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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7600 on: April 06, 2015, 11:09:49 AM »
@QuirkyNurse: Have you tried to show them the numbers? She must pay a lot of interest.
People who think they deserve a thousand-dollar purse more than they deserve to be debt-free, and people who are swayed by numbers, as illustrated by Venn diagram:
     
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bahahaha, that made my day.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7601 on: April 06, 2015, 11:21:03 AM »
@QuirkyNurse: Have you tried to show them the numbers? She must pay a lot of interest.
People who think they deserve a thousand-dollar purse more than they deserve to be debt-free, and people who are swayed by numbers, as illustrated by Venn diagram:
     
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People who think they deserve a thousand dollar purse more than they deserve to be debt free probably do.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7602 on: April 06, 2015, 11:36:18 AM »
Discussing a TV show competition (Biggest Loser) with a cash payout:

Me: With a prize of $250k on the line, I would pretty much do anything to guarantee the win and the cash.
CW1: $250k really isn't that much
CW2: Yeah, $250k is basically only a house - I wouldn’t go that crazy.
Me: “blank stare…”

I mean it isn't enough to do "anything"-- I wouldn't risk my health or life to win 250k.  I've never watched the show but I'm guessing you basically have to lose weight at an unhealthy rate to win (Maybe it's ok if a doctor is supplementing)
While I agree it's probably not healthy  to drop that much weight that quickly. However the argument could be made that being 2x or more over what your bodyweight should be is just as bad if not worse . I used to really enjoy the show atleast the actual weight loss part and watching them progress. Most of the contestants had a very long list of medical problems onset by being overweight and having a horrible diet.
Actually, I read something recently (in the last year), that dropping weight quickly can be a very good thing, for obese or overweight individuals.

The reason is the motivation.

It depends on the person, the body type, etc.  But the heavier you are, in general the faster you lose weight. Losing quickly is a big motivator to keep going.
On the other hand, if you only have 5-10 lbs to lose, it's a lot harder to lose.  You may put in a lot of effort to lose 0.5 to 1 lb a week.  It is hard to stay motivated with that.

Of course I'm sure there are always people who take it too far - you need to fuel your body.

Like MMM who recommends the "hair on fire" method - it's similar, no?  Lots of parallels.

I enjoy BL.  I probably remember the friend also.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 11:43:14 AM by mm1970 »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7603 on: April 06, 2015, 11:41:14 AM »
bahahaha, that made my day.

You're welcome. ;)

People who think they deserve a thousand dollar purse more than they deserve to be debt free probably do.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7604 on: April 06, 2015, 11:41:43 AM »
@QuirkyNurse: Have you tried to show them the numbers? She must pay a lot of interest.
People who think they deserve a thousand-dollar purse more than they deserve to be debt-free, and people who are swayed by numbers, as illustrated by Venn diagram:
     
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Mine too! Love some math humor :-)

bahahaha, that made my day.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7605 on: April 06, 2015, 11:45:33 AM »
There's a pretty good metaphor, but pointing it out on this forum just gets butthurt fatties telling you you're wrong. We've been down this road, it's pretty sad; apparently excess expenditure is bad but excess eating (which, by the way, costs a lot of money) is "not their fault." To their credit, probably half the folks here agree with you, though, so hooray, 50%.

I need to point out here that I don't want to be associated with calling anyone a "fattie."  This is the kind of language that would get my hackles up if I was struggling with my weight, and I don't want to start another flame fest about it. 

I think I was trying to say that losing weight in a dedicated and intense effort, as opposed to slowly, is related to what some of us are doing here in terms of saving money at an accelerated rate relative to the general population.  For some people, looking at a slow weight loss over a very long period is so intimidating that they never start-- treating it like a "hair on fire" emergency is going to be more successful.

