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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7450 on: March 19, 2015, 02:49:34 PM »
Not as long as there's a free sink in the kitchen . . .
EDIT - AND WINDOW SHADES

Not sure what kind of kitchen you run, but in my house explosive diarrhea in the kitchen sink would be classified as a catastrophe and I would like to avoid it.

I believe you just use the sprayer and run the garbage disposal every so often in that situation. Assuming you have both.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7451 on: March 19, 2015, 03:46:42 PM »
I feel like I live in a ridiculous lap of luxury having 2.5 bath in my house.  Sink/throne downstairs, full bath with tub at top of stairs, and full bath with shower as a master suite...

My wife prefers using 'our' shower/bathroom.... I look at her like she has three heads because we own the house, they are all OUR bathrooms!   I guess I just don't get it. 

Growing up, we had a single downstairs bathroom in our house.  If you didn't like it, there was always the tree line out back !
Sigh.  What I wouldn't do for a second toilet.  I grew up in a house with one bathroom, and most of the time 2 sisters and a brother in the house.  We never had an issue?

But now.  Seriously, I can never shower or pee in peace.  Like, ever.  That's just with a husband, 9 year old boy, 2.5 year old boy.  Why does everyone need the bathroom at the same time??

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7452 on: March 19, 2015, 03:49:53 PM »
I feel like I live in a ridiculous lap of luxury having 2.5 bath in my house.  Sink/throne downstairs, full bath with tub at top of stairs, and full bath with shower as a master suite...

My wife prefers using 'our' shower/bathroom.... I look at her like she has three heads because we own the house, they are all OUR bathrooms!   I guess I just don't get it. 

Growing up, we had a single downstairs bathroom in our house.  If you didn't like it, there was always the tree line out back !
Sigh.  What I wouldn't do for a second toilet.  I grew up in a house with one bathroom, and most of the time 2 sisters and a brother in the house.  We never had an issue?

But now.  Seriously, I can never shower or pee in peace.  Like, ever.  That's just with a husband, 9 year old boy, 2.5 year old boy.  Why does everyone need the bathroom at the same time??

Monkey see, monkey doo doo.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7453 on: March 19, 2015, 03:58:42 PM »
I feel like I live in a ridiculous lap of luxury having 2.5 bath in my house.  Sink/throne downstairs, full bath with tub at top of stairs, and full bath with shower as a master suite...

My wife prefers using 'our' shower/bathroom.... I look at her like she has three heads because we own the house, they are all OUR bathrooms!   I guess I just don't get it. 

Growing up, we had a single downstairs bathroom in our house.  If you didn't like it, there was always the tree line out back !
Sigh.  What I wouldn't do for a second toilet.  I grew up in a house with one bathroom, and most of the time 2 sisters and a brother in the house.  We never had an issue?

But now.  Seriously, I can never shower or pee in peace.  Like, ever.  That's just with a husband, 9 year old boy, 2.5 year old boy.  Why does everyone need the bathroom at the same time??

Monkey see, monkey doo doo.
Okay, that made me snicker out loud.  Good thing I'm alone (one officemate laid off, other on travel)

I used to make my son pee in the backyard (when he was 4, 5, 6...) that ONE patch of grass that was his favorite spot was SO GREEN.

of course with the drought, we have no lawn anymore.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7454 on: March 19, 2015, 07:04:18 PM »
Okay, that made me snicker out loud.  Good thing I'm alone (one officemate laid off, other on travel)

I used to make my son pee in the backyard (when he was 4, 5, 6...) that ONE patch of grass that was his favorite spot was SO GREEN.

of course with the drought, we have no lawn anymore.
Sounds like you need to reinstate your old policy.  For the environment, of course.  Think of the wasted water!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7455 on: March 20, 2015, 05:38:46 AM »
20k on three bathrooms is a pretty good price actually.  why he needs 3 i dont know but 7k bathroom remodel is on the affordable side of spendy people spending.

3 seems reasonable, maybe a tad excessive.  2 is my absolute minimum.  I will never own/rent another place that has less than 2 bathrooms.  But more than 2 seems like excess.  I will for sure get full use out of a second bathroom, but a third? Not so much.

I think 3 is excessive but yeah, one bathroom for two adults kinda sucks. That's what we have now but when we eventually buy a house my minimum would be 1.5. I think boyfriend's minimum would be two (like for when we have kids)... personally I could live with one tub/shower, even for a family of four, but damn it's nice having two.

