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« Reply #8350 on: May 18, 2015, 12:44:04 PM »
My coworker is about to go back to school. I was discussing how when I attended the same program I used to ride the bus (free with student ID) to save money on parking. Oh, no, he says, he'd rather drive every day, even though he lives literally right on the other side of campus. He could walk, but it's further than he wants to walk. My guess would be a 20-30 minute walk or less if he took the campus shuttle bus. By the time he gets across campus by car in horrific morning traffic, parks, and walks in, he's going to take almost that long. But he wants the extra sleep, which he doesn't seem to realize is going to be maybe 5-10 minutes a day. He reasons he's already borrowing a ton of money for school and what's a little more for parking. The only reasoning he had which would have held any water for me is that if he wanted to go somewhere right after class he'd want his car right there rather than having to hike back and get it.

I just looked it up and a parking pass costs about $300 a year, or more like $750 if you want garage access, which he does. I also think he may not realize that the garage pass probably will not get him access to the garages most convenient to our program.

When I was in school, a neighbor drove to class everyday.  He had to park on the wrong side of campus (since he didn't want to wake up 25minutes earlier to get a parking spot in a closer lot), then catch a bus to the main part of campus.  I walked 2 blocks to the normal bus stop and rode the free bus in (had to switch buses on campus to get to the right spot on campus).  I would spend less time from "leaves house" to "gets to class" than he would.  He paid $275/yr plus gas for the 'convenience' of waiting in traffic and taking longer.

The part that also gets me is that walking 20 minutes each way will do wonders for the person's health. That's at least a mile and as someone that finds walking to be a relaxing and easy way to unwind, I recommend it for others.

I walk 2 miles to work and 2 miles home. I've timed it multiple times, it takes me ~36 minutes one way, regardless of which cross-walks I hit/miss. My friends/co-workers think I'm crazy... I sit in front of a computer, in a cubicle with no window in sight ALL DAY. I'll take the little bit of time outside + slight exercise, thank you!
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« Reply #8351 on: May 18, 2015, 12:50:14 PM »
My coworker is about to go back to school. I was discussing how when I attended the same program I used to ride the bus (free with student ID) to save money on parking. Oh, no, he says, he'd rather drive every day, even though he lives literally right on the other side of campus. He could walk, but it's further than he wants to walk. My guess would be a 20-30 minute walk or less if he took the campus shuttle bus. By the time he gets across campus by car in horrific morning traffic, parks, and walks in, he's going to take almost that long. But he wants the extra sleep, which he doesn't seem to realize is going to be maybe 5-10 minutes a day. He reasons he's already borrowing a ton of money for school and what's a little more for parking. The only reasoning he had which would have held any water for me is that if he wanted to go somewhere right after class he'd want his car right there rather than having to hike back and get it.

I just looked it up and a parking pass costs about $300 a year, or more like $750 if you want garage access, which he does. I also think he may not realize that the garage pass probably will not get him access to the garages most convenient to our program.

When I was in school, a neighbor drove to class everyday.  He had to park on the wrong side of campus (since he didn't want to wake up 25minutes earlier to get a parking spot in a closer lot), then catch a bus to the main part of campus.  I walked 2 blocks to the normal bus stop and rode the free bus in (had to switch buses on campus to get to the right spot on campus).  I would spend less time from "leaves house" to "gets to class" than he would.  He paid $275/yr plus gas for the 'convenience' of waiting in traffic and taking longer.

The part that also gets me is that walking 20 minutes each way will do wonders for the person's health. That's at least a mile and as someone that finds walking to be a relaxing and easy way to unwind, I recommend it for others.

I walk 2 miles to work and 2 miles home. I've timed it multiple times, it takes me ~36 minutes one way, regardless of which cross-walks I hit/miss. My friends/co-workers think I'm crazy... I sit in front of a computer, in a cubicle with no window in sight ALL DAY. I'll take the little bit of time outside + slight exercise, thank you!

36 minutes isn't even that bad of a commute compared to a lot of people, and to have it be 100% exercise and fresh air, how is that not win-win-win

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8352 on: May 18, 2015, 01:20:19 PM »
It is worth working 7.5 hours every two weeks (not including taxes!) just to avoid worrying about mascara?