This was in response to the person who said that slower weight loss was probably physically more healthy than faster weight loss-- which may be true, but there is a psychological factor regarding making deep sacrifices for a shorter period vs. marginal sacrifices for a very long time, that I think Mustachians can appreciate.
In addition to the psychological factor, there's biology.  The body is pretty good at maintaining a "set point", so slow weight loss can be, well, slow.  Meaning, for most people, cutting 100 calories a day will NOT result in the "calculated" 10 pounds a year weight loss.  It just won't.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7606 on: April 06, 2015, 03:34:08 PM »
Is body confusion actually a thing? Sounds a bit like "muscle confusion"....


off thread topic:

No, it is not. If your body thinks you are starving, it's because you are starving. If you are in "starvation mode" your body is actually shutting down, which is a bad thing to aim for. It takes a shit load of not eating to get into this range.

The cheat day concept helps with gherlin / leptin which is psychological (not discounting as psychological is huge in weight loss). It inhibits a day of weight loss, but you in a deficit effectively 5 of 7 days which can be enough if you do it right. Really you want to aim for something around a pound a week (more if you are in the higher obesity levels, less if you are just a tiny person to begin with). Anything slower and mm1970 addressed it - you just won't lose weight. NEAT gets affected quite a bit if you are cutting, so you are less fidgety and such and your TDEE ends up being lower than you think.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7607 on: April 06, 2015, 04:32:32 PM »
If you eat the same amount of calories everyday your body will adjust by lowering your metabolism. That is why dieting often leads to gaining more weight then what you lost.  The cheat day prevents this from happening.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7608 on: April 06, 2015, 06:15:30 PM »
I don't mean to be snooty, but gee whiz!

The phrase 'gee whiz' automatically cancels out any snootiness in a post. See also: gee wilikers, aw shucks and goodness gracious.

Overheard at work - me giggling out loud to this. Very much needed.  Wish I had something more relevant to post but my coworkers tend to not say anything too ridiculous... Most annoying is the "awesome kohls sales" but those statements are generally balanced with talk of thrift store finds, public library love, diy suggestions (although this makes sense since we're mostly engineers)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7609 on: April 06, 2015, 09:39:01 PM »
If you eat the same amount of calories everyday your body will adjust by lowering your metabolism. That is why dieting often leads to gaining more weight then what you lost.  The cheat day prevents this from happening.

Are you sure metabolism works like that? A quick Google seems to say that is a myth.

I think dieting can often lead to weight gain due more to user error than body-trickery.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7610 on: April 06, 2015, 10:24:18 PM »
I don't mean to be snooty, but gee whiz!

The phrase 'gee whiz' automatically cancels out any snootiness in a post. See also: gee wilikers, aw shucks and goodness gracious.

Overheard at work - me giggling out loud to this. Very much needed.  Wish I had something more relevant to post but my coworkers tend to not say anything too ridiculous... Most annoying is the "awesome kohls sales" but those statements are generally balanced with talk of thrift store finds, public library love, diy suggestions (although this makes sense since we're mostly engineers)

Awesome Kohls Sales... Well, I'd say that is on the mustachian side of things. I've always considered Kohls to be the value department store (not including TJ Maxx, Ross, Value City, etc.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7611 on: April 07, 2015, 06:46:25 AM »
If you eat an odd number of calories per meal, it confounds your liver, which can only process an even numbers of calories.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7612 on: April 07, 2015, 06:54:39 AM »
If you eat an odd number of calories per meal, it confounds your liver, which can only process an even numbers of calories.

+1

Saw this while watching Dr. Oz on my 4K TV

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7613 on: April 07, 2015, 07:43:10 AM »
If you eat the same amount of calories everyday your body will adjust by lowering your metabolism. That is why dieting often leads to gaining more weight then what you lost.  The cheat day prevents this from happening.

Are you sure metabolism works like that? A quick Google seems to say that is a myth.

I think dieting can often lead to weight gain due more to user error than body-trickery.

Yea it's because people are terrible at judging calorie content and physical activity for >99% of it (severe metabolic problems excluded). People that are shitty dieters will chronically under-count calories (and people who are "hard gainers" will chronically undercount). So you have weird ideas of calorie cycling etc as a way to "confuse" your body. Here's what matters for weight loss-

BMR / RMR - interchangeable terms for this point. Basically the calories to stand there and not die.
NEAT - non-exercise activity calorie burning. Walking around, playing with a pencil while thinking -> fidgeting.
EAT - exercise based calorie burn.
TEF - The caloric burn of eating food. Something like 10% of food eaten is used to burn food eaten.