I guess I'm not understanding how 2 ppl and one bathroom is so difficult. How often do you people poop at the same time? Or some serious bladder control issues?

What am I missing? Haha

The struggle is real here in the developed world. Haha

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7456 on: March 20, 2015, 05:55:42 AM »
20k on three bathrooms is a pretty good price actually.  why he needs 3 i dont know but 7k bathroom remodel is on the affordable side of spendy people spending.

3 seems reasonable, maybe a tad excessive.  2 is my absolute minimum.  I will never own/rent another place that has less than 2 bathrooms.  But more than 2 seems like excess.  I will for sure get full use out of a second bathroom, but a third? Not so much.

I think 3 is excessive but yeah, one bathroom for two adults kinda sucks. That's what we have now but when we eventually buy a house my minimum would be 1.5. I think boyfriend's minimum would be two (like for when we have kids)... personally I could live with one tub/shower, even for a family of four, but damn it's nice having two.

I guess I'm not understanding how 2 ppl and one bathroom is so difficult. How often do you people poop at the same time? Or some serious bladder control issues?

What am I missing? Haha

The struggle is real here in the developed world. Haha

yeah, a lot of family homes in the UK have only one bathroom and it's never seemed to be a horrendous problem.
we are two adults, frequent visitors and one bathroom. no problems at all.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7457 on: March 20, 2015, 07:45:11 AM »
20k on three bathrooms is a pretty good price actually.  why he needs 3 i dont know but 7k bathroom remodel is on the affordable side of spendy people spending.

3 seems reasonable, maybe a tad excessive.  2 is my absolute minimum.  I will never own/rent another place that has less than 2 bathrooms.  But more than 2 seems like excess.  I will for sure get full use out of a second bathroom, but a third? Not so much.

I think 3 is excessive but yeah, one bathroom for two adults kinda sucks. That's what we have now but when we eventually buy a house my minimum would be 1.5. I think boyfriend's minimum would be two (like for when we have kids)... personally I could live with one tub/shower, even for a family of four, but damn it's nice having two.

I guess I'm not understanding how 2 ppl and one bathroom is so difficult. How often do you people poop at the same time? Or some serious bladder control issues?

What am I missing? Haha

The struggle is real here in the developed world. Haha

I have stomach issues and poop a lot.  Even with only 2 people it happens at least once a week where we both need access to the bathroom.  Growing up in a 5 person house was terrible.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7458 on: March 20, 2015, 08:16:33 AM »
I have stomach issues and poop a lot.  Even with only 2 people it happens at least once a week where we both need access to the bathroom.  Growing up in a 5 person house was terrible.

eww! Didn't want to know that. You should be a little more frugal with those nachos!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7459 on: March 20, 2015, 09:17:19 AM »
They are succeeding with the confusion. I only see the .66%, and the statement doesn't list transactions except for the total I added for the quarter. We have about 120 employees, so that might make some difference. What I really would like to be able to clearly figure out, is at what point it wouldn't be worth maxing out because the fees are too high. But that requires more math than I can figure out.

Lucky for us, jlcollinsnh is great at math: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2013/06/28/stocks-part-viii-b-should-you-avoid-your-companys-401k/

That post includes a rebuttal from the Mad FIendist.

I have read that post at least 15 times. And the rebuttal a few times too. Trouble is, I just don't know. Yes, I am in the 15% tax bracket (or was this past year), but that is partially because of what I am already contributing to the 401K, so if I contributed less, I wouldn't be. I currently contribute 20%, but still don't max it. I will probably be in this job for quite a while (no idea how long really, but it's basically stress free and the pay me ok, so not looking to switch currently), and I do get a 3% match up to 6%. Also on my 3 month statement, it says that I was charged $25 for administrative expenses. I am not sure, but I assume this is over and above the individual fund fees? Everyone is making it sound like it's really easy and I guess for you it might be, but this is way over my head. With Zaga's math it sounds like I would have to be in the job for 22 years for it not to be worth it...is that right? Thanks everyone for the comments. I guess I'm a dummy, because I'm just not figuring it out. Sorry to derail the thread and for my thickheadedness.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7460 on: March 20, 2015, 10:01:37 AM »
They are succeeding with the confusion. I only see the .66%, and the statement doesn't list transactions except for the total I added for the quarter. We have about 120 employees, so that might make some difference. What I really would like to be able to clearly figure out, is at what point it wouldn't be worth maxing out because the fees are too high. But that requires more math than I can figure out.

Lucky for us, jlcollinsnh is great at math: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2013/06/28/stocks-part-viii-b-should-you-avoid-your-companys-401k/

That post includes a rebuttal from the Mad FIendist.