I use the time-honored yet radical method of "not wearing mascara" in order to avoid worrying about mascara. Totally worth it ;-)

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« Reply #8353 on: May 18, 2015, 03:09:54 PM »
Co-worker today: "have you heard of Hot Pot?"  She explained it's a new thing where you select ingredients and then cook them yourself in a stew

Me:  "Did you go to your GF's house or cook it at your place?"

Co-worker: "No at this new Asian restaurant"

Me: "So you pay a restaurant while you cook your own food?"

Co-worker: "But you also get sushi"

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« Reply #8354 on: May 18, 2015, 03:12:45 PM »
Co-worker today: "have you heard of Hot Pot?"  She explained it's a new thing where you select ingredients and then cook them yourself in a stew

Me:  "Did you go to your GF's house or cook it at your place?"

Co-worker: "No at this new Asian restaurant"

Me: "So you pay a restaurant while you cook your own food?"

Co-worker: "But you also get sushi"

It's really tasty and honestly worth doing. That said, if you plan ahead you can do it at home. One of my best friends is a great cook and her favorite restaurant here in town is nearly solely Hot Pot only and she wants to go often.

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« Reply #8355 on: May 18, 2015, 03:19:43 PM »
I haven't been to hot pot, but I've been to korean BBQ places where you cook your own stuff, and melting pot (fondue) where you do the same.

It's fun and delicious.
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« Reply #8356 on: May 18, 2015, 03:36:04 PM »
Hot pot and korean barbecue and etc are pretty cool. As always, in moderation.

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« Reply #8357 on: May 18, 2015, 04:52:10 PM »
Co-worker today: "have you heard of Hot Pot?"  She explained it's a new thing where you select ingredients and then cook them yourself in a stew

Me:  "Did you go to your GF's house or cook it at your place?"

Co-worker: "No at this new Asian restaurant"

Me: "So you pay a restaurant while you cook your own food?"

Co-worker: "But you also get sushi"

Hot Pot is fantastic and if you get authentic Sichuan Hot Pot, it is pretty much the best thing ever. It is also hard to make at home unless you bring the right soup bases back from China and you don't mind your house and EVERYTHING in it smelling like Hot Pot for more than a week. That being said, I make it at home all the time, but do enjoy the occasionally Hot Pot out so I don't have to deal with the smell.

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« Reply #8358 on: May 18, 2015, 09:49:55 PM »
My coworker is about to go back to school. I was discussing how when I attended the same program I used to ride the bus (free with student ID) to save money on parking. Oh, no, he says, he'd rather drive every day, even though he lives literally right on the other side of campus. He could walk, but it's further than he wants to walk. My guess would be a 20-30 minute walk or less if he took the campus shuttle bus. By the time he gets across campus by car in horrific morning traffic, parks, and walks in, he's going to take almost that long. But he wants the extra sleep, which he doesn't seem to realize is going to be maybe 5-10 minutes a day. He reasons he's already borrowing a ton of money for school and what's a little more for parking. The only reasoning he had which would have held any water for me is that if he wanted to go somewhere right after class he'd want his car right there rather than having to hike back and get it.

I just looked it up and a parking pass costs about $300 a year, or more like $750 if you want garage access, which he does. I also think he may not realize that the garage pass probably will not get him access to the garages most convenient to our program.

When I was in school, a neighbor drove to class everyday.  He had to park on the wrong side of campus (since he didn't want to wake up 25minutes earlier to get a parking spot in a closer lot), then catch a bus to the main part of campus.  I walked 2 blocks to the normal bus stop and rode the free bus in (had to switch buses on campus to get to the right spot on campus).  I would spend less time from "leaves house" to "gets to class" than he would.  He paid $275/yr plus gas for the 'convenience' of waiting in traffic and taking longer.

Mindboggling. My coworker is a smart guy. Maybe he will figure this out. I told my husband and he said this guy should buy a bike. I'm going to have to suggest that to him when I see him next.

