there are two paychecks and no expensive-rug rats you should be able to save one of the pay checks without too much hardship

That still doesn't explain why aristotle hates all DINKs. By your logic, aristotle shouldn't hate zephyr911, but zephyr911 is a DINK. so by aristotle's previous statement, aristotle hates zephyr911.
In his defense, I don't think he *hates* DINKs, and I think he probably meant "DINKs who can't retire early because of poor financial habits."

I agree, but it drives me crazy when people write statements that mean everybody in group X behaves in a certain way, especially when that is written to disparage X. It drives me even more crazy when what precedes it is ONE example of somebody from X.

Uh... What's a DINK?
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9760 on: August 03, 2015, 11:36:18 AM »
Uh... What's a DINK?
These assholes, basically:

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9761 on: August 03, 2015, 11:48:07 AM »
Uh... What's a DINK?
These assholes, basically:



Thats some pretty funny stuff.

The power lines into my company's building have a lot of issues; we've lost power a few times in the short time I've worked here.  The power company won't replace the entire run from the transformer into the building, so we have to deal with them replacing small chunks every time the lane goes out.  They're under ground cables, not entirely sure what the issue is there...

Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.

I'd take Just about any excuse, reasonable or unreasonable, to go home from work early, so I wouldn't judge those people. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9762 on: August 03, 2015, 12:10:12 PM »
The power lines into my company's building have a lot of issues; we've lost power a few times in the short time I've worked here.  The power company won't replace the entire run from the transformer into the building, so we have to deal with them replacing small chunks every time the lane goes out.  They're under ground cables, not entirely sure what the issue is there...

Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.

Depending on the humidity that would be me. If I'm not outside, even with fans, 80 is miserable for me. But I am comfortable without pants down to around 60*, so I'm probably an outlier.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9763 on: August 03, 2015, 12:35:26 PM »
The power lines into my company's building have a lot of issues; we've lost power a few times in the short time I've worked here.  The power company won't replace the entire run from the transformer into the building, so we have to deal with them replacing small chunks every time the lane goes out.  They're under ground cables, not entirely sure what the issue is there...

Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.

My roommate would be on that list. Even better is I'm on the opposite side. We've compromised by setting the A/C at 75 and me sitting with an afghan (yes, a blanket, in the middle of summer), and not using the A/C as much as possible because the dryness irritates my sinuses.

She insists that she can't sleep if it's 80. She insists that she can't sleep without covers. She insists that she can't sleep with just a sheet. She also insists that she can't sleep anywhere other than her bed, never mind that it's 15 degrees cooler in the fully finished basement. And it's her futon in the basement.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9764 on: August 03, 2015, 12:53:16 PM »
The power lines into my company's building have a lot of issues; we've lost power a few times in the short time I've worked here.  The power company won't replace the entire run from the transformer into the building, so we have to deal with them replacing small chunks every time the lane goes out.  They're under ground cables, not entirely sure what the issue is there...

Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.

My roommate would be on that list. Even better is I'm on the opposite side. We've compromised by setting the A/C at 75 and me sitting with an afghan (yes, a blanket, in the middle of summer), and not using the A/C as much as possible because the dryness irritates my sinuses.

She insists that she can't sleep if it's 80. She insists that she can't sleep without covers. She insists that she can't sleep with just a sheet. She also insists that she can't sleep anywhere other than her bed, never mind that it's 15 degrees cooler in the fully finished basement. And it's her futon in the basement.

sounds like me. i need a blanket to fall asleep. a sheet is not heavy enough. I think its more about the weight than anything else, which there are plenty of studies proving a link between weight on a body and relaxation. and i use the A/C. i also wouldn't want to sleep in a basement when I pay for a bedroom. and im willing to pay for my A/C. our bill is like 40 a month with five A/Cs.

sounds like c cold mist humidifier would be a great compromise

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9765 on: August 03, 2015, 12:56:46 PM »
My roommate would be on that list. Even better is I'm on the opposite side. We've compromised by setting the A/C at 75 and me sitting with an afghan (yes, a blanket, in the middle of summer), and not using the A/C as much as possible because the dryness irritates my sinuses.

She insists that she can't sleep if it's 80. She insists that she can't sleep without covers. She insists that she can't sleep with just a sheet. She also insists that she can't sleep anywhere other than her bed, never mind that it's 15 degrees cooler in the fully finished basement. And it's her futon in the basement.