The NEAT part of it is surprisingly impactful. There can be an observable shift in the fidgety-ness of a dieter vs. naturally thin person vs naturally overweight person. Some people just move more. That gets dampened when you diet. It can double your BMR if you have a labored job. 

Some of BMR/RMR is static, like brain thinking and heart pumping. Some of it is variable, based on your weight and body composition. Strictly speaking, big people take more calories to exist as big people just walking down a hallway whether it's muscle or fat. So if you diet hard, you take less calories to stay alive and you burn less calories moving.  And you tend to be less fidgety. And your workouts are shit because people don't work out hard when they are dieting. Is this a "metabolism" shift? It's a calorie burn shift, so terms are different but the end result has the same tone to it.

The cheat day helps one of those things (the feeling like you are dieting, so your workouts aren't as crappy), and realistically hampers dieting more than it helps if you were just not doing a cheat day and pushed straight through willpower. As long as you are consistently and appreciably under your TDEE (add up everything above), you'll lose weight. Just know your TDEE also changes.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7614 on: April 07, 2015, 07:48:01 AM »
Thanks for the thorough explanation!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7615 on: April 07, 2015, 08:16:00 AM »
I'm SOOOO happy for the last few replies.

I've said on forums before that people don't really workout.  I've also described my "marathoner" friend who runs and runs but doesn't burn anything....she is so slow that I can walk next to her.  She is morbidly obese.    No, she doesn't get points for "trying" and I am not a total b for saying that.

I was jumped on by everyone and even cussed at.  You know what, it's true.  VERY few people REALLY workout.  They don't even know what hard work is in the gym.  I watch this day in and day out.  There is a reason fat people stay fat.  I go to the gym and bust my ass everyday.  I have the muscle and physique to show for it.  I'm a female and I squat more than everyone (except this one guy who was here TDY and squatted 450 for like 15 reps...it was awesome).   yesterday was leg day, I squatted only 225 pounds but guess what I did 15 sets of reps at declining numbers....so I did 15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1   That is 120 squats.  I never see people working like that.  Oh and then I jumped on the treadmill for 3 miles and then on the bike for another 20 mins. 

My husband and I are ripped.  There are no short cuts.  You want to be thin and in shape...you can't have cheat days and eat cake and bon bons.  There is no magic to this.  burn calories and eat good food. 


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7616 on: April 07, 2015, 08:27:52 AM »
There are no short cuts.  You want to be thin and in shape...you can't have cheat days and eat cake and bon bons.  There is no magic to this.  burn calories and eat good food.

I don't care to judge what other people decide, but I agree with this. When I was losing weight successfully I never had 'cheat days'. I understand the whole metabolism argument, but it wasn't for me*. Work your ass off and eat healthy is what worked.

Also, I think we need an exercise/weight loss thread.

* Though there was one month when I bumped my calories up from 1400 to 2500, after working my ass off every day for 2 months, but it was all quality high protein food and I continued to work my ass off. Didn't lose any weight that month, but I didn't gain any either and my strength sure increased.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7617 on: April 07, 2015, 08:27:53 AM »
Mustachians come in all shapes and sizes, same goes for antimustachians. Call me crazy but I would rather be a fat mustachian than a fit antimustachian.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7618 on: April 07, 2015, 08:32:22 AM »
Mustachians come in all shapes and sizes, same goes for antimustachians. Call me crazy but I would rather be a fat mustachian than a fit antimustachian.

Are the two mutually exclusive? I would rather be a fit mustacian, but I've always wanted more than the options presented.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7619 on: April 07, 2015, 08:36:21 AM »
Mustachians come in all shapes and sizes, same goes for antimustachians. Call me crazy but I would rather be a fat mustachian than a fit antimustachian.

Are the two mutually exclusive? I would rather be a fit mustacian, but I've always wanted more than the options presented.

