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« Reply #6600 on: January 28, 2015, 02:45:16 PM »
Not overheard, but said. Supervisor forgot he signed off on my unmustachian vacation a couple months ago even though we are in a deep hole workload wise. I am only leaving for a week to sit on a beach and do nothing but hang out with my nephews. I told on CW I wasn't bringing a checked bag and everyone proceeded to lose there sh*t (cube farm so everyone could hear the conversation). I was told I was being wasteful because I get a free checked bag anyway and not using it is a waste. I asked if I was supposed to check an empty bag for the fun of it and my secretary just about exploded from disbelief.

How can you go a week without a bag full of stuff?

Oh, god.  DH and I get this all the time.  We both hate checking bags, so we always just do carry-on.  We went to Europe for three weeks last summer and for some reason luggage came up as a subject with some friends right before we left.  I thought their eyes were going to pop out of their skulls when we said we were both just taking a carry-on apiece.

God forbid you use a laundromat, right?

Seriously.  Or, in our case, the handy mini-washing machines in the furnished apartments we rented!
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« Reply #6601 on: January 28, 2015, 03:05:55 PM »

I never check bags, but I also like the no carry on style (with the caveat that you still don't check a bag).

One of my goals is to vacation with no carry on and no luggage.

http://www.rtwblog.com/about-the-challenge/

http://regevelya.com/no-bags-travel/

The second link is hilarious in an endearing way. TL;DR: Israeli guy goes to Romania with just a tank top, shorts, and flipflops. Discovers it's cold in Romania. Buys proper shoes, jeans, and a jacket.

Hey, I could travel with no bags too if I'm allowed to ditch what I'm wearing and buy all new stuff at the destination. ;)

He could have just started with that, for one, but also, of course you're allowed to buy stuff at your destination.  Not packing toiletries and getting them when you arrive (and ditching them when you leave) is a great travel light strategy.  :)
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« Reply #6602 on: January 28, 2015, 03:09:31 PM »
OT: I love getting the "where's the rest of your luggage" question. I'm not so much a fan of the gendered assumptions that typically accompany it.

On topic: A coworker friend of mine is basically killing time at work right now waiting for something new. So she brought in her taxes and did them here. In discussing this with her, she explained that neither she nor her husband have adjusted their withholding allowances ever, for the specific goal of getting a ton of money back every year. This year she decided to put in 2, for her two kids. I know from just re-doing my W-4 that they could EACH do 9.

And then, a few hours later, she tells me that her husband just got a new truck last year, but the new model has a bunch of bells and whistles he wants, so he told the guy at the dealership that if he could keep his payment the same, he'd trade in. But she's not happy about this because if he gets a new truck then it'll be an extra year before she can get a new SUV because they alternate car loans.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6603 on: January 28, 2015, 03:20:34 PM »
Maybe, depending on your version of Mustachian.

I think traveling without a bag has such a freeing feeling and may enable other experiences that you might not otherwise have (or a mindset for those) that it's worth trying.

To each his own.  :)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6604 on: January 28, 2015, 03:54:31 PM »
Maybe, depending on your version of Mustachian.

I think traveling without a bag has such a freeing feeling and may enable other experiences that you might not otherwise have (or a mindset for those) that it's worth trying.

To each his own.  :)

Those links posted started me down a hole...of the rabbit kind (so thanks for that, I really didn't have work to do today :P). I'm super minimalist with clothes (as in, my GF just recently insisted I had to have more than 3 pairs of pants, and no, none could have holes...so she bought me four pairs), but our trip to Cancun last year ran into the 50lb/bag weight limit. Scuba gear is heavy!! I need to figure that out since we are going to be travelling 6 months out of the year once we catch FIRE. Still reading those links...and my boss is pestering me on IM to 'get work done'. Pfft.
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« Reply #6605 on: January 28, 2015, 04:09:35 PM »
I'm a chronic light packer (when people pick me up at the airport they ask, "where's the rest of your luggage?") and I truly don't understand what people are bringing with them that they need a huge 26" wheeled suitcase plus a wheeled carry-on plus a personal item. I went on a two-week overseas vacation with just an 18" duffel bag (no wheels) and a purse. And that included bringing bulky running shoes and a hair dryer. I don't mean this to come off as a humblebrag, I just am completely mystified about what people are packing that they need so many bags.
I don't know of others, but when my max size carry on is bursting, it has my winter parka, scarf, mitts, running shoes and one set of work out clothes, steel toed boots and a heavy construction site reflective vest, in addition to the office suit. So I agree that most people not travelling for work have too much.   

Some are bringing gifts, or food for their trip ( it was a shopping trip for lower cost items). Others have vacation sports equipment and clothes. I guess many women have three pair of shoes - that is my problem: runners, office shoes, comfy or airplane walk around shoes, and steel toe boots.
Usually if I want to be very light I have to wear the boots on board which is a pain through security, not comfy, and looks bad with the suit   So I pack flats for the office.

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« Reply #6606 on: January 28, 2015, 04:13:48 PM »
We both hate checking bags, so we always just do carry-on. 

How come?  My sister always gives me grief for checking my bag (as long as I can do so for free), haven't been able to figure out why.