When I was in school, I had a classmate who lived right next to the shuttle bus stop. A couple of quarters I did buy a parking pass to park in the far-out lot and rode this bus which dropped me off right across from our classes. So I rode with this gal and she told me that usually she rode this bus (which took about 10 minutes) but sometimes she drove... headscratch.

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« Reply #8359 on: May 19, 2015, 07:20:45 AM »
I've gone out for hot pot before and like it.  I think it would be too hard to do at home.
I've never  gone out for fondue because it seems so expensive (and we don't have a place here)- but it is pretty expensive to make at home too if you get good quality cheeses (and you need a lot of pots if you want cheese, oil, and dessert).  But I think it would be beneficial, if people wanted different cheese mixtures, to not have to buy and make ALL of that.

The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

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« Reply #8360 on: May 19, 2015, 08:49:29 AM »
Different kind of crazy: I had a co-worker who inherited a condo in NYC, plus a bunch of money.  I mean millions of dollars.  She worked this miserable job and always working extra OT.  One day I went to borrow a pen from her and what did i see in her drawer?  Probably $40,000 worth of uncashed paychecks.  She said she was "saving them for a rainy day".  Far as I know, she died saving for a rainy day.  Good frugality IQ, terrible quality of life filter.

Uhm, Is that allowed? I was under the impression that checks went bad after a specific time, ("stale" I think is the word our payroll uses). Additionally, I know alot of companies set up specific accounts to do paychecks out of. Won't there be a delay when she tries to cash those all at once since the bank will probably want to double-check with the issuer due to their size and age?

Kind of defeats the point of a rainy-day fund if she has to wait for the checks to clear, doesn't it?

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« Reply #8361 on: May 19, 2015, 09:13:11 AM »
Different kind of crazy: I had a co-worker who inherited a condo in NYC, plus a bunch of money.  I mean millions of dollars.  She worked this miserable job and always working extra OT.  One day I went to borrow a pen from her and what did i see in her drawer?  Probably $40,000 worth of uncashed paychecks.  She said she was "saving them for a rainy day".  Far as I know, she died saving for a rainy day.  Good frugality IQ, terrible quality of life filter.

Uhm, Is that allowed? I was under the impression that checks went bad after a specific time, ("stale" I think is the word our payroll uses). Additionally, I know alot of companies set up specific accounts to do paychecks out of. Won't there be a delay when she tries to cash those all at once since the bank will probably want to double-check with the issuer due to their size and age?

Kind of defeats the point of a rainy-day fund if she has to wait for the checks to clear, doesn't it?

Also, what's the harm in cashing them and keeping them in your bank for that rainy day? You wouldn't get much interest, if any, but at least the money is yours and if under 250k, FDIC protected.

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« Reply #8362 on: May 19, 2015, 09:17:16 AM »
It is just a complete misunderstanding of how money works.

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« Reply #8363 on: May 19, 2015, 09:19:24 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

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« Reply #8364 on: May 19, 2015, 09:56:41 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

Hate those places....if I wanted too cook I'd stay home!!!

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« Reply #8365 on: May 19, 2015, 10:11:23 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

Just normal steak I would think (never went in, because the idea is ridiculous).  Is there any other type (I mean without getting into like Kobe beef or something)? I think anything a restaurant can get a good butcher could get. They do take care of trimming it.

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Add $3 if you want them to grill it.
Though there are apparently some places that don't have that option, based on this blog post: http://www.foodfightradio.com/claire-ification-cook-your-own-steak-restaurants/

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« Reply #8366 on: May 19, 2015, 10:15:53 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

Just normal steak I would think (never went in, because the idea is ridiculous).  Is there any other type (I mean without getting into like Kobe beef or something)? I think anything a restaurant can get a good butcher could get. They do take care of trimming it.

http://www.theopenflame.com/?page_id=3
Add $3 if you want them to grill it.
Though there are apparently some places that don't have that option, based on this blog post: http://www.foodfightradio.com/claire-ification-cook-your-own-steak-restaurants/

So let me get this strait.  You goto a restaurant, pay them more for a steak, and grill it yourself.  That is a brilliant business model. No overhead as far as cooks go.