This is the more likely scenario, no between riding the bikes to and from work, doing my own work around home, gardening, my side "gig" which is a 2 miles walk every day delivering papers, that I makes $500 a month for, and no TV I have gone from really obese to normal size, and in decent shape.  No Gym fees needed.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7620 on: April 07, 2015, 08:41:33 AM »
Mustachians come in all shapes and sizes, same goes for antimustachians. Call me crazy but I would rather be a fat mustachian than a fit antimustachian.

Are the two mutually exclusive? I would rather be a fit mustacian, but I've always wanted more than the options presented.

Absolutely agree. And I think the two go hand in hand. Taking care of your health is important for FIRE and any FIRE related activities I want to do. Given the original two options I can't answer the question.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7621 on: April 07, 2015, 09:33:09 AM »
For the past year or so, rain, snow or shine, I've made it a point to go on daily walks during my lunch break and then eat my packed lunch at my desk.  I work downtown and walk by the main library branch in our city.  Anyhow, on my mustachian journey, I realized that the library system carries a huge selection of DVD's as well as books basically allowing me to place holds on just about any movies that I want - they'll even transfer your requests from in-between branches to your requested branch.  Since I walk by the place pretty much 5 times a week, it has been super convenient to drop in and pick up my holds whenever they become available. This allows me to watch movies that I want to see basically for free - I mean I do pay taxes after all.

Anyways, sometimes I walk solo and some days a few colleagues will join me. Well, on this particular day 2 CW's joined me,  I had a DVD with me that I was returning and we got to talking about renting from the library.  It just so happens as we are walking right next to the library,  one of my CW's says something to the tune of "Oh, I could never use the library, it's too inconvenient.  I just want to order it on Amazon or Netflix without getting off my couch."  The irony was just too great with the library physically within steps of our current location. So, you'd rather pay extra to rent a movie or just order it online instead of walking a few more steps... And, they dropped me off at the library while they went to go buy lunch from somewhere else.

He's also the guy that in the past has admitted to needing to get a credit union loan to pay off credit card debt.  Granted our CU has generally better rates than CC's but to always talk about convenience as if it's the most important thing when you continue to run up debt...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7622 on: April 07, 2015, 09:33:38 AM »
Mustachians come in all shapes and sizes, same goes for antimustachians. Call me crazy but I would rather be a fat mustachian than a fit antimustachian.

Are the two mutually exclusive? I would rather be a fit mustacian, but I've always wanted more than the options presented.

Some people are going to be in more advantaged positions than others - in both fitness and mustachianism.

If you are born to a middle class family with a strong inclination towards math and science, you're likely going to have the earning potential necessary for massive savings. If you are born to a lower income family in a bad neighborhood and have a learning disability, it's going to be a lot harder to FIRE. Not impossible, just harder.

Same with weight management - some people are born with good genes and good environments that encourage healthy lifestyles. Others struggle more, as it's not something that comes naturally to them. It's not impossible, just harder.

My husband and I are ripped.  There are no short cuts.  You want to be thin and in shape...you can't have cheat days and eat cake and bon bons.  There is no magic to this.  burn calories and eat good food. 

It's true - you have to really work hard to get ripped, regardless of genetics (yet, even then, you can easily see differences between people, like generally between men and women - it typically takes more work for a woman to physically read "ripped").

I think what's really interesting is that these conversations revolve around outward appearance - not talking about being ripped generally, but fat vs. thin. That's where I get lost, where we stop talking about habits and only talk about weight. The thin people with horrible eating habits or lack of exercise are never part of the conversation about "health."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7623 on: April 07, 2015, 10:10:49 AM »
If you eat an odd number of calories per meal, it confounds your liver, which can only process an even numbers of calories.

+1

Don't +1 that!

If you +1 an odd number then it becomes an even number and you're sure to gain weight!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7624 on: April 07, 2015, 10:23:14 AM »
I had heard that if you eat an equal weight of dark chocolate and white chocolate they cancel each other out for a net of zero calories.  That HAS to be correct, right?  It is the only way to survive all the Easter chocolate.

If you eat an odd number of calories per meal, it confounds your liver, which can only process an even numbers of calories.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7625 on: April 07, 2015, 10:36:09 AM »
I had heard that if you eat an equal weight of dark chocolate and white chocolate they cancel each other out for a net of zero calories.  That HAS to be correct, right?  It is the only way to survive all the Easter chocolate.