Just because your bag CAN be carried on, doesn't mean you HAVE to.  Checking a bag doesn't mean you're traveling any heavier.  Most airports have the baggage thing down to a pretty good system, assisted by the fact there are way less bags, now that everyone carries theirs on.  I'd say at least half the time, by the time I get off the plane, hit up the bathroom, and make my way through the airport to the baggage claim, the carousel is already going.  Sometimes I have to wait 5 minutes.  The only thing I carry with me is a book.  Way better that carrying a bag through two airports, more with a layover.  Makes security easier way easier, though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope, and they're always suspicious of me not having a bag.

Compared to having to open my bag in security to get my laptop out, which I have to put in a separate bin for some reason, then put it back in.  Since I carry a duffle not a roller suitcase, I don't like having the laptop right on top, so this can be a pain.  Now I get to lug it through the airport and stand crowded around the gate with the rest of the group because they're worried about getting on early before the overhead bins fill up, not caring that they're in the way of the elderly and disabled trying to board before them.  Their luggage is more important.  Then we get to awkwardly try to stuff our bags into a spot in the overfull bins, then awkwardly pull them back down again when we land.  Now I get to carry it through another airport.  Have a connecting flight?  Repeat until finished.

Nah, I'll walk around with my book, wait till final boarding in the relative comfort of the now-empty waiting area, walk on and sit right down, mosey back off the plane, and wait 5 minutes for my bag, thankful for all the baggage handlers that went to all that hassle for me.

Rant over ;-)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6607 on: January 28, 2015, 04:37:34 PM »
Maybe, depending on your version of Mustachian.

I think traveling without a bag has such a freeing feeling and may enable other experiences that you might not otherwise have (or a mindset for those) that it's worth trying.

To each his own.  :)

Those links posted started me down a hole...of the rabbit kind (so thanks for that, I really didn't have work to do today :P). I'm super minimalist with clothes (as in, my GF just recently insisted I had to have more than 3 pairs of pants, and no, none could have holes...so she bought me four pairs), but our trip to Cancun last year ran into the 50lb/bag weight limit. Scuba gear is heavy!! I need to figure that out since we are going to be travelling 6 months out of the year once we catch FIRE. Still reading those links...and my boss is pestering me on IM to 'get work done'. Pfft.

We've just started to plan our "gear" for our round the world trip.  It's very exciting.

(We have some previous experience, we carefully chose gear for our 2+ month Europe backpacking trip in 2009 and were very happy with it.)

Being minimalist with clothes is a necessity for fitting everything you own into a reasonable-sized backpack.
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« Reply #6608 on: January 28, 2015, 04:49:45 PM »
How come?  My sister always gives me grief for checking my bag (as long as I can do so for free), haven't been able to figure out why.

Just because your bag CAN be carried on, doesn't mean you HAVE to.  Checking a bag doesn't mean you're traveling any heavier.  Most airports have the baggage thing down to a pretty good system, assisted by the fact there are way less bags, now that everyone carries theirs on.  I'd say at least half the time, by the time I get off the plane, hit up the bathroom, and make my way through the airport to the baggage claim, the carousel is already going.  Sometimes I have to wait 5 minutes.  The only thing I carry with me is a book.  Way better that carrying a bag through two airports, more with a layover.  Makes security easier way easier, though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope, and they're always suspicious of me not having a bag.

Compared to having to open my bag in security to get my laptop out, which I have to put in a separate bin for some reason, then put it back in.  Since I carry a duffle not a roller suitcase, I don't like having the laptop right on top, so this can be a pain.  Now I get to lug it through the airport and stand crowded around the gate with the rest of the group because they're worried about getting on early before the overhead bins fill up, not caring that they're in the way of the elderly and disabled trying to board before them.  Their luggage is more important.  Then we get to awkwardly try to stuff our bags into a spot in the overfull bins, then awkwardly pull them back down again when we land.  Now I get to carry it through another airport.  Have a connecting flight?  Repeat until finished.

Nah, I'll walk around with my book, wait till final boarding in the relative comfort of the now-empty waiting area, walk on and sit right down, mosey back off the plane, and wait 5 minutes for my bag, thankful for all the baggage handlers that went to all that hassle for me.

Rant over ;-)

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« Reply #6609 on: January 28, 2015, 04:52:55 PM »
though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope

Good for you.

I opt out 100% of the time too, and though I hate the grope, if you're going to violate my 4th amendment rights via the nude body scanners, I'm going to protest in whatever small form I can, and force you to go through the uncomfortable body search.
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« Reply #6610 on: January 28, 2015, 05:21:11 PM »
Maybe, depending on your version of Mustachian.

I think traveling without a bag has such a freeing feeling and may enable other experiences that you might not otherwise have (or a mindset for those) that it's worth trying.

To each his own.  :)

Those links posted started me down a hole...of the rabbit kind (so thanks for that, I really didn't have work to do today :P). I'm super minimalist with clothes (as in, my GF just recently insisted I had to have more than 3 pairs of pants, and no, none could have holes...so she bought me four pairs), but our trip to Cancun last year ran into the 50lb/bag weight limit. Scuba gear is heavy!! I need to figure that out since we are going to be travelling 6 months out of the year once we catch FIRE. Still reading those links...and my boss is pestering me on IM to 'get work done'. Pfft.