Crazy to think people do this. Buy a steak grill it yourself at home and save some money... OMG

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« Reply #8367 on: May 19, 2015, 10:24:39 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?
Oh gosh, my old quilting group loved our local "cook your own steak" place and wanted to go annually.  Seriously, if I wanted to cook my own steak, I would stay home and cook my own steak!! If I am going out, I want someone else cooking my steak!!

I like hot pot.  My good friend is Chinese, and she's had us over for it for New Year's a couple of times.  No idea how hard it is.

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« Reply #8368 on: May 19, 2015, 10:32:47 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

I've never been, and probably will never go to such a place. I imagine the appeal to some people is somewhat nicer cuts of steak than a supermarket and not having to clean off the grill afterwards.

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« Reply #8369 on: May 19, 2015, 10:41:51 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

I've never been, and probably will never go to such a place. I imagine the appeal to some people is somewhat nicer cuts of steak than a supermarket and not having to clean off the grill afterwards.


cleaning the grill?  My grill cleaning consists of rubbing it with a wire brush for like 10 seconds once it's hot.

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« Reply #8370 on: May 19, 2015, 10:42:56 AM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

I've never been, and probably will never go to such a place. I imagine the appeal to some people is somewhat nicer cuts of steak than a supermarket and not having to clean off the grill afterwards.

The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

I've never been, and probably will never go to such a place. I imagine the appeal to some people is somewhat nicer cuts of steak than a supermarket and not having to clean off the grill afterwards.


cleaning the grill?  My grill cleaning consists of rubbing it with a wire brush for like 10 seconds once it's hot.

Looked it up and appears to be a concept that is growing.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/17/garden/steakhouses-that-let-you-cook-as-well-as-pay.html

This isn't something for me, but I can see some of the appeal. I'm not a fan of grilling and generally prefer other dishes over steak, but for someone that enjoys both I can see them enjoying this.

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« Reply #8371 on: May 19, 2015, 10:53:44 AM »
I could see taking someone there as a gift...say Father's Day?

If the dad really likes to grill for everyone, but then doesn't have to clean the grill, prepare things, etc.

(He may like that part too, but it could work for some people.)

In general though I wouldn't do this style for just steaks.
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« Reply #8372 on: May 19, 2015, 10:58:21 AM »
cleaning the grill?  My grill cleaning consists of rubbing it with a wire brush for like 10 seconds once it's hot.

But that's like TEN SECONDS OF RUBBING

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« Reply #8373 on: May 19, 2015, 11:04:56 AM »
cleaning the grill?  My grill cleaning consists of rubbing it with a wire brush for like 10 seconds once it's hot.

But that's like TEN SECONDS OF RUBBING

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« Reply #8374 on: May 19, 2015, 11:14:42 AM »
cleaning the grill?  My grill cleaning consists of rubbing it with a wire brush for like 10 seconds once it's hot.

But that's like TEN SECONDS OF RUBBING

...that's what she said.

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« Reply #8375 on: May 19, 2015, 12:06:19 PM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?
Oh gosh, my old quilting group loved our local "cook your own steak" place and wanted to go annually.  Seriously, if I wanted to cook my own steak, I would stay home and cook my own steak!! If I am going out, I want someone else cooking my steak!!

I like hot pot.  My good friend is Chinese, and she's had us over for it for New Year's a couple of times.  No idea how hard it is.

I have yet to have homemade hotpot that beats restaurant hotpot; nothing has ever even come close.

Hotpot is one of those things I would gladly pay for to have at a restaurant.

That and Pho...mmmm...delicious.

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« Reply #8376 on: May 19, 2015, 12:36:30 PM »
I have yet to have homemade hotpot that beats restaurant hotpot; nothing has ever even come close.

Hotpot is one of those things I would gladly pay for to have at a restaurant.

That and Pho...mmmm...delicious.

And ramen.  Moving from Ohio to SF, when friends told me I had to try ramen I'd always say 'like those packets of noodles I used to buy in college for 16 cents?'.  Then I finally went to a real ramen restaurant and holy crap, that is now my favorite restaurant to go to here.  But making real ramen broth at home is quite the process.  I'd like to try it sometime, but I know it'll be a long time before I can come close to a good restaurant.