This is true, but it's inherently dangerous to mix dark chocolate matter with white chocolate matter, as scientists posit that the calories are converted to pure energy, which may be released quite explosively.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7626 on: April 07, 2015, 10:36:49 AM »
Hahaha! I am currently reading from the company iPad. Executive within my department is an Ifreak and upgrades every time a new Idevice comes out. Two IPads ago, I received the old one. It is really nice, but it isn't nearly as good as my ancient laptop I have had since college. Spreadsheets being a big one. I think a lot of people would agree on this board.

iPads are terrible for creating content, in general. They're really designed more for consumption.

I'm heavily involved with the mobility program for my employer; there are a lot of specific use cases that tablets are great for, but they're just awful for general office productivity.

Not the microsoft surface! And I have/love a Surface 2 RT even though I only have the office suite and no other windows programs. True utility tablet. I didn't want a tablet shaped laptop...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7627 on: April 07, 2015, 10:37:51 AM »
You know, we should all just train like Michael Phelps (30 hours per week) and eat 12,000 calories a day. 
When you're early retired and all that you can make the gym your full time job and either get super swole or run marathons or train for local MMA fights like you're in the UFC.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7628 on: April 07, 2015, 10:48:16 AM »
If you eat an odd number of calories per meal, it confounds your liver, which can only process an even numbers of calories.

+1

Don't +1 that!

If you +1 an odd number then it becomes an even number and you're sure to gain weight!


+2


or to be most flexible if you were off on your calories to begin with:


if (calories%%2=1){"+1"}
else {"+2"}


note: "%%" is the modulo operator, i.e. the remainder after a division.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7629 on: April 07, 2015, 10:52:17 AM »
I didn't mean to imply that everyone should train hard or try and get ripped.  I just get a bit annoyed when I hear folks tell me how "lucky" I am to be in such good shape or how much time I must have to workout that they clearly do not. 

Just like how lucky I am to have a paid off house and cars.

We all know it isn't luck and it negates the actual work we put in.



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« Reply #7630 on: April 07, 2015, 11:01:42 AM »
I'm SOOOO happy for the last few replies.

I've said on forums before that people don't really workout.  I've also described my "marathoner" friend who runs and runs but doesn't burn anything....she is so slow that I can walk next to her.  She is morbidly obese.    No, she doesn't get points for "trying" and I am not a total b for saying that.

I was jumped on by everyone and even cussed at.  You know what, it's true.  VERY few people REALLY workout.  They don't even know what hard work is in the gym.  I watch this day in and day out.  There is a reason fat people stay fat.  I go to the gym and bust my ass everyday.  I have the muscle and physique to show for it.  I'm a female and I squat more than everyone (except this one guy who was here TDY and squatted 450 for like 15 reps...it was awesome).   yesterday was leg day, I squatted only 225 pounds but guess what I did 15 sets of reps at declining numbers....so I did 15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1   That is 120 squats.  I never see people working like that.  Oh and then I jumped on the treadmill for 3 miles and then on the bike for another 20 mins. 

My husband and I are ripped.  There are no short cuts.  You want to be thin and in shape...you can't have cheat days and eat cake and bon bons.  There is no magic to this.  burn calories and eat good food.
Well, if she is a marathoner, it really doesn't matter how fast she is going, she *is* working out.

But I've learned a lot in the last few years about "working out" and what works.  Chronic cardio (can you tell that I read Mark's Daily Apple?) really isn't the best way to lose weight long term.  But for years, that's what we've told people, so that's what they do.  And they wonder why they can't take off 10 pounds when they spend 45 minutes on the elliptical.

However, "chronic cardio" is good for your heart and your body.  I used to train for 1/2 marathons and I tell you - my legs were ripped and my heart rate/ BP was never so good.  My joints?  Not so much.  So swimming (gentle) and walking are what I do - they are good for my body (which is meant to MOVE) and mind.