I have read that post at least 15 times. And the rebuttal a few times too. Trouble is, I just don't know. Yes, I am in the 15% tax bracket (or was this past year), but that is partially because of what I am already contributing to the 401K, so if I contributed less, I wouldn't be. I currently contribute 20%, but still don't max it. I will probably be in this job for quite a while (no idea how long really, but it's basically stress free and the pay me ok, so not looking to switch currently), and I do get a 3% match up to 6%. Also on my 3 month statement, it says that I was charged $25 for administrative expenses. I am not sure, but I assume this is over and above the individual fund fees? Everyone is making it sound like it's really easy and I guess for you it might be, but this is way over my head. With Zaga's math it sounds like I would have to be in the job for 22 years for it not to be worth it...is that right? Thanks everyone for the comments. I guess I'm a dummy, because I'm just not figuring it out. Sorry to derail the thread and for my thickheadedness.
Like I said, my math is far from perfect.

You've over-complicating matters.  The important thing is that you save.  You can't predict the future.  Sure, you may be in that job for 20+ years, or they may have a restructuring and lay you off tomorrow.  Is this decision worth you getting ulcers over a few $ one way or another?  I would think not.

Now, I know that MMM is all about optimizing, but not all people can think that way all the time.  Do your best, make a decision, move on.

I know that some years we have contributed to a Roth when we "should" have contributed more to a 401-K instead.  You know what?  Not the end of the world.  We saved, we are happy with that.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7461 on: March 20, 2015, 11:36:53 AM »
20k on three bathrooms is a pretty good price actually.  why he needs 3 i dont know but 7k bathroom remodel is on the affordable side of spendy people spending.

3 seems reasonable, maybe a tad excessive.  2 is my absolute minimum.  I will never own/rent another place that has less than 2 bathrooms.  But more than 2 seems like excess.  I will for sure get full use out of a second bathroom, but a third? Not so much.

I think 3 is excessive but yeah, one bathroom for two adults kinda sucks. That's what we have now but when we eventually buy a house my minimum would be 1.5. I think boyfriend's minimum would be two (like for when we have kids)... personally I could live with one tub/shower, even for a family of four, but damn it's nice having two.

I guess I'm not understanding how 2 ppl and one bathroom is so difficult. How often do you people poop at the same time? Or some serious bladder control issues?

What am I missing? Haha

The struggle is real here in the developed world. Haha
the only place my husband gets peace is in the bathroom.  He takes forever sometimes.  Inevitably, the kiddo needs to go at the same time.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7462 on: March 20, 2015, 12:25:37 PM »
They are succeeding with the confusion. I only see the .66%, and the statement doesn't list transactions except for the total I added for the quarter. We have about 120 employees, so that might make some difference. What I really would like to be able to clearly figure out, is at what point it wouldn't be worth maxing out because the fees are too high. But that requires more math than I can figure out.

Lucky for us, jlcollinsnh is great at math: http://jlcollinsnh.com/2013/06/28/stocks-part-viii-b-should-you-avoid-your-companys-401k/

That post includes a rebuttal from the Mad FIendist.

I have read that post at least 15 times. And the rebuttal a few times too. Trouble is, I just don't know. Yes, I am in the 15% tax bracket (or was this past year), but that is partially because of what I am already contributing to the 401K, so if I contributed less, I wouldn't be. I currently contribute 20%, but still don't max it. I will probably be in this job for quite a while (no idea how long really, but it's basically stress free and the pay me ok, so not looking to switch currently), and I do get a 3% match up to 6%. Also on my 3 month statement, it says that I was charged $25 for administrative expenses. I am not sure, but I assume this is over and above the individual fund fees? Everyone is making it sound like it's really easy and I guess for you it might be, but this is way over my head. With Zaga's math it sounds like I would have to be in the job for 22 years for it not to be worth it...is that right? Thanks everyone for the comments. I guess I'm a dummy, because I'm just not figuring it out. Sorry to derail the thread and for my thickheadedness.
Like I said, my math is far from perfect.

You've over-complicating matters.  The important thing is that you save.  You can't predict the future.  Sure, you may be in that job for 20+ years, or they may have a restructuring and lay you off tomorrow.  Is this decision worth you getting ulcers over a few $ one way or another?  I would think not.

Now, I know that MMM is all about optimizing, but not all people can think that way all the time.  Do your best, make a decision, move on.