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« Reply #8377 on: May 19, 2015, 12:59:40 PM »
I have yet to have homemade hotpot that beats restaurant hotpot; nothing has ever even come close.

Hotpot is one of those things I would gladly pay for to have at a restaurant.

That and Pho...mmmm...delicious.

And ramen.  Moving from Ohio to SF, when friends told me I had to try ramen I'd always say 'like those packets of noodles I used to buy in college for 16 cents?'.  Then I finally went to a real ramen restaurant and holy crap, that is now my favorite restaurant to go to here.  But making real ramen broth at home is quite the process.  I'd like to try it sometime, but I know it'll be a long time before I can come close to a good restaurant.

There's a guy in Japantown SF that makes his own noodles on a practically archaic noodle making machine in that sits in the window.  It's impressive.  Very tasty.

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« Reply #8378 on: May 19, 2015, 01:07:23 PM »
I have yet to have homemade hotpot that beats restaurant hotpot; nothing has ever even come close.

Hotpot is one of those things I would gladly pay for to have at a restaurant.

That and Pho...mmmm...delicious.

And ramen.  Moving from Ohio to SF, when friends told me I had to try ramen I'd always say 'like those packets of noodles I used to buy in college for 16 cents?'.  Then I finally went to a real ramen restaurant and holy crap, that is now my favorite restaurant to go to here.  But making real ramen broth at home is quite the process.  I'd like to try it sometime, but I know it'll be a long time before I can come close to a good restaurant.

There's a guy in Japantown SF that makes his own noodles on a practically archaic noodle making machine in that sits in the window.  It's impressive.  Very tasty.

Yeah I was amazed the first time I tried proper ramen. My cousin ordered it at a Japanese restaurant we were at and I was like, "Why not order sushi since you can always make ramen at home," he smiled and offered me a bite when it came and I was silenced...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8379 on: May 19, 2015, 01:21:58 PM »
A co-worker explained to me yesterday that he had to buy two cars for his two kids yesterday - because you can't just buy one, you have to get one for each of them. But the bank was able to do a signature loan for $10k for him, so he was able to pay cash for the cars.

Huh. Maybe buying with cash doesn't mean the same thing to everybody?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8380 on: May 19, 2015, 01:25:22 PM »
A co-worker explained to me yesterday that he had to buy two cars for his two kids yesterday - because you can't just buy one, you have to get one for each of them. But the bank was able to do a signature loan for $10k for him, so he was able to pay cash for the cars.

Huh. Maybe buying with cash doesn't mean the same thing to everybody?
You mean you have to pay signature loans back?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8381 on: May 19, 2015, 01:38:53 PM »
Maybe buying with cash doesn't mean the same thing to everybody?

I had a first-time customer that placed an order and called in to confirm it and pay it with a credit card and wanted a discount because, "I am paying with cash." My office manager told me he burst out laughing and told the guy to learn what the term means. The customer basically meant that he wasn't asking for terms and so he wanted a discount...he ended up paying full price and later we negotiated a 1% discount on future orders if he prepaid in actually cash.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8382 on: May 19, 2015, 01:42:48 PM »
A co-worker explained to me yesterday that he had to buy two cars for his two kids yesterday - because you can't just buy one, you have to get one for each of them. But the bank was able to do a signature loan for $10k for him, so he was able to pay cash for the cars.

Huh. Maybe buying with cash doesn't mean the same thing to everybody?

Maybe he meant he didn't have liens against the titles... So much still wrong here though...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8383 on: May 19, 2015, 01:46:40 PM »

You mean you have to pay signature loans back?

You mean you have to pay loans back?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8384 on: May 19, 2015, 01:47:28 PM »

You mean you have to pay signature loans back?

You mean you have to pay loans back?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8385 on: May 19, 2015, 03:16:53 PM »
Reposession for everyone :(

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8386 on: May 19, 2015, 05:58:50 PM »
I have yet to have homemade hotpot that beats restaurant hotpot; nothing has ever even come close.

Hotpot is one of those things I would gladly pay for to have at a restaurant.

That and Pho...mmmm...delicious.