We've just started to plan our "gear" for our round the world trip.  It's very exciting.

(We have some previous experience, we carefully chose gear for our 2+ month Europe backpacking trip in 2009 and were very happy with it.)

Being minimalist with clothes is a necessity for fitting everything you own into a reasonable-sized backpack.

Missed that one, my apologies. I talked to GoCurryCracker, and a few others regarding minimalism, and they all said that a backpacking trip puts things into perspective. Since my GF doesn't do carrying, it would all be on me, so I was super stoked when she mentioned doing the Appalachian trail. Should be interesting. Have you posted your experiences anywhere? I remember talking about it, but there was so much oxygen there...:P

though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope

Good for you.

I opt out 100% of the time too, and though I hate the grope, if you're going to violate my 4th amendment rights via the nude body scanners, I'm going to protest in whatever small form I can, and force you to go through the uncomfortable body search.


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« Reply #6611 on: January 28, 2015, 06:23:44 PM »
We have a portfolio of individual stocks in addition to our index funds. One of the fun things about stocks is that they are a great conversation starter amongst like-minded people. So me and a few guys were chatting about our stocks and what looks good into the future.

One of my younger co-workers who was listening to the good-natured bragging said, "I need to learn how to buy stocks. This sounds really good."

Metta: "Yes, it is a lot of fun! But be sure that you are investing in the 401K, preferably one of the index funds options since our company picks up a lot of the fees. And Vanguard's fees are low already. Then buy stocks with your fun money once the safe investments are taken care of."

Younger Co-Worker: "I have talked to too many people who lost a lot of money in the 401K in 2008. I don't think the index funds are safe. I want to own individual stocks."

Metta: "People lost money because they sold their index funds when the market dropped. Had they stayed put they would have made a lot more than they lost. Index funds are safer than individual stocks."

Younger Co-Worker: "That can't be true."

Metta shrugs. "Read up on investing."

*Head explodes* All index funds are just collections of individual stocks. How could an individual stock be safer than hundreds of individual stocks?

Your young co-worker really does need to at least learn the basics.

Yes, she does. But before she can learn, she needs to be open to learning, which she currently is not. She has many other distractions at the moment and "knows" that index funds are risky in the same way my Depression era grandparents "knew" that it was better to store their wealth as precious metals and jade.

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« Reply #6612 on: January 28, 2015, 07:25:28 PM »
We both hate checking bags, so we always just do carry-on. 

How come?  My sister always gives me grief for checking my bag (as long as I can do so for free), haven't been able to figure out why.

Just because your bag CAN be carried on, doesn't mean you HAVE to.  Checking a bag doesn't mean you're traveling any heavier.  Most airports have the baggage thing down to a pretty good system, assisted by the fact there are way less bags, now that everyone carries theirs on.  I'd say at least half the time, by the time I get off the plane, hit up the bathroom, and make my way through the airport to the baggage claim, the carousel is already going.  Sometimes I have to wait 5 minutes.  The only thing I carry with me is a book.  Way better that carrying a bag through two airports, more with a layover.  Makes security easier way easier, though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope, and they're always suspicious of me not having a bag.

Compared to having to open my bag in security to get my laptop out, which I have to put in a separate bin for some reason, then put it back in.  Since I carry a duffle not a roller suitcase, I don't like having the laptop right on top, so this can be a pain.  Now I get to lug it through the airport and stand crowded around the gate with the rest of the group because they're worried about getting on early before the overhead bins fill up, not caring that they're in the way of the elderly and disabled trying to board before them.  Their luggage is more important.  Then we get to awkwardly try to stuff our bags into a spot in the overfull bins, then awkwardly pull them back down again when we land.  Now I get to carry it through another airport.  Have a connecting flight?  Repeat until finished.

Nah, I'll walk around with my book, wait till final boarding in the relative comfort of the now-empty waiting area, walk on and sit right down, mosey back off the plane, and wait 5 minutes for my bag, thankful for all the baggage handlers that went to all that hassle for me.

Rant over ;-)

*Shrug*. To each his own.  You have your reasons.  Here are mine: 1) I like having my stuff with me, with no chance of having it lost by the airline; 2) I like the discipline of not bringing a metric crapload of stuff with me for a short trip; 3) I like being generally self-contained; 4) I'm a freeze baby, so I often need another sweater or a change from shorts to jeans when I'm in an airport; 5) I hate dicking around at baggage claim; 6) The best periods of my life have been when I was literally living out of one suitcase, and I love feeling that nothing is important to me except what I have with me.  Hey, check your small bag: you do you.  Me, I like to feel like I've got everything I will ever need, right there.
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« Reply #6613 on: January 28, 2015, 08:01:34 PM »
CW1 to CW2: Want to go out to lunch today?
Cw2: Sure, but let's go somewhere we cheap, I just spent $200 on shoes and my cc is almost maxed.
cw1: should we invite cw3 (me)
cw2: nah, she brought her lunch AGAIN today.
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Me: yes, I can't hardly wait.
cw2: Man, you're so lucky. I wish I could afford to on vacation. How do you have enough money to go on vacation?
Me thinking to myself: Because I don't go out to lunch every.single.day, spend hundreds on shoes, and max out my cc!!
 