I know that some years we have contributed to a Roth when we "should" have contributed more to a 401-K instead.  You know what?  Not the end of the world.  We saved, we are happy with that.

Excellent point, thank you. I can definitely get over anxious about the details, and forget the bigger picture.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7463 on: March 20, 2015, 02:02:54 PM »
I have a coworker who drives a 14 year old truck, that he keeps in pristine condition. I really thought this guy "got it" until today when he announces he is looking at new (brand new!) trucks because he wants a blue tooth stereo option. I told him he can buy a new stereo for ~$100 and he'd be all set. He said he's OCD about a new stereo not fitting properly and looking like the original factory install, so he will be buying a Tacoma when the new design comes out. I helpfully informed him he was crazy.  Fortunately, he took it well.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7464 on: March 20, 2015, 02:19:01 PM »
Bluetooth audio modules are about $3 on ebay, cassette adapters about as much.

Eventually I'm going to open the thing up, mcguyver the bluetooth module inside the car, and tie it in directly bypassing the radio / head unit. But for now... it's a $6 setup and fairly rock solid. You might want to tell him that.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7465 on: March 20, 2015, 02:26:15 PM »
I have a coworker who drives a 14 year old truck, that he keeps in pristine condition. I really thought this guy "got it" until today when he announces he is looking at new (brand new!) trucks because he wants a blue tooth stereo option. I told him he can buy a new stereo for ~$100 and he'd be all set. He said he's OCD about a new stereo not fitting properly and looking like the original factory install, so he will be buying a Tacoma when the new design comes out. I helpfully informed him he was crazy.  Fortunately, he took it well.

It is always disappointing when this happens. Maybe there is another reason that he hasn't told you about...

it's a $6 setup and fairly rock solid. You might want to tell him that.
+1

Coworker told me at a group dinner that he just paid $5k for ACL surgery on his dog. Everyone in the group proceeded to discuss some new pet health insurance that just came out. Some people said that they were planning to get it.

I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000? But what do I know? I think animals belong in the wild or producing something on a farm. Animals are an expensive hobby.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7466 on: March 20, 2015, 02:28:10 PM »

Coworker told me at a group dinner that he just paid $5k for ACL surgery on his dog. Everyone in the group proceeded to discuss some new pet health insurance that just came out. Some people said that they were planning to get it.

I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000? But what do I know? I think animals belong in the wild or producing something on a farm. Animals are an expensive hobby.

Yeah I don't know what I would do. I don't plan on having any kids so maybe someday I will get a dog and if that's the case I can see myself wanting to take care of him as best as I can, which may include spending this much on surgery. But this would be a more emotional decision and not a rational one.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7467 on: March 20, 2015, 02:31:46 PM »
I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000? But what do I know? I think animals belong in the wild or producing something on a farm. Animals are an expensive hobby.

I have a friend who just spent that on his cat that disappeared and showed back up a week later dragging a shattered leg and had gashes on his back and stomache.  Definitely not a frugal choice but his cat is awesome and he loves him to death and it's one of those things where if he didn't do it he'd had to have put him down and would have regretted it the rest of his life.  Sometimes mustachianism is about being able to do ridiculous things you wouldn't have otherwise had the option to do.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7468 on: March 20, 2015, 02:36:57 PM »
I agree luxurious, but sometimes necessary.  I could not imagine having to share a bathroom with my teen.  I hate to even walk into her bathroom, I usually just shudder and shut the door.
Oh, I wouldn't go any lower. When I say ridiculous, I don't mean I'm considering further reductions, only that it's still wondrous and I'm reminding myself to be super-stoked about it.
When we have people over, it's usually LOTS of them, so even with 2 potties, the yard is often in play.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7469 on: March 20, 2015, 02:40:29 PM »
I helpfully informed him he was crazy.  Fortunately, he took it well.

Did you forget "fucking"? Because that is legitimately FUCKING crazy. Not just crazy. Holy fucking shit.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7470 on: March 22, 2015, 09:32:13 PM »
I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000? But what do I know? I think animals belong in the wild or producing something on a farm. Animals are an expensive hobby.

I have a friend who just spent that on his cat that disappeared and showed back up a week later dragging a shattered leg and had gashes on his back and stomache.  Definitely not a frugal choice but his cat is awesome and he loves him to death and it's one of those things where if he didn't do it he'd had to have put him down and would have regretted it the rest of his life.  Sometimes mustachianism is about being able to do ridiculous things you wouldn't have otherwise had the option to do.