And ramen.  Moving from Ohio to SF, when friends told me I had to try ramen I'd always say 'like those packets of noodles I used to buy in college for 16 cents?'.  Then I finally went to a real ramen restaurant and holy crap, that is now my favorite restaurant to go to here.  But making real ramen broth at home is quite the process.  I'd like to try it sometime, but I know it'll be a long time before I can come close to a good restaurant.

Agreed. Not worth the effort unless you plan on making a huge quantity of stock and freezing it...but even then, the trade-off just doesn't make sense.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8387 on: May 19, 2015, 06:00:30 PM »
Today was the CTO's birthday. His executive assistant ordered a cake from Magnolia Bakery. I think it was probably a 12 or 14 inch round cake--not large at all. She said it cost $80!!!!! I know it was probably the company's money and not hers but holy shit who pays $80 for a fucking cake???

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8388 on: May 19, 2015, 06:06:52 PM »
Today was the CTO's birthday. His executive assistant ordered a cake from Magnolia Bakery. I think it was probably a 12 or 14 inch round cake--not large at all. She said it cost $80!!!!! I know it was probably the company's money and not hers but holy shit who pays $80 for a fucking cake???

Corporate expense accounts apparently.  Do fancy bakery employees make more than Dunkin Donuts empoyees?  $80 might actually be the true cost of a custom cake made for you.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8389 on: May 19, 2015, 06:08:13 PM »
I don't really like hot pot, but the times I've gone it's been pretty inexpensive and all you can eat.  Basically don't eat for a few days and fill up.  It could be frugal as long as you don't fill up on veggies/broth/whatever.  THATS HOW THEY GET YOU

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8390 on: May 19, 2015, 06:18:41 PM »
Different kind of crazy: I had a co-worker who inherited a condo in NYC, plus a bunch of money.  I mean millions of dollars.  She worked this miserable job and always working extra OT.  One day I went to borrow a pen from her and what did i see in her drawer?  Probably $40,000 worth of uncashed paychecks.  She said she was "saving them for a rainy day".  Far as I know, she died saving for a rainy day.  Good frugality IQ, terrible quality of life filter.

Uhm, Is that allowed? I was under the impression that checks went bad after a specific time, ("stale" I think is the word our payroll uses). Additionally, I know alot of companies set up specific accounts to do paychecks out of. Won't there be a delay when she tries to cash those all at once since the bank will probably want to double-check with the issuer due to their size and age?
Kind of defeats the point of a rainy-day fund if she has to wait for the checks to clear, doesn't it?

Thirty years ago I read the biography of George Washington Carver. Even as a little kid, I was fairly mustachian. His life story was fascinating, but what stuck with me the longest was the fact that he never cashed his paychecks. Just laid them, one on top of another, in his desk drawer...week after week. Eventually, The Tuskegee Institute where he was employed would call and remind him to cash them before they expired. At that point, he usually signed them over to needy people instead of using the money for himself. Pretty amazing.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8391 on: May 19, 2015, 07:01:33 PM »
I could see taking someone there as a gift...say Father's Day?

If the dad really likes to grill for everyone, but then doesn't have to clean the grill, prepare things, etc.

(He may like that part too, but it could work for some people.)

In general though I wouldn't do this style for just steaks.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8392 on: May 19, 2015, 07:13:00 PM »
The thing that gets me is the 'grill your own steak' places.  I fail to see how that differentiates from grilling at home.  But I know people WHO love it.  It's like a steakhouse, but they let you cook your own steak.  um, What? 
I guess it saves you from having to make side dishes?  The idea baffles me.

Never heard of this concept, is it just a normal steak that they provide to you to grill?

Just normal steak I would think (never went in, because the idea is ridiculous).  Is there any other type (I mean without getting into like Kobe beef or something)? I think anything a restaurant can get a good butcher could get. They do take care of trimming it.

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Add $3 if you want them to grill it.
Though there are apparently some places that don't have that option, based on this blog post: http://www.foodfightradio.com/claire-ification-cook-your-own-steak-restaurants/

So let me get this strait.  You goto a restaurant, pay them more for a steak, and grill it yourself.  That is a brilliant business model. No overhead as far as cooks go.