Sounds like it's time to dump the complainypants roommate...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9766 on: August 03, 2015, 12:58:23 PM »
Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.

I'd leave because of the fans. I cannot handle air blowing on me.

And 80 degrees at home is comfortable, until I got pregnant, that was where we set our A/C; 80 degrees at work is uncomfortable- 77 makes a world of difference. I wear shorts and a tank top and am barefoot at home.  I can't dress like that at work.  So I can understand "escape the heat".

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9767 on: August 03, 2015, 12:59:58 PM »
My roommate would be on that list. Even better is I'm on the opposite side. We've compromised by setting the A/C at 75 and me sitting with an afghan (yes, a blanket, in the middle of summer), and not using the A/C as much as possible because the dryness irritates my sinuses.

She insists that she can't sleep if it's 80. She insists that she can't sleep without covers. She insists that she can't sleep with just a sheet. She also insists that she can't sleep anywhere other than her bed, never mind that it's 15 degrees cooler in the fully finished basement. And it's her futon in the basement.

Sounds like it's time to dump the complainypants roommate...

that's also an option, but i think "complainypants"  gets used way too often to just refer to someone who doesn't agree with you.

doesn't sound like the room mate complains about the bill to keep it the A/C. is it really complaining to like things a certain way and ask for it? it also seems like a compromise has been established.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9768 on: August 03, 2015, 01:15:11 PM »
My roommate would be on that list. Even better is I'm on the opposite side. We've compromised by setting the A/C at 75 and me sitting with an afghan (yes, a blanket, in the middle of summer), and not using the A/C as much as possible because the dryness irritates my sinuses.

She insists that she can't sleep if it's 80. She insists that she can't sleep without covers. She insists that she can't sleep with just a sheet. She also insists that she can't sleep anywhere other than her bed, never mind that it's 15 degrees cooler in the fully finished basement. And it's her futon in the basement.

Sounds like it's time to dump the complainypants roommate...

that's also an option, but i think "complainypants"  gets used way too often to just refer to someone who doesn't agree with you.

doesn't sound like the room mate complains about the bill to keep it the A/C. is it really complaining to like things a certain way and ask for it? it also seems like a compromise has been established.

I don't pay for utilities, my roommate/landlord does, so it's his call if he wants to turn the A/C on, and I love it when he does. I find it sleeps better. Now that I'm buying a house for myself and going to be paying for utilities, I am going to learn to suck it up.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9769 on: August 03, 2015, 02:22:05 PM »
The power lines into my company's building have a lot of issues; we've lost power a few times in the short time I've worked here.  The power company won't replace the entire run from the transformer into the building, so we have to deal with them replacing small chunks every time the lane goes out.  They're under ground cables, not entirely sure what the issue is there...

Anyways, this time the phase that runs the A/C unit went down.  It is maybe 80F in here, tops.  Today I'm finding out who lives a pampered air-conditioned lifestyle.  People are leaving to work from home to "escape the heat", even after the company rolled in oscillating fans and a free-standing A/C.

I'm with your coworkers.  I'm sitting here in my office in a long sleeve dress shirt, undershirt, and wool dress pants.  If it's 80* in here, I'm leaving.  I came in over the weekend to prepare for a presentation this AM, and even in my t-shirt and basketball shorts it was uncomfortable at 85* with the A/C off over the weekend (news to me they did that).  I grew up in a house without central air, nothing about that is "better". 
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9770 on: August 03, 2015, 03:54:18 PM »
CW1: Did you hear so-and-so got a new truck?
CW2: Yeah, he went to the dealer to trade in his old one.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9771 on: August 03, 2015, 05:32:19 PM »
He always comes in with dunkin donuts coffee each morning, buys lunch(every day) and orders takeouts everynight because he says since it's only him and his wife he doesn't want to throw out extras.. He also seems to go to expensive restuarants in NYC every weekend or so and brags about the experience.
But he needs all those things to compensate for the stress of his job. Duh ;)
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Don't get how a DINK who's probably in his 50's isn't ready to retire. SMH @ DINKS
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
The funny part is, I did everything wrong for over a decade and only got serious about FIRE a couple of years ago.

Great, now we have DINKs who are getting offended. Lighten up Francis.