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« Reply #6614 on: January 28, 2015, 10:52:54 PM »
Do people really not get it?
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« Reply #6615 on: January 28, 2015, 11:21:36 PM »
Do people really not get it?
If you don't track your expenses, whether it's manually or through something like Mint, it's actually kind of hard to realize how much you're spending on a daily or weekly basis. It's generally not the occasional big purchase that can blow up your expenses, it's the sum of slow bleeds. (This is of course only relevant to the lunch every single day portion of Roxy's commentary). MMM alludes to this himself in his a million is made ten bucks at a time post.

Try asking any Starbucks addict that doesn't track expenses how much they think they're spending on coffee. They're going to very easily low ball it by 2x, if not closer to 4x or 5x.

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« Reply #6616 on: January 28, 2015, 11:22:58 PM »
Do people really not get it?
If you don't track your expenses, whether it's manually or through something like Mint, it's actually kind of hard to realize how much you're spending on a daily or weekly basis. It's generally not the occasional big purchase that can blow up your expenses, it's the sum of slow bleeds. (This is of course only relevant to the lunch every single day portion of Roxy's commentary). MMM alludes to this himself in his a million is made ten bucks at a time post.

Try asking any Starbucks addict that doesn't track expenses how much they think they're spending on coffee. They're going to very easily low ball it by 2x, if not closer to 4x or 5x.

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« Reply #6617 on: January 28, 2015, 11:32:07 PM »
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We've just started to plan our "gear" for our round the world trip.  It's very exciting.
(We have some previous experience, we carefully chose gear for our 2+ month Europe backpacking trip in 2009 and were very happy with it.)
Being minimalist with clothes is a necessity for fitting everything you own into a reasonable-sized backpack.

Having complete 1/2 of a RTW trip already, I've been heavily schooled in the art of CLS (Carry less shit), and the disease I call TMS (You guessed it: Too Much Shit). For example, "That guy needs to practice some CLS man, he's got TMS.

While my wife and I were in Australia in 2013, we decided to visit S.E Asia. We ended up staying in the area for 7 weeks. Checking a bag on the no frills airline was another fee, so we opted for carry on. My bag for 7 weeks was 12 liters plus a 6 liter dry bag for my camera/electronics. My wife carried a 25 liter (only bag we had, too big for her). The mild tropical climate played a large part in the fact that we didn't need cold weather gear.

We visited Ecuador this year for a month with my retired parents. Due to the difference in climate between the 13k foot mountains, the jungle and the coast, I carried 36 liters, and she carried 40.

I can go anywhere in the world (with the exception of arctic climates), and live for an indefinite period of time with a 35liter pack (Less if I don't need my size 14 boots and I don't carry a laptop and camera), and I LOVE the freedom that that involves. Too many times I've seen the young travelers suffering from TMS that walk around with 60liter packs with shit hanging off of them.

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« Reply #6618 on: January 29, 2015, 02:10:54 AM »
Shame on me, I am one of those with a 60l+x backpack. (2years trip) Only carry-on is quite difficult with a leatherman  in your pocket and necessary liquids. And no, haven't found those liquids outside my country.
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« Reply #6619 on: January 29, 2015, 06:42:42 AM »
We both hate checking bags, so we always just do carry-on. 

How come?  My sister always gives me grief for checking my bag (as long as I can do so for free), haven't been able to figure out why.

Just because your bag CAN be carried on, doesn't mean you HAVE to.  Checking a bag doesn't mean you're traveling any heavier.  Most airports have the baggage thing down to a pretty good system, assisted by the fact there are way less bags, now that everyone carries theirs on.  I'd say at least half the time, by the time I get off the plane, hit up the bathroom, and make my way through the airport to the baggage claim, the carousel is already going.  Sometimes I have to wait 5 minutes.  The only thing I carry with me is a book.  Way better that carrying a bag through two airports, more with a layover.  Makes security easier way easier, though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope, and they're always suspicious of me not having a bag.

Compared to having to open my bag in security to get my laptop out, which I have to put in a separate bin for some reason, then put it back in.  Since I carry a duffle not a roller suitcase, I don't like having the laptop right on top, so this can be a pain.  Now I get to lug it through the airport and stand crowded around the gate with the rest of the group because they're worried about getting on early before the overhead bins fill up, not caring that they're in the way of the elderly and disabled trying to board before them.  Their luggage is more important.  Then we get to awkwardly try to stuff our bags into a spot in the overfull bins, then awkwardly pull them back down again when we land.  Now I get to carry it through another airport.  Have a connecting flight?  Repeat until finished.

Nah, I'll walk around with my book, wait till final boarding in the relative comfort of the now-empty waiting area, walk on and sit right down, mosey back off the plane, and wait 5 minutes for my bag, thankful for all the baggage handlers that went to all that hassle for me.