Crazy to think people do this. Buy a steak grill it yourself at home and save some money... OMG

I've never heard of the grill your own steak places. Do you have to leave a tip in these kinds of places? I guess someone has to bring the plate and raw steak over to you after all.

The best part of going out for steak vs. at home steak is that I've never mastered the skill of making my own medium rare steaks. Restaurants seem to do this well. Other than that, grilling a steak is easy. Count me out of the grill-your-own-steak-and-pay-restaurant-prices club.

I'm also anti-fondue places. Once, I went to a fondue place on the top of a ski mountain for dinner because that's what my friends wanted. It cost $50 per person! And I am cooking my food and smelling like fried stuff afterwards! For that, i'll stay home. Now, this was $50 in the 90s and in a prime location on top of a mountain so I'm guessing the price for that dinner is higher these days. I'm also not a cheese eater so fondue loses its charm on me. Luckily, I've been able to deflect any fondue restaurant invitations since then.

Never heard of hot pots. They sound interesting. I've been to Korean BBQ and I guess I can see SOME benefit to that with the spices they provide.

I much prefer having people cook for me if I am already spending restaurant level prices for food. I haven't found these cook-your-own-meal places to be any cheaper than regular restaurants.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8393 on: May 19, 2015, 07:13:17 PM »
I could see taking someone there as a gift...say Father's Day?

If the dad really likes to grill for everyone, but then doesn't have to clean the grill, prepare things, etc.

(He may like that part too, but it could work for some people.)

In general though I wouldn't do this style for just steaks.

I got a flyer the other day from one of the vent cleaning places- They will clean your Dad's grill for just $35!  ( this counts I work from home.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8394 on: May 19, 2015, 08:16:27 PM »
Different kind of crazy: I had a co-worker who inherited a condo in NYC, plus a bunch of money.  I mean millions of dollars.  She worked this miserable job and always working extra OT.  One day I went to borrow a pen from her and what did i see in her drawer?  Probably $40,000 worth of uncashed paychecks.  She said she was "saving them for a rainy day".  Far as I know, she died saving for a rainy day.  Good frugality IQ, terrible quality of life filter.

Uhm, Is that allowed? I was under the impression that checks went bad after a specific time, ("stale" I think is the word our payroll uses). Additionally, I know alot of companies set up specific accounts to do paychecks out of. Won't there be a delay when she tries to cash those all at once since the bank will probably want to double-check with the issuer due to their size and age?

Kind of defeats the point of a rainy-day fund if she has to wait for the checks to clear, doesn't it?

This is actually the most common form of saving for blue collar workers.  Can't spend what isn't in your bank account (or more accurately what you haven't already cashed in at the check cashing store).  Stick a few paychecks under the mattress and then bust them out at Christmas to pay for your shipping / vacation.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8395 on: May 19, 2015, 08:16:38 PM »
If we're still talking about cook your own whatever, here's what I've tried, and my opinions of it.

Hot Pot. How it works:

You get a table, in the middle of the table is a big pot or two; the pots are often divided into reasonably water-tight sections. Each section of each pot has broth in it that you choose. For example, you can choose spicy beef broth and chicken broth - that's why you can get the pot divided so the broths don't mix, and why you can get multiple pots, depending on how many people are at the table. The broths have vegetables and whatever.

Next, they bring you a "menu" (since it's all-you-can-eat, it's basically a checklist) of various things, or you go to a buffet-style table of various things. Usually thinly sliced meats, vegetables, misc stuff like eggs, and more fun stuff like octopus or whatever. You select what you want, the bring it over, you drop it in the water until you decide it's done, you eat it. If you're still hungry, repeat and get new things until you're not. You generally get to try the entire menu, depending on how adventurous you are.

If you know how to make the broth at home, easy... it's called making soup. If you don't, it's not easy at all. Takes time and effort to make the broth base properly. And of course you would eat it as soup at home, and not a hot pot where you cook the stuff then fish it back out to eat.

Fondue. How it works:

They bring over melted cheese or chocolate, put it on a little pedestal with a flame to keep it hot and melted, and various things to dip into it. Dip. Eat. Repeat until you've finished your food. It's not really a you-cook-it deal, more like a you-dip-it deal. Easy to do at home, and much cheaper, but fun.