Maybe the proper extrapolation (which rarely exists) is that he is shaking his head at those in their 50s and not retired, which would be confusing to a card carrying MMM follower.


We had about 85 at my desk today. We were not happy. Lots of other areas were nice and cool though, so one could beat the heat by taking  the laptop elsewhere. Lucky that we are 99% mobile in my area.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9772 on: August 03, 2015, 08:11:33 PM »
Getting tired of explaining mustachianism to coworkers who have no clue ... am giving up... last person I mentioned retiring early to had just finished talking about her upcoming wedding $30,000 and counting ... ARGH ... wtf ...

I just want to get my ducks in a row so that I don't have to deal with these people anymore lol.... :)

One more debt till shovelling money into savings starts ... CAN"T WAIT!!!

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« Reply #9773 on: August 03, 2015, 08:13:42 PM »
Getting tired of explaining mustachianism to coworkers who have no clue ... am giving up... last person I mentioned retiring early to had just finished talking about her upcoming wedding $30,000 and counting ... ARGH ... wtf ...

I just want to get my ducks in a row so that I don't have to deal with these people anymore lol.... :)

One more debt till shovelling money into savings starts ... CAN"T WAIT!!!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9774 on: August 03, 2015, 10:25:11 PM »
Mine is nowhere near as bad as others (I don't really listen to other conversations). Earlier this week our work had its onsite Biometric Screening. They do it once a year for the employees who participate in the company medical plan and as an incentive those who complete the onsite biometric screening receive a $100 bonus (less taxes) in the next pay. The whole process takes 15 mins (height weight, blood pressure, pricking finger for blood to read cholesterol and other measurements). Something nice the company does to promote a healthy lifestyle. So I ask a few people if they were participating and they all said no basically saying things like "I do not have time" or "I do not feel like it". I don't know about you but for 15 minutes of my time to earn an extra $100 (less taxes) seems like a pretty good deal to me.
It sounds like they were uncomfortable telling you their real reasons, which in my case would be "my cholesterol is not my employer's business", or "I don't trust how the information will be kept safe or how it will really be used".

I've never seen a company just run out and offer "free" money - recipients are giving something up for it, in this case it is their personal health information.  Some people would consider that payment really low for the exchange.

We get a discount for our healthcare premium by completing the biometric screening and being within the guidelines. It's $1000 over the year, and I put it all into an HSA.

Overall I hate it, but I do get to go to my own PCP and submit the numbers directly to the insurance company. I honestly wouldn't get an annual check-up without being forced to get one. And I probably should go yearly with family history and all.

Our healthcare through my wife's job is like this as well. When you sign up they quote you the rates with the discounts already put in, and you get penalized for smoking, having bad biomarkers, and not taking care of them. I love it! Loss aversions is strong in most people, so setting it up so that people see it as them losing money by not being healthy is perfect.

We get $700 each, per year, tucked into the HSA as long as we do a biometric screen (height, weight, fingerprick cholesterol) and do two online modules that take about 5 minutes a piece. I do not think there is a penalty for bad scores.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9775 on: August 04, 2015, 01:41:59 AM »
Friend at work today turned up today with the most spectacular handbag I'd ever seen.

Asked her how much it cost...

"Too much". Expresses her regret by saying she's going to use it every god damn day of her life.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9776 on: August 04, 2015, 04:17:39 AM »
I don't understand how people can spend so much money on something like a handbag. If I owned anything that expensive I would probably be too worried to use it in case I left it on the bus or something.:P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9777 on: August 04, 2015, 06:06:12 AM »
@ducky Are we talking about this tank disguised as a civil vehicle?



Because of course what looks to be a 163 tons, 35ft long monstrosity is not enough because "I have a baby now".
Genius :)

That's the one. Except in red.  ;)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9778 on: August 04, 2015, 07:28:38 AM »

I'd leave because of the fans. I cannot handle air blowing on me.

Yes! Me, too! My husband HAS to have a fan on to go to sleep. If I feel any sort of breeze at all, I can't get to sleep and I have to tell him to move the fan. It could be 75 degrees, but if I feel air blowing, I get goosebumps and start shivering.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9779 on: August 04, 2015, 07:39:16 AM »
What's wrong with DINKs? I'm a DINK. But I'll be goofing off by ~40. Mostly by, you know, not being quite such a dumbass.
The funny part is, I did everything wrong for over a decade and only got serious about FIRE a couple of years ago.