I would consider it for my dog if she would be 100%ok with full life expectancy. She's old and I've had her since she was a puppy. I don't think I'd do something like doggie chemo where she'd be unlikely to live a long, full life afterwards but a bone? Probably. I've spent ~1k on her in the past for procedures she needed.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7471 on: March 23, 2015, 06:41:44 AM »

I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000?

If all it took was money for my dog to continue living a good life, I would definitely pay it.
When it comes to paying to extend what is no longer a happy life, then I would put the pet down.

But I would NEVER put down or get rid of a dog for something as fixable as an ACL.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7472 on: March 23, 2015, 07:57:14 AM »
I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000? But what do I know? I think animals belong in the wild or producing something on a farm. Animals are an expensive hobby.

I have a friend who just spent that on his cat that disappeared and showed back up a week later dragging a shattered leg and had gashes on his back and stomache.  Definitely not a frugal choice but his cat is awesome and he loves him to death and it's one of those things where if he didn't do it he'd had to have put him down and would have regretted it the rest of his life.  Sometimes mustachianism is about being able to do ridiculous things you wouldn't have otherwise had the option to do.

I would consider it for my dog if she would be 100%ok with full life expectancy. She's old and I've had her since she was a puppy. I don't think I'd do something like doggie chemo where she'd be unlikely to live a long, full life afterwards but a bone? Probably. I've spent ~1k on her in the past for procedures she needed.

+1  I had a dog that had a genetic condition(no family knowledge unfortunately), where its back vertrabrae swelled and caused it to go paralyzed in the back legs.  The surgery to repair was $5500, but the dog was 2 years old, and the vet said that we would be having to do the surgery every two years or so for its life.  So we opted to put her down.

Hardest decision that we have ever made for a pet, but finically, and the fact that the dog would have to endure several surgeries in its life, the best choice.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7473 on: March 23, 2015, 09:03:35 AM »

I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000?

If all it took was money for my dog to continue living a good life, I would definitely pay it.
When it comes to paying to extend what is no longer a happy life, then I would put the pet down.

But I would NEVER put down or get rid of a dog for something as fixable as an ACL.
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you there. My black lab suffered a complete ACL tear just after turning 5. He was otherwise healthy and I had raised him nearly from 6 weeks to be my only companion through some of the hardest times of my life. I agreed to a TPLO, estimated at $4k but fortunately not much over $3k in the end.
Four years later, he's turning 9, chasing the fuck out of squirrels, and generally acting like a puppy. He ran/walked at least 7 miles with me on Saturday without so much as a limp afterward. Would I do it again? Yep. I'd get a payday loan for that shit. There's money, and then there's love. <3 puppies.
When you consider that a lifetime of proper care and feeding can easily run $10-20k, something like this is easy to justify, as long as financial ruin doesn't result. The real problem is people not accounting for those lifetime costs and then giving up on their pets when life surprises them.

All that said... if he gets cancer when he's 10 or 12, the calculus is a little different and we may just make him comfortable and happy till the end. It's all about quality of life, and if it can't be helped, we'll just focus on minimal suffering.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7474 on: March 23, 2015, 11:03:23 AM »
I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000? But what do I know? I think animals belong in the wild or producing something on a farm. Animals are an expensive hobby.

I have a friend who just spent that on his cat that disappeared and showed back up a week later dragging a shattered leg and had gashes on his back and stomache.  Definitely not a frugal choice but his cat is awesome and he loves him to death and it's one of those things where if he didn't do it he'd had to have put him down and would have regretted it the rest of his life.  Sometimes mustachianism is about being able to do ridiculous things you wouldn't have otherwise had the option to do.

 < --- asshole Cat did something similar. I was glad to have the money to pay cash for his surgeries, xrays, and paid to have him sedated for bandage changes each time.
He's my best friend and I was devastated that he was in pain.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7475 on: March 23, 2015, 11:51:37 AM »

I agree that it is important to take care of your animals, but $5,000?

If all it took was money for my dog to continue living a good life, I would definitely pay it.
When it comes to paying to extend what is no longer a happy life, then I would put the pet down.

But I would NEVER put down or get rid of a dog for something as fixable as an ACL.
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you there. My black lab suffered a complete ACL tear just after turning 5. He was otherwise healthy and I had raised him nearly from 6 weeks to be my only companion through some of the hardest times of my life. I agreed to a TPLO, estimated at $4k but fortunately not much over $3k in the end.
Four years later, he's turning 9, chasing the fuck out of squirrels, and generally acting like a puppy. He ran/walked at least 7 miles with me on Saturday without so much as a limp afterward. Would I do it again? Yep. I'd get a payday loan for that shit. There's money, and then there's love. <3 puppies.
When you consider that a lifetime of proper care and feeding can easily run $10-20k, something like this is easy to justify, as long as financial ruin doesn't result. The real problem is people not accounting for those lifetime costs and then giving up on their pets when life surprises them.