Rant over ;-)

*Shrug*. To each his own.  You have your reasons.  Here are mine: 1) I like having my stuff with me, with no chance of having it lost by the airline; 2) I like the discipline of not bringing a metric crapload of stuff with me for a short trip; 3) I like being generally self-contained; 4) I'm a freeze baby, so I often need another sweater or a change from shorts to jeans when I'm in an airport; 5) I hate dicking around at baggage claim; 6) The best periods of my life have been when I was literally living out of one suitcase, and I love feeling that nothing is important to me except what I have with me.  Hey, check your small bag: you do you.  Me, I like to feel like I've got everything I will ever need, right there.

+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "whose black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once exiting the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
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« Reply #6620 on: January 29, 2015, 07:03:33 AM »
though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope

Good for you.

I opt out 100% of the time too, and though I hate the grope, if you're going to violate my 4th amendment rights via the nude body scanners, I'm going to protest in whatever small form I can, and force you to go through the uncomfortable body search.

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« Reply #6621 on: January 29, 2015, 07:15:43 AM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

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« Reply #6622 on: January 29, 2015, 07:31:29 AM »
Shame on me, I am one of those with a 60l+x backpack. (2years trip) Only carry-on is quite difficult with a leatherman  in your pocket and necessary liquids. And no, haven't found those liquids outside my country.

I have a 46 litre Osprey Porter. We took it to Thailand with us. Was freaking amazing. It's not made for backpacking, but just moving around luggage was awesome. We did check one bigger suitcase but used this as our other option. So easy to either use it like a briefcase or use it like a backpack in the airport. Sold out on amazon though. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GC12QU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Basically the best thing ever for us especially when you can cinch it down to make it smaller.
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« Reply #6623 on: January 29, 2015, 08:22:27 AM »
Shame on me, I am one of those with a 60l+x backpack. (2years trip) Only carry-on is quite difficult with a leatherman  in your pocket and necessary liquids. And no, haven't found those liquids outside my country.

I have a 46 litre Osprey Porter. We took it to Thailand with us. Was freaking amazing. It's not made for backpacking, but just moving around luggage was awesome. We did check one bigger suitcase but used this as our other option. So easy to either use it like a briefcase or use it like a backpack in the airport. Sold out on amazon though. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GC12QU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Basically the best thing ever for us especially when you can cinch it down to make it smaller.

I must be TMSing. I have a Denali 5500 (90 litres!!) that I use for backpacking. Granted, I don't have a backpacking tent, so that takes up most of the space, and my SO will not go if she has to carry something, plus the food for people and dogs. If I get an actual backpacking tent (or even one that wasn't $20 on craigslist), I could downgrade. I wish I had the picture from our first attempt. I looked ridiculous. When we got back and weighed it, I was lugging around 90lbs of crap we didn't need. It was a fun experience getting that stuff dialed in, though.
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« Reply #6624 on: January 29, 2015, 08:35:58 AM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

OT+Foamy, but your post gives me a good opportunity to voice a pet peeve of mine.  This is not directed at you, but again your post gave me an opp!

Anyone who stands right next to the baggage claim conveyor to wait for their bag needs to move back a few feet until they actually see their bag.  That way, when I see my bag I don't have to push my way through the other travelers, and the group of family and or friends that are visiting with them, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVEYOR!
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« Reply #6625 on: January 29, 2015, 08:45:45 AM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

I've given my all black bags some yellow duct tape racing stripes.  Can't miss them now. 

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« Reply #6626 on: January 29, 2015, 08:48:46 AM »
I've given my all black bags some yellow duct tape racing stripes.  Can't miss them now.

Also a lot more safer on the street and less likely to be stolen.

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« Reply #6627 on: January 29, 2015, 08:56:38 AM »
My SO packs a box with clothing/essentials (a cardboard box), and ships the thing USPS to the destination (family). She brings only a backpack when flying.

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« Reply #6628 on: January 29, 2015, 09:46:41 AM »
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We've just started to plan our "gear" for our round the world trip.  It's very exciting.
(We have some previous experience, we carefully chose gear for our 2+ month Europe backpacking trip in 2009 and were very happy with it.)
Being minimalist with clothes is a necessity for fitting everything you own into a reasonable-sized backpack.

Having complete 1/2 of a RTW trip already, I've been heavily schooled in the art of CLS (Carry less shit), and the disease I call TMS (You guessed it: Too Much Shit). For example, "That guy needs to practice some CLS man, he's got TMS.

While my wife and I were in Australia in 2013, we decided to visit S.E Asia. We ended up staying in the area for 7 weeks. Checking a bag on the no frills airline was another fee, so we opted for carry on. My bag for 7 weeks was 12 liters plus a 6 liter dry bag for my camera/electronics. My wife carried a 25 liter (only bag we had, too big for her). The mild tropical climate played a large part in the fact that we didn't need cold weather gear.

We visited Ecuador this year for a month with my retired parents. Due to the difference in climate between the 13k foot mountains, the jungle and the coast, I carried 36 liters, and she carried 40.

I can go anywhere in the world (with the exception of arctic climates), and live for an indefinite period of time with a 35liter pack (Less if I don't need my size 14 boots and I don't carry a laptop and camera), and I LOVE the freedom that that involves. Too many times I've seen the young travelers suffering from TMS that walk around with 60liter packs with shit hanging off of them.

Yeah, we had 28L each and it was plenty.  We'll probably use those to start with, then downsize later.
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« Reply #6629 on: January 29, 2015, 10:11:51 AM »
though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope

Good for you.