The problem with us DINKs is that the repercussions for us doing things wrong for a decade are much easier to deal with than if there are kids who have to be taken into consideration.  It's easier to downsize if we're in too big/expensive a house/apartment/condo, it's easier to move to a cheaper location without worrying about school zones, it's easier to live without a car.

In more topical news, I was speaking with the regular office cleaning person the other evening when I was working late, and found out that she's 68.  Which was shocking, because she looks 50.  She had retired several years ago, but got bored, and so took this job so she wouldn't "turn into one of those old people who just sits around and watches tv".  Not what I'm planning to do when I'm fully FI, but it explains why she's always in such a good mood.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9780 on: August 04, 2015, 07:43:12 AM »
Great, now we have DINKs who are getting offended. Lighten up Francis.
Who said I was offended? I was pointing out that what was said and what was meant were probably different things. How about YOU lighten up? ;)
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Maybe the proper extrapolation (which rarely exists) is that he is shaking his head at those in their 50s and not retired, which would be confusing to a card carrying MMM follower.
Emotions are much harder to extrapolate than numbers, so I've learned to start by assuming good intentions but imprecise wording (see above). My guess is the same as yours there.
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We had about 85 at my desk today. We were not happy. Lots of other areas were nice and cool though, so one could beat the heat by taking the laptop elsewhere. Lucky that we are 99% mobile in my area.
My (huge) building is set around 75, but I sit in a small peninsula (so to speak) surrounded by huge windows so it gets to 80 or so with the actual onset of summer. This period is usually characterized by massive whining, but then people seem to magically acclimate and quiet down. It's an interesting illustration of powers most of them still don't know they have.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9781 on: August 04, 2015, 07:44:27 AM »
The problem with us DINKs is that the repercussions for us doing things wrong for a decade are much easier to deal with than if there are kids who have to be taken into consideration.  It's easier to downsize if we're in too big/expensive a house/apartment/condo, it's easier to move to a cheaper location without worrying about school zones, it's easier to live without a car.
How is that a problem?
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In more topical news, I was speaking with the regular office cleaning person the other evening when I was working late, and found out that she's 68.  Which was shocking, because she looks 50.  She had retired several years ago, but got bored, and so took this job so she wouldn't "turn into one of those old people who just sits around and watches tv".  Not what I'm planning to do when I'm fully FI, but it explains why she's always in such a good mood.
Hehe... that's pretty cool. I'd be more likely to be a barista myself, but it does take all kinds. :)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9782 on: August 04, 2015, 07:57:32 AM »
My roommate would be on that list. Even better is I'm on the opposite side. We've compromised by setting the A/C at 75 and me sitting with an afghan (yes, a blanket, in the middle of summer), and not using the A/C as much as possible because the dryness irritates my sinuses.

She insists that she can't sleep if it's 80. She insists that she can't sleep without covers. She insists that she can't sleep with just a sheet. She also insists that she can't sleep anywhere other than her bed, never mind that it's 15 degrees cooler in the fully finished basement. And it's her futon in the basement.

Sounds like it's time to dump the complainypants roommate...

that's also an option, but i think "complainypants"  gets used way too often to just refer to someone who doesn't agree with you.

doesn't sound like the room mate complains about the bill to keep it the A/C. is it really complaining to like things a certain way and ask for it? it also seems like a compromise has been established.

We were roomies for a year in college, and are now into the 3rd year of housemates. I don't want to move, don't want to pay the rent by myself, and she can't pay the rent by herself. I'm planning on buying in a few years, at which point this will be a nonissue. Until then, we have occasional issues in the summer.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9783 on: August 04, 2015, 09:21:46 AM »
In more topical news, I was speaking with the regular office cleaning person the other evening when I was working late, and found out that she's 68.  Which was shocking, because she looks 50.  She had retired several years ago, but got bored, and so took this job so she wouldn't "turn into one of those old people who just sits around and watches tv".  Not what I'm planning to do when I'm fully FI, but it explains why she's always in such a good mood.
Love it!  My bucket list for retirement includes spending a few months at each of a number of lower-paid jobs (fast food, custodial, construction, etc), just for the experience.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9784 on: August 04, 2015, 09:29:47 AM »
The problem with us DINKs is that the repercussions for us doing things wrong for a decade are much easier to deal with than if there are kids who have to be taken into consideration.  It's easier to downsize if we're in too big/expensive a house/apartment/condo, it's easier to move to a cheaper location without worrying about school zones, it's easier to live without a car.
How is that a problem?