All that said... if he gets cancer when he's 10 or 12, the calculus is a little different and we may just make him comfortable and happy till the end. It's all about quality of life, and if it can't be helped, we'll just focus on minimal suffering.

My dog had tremendous pain opening her mouth, and nearly lost sight in one eye pretty much out of the blue this year.  I was pretty sure that we were going to lose her.  Between painkillers, antibiotics, tests, and some eventual surgery it ended up costing us about three grand.  She's good as new a few months later now.

Dogs are typically so happy.  A sick dog shivering in pain is the saddest thing in the world.  Money to make things better for them is well spent.

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« Reply #7476 on: March 23, 2015, 01:06:25 PM »
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Co-worker I have mentioned in posts before had a new gem yesterday. Guy went from flipping burgers getting minimum wage to making ~$45,000 (no rent, lives with his grandmother) and has 2 credit cards maxed out. He tried to buy a motorcycle the other weekend but he was denied due to his credit score which he said was around 560.

Anyways I get a call in the office from Kay Jewelers, asking for employment verification for said individual. He wanted.... no, his girlfriend wanted him to buy an engagement ring for her. He didn't have the money, his cards were maxed out, so he took out and was approved for a loan from the store for $4,000 at 24% interest.

He is making more money than he ever has in his life, he is not paying rent, and his net worth just keeps going further in the red. Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.

He proposed about a week and a half ago. Found out three days ago she is still fucking some other dude. True love <3

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7477 on: March 23, 2015, 01:56:17 PM »
Yeah but did the other dude get her the bigger ring?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7478 on: March 23, 2015, 03:56:23 PM »
No, but he put something in her ring!

But in seriousness, hope the guy can return the thing and get his $4k back. Suuuuuuuuuuuucks.

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« Reply #7479 on: March 23, 2015, 04:46:31 PM »
No, but he put something in her ring!

But in seriousness, hope the guy can return the thing and get his $4k back. Suuuuuuuuuuuucks.

That made me laugh my ass off, thank you. And updates to follow as they come in.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7480 on: March 23, 2015, 06:56:13 PM »


He proposed about a week and a half ago. Found out three days ago she is still fucking some other dude. True love <3

Reminds me of the scene from "Four Weddings & A Funeral"

How's your gorgeous girlfriend?

- She's no longer my girlfriend.               

Ah, dear. I wouldn't get too gloomy about it.  Rumour has it she never stopped bonking Toby de Lisle in case you didn't work out.
                 
 - She is now my wife.
               
Excellent. Congratulations.  Excuse me.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7481 on: March 24, 2015, 12:10:11 PM »
UPDATE FROM THIS POST:

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Co-worker I have mentioned in posts before had a new gem yesterday. Guy went from flipping burgers getting minimum wage to making ~$45,000 (no rent, lives with his grandmother) and has 2 credit cards maxed out. He tried to buy a motorcycle the other weekend but he was denied due to his credit score which he said was around 560.

Anyways I get a call in the office from Kay Jewelers, asking for employment verification for said individual. He wanted.... no, his girlfriend wanted him to buy an engagement ring for her. He didn't have the money, his cards were maxed out, so he took out and was approved for a loan from the store for $4,000 at 24% interest.

He is making more money than he ever has in his life, he is not paying rent, and his net worth just keeps going further in the red. Also he cheated on the girlfriend he got the ring for a few months ago... needless to say I am pretty sure this is headed for disaster.

He proposed about a week and a half ago. Found out three days ago she is still fucking some other dude. True love <3
In This Thread: Assholes Who Fucking Deserve Each Other.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7482 on: March 24, 2015, 08:56:10 PM »
Woman at work gets her hair cut at the mall salon and it costs $27 just for the cut, probably a wash too.  She shocked me when she said it's "like $50 bucks every time because I have to tip her $20."

This blew me away--over 70% tip!! Wow.  I tried to share my shock with both my sister and another co-worker and they were both unimpressed and essentially said that they also tip their hairdressers well.... 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7483 on: March 24, 2015, 09:03:30 PM »
I would probably tip 50%. A good hairdresser can be a thing of beauty if you can find and afford it, but there's also a reason my partner and I cut each orher's hair.