I opt out 100% of the time too, and though I hate the grope, if you're going to violate my 4th amendment rights via the nude body scanners, I'm going to protest in whatever small form I can, and force you to go through the uncomfortable body search.

My wife and I were returning from vacation, and we both opted out of the TSA Porno Scanners. So, as we were receiving our matching Freedom Gropes, I yelled across the screening area to her: "Hey, we finally got that couples' massage you wanted!"

I've opted out of the scanners 90% of the time since they started putting them in (other 10% has been when we've been cutting it really close on time since it takes a lot longer). The wife likes to give me a hard time about it, but I'm happy with my meager protest against the erosion of my rights and making lots more people aware that it's happening (never ask for a private screening room so lots of people do double-takes at the tall, middle-aged white guy getting patted down...).

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« Reply #6630 on: January 29, 2015, 10:57:24 AM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

OT+Foamy, but your post gives me a good opportunity to voice a pet peeve of mine.  This is not directed at you, but again your post gave me an opp!

Anyone who stands right next to the baggage claim conveyor to wait for their bag needs to move back a few feet until they actually see their bag.  That way, when I see my bag I don't have to push my way through the other travelers, and the group of family and or friends that are visiting with them, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVEYOR!

OMG I want to stab those people. Especially when there's a line on the floor CLEARLY indicating "please stand behind this line." My boyfriend likes to just "accidentally" hit them with his suitcase as he pulls it off.

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« Reply #6631 on: January 29, 2015, 11:09:24 AM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

OT+Foamy, but your post gives me a good opportunity to voice a pet peeve of mine.  This is not directed at you, but again your post gave me an opp!

Anyone who stands right next to the baggage claim conveyor to wait for their bag needs to move back a few feet until they actually see their bag.  That way, when I see my bag I don't have to push my way through the other travelers, and the group of family and or friends that are visiting with them, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVEYOR!

OMG I want to stab those people. Especially when there's a line on the floor CLEARLY indicating "please stand behind this line." My boyfriend likes to just "accidentally" hit them with his suitcase as he pulls it off.

Stabbing is a bit much, no? But I know what you mean. Air travel seems to bring out the absolute worst qualities in people. I generally dislike flying because of the behavior of my fellow travelers. It's really quite disgusting.
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« Reply #6632 on: January 29, 2015, 11:32:46 AM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

OT+Foamy, but your post gives me a good opportunity to voice a pet peeve of mine.  This is not directed at you, but again your post gave me an opp!

Anyone who stands right next to the baggage claim conveyor to wait for their bag needs to move back a few feet until they actually see their bag.  That way, when I see my bag I don't have to push my way through the other travelers, and the group of family and or friends that are visiting with them, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVEYOR!

and this is why none of us are allowed to travel with anythign sharp. because of YOU!!


I agree with your thinking though.

OMG I want to stab those people. Especially when there's a line on the floor CLEARLY indicating "please stand behind this line." My boyfriend likes to just "accidentally" hit them with his suitcase as he pulls it off.
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« Reply #6633 on: January 29, 2015, 12:14:51 PM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

OT+Foamy, but your post gives me a good opportunity to voice a pet peeve of mine.  This is not directed at you, but again your post gave me an opp!

Anyone who stands right next to the baggage claim conveyor to wait for their bag needs to move back a few feet until they actually see their bag.  That way, when I see my bag I don't have to push my way through the other travelers, and the group of family and or friends that are visiting with them, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVEYOR!

OMG I want to stab those people. Especially when there's a line on the floor CLEARLY indicating "please stand behind this line." My boyfriend likes to just "accidentally" hit them with his suitcase as he pulls it off.

Stabbing is a bit much, no? But I know what you mean. Air travel seems to bring out the absolute worst qualities in people. I generally dislike flying because of the behavior of my fellow travelers. It's really quite disgusting.

Haha, maybe I'm overreacting a bit. UnleashHell's comment made me LOL. It's been a rough week :) But yes, totally agree about air travel bringing out the worst in humanity (and I'm far from a misanthrope, I really like people in general and am pretty tolerant... but the level of selfishness and rudeness you see at airports is pretty gross!)

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« Reply #6634 on: January 29, 2015, 12:39:24 PM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

I've given my all black bags some yellow duct tape racing stripes.  Can't miss them now.

I recommend a 7-year-old hardsided suitcase with identifying dents and missing hardware.

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« Reply #6635 on: January 29, 2015, 12:46:15 PM »
Back on OT:

My DH works with a guy going through a divorce, last year he made over $200,000 and he owns a busy construction company flipping houses and selling them and his crew is kept busy on other projects, like a new roof or inside work.

He is quitting and has to quit by a specific date so he can take a loan out on his 401k to pay for his divorce, now his divorce lawyer is quite expensive, but he has nothing to show for his excellent income, nothing, last year was really good to him but he has made well over 100k for at least 4 years, they have no children. It is just so sad that he hasn't saved anything, he told my DH that if they liquidated everything they could both just walk away, they have no equity in any of the homes, not enough to cover the debt anyway. It blows my mind.

And for most of those years she was working also.