Yeah, when I read this my first thought was, "They hate us cause they ain't us?" I saw this is someone that is also childfree, part of the reason is financial and I said this way before discovering this site or considering FIRE.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9785 on: August 04, 2015, 09:57:02 AM »
Yeah, when I read this my first thought was, "They hate us cause they ain't us?" I saw this is someone that is also childfree, part of the reason is financial and I said this way before discovering this site or considering FIRE.

My reason is 100% altruistic. That said, it's a nice added bonus to make a carefully considered decision not to procreate and find that the resulting profundity of resources makes strategic planning and rapid change (and recovering from mistakes) much easier.

I am guessing the "problem" is something like "DINKs can't understand or appreciate the struggles faced by parents trying to optimize their lifestyle"... which is about as universally accurate as saying all DINKs squander their unique financial advantage. I don't have to punch myself in the face to know it hurts*.

I don't give my sisters shit for their five kids and counting. I thank them for covering that front so my mom can be happy and I can focus on greater-good actions for the rest of my life, probably while *also* fostering and adopting kids when the time is right.

*nor do you need to get shot to be an effective surgeon ;)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9786 on: August 04, 2015, 10:27:06 AM »

*nor do you need to get shot to be an effective surgeon ;)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9787 on: August 04, 2015, 11:55:26 AM »

I'd leave because of the fans. I cannot handle air blowing on me.

Yes! Me, too! My husband HAS to have a fan on to go to sleep. If I feel any sort of breeze at all, I can't get to sleep and I have to tell him to move the fan. It could be 75 degrees, but if I feel air blowing, I get goosebumps and start shivering.

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My wife is similar, though she can have fans blowing on her, she just doesn't like it in the middle of winter :-D  I have a lot of trouble getting to sleep without a fan running.  I've slept with a fan since I was a little kid.  I'd always have trouble sleeping at friends houses, not because of the strange environment, but because there was no fan.  I remember laying awake until the central heating turned on and I fell asleep to the soothing hum.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9788 on: August 04, 2015, 12:54:35 PM »
I'm with your coworkers.  I'm sitting here in my office in a long sleeve dress shirt, undershirt, and wool dress pants.  If it's 80* in here, I'm leaving.  I came in over the weekend to prepare for a presentation this AM, and even in my t-shirt and basketball shorts it was uncomfortable at 85* with the A/C off over the weekend (news to me they did that).  I grew up in a house without central air, nothing about that is "better".
I prefer to dress in seasonally appropriate business clothing with short-sleeve dress shirts and summer-weight trousers, but most of my male coworkers seem not to understand that option is available to them. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9789 on: August 04, 2015, 01:13:38 PM »
I'm with your coworkers.  I'm sitting here in my office in a long sleeve dress shirt, undershirt, and wool dress pants.  If it's 80* in here, I'm leaving.  I came in over the weekend to prepare for a presentation this AM, and even in my t-shirt and basketball shorts it was uncomfortable at 85* with the A/C off over the weekend (news to me they did that).  I grew up in a house without central air, nothing about that is "better".
I prefer to dress in seasonally appropriate business clothing with short-sleeve dress shirts and summer-weight trousers, but most of my male coworkers seem not to understand that option is available to them.

Unless you're in tech at our company, you would look extremely dorky with short sleave dress shirts, and you do get stereotyped. Image matters in a career.

But I completely agree with you on the summer-weight. I have lighter dress shirts too, and on Fridays and days when I don't have any meetings I wear golf shirts.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9790 on: August 04, 2015, 02:15:19 PM »
Are you familiar with the works of Shan Yu?
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9791 on: August 04, 2015, 02:21:48 PM »
In summer I swap my plain black T-shirts for plain white T-shirts.