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« Reply #7484 on: March 24, 2015, 10:07:47 PM »
I would probably tip 50%. A good hairdresser can be a thing of beauty if you can find and afford it, but there's also a reason my partner and I cut each orher's hair.

Am I a terrible person for not routinely tipping my hairdresser?  She is self-employed with her own salon, so I figure she should set her rates to whatever she thinks her work is worth.  Sometimes I tip if I'm a pain in the ass to schedule, or she changes the style or something, but regular cut, no.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7485 on: March 24, 2015, 10:36:28 PM »
My boys need to read this. They never tip! Cheapskate kindergarteners! I'm going to start buzzing smiley faces in the back of their heads.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7486 on: March 25, 2015, 06:26:00 AM »
I would probably tip 50%. A good hairdresser can be a thing of beauty if you can find and afford it, but there's also a reason my partner and I cut each orher's hair.

Am I a terrible person for not routinely tipping my hairdresser?  She is self-employed with her own salon, so I figure she should set her rates to whatever she thinks her work is worth.  Sometimes I tip if I'm a pain in the ass to schedule, or she changes the style or something, but regular cut, no.

Rule of thumb is that if the stylist if the owner then tipping is not necessary.  If they are renting a station then tipping is customary.  The percentage depends on the geographical, type of cut, how long it took, etc.  I only get cuts a couple times a year (if even that), so I tend to tip about 25%.  I also do not color or otherwise treat my hair.  my friend says that if you are getting more done, because it is more labor intensive then the tipping percentage goes up but should not exceed 50%.  50% would only for something absolutely amazing and unique (maybe a bridal updo). 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7487 on: March 25, 2015, 06:42:14 AM »
I have to jump in just to comment on the hair salon tipping.  I used to be a total cheapskate with my stylist tip amounts.  I found an amazing stylist and the first time she did my hair, I tipped her like 50%.  It is just a cut and style.  The next time I went their she gave me 50% off my cut, so I tipped her big again.  She has since NEVER charged me full price for a cut and style.  It turned out actually saving me money by tipping largely.

1st visit - $30 cut and $15 tip = $45
2nd visit - $15 cut and $15 tip = $30
3rd and all visitis since - $10 cut and $15 tip = $25

she is making the same and I'm paying less.  WIN/WIN

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7488 on: March 25, 2015, 07:05:55 AM »
I have to jump in just to comment on the hair salon tipping.  I used to be a total cheapskate with my stylist tip amounts.  I found an amazing stylist and the first time she did my hair, I tipped her like 50%.  It is just a cut and style.  The next time I went their she gave me 50% off my cut, so I tipped her big again.  She has since NEVER charged me full price for a cut and style.  It turned out actually saving me money by tipping largely.

1st visit - $30 cut and $15 tip = $45
2nd visit - $15 cut and $15 tip = $30
3rd and all visitis since - $10 cut and $15 tip = $25

she is making the same and I'm paying less.  WIN/WIN

Looks like she is making less

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7489 on: March 25, 2015, 07:12:36 AM »
I have to jump in just to comment on the hair salon tipping.  I used to be a total cheapskate with my stylist tip amounts.  I found an amazing stylist and the first time she did my hair, I tipped her like 50%.  It is just a cut and style.  The next time I went their she gave me 50% off my cut, so I tipped her big again.  She has since NEVER charged me full price for a cut and style.  It turned out actually saving me money by tipping largely.

1st visit - $30 cut and $15 tip = $45
2nd visit - $15 cut and $15 tip = $30
3rd and all visitis since - $10 cut and $15 tip = $25

she is making the same and I'm paying less.  WIN/WIN

Looks like she is making less

Useful bit of info that I inadvertently left off....she's paid hourly and gets to keep tips.  The salon keeps the $$ from the cuts.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7490 on: March 25, 2015, 08:39:14 AM »
I prefer to trade sexual favours rather than cash for a hair cut.  This works best if your wife is cutting your hair though. . .




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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7491 on: March 25, 2015, 09:06:31 AM »
and that is why steve is perma banned from borics.

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« Reply #7492 on: March 25, 2015, 09:09:31 AM »
People at work were talking about budgeting. Some people had sound advice, some people felt like they could barely make ends meet (on 80k in a semi-rural area???!!!).

I said "we just use the 'don't buy shit we don't need' method".

One of my coworkers said "Man, if I could only get my husband to agree with that, we would probably be really well off."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7493 on: March 25, 2015, 09:11:45 AM »
All this haircut talk reminds me of an snl I watched on netflix recently.  Seth meyers was doing the weekend update...