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« Reply #6636 on: January 29, 2015, 01:39:59 PM »
though I'm one of those people that requests the freedom grope

Good for you.

I opt out 100% of the time too, and though I hate the grope, if you're going to violate my 4th amendment rights via the nude body scanners, I'm going to protest in whatever small form I can, and force you to go through the uncomfortable body search.

My wife and I were returning from vacation, and we both opted out of the TSA Porno Scanners. So, as we were receiving our matching Freedom Gropes, I yelled across the screening area to her: "Hey, we finally got that couples' massage you wanted!"

Lol, I always opt out and refer to it as "the free massage." 

I also hate waiting for checked baggage and carry on only if possible.  Likewise sometimes I'll take a middle seat near the front vs an aisle at the back for shorter flights

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« Reply #6637 on: January 29, 2015, 01:51:25 PM »
I'm also a light packer, but on longer vacations or to more exotic destinations I do check in a bag (medium size). Not because I need a lot of clothes, but because it gives me more flexibility if I want to say buy and bring back anything not allowed in carry-on (a bottle of local wine, for example).

Oh yeah, this is a good point. I've checked a lot of wine and beer in my time (have yet to have a catastrophic failure although it's really scary watching the baggage handlers sometimes). Booze is definitely the most embarrassingly anti-mustachian indulgence in my household.

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« Reply #6638 on: January 29, 2015, 02:04:11 PM »
Back on OT:

My DH works with a guy going through a divorce, last year he made over $200,000 and he owns a busy construction company flipping houses and selling them and his crew is kept busy on other projects, like a new roof or inside work.

He is quitting and has to quit by a specific date so he can take a loan out on his 401k to pay for his divorce, now his divorce lawyer is quite expensive, but he has nothing to show for his excellent income, nothing, last year was really good to him but he has made well over 100k for at least 4 years, they have no children. It is just so sad that he hasn't saved anything, he told my DH that if they liquidated everything they could both just walk away, they have no equity in any of the homes, not enough to cover the debt anyway. It blows my mind.

And for most of those years she was working also.

Any reason they could like... not get divorced?  It may be less expensive to plan on outliving your spouse.

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« Reply #6639 on: January 29, 2015, 03:37:41 PM »
I do not understand what this "sports" hair salon thing is. Is it just a hair salon with a bunch of sports memorabilia and TVs with sports games being shown? Are there men yelling "FOOTBALL" while giving or receiving hair cuts?

These are all the rage around here.  I can think of 4 or 5 within a couple of miles.  They give you beer when you walk in, there are sports on TVs all over the place, pictures of scantily clad women and cars on the walls, scantily clad women do the hair cutting.  There's even one that has a pool table. 

One of my clients owns one so my haircuts are free except the tip.

Mechanix? :) they just put one in a strip mall by me, FWIW they are offering $10 haircuts which is pretty cheap compared to other options.
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« Reply #6640 on: January 29, 2015, 05:20:54 PM »
One of my co-workers who lives in a fairly new 5000+ sq. ft. house was telling me that he and his wife will only be able to use half of the house because of some work that needs to be done downstairs. The furniture has been moved upstairs into the media room and now they must live constrained in a mere 2500 sq ft or so. He describes it as a sort of hellish situation that has been visited upon them. How will they manage to survive in less than 5000 sq ft?

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« Reply #6641 on: January 29, 2015, 05:56:14 PM »
Back on OT:

My DH works with a guy going through a divorce, last year he made over $200,000 and he owns a busy construction company flipping houses and selling them and his crew is kept busy on other projects, like a new roof or inside work.

He is quitting and has to quit by a specific date so he can take a loan out on his 401k to pay for his divorce, now his divorce lawyer is quite expensive, but he has nothing to show for his excellent income, nothing, last year was really good to him but he has made well over 100k for at least 4 years, they have no children. It is just so sad that he hasn't saved anything, he told my DH that if they liquidated everything they could both just walk away, they have no equity in any of the homes, not enough to cover the debt anyway. It blows my mind.

And for most of those years she was working also.

Any reason they could like... not get divorced?  It may be less expensive to plan on outliving your spouse.

Well that is their choice, and they are young

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« Reply #6642 on: January 29, 2015, 06:01:55 PM »
CW1 to CW2: Want to go out to lunch today?
Cw2: Sure, but let's go somewhere we cheap, I just spent $200 on shoes and my cc is almost maxed.
cw1: should we invite cw3 (me)
cw2: nah, she brought her lunch AGAIN today.
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Me: yes, I can't hardly wait.
cw2: Man, you're so lucky. I wish I could afford to on vacation. How do you have enough money to go on vacation?
Me thinking to myself: Because I don't go out to lunch every.single.day, spend hundreds on shoes, and max out my cc!!

I've adopted the same approach to this as to people saying they don't have artistic talent. If they say, "Oh, I can't draw," instead of convincing them to, I say, "Well, you put a lot of time into your golf, and I can't even hit the ball." So in these situations I just say, "Well, it depends what matters to you I guess. Shoes and lunch are important to you. I'm happy to do without so I can travel." I think it makes the point without being critical - shoes and lunch genuinely bring some people a lot of happiness.