Among the other techies I'm considered something of a fashion guru

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9792 on: August 04, 2015, 03:09:50 PM »
I'm with your coworkers.  I'm sitting here in my office in a long sleeve dress shirt, undershirt, and wool dress pants.  If it's 80* in here, I'm leaving.  I came in over the weekend to prepare for a presentation this AM, and even in my t-shirt and basketball shorts it was uncomfortable at 85* with the A/C off over the weekend (news to me they did that).  I grew up in a house without central air, nothing about that is "better".
I prefer to dress in seasonally appropriate business clothing with short-sleeve dress shirts and summer-weight trousers, but most of my male coworkers seem not to understand that option is available to them.

If everyone is dressing one way at work except for you, it could be that they are not all wrong.  I work for an old, established, large company.  The culture here is you wear long sleeves and dress pants.  The temperature is set to account for that.  You can fight it, but you won't win.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9793 on: August 04, 2015, 04:39:48 PM »
I'm with your coworkers.  I'm sitting here in my office in a long sleeve dress shirt, undershirt, and wool dress pants.  If it's 80* in here, I'm leaving.  I came in over the weekend to prepare for a presentation this AM, and even in my t-shirt and basketball shorts it was uncomfortable at 85* with the A/C off over the weekend (news to me they did that).  I grew up in a house without central air, nothing about that is "better".
I prefer to dress in seasonally appropriate business clothing with short-sleeve dress shirts and summer-weight trousers, but most of my male coworkers seem not to understand that option is available to them.

If everyone is dressing one way at work except for you, it could be that they are not all wrong.  I work for an old, established, large company.  The culture here is you wear long sleeves and dress pants.  The temperature is set to account for that.  You can fight it, but you won't win.

Or, it could be that they are.   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/07/22/europe-to-america-your-love-of-air-conditioning-is-stupid/

Over air conditioning is super wasteful and using the excuse of the long-time good old boys' culture as to why the company can't progress is a lame one.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9794 on: August 04, 2015, 04:54:09 PM »
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9795 on: August 04, 2015, 05:25:15 PM »
At my work, the male managers wear dress shirts and ties with vests, and the male pharmacists wear dress shirts and ties with lab jackets. I think the AC is set to accommodate those groups of people. The managers have a fairly physically demanding job as well, which doesn't help.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9796 on: August 04, 2015, 05:47:40 PM »
At my work, the male managers wear dress shirts and ties with vests, and the male pharmacists wear dress shirts and ties with lab jackets. I think the AC is set to accommodate those groups of people. The managers have a fairly physically demanding job as well, which doesn't help.

Probably it is set based on what's generally comfortable for men in suits.

" Their study, published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change, says that most office buildings set temperatures based on a decades-old formula that uses the metabolic rates of men......
Researchers found the women’s average metabolic rate was 20 to 32 percent lower than rates in the standard chart used to set building temperature."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/science/chilly-at-work-a-decades-old-formula-may-be-to-blame.html
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9797 on: August 04, 2015, 09:13:29 PM »
I don't think the fact that, on average, Americans overuse air conditioning can possibly be up for debate.
I travel a lot for work and every time I enter in a hotel room it's like I open the fridge door.
I see many girls in offices with HEATERS.
In the summer.

But, short sleeve shirts should be a constitutional crime against style, possibly punishable by death.
Wear a polo.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9798 on: August 04, 2015, 09:20:25 PM »
Cloth isn't allowed in my building

How is cloth not allowed?

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, but when I priced it out, I figured it would be about a wash for the first child and you'd start coming out ahead with your second and any subsequent children.

Yes, fitted cloth diapers only win with the second child, because they cost a whole lot more than you would expect.

No need to buy fitteds though. Prefolds with a snappi work just as well and are heaps cheaper, so you come out ahead even on the first child.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #9799 on: August 04, 2015, 09:22:25 PM »
I don't think the fact that, on average, Americans overuse air conditioning can possibly be up for debate.
I travel a lot for work and every time I enter in a hotel room it's like I open the fridge door.
I see many girls in offices with HEATERS.
In the summer.

It's even worse than it sounds.  I've installed many an HVAC control system that included a 'tempering system' in the ductwork near an office.  This is basicly an electric resistive heater in the air conditioning ductwork, that runs to keep a particular office from getting too cool while the building/floor AC chiller is running.  It made me sick to even think about how wasteful such a system is, energy wise.  IIRC, the only reason that automatic dampers couldn't be used instead is there is some law that requires a minimum air exchange, and the damper method couldn't be certain to make that regulation.