Korean BBQ with one of those hot plates in the middle. How it works:

You get a table, in the middle of the table is a propane burner (or natural gas or whatever), on top of that is a big seasoned cast iron grate. Generally, it's a lot like hot pot - menu, or buffet-style table - but the food is different. You usually get much thicker slabs of food (whereas hotpot slices to ~1mm, you're looking more at ~5-8mm probably) because you're cooking on a much hotter surface. The food is usually meat, seafood, vegetables; pre-seasoned and marinated. You get what you want, slap it on your thing, wait until you think it's done, and eat it. If you know how to make korean-style meat, it's trivial to do at home. If not, it's quite hard.

Cook your own steak type places. How it works:

You usually order off a menu, select your protein and your sides. They cook the sides, bring them over with the uncooked protein, and some sort of cooking apparatus (could be a super hot slab of rock, could be some sort of grill.) You cook the protein to your desired level of done-ness. Depending on the setup, you may find that instead of putting the food on, cooking it, taking it off, cutting and eating it, you instead cut, cook small pieces, and eat right off the cooking thing. It works pretty well. Of course, these tend to be pretty western-style dishes so if you know how to cook western-style food, it's much easier to do it at home. The key is to go to a butcher or fish-monger to get proper meat/fish instead of cheap grocery store cuts. To their defense, though, if you always find restaurant steak not cooked to your tastes, well, this gives you perfect control over doneness.

TLDR the more foreign (to you) the cooking style, the more it makes sense to go to one of these places. The better you can cook it yourself, the less sense it makes.

(This is also why I almost never order stuff like pasta dishes or burgers when I go out. I can make it myself, why pay 4x-10x + tip as much?)

I have been to all of these places and I am not exactly yearning to go back. Then again, I don't eat out terribly often either, I'm just reasonably adventurous.

Also, in case anyone is wondering, all-you-can-eat sushi (with a proper menu and fresh fish, these are hit or miss) is probably my favorite type of restaurant if they do it right. Again, not often, but once in a while... fuck yes.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8396 on: May 19, 2015, 09:17:08 PM »
Gimp, you need to try the real hotspot/kbbq/sushi, not the North American stuff you're describing.

It's all so delicious.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8397 on: May 19, 2015, 09:39:40 PM »
Hot pot is one of my favorite things to eat in China. Never tried it in the US though. Do the US restaurants make you fish all the cooked bits out of the communal pot using chop sticks? There's great entertainment value in watching the clumsy American (me) try to grab various bits out of the boiling stock with chop sticks.

I've always assumed that the Chinese-style meals where you pick food out of communal dishes would be some kind of health code violation in the US. I've never been to authentic Chinese restaurants in the US though (never lived in a city big enough to have any.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8398 on: May 19, 2015, 11:37:47 PM »
I love hotpot!

In Singapore, there are many hotpot and bbq (and even those with combinations of both) restaurants with various styles. You can have it in Chinese, Korean, Japanese and even Thai style. They are ala carte versions where you pay for what you order, and buffet versions where you pay a fixed amount ($20-$40) and you can eat all you want.

They are all super delicious! The Chinese style have herbal and sichuan spicy soup base while Thai Mookatas has a basic chicken soup base and a unique bbq pot design where all the juice from the bbq meat would drip into the soup making it more tasty over time.

The problem here is that while I love eating hotpot, it's quite expensive and I tend to overeat so I only do it when there's a special occasion or gatherings with friends and family.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #8399 on: May 20, 2015, 07:18:52 AM »
Fondue. How it works:

They bring over melted cheese or chocolate, put it on a little pedestal with a flame to keep it hot and melted, and various things to dip into it. Dip. Eat. Repeat until you've finished your food. It's not really a you-cook-it deal, more like a you-dip-it deal. Easy to do at home, and much cheaper, but fun.
You've never had broth or oil fondue? That's what we do (at home) every year for Christmas and it's definitely you-cook-it: raw pork, chicken, steak, and cut up vegetables that you cook and eat. It's not dipping strawberries in chocolate or broccoli in cheese, which are more like a party thing and less like fondue. It's killer with broth or oil, you should try it sometime.