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« Reply #6643 on: January 29, 2015, 06:07:16 PM »
Every time I go on holidays, now, people at work say, "You're not going to try to just take carry-on luggage are you? Don't do it!"

I cannot work out what they're trying to save me from.

I don't even carry it on! I switched to carry-on size because I'm usually carting art with me in my hand luggage and need to be able to change bags around if there's a security/luggage space issue. Now I love it because you can pick things up and run. Travelling alone, too, I wouldn't do it with a larger bag because who will mind it when you have to go to the bathroom?

For three days of my trip to the States last year I was able to leave most of my luggage with a friend and travel with just a little (fashion) backpack, and it was WONDERFUL. I could go to museums and hop on and off trains...

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« Reply #6644 on: January 29, 2015, 07:52:14 PM »
+1 on this!

There are few things that I hate more than having to walk down to baggage claim and wait endlessly for the series of "who's black bag is that?". It is just easier to have everything (relative term) with you and once existing the plane go straight to your next gate or car with no worries.
For the occasions I have checked a bag (ie, I was moving from one city to another), I usually like to tie some kind of colorful ribbon to my bag so I can much more easily pick out my black bag from the crowd.

OT+Foamy, but your post gives me a good opportunity to voice a pet peeve of mine.  This is not directed at you, but again your post gave me an opp!

Anyone who stands right next to the baggage claim conveyor to wait for their bag needs to move back a few feet until they actually see their bag.  That way, when I see my bag I don't have to push my way through the other travelers, and the group of family and or friends that are visiting with them, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVEYOR!

OMG I want to stab those people. Especially when there's a line on the floor CLEARLY indicating "please stand behind this line." My boyfriend likes to just "accidentally" hit them with his suitcase as he pulls it off.

Stabbing is a bit much, no? But I know what you mean. Air travel seems to bring out the absolute worst qualities in people. I generally dislike flying because of the behavior of my fellow travelers. It's really quite disgusting.

Haha, maybe I'm overreacting a bit. UnleashHell's comment made me LOL. It's been a rough week :) But yes, totally agree about air travel bringing out the worst in humanity (and I'm far from a misanthrope, I really like people in general and am pretty tolerant... but the level of selfishness and rudeness you see at airports is pretty gross!)

I have an even better story. I flew yesterday, and while waiting for the checked baggage to come up the carousel a group of thugs were using the sides of the carousel to practice their skate tricks with their skateboards. And they didn't stop when the luggage started coming out. So to getyour bags you had to dodge flying skateboards and boarders.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6645 on: January 30, 2015, 06:22:39 AM »
I have an even better story. I flew yesterday, and while waiting for the checked baggage to come up the carousel a group of thugs were using the sides of the carousel to practice their skate tricks with their skateboards. And they didn't stop when the luggage started coming out. So to getyour bags you had to dodge flying skateboards and boarders.
Thats why all that silly "security" is really BS. With a nice, old-fashioned Naginata in the luggage it would not be you dodging skateboards but skateboards doging you! At least after the first 2 or 3 have been halved.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6646 on: January 30, 2015, 07:18:30 AM »
at least the orange black box foam was entertaining... this is just boring... my carryon is smaller than yours... who cares

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6647 on: January 30, 2015, 07:29:03 AM »
I do not understand what this "sports" hair salon thing is. Is it just a hair salon with a bunch of sports memorabilia and TVs with sports games being shown? Are there men yelling "FOOTBALL" while giving or receiving hair cuts?

These are all the rage around here.  I can think of 4 or 5 within a couple of miles.  They give you beer when you walk in, there are sports on TVs all over the place, pictures of scantily clad women and cars on the walls, scantily clad women do the hair cutting.  There's even one that has a pool table. 

One of my clients owns one so my haircuts are free except the tip.

Mechanix? :) they just put one in a strip mall by me, FWIW they are offering $10 haircuts which is pretty cheap compared to other options.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6648 on: January 30, 2015, 07:56:31 AM »
Every time I go on holidays, now, people at work say, "You're not going to try to just take carry-on luggage are you? Don't do it!"

I cannot work out what they're trying to save me from.

I don't even carry it on! I switched to carry-on size because I'm usually carting art with me in my hand luggage and need to be able to change bags around if there's a security/luggage space issue. Now I love it because you can pick things up and run. Travelling alone, too, I wouldn't do it with a larger bag because who will mind it when you have to go to the bathroom?

For three days of my trip to the States last year I was able to leave most of my luggage with a friend and travel with just a little (fashion) backpack, and it was WONDERFUL. I could go to museums and hop on and off trains...

I have to brag, because I am the queen of packing.  Our family of 4 just went on a 2-week vacation with just 3 backpacks (the kind you would bring to school, not the kind for camping) and 2 small duffel bags (20 inches.) And we even brought our snorkeling gear.
For work, I have traveled to Moscow in the winter for a week with just a 20-inch carryon.
I am constantly amazed at the amount of stuff that people travel with.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #6649 on: January 30, 2015, 08:36:51 AM »
at least the orange black box foam was entertaining... this is just boring... my carryon is smaller than yours... who cares

And a comment like this adds what?

People will ignore it and post what they want, the side conversation either way will peter out, and it'll get back on track.
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