I read a comment on a blog once that "exercise is the junk food of fitness".  Meaning, your body is supposed to MOVE so if your method of being fit is just a short workout here and there, it defeats the purpose.

The good thing about having 2 kids and working full time is that I just don't HAVE time.  So I turned to shorter workouts, which are apparently pretty effective.  I do at home weight training workouts, at home body-weight yoga-type workouts (PiYo), and at home interval training workouts.  (In addition to just walking and such whenever I can.)  If you do it right you are SWEATING after only 15 minutes (which is sometimes the only amount of time I have!)  Never underestimate the effectiveness of 10 minutes of burpees.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7631 on: April 07, 2015, 11:13:48 AM »
If you do it right you are SWEATING after only 15 minutes (which is sometimes the only amount of time I have!)  Never underestimate the effectiveness of 10 minutes of burpees.

Agreed! I am running a lot but that's because that is the only exercise I actually enjoy doing. I would like to lose weight, but that isn't the main motivation for exercise, for me it is relaxing and a great way to clear my mind of the outside world and remove stress. I do need to get back to doing HIIT type workouts for their fat burning properties. A workout I used to, and is great when staying at a hotel without a gym, is do to 10 burpees and then rest for 30 seconds, then 9, and work your way down to zero. It shouldn't take more than 10 minutes (if that) and if you are doing them even semi-correctly, you will be sweating!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7632 on: April 07, 2015, 12:10:43 PM »
If you do it right you are SWEATING after only 15 minutes (which is sometimes the only amount of time I have!)  Never underestimate the effectiveness of 10 minutes of burpees.

Agreed! I am running a lot but that's because that is the only exercise I actually enjoy doing. I would like to lose weight, but that isn't the main motivation for exercise, for me it is relaxing and a great way to clear my mind of the outside world and remove stress. I do need to get back to doing HIIT type workouts for their fat burning properties. A workout I used to, and is great when staying at a hotel without a gym, is do to 10 burpees and then rest for 30 seconds, then 9, and work your way down to zero. It shouldn't take more than 10 minutes (if that) and if you are doing them even semi-correctly, you will be sweating!

Burpees are probably the best body weight workout you can do.

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« Reply #7633 on: April 07, 2015, 03:19:55 PM »
Burpees are probably the best body weight workout you can do.

One legged, jumping to a one-arm pull-up, standing near a white board wearing neon clothing and knee socks in a box? I kid!

I agree burpees are legit, but damn do they hurt my joints. I actually prefer to hop into a pool wearing a 50 pound weight vest and tread water for 25 minutes. That's a rush!

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« Reply #7634 on: April 07, 2015, 03:29:48 PM »
I had heard that if you eat an equal weight of dark chocolate and white chocolate they cancel each other out for a net of zero calories.  That HAS to be correct, right?  It is the only way to survive all the Easter chocolate.

This is true, but it's inherently dangerous to mix dark chocolate matter with white chocolate matter, as scientists posit that the calories are converted to pure energy, which may be released quite explosively.

Far better to eat a pound of pasta followed by a pound of antipasto; they simply cancel each other out.

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« Reply #7635 on: April 07, 2015, 03:36:41 PM »
You guys kid, but when teaching diabetic education classes, I've encountered an astonishing number of people who think salt cancels out sugar.

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« Reply #7636 on: April 07, 2015, 03:42:02 PM »
You guys kid, but when teaching diabetic education classes, I've encountered an astonishing number of people who think salt cancels out sugar.

It kinda does from a culinary standpoint.  PF Chang's used to be like "is this your first time dining with us? [I never understood that question at all the chains] well this is soy sauce, which is like the salt.  This is chili oil, which is like the pepper.  This vinegar can help if the pepper is too spicy."

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« Reply #7637 on: April 07, 2015, 03:44:01 PM »
Okay. Tell that to your Hb A1C.

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« Reply #7638 on: April 07, 2015, 04:01:04 PM »
Okay. Tell that to your Hb A1C.
I hope you're better than the diabetes educator at my endo's office.  "I follow the low fat diet and my cholesterol is bad.  My dad eats anything he wants and his is good.  That's why you should follow this low fat diet".  Wait, what?