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Forbes released their annual list of the 400 richest Americans, with Bill Gates at the top of the list with $59 billion. Man, it really is amazing how much money you can save when you cut your own hair!

My wife cuts my hair.  She didn't want to, until I made a spread sheet and showed her how much money we could save if she just buzzed my hair every couple months, and then she was convinced.   We had a good laugh at that joke.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7494 on: March 25, 2015, 11:00:11 AM »
Another gem from the woman who brought you "I need a three bedroom house for me and my dog".

Speaking to a woman who just got back from maternity leave: "You and [husband] aren't trying to be all domesticated and trying to make your own baby food, are you?"

Response: "Hell no! Do you know who you're talking to?!" [i.e. woman who doesn't eat anything that isn't packaged]

Followed by a discussion of how packaged baby food is better than homemade because babies can digest it more easily.

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« Reply #7495 on: March 25, 2015, 11:20:21 AM »
Another gem from the woman who brought you "I need a three bedroom house for me and my dog".

Speaking to a woman who just got back from maternity leave: "You and [husband] aren't trying to be all domesticated and trying to make your own baby food, are you?"

Response: "Hell no! Do you know who you're talking to?!" [i.e. woman who doesn't eat anything that isn't packaged]

Followed by a discussion of how packaged baby food is better than homemade because babies can digest it more easily.
Oh, ye gads.
Heavens, no.
Anything but "domesticated".

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« Reply #7496 on: March 25, 2015, 12:12:51 PM »
I have to jump in just to comment on the hair salon tipping.  I used to be a total cheapskate with my stylist tip amounts.  I found an amazing stylist and the first time she did my hair, I tipped her like 50%.  It is just a cut and style.  The next time I went their she gave me 50% off my cut, so I tipped her big again.  She has since NEVER charged me full price for a cut and style.  It turned out actually saving me money by tipping largely.

1st visit - $30 cut and $15 tip = $45
2nd visit - $15 cut and $15 tip = $30
3rd and all visitis since - $10 cut and $15 tip = $25

she is making the same and I'm paying less.  WIN/WIN

Looks like she is making less

Useful bit of info that I inadvertently left off....she's paid hourly and gets to keep tips.  The salon keeps the $$ from the cuts.
Now it just sounds like tax evasion. :p

Why would this imply tax evasion?  I write the tip on my credit card slip and just like every other tipping job, she would have to claim her tips as income. 


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« Reply #7497 on: March 25, 2015, 12:51:49 PM »
I have to jump in just to comment on the hair salon tipping.  I used to be a total cheapskate with my stylist tip amounts.  I found an amazing stylist and the first time she did my hair, I tipped her like 50%.  It is just a cut and style.  The next time I went their she gave me 50% off my cut, so I tipped her big again.  She has since NEVER charged me full price for a cut and style.  It turned out actually saving me money by tipping largely.

1st visit - $30 cut and $15 tip = $45
2nd visit - $15 cut and $15 tip = $30
3rd and all visitis since - $10 cut and $15 tip = $25

she is making the same and I'm paying less.  WIN/WIN

Looks like she is making less

Useful bit of info that I inadvertently left off....she's paid hourly and gets to keep tips.  The salon keeps the $$ from the cuts.
Now it just sounds like tax evasion. :p

Why would this imply tax evasion?  I write the tip on my credit card slip and just like every other tipping job, she would have to claim her tips as income.

If anything, it's skimming.  Presumably, she owes $30 to the salon for every cut (you said the salon keeps the money from the cuts).  So why would they allow her to arbitrarily lower the price to $15?  Unless they have a really lax arrangement, I'd say she's screwing the salon and pocketing the difference.

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« Reply #7498 on: March 25, 2015, 01:05:04 PM »
Another gem from the woman who brought you "I need a three bedroom house for me and my dog".

Speaking to a woman who just got back from maternity leave: "You and [husband] aren't trying to be all domesticated and trying to make your own baby food, are you?"

Response: "Hell no! Do you know who you're talking to?!" [i.e. woman who doesn't eat anything that isn't packaged]

Followed by a discussion of how packaged baby food is better than homemade because babies can digest it more easily.
Oh, ye gads.
Heavens, no.
Anything but "domesticated".

How did the human species ever get by before Gerber?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #7499 on: March 25, 2015, 01:16:15 PM »
How did the human species ever get by before Gerber?

We've come so far since our species' domestication.