This was several years ago, but I still remember the screeeeeech! sound in my head when she said that.

My A1c bounces between 5.9 and 6.3 (and my cholesterol is fine).

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« Reply #7639 on: April 07, 2015, 04:15:41 PM »
Diabetic education isn't my primary job, but surely I can do better than that nonsense.

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« Reply #7640 on: April 07, 2015, 05:31:17 PM »
When you diet your Leptin decreases which slows down your metabolism. The cheat day ups your Leptin for 24 hours which helps with weight loss. I did not say binge eat on that day but eat more & maybe more higher calorie items then you normally would. For the people that say Google it-I suggest that you do the same so you know what you are talking about. I have now lost 30 lbs in 8 months doing this & often I go down the day after I eat more.  Exercise is also vital obviously.

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« Reply #7641 on: April 07, 2015, 07:32:57 PM »
If you do it right you are SWEATING after only 15 minutes (which is sometimes the only amount of time I have!)  Never underestimate the effectiveness of 10 minutes of burpees.

Agreed! I am running a lot but that's because that is the only exercise I actually enjoy doing. I would like to lose weight, but that isn't the main motivation for exercise, for me it is relaxing and a great way to clear my mind of the outside world and remove stress. I do need to get back to doing HIIT type workouts for their fat burning properties. A workout I used to, and is great when staying at a hotel without a gym, is do to 10 burpees and then rest for 30 seconds, then 9, and work your way down to zero. It shouldn't take more than 10 minutes (if that) and if you are doing them even semi-correctly, you will be sweating!

Burpees are probably the best body weight workout you can do.

And they can tear your shoulders up...just ask me.

Love(d) doing them though.  Once did a workout to AC/DC's thunderstruck.  Every time they say tbunderstuck, you drop and do a burpee.  Never listen to that song the same again

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« Reply #7642 on: April 07, 2015, 08:37:55 PM »
Sorry to interrupt... so on Monday, these two girls at work were going back and forth on who spent more the previous week. One went to to NY for work and apparently had a ton of shit shipped back. The other's hubby was upset his favorite team lost so she bought him a kegorator (with two taps).

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« Reply #7643 on: April 07, 2015, 09:16:47 PM »
The other's hubby was upset his favorite team lost so she bought him a kegorator (with two taps).

Nothing wrong with that! ;-)

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« Reply #7644 on: April 08, 2015, 07:27:09 AM »
The other's hubby was upset his favorite team lost so she bought him a kegorator (with two taps).

Nothing wrong with that! ;-)

I was thinking the same thing!

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« Reply #7645 on: April 08, 2015, 08:54:36 AM »
Sorry to interrupt...

LOL!!! This is way better than all those foamy posts!

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« Reply #7646 on: April 08, 2015, 09:25:20 AM »
RyanAtTanagra, I love your handle!

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« Reply #7647 on: April 08, 2015, 09:35:54 AM »
my boss bought a new car this past weekend... because her 2013 vehicle got keyed along one door.  She bought the same vehicle only a few years newer.  this is family who just got out of a bankruptcy and finished paying everything back.  She bought it because "i never buy myself anything nice".  OMG. 

She pays for 2 kids in college and one youngster in private school.  She said she will always have a car payment because "what can you do"?  OMG.  Seriously? 

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« Reply #7648 on: April 08, 2015, 09:41:22 AM »
my boss bought a new car this past weekend... because her 2013 vehicle got keyed along one door.  She bought the same vehicle only a few years newer.  this is family who just got out of a bankruptcy and finished paying everything back.  She bought it because "i never buy myself anything nice".  OMG. 

She pays for 2 kids in college and one youngster in private school.  She said she will always have a car payment because "what can you do"?  OMG.  Seriously?

Wait isn't a 2013 pretty new/nice? 2013?  Pfft. So last year.
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« Reply #7649 on: April 08, 2015, 09:44:18 AM »
my boss bought a new car this past weekend... because her 2013 vehicle got keyed along one door.  She bought the same vehicle only a few years newer.
Uh oh time for an oil change. Might as well buy a new car instead of paying the $50 to get it changed at the dealer... I guess some people never learn!