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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4850 on: October 19, 2014, 02:49:25 AM »
It is possible to not lose money at the casino (or even come out ahead) on average if you don't play the wrong games and take advantage of promotional deals. See Casino Gambling for Dummies. I don't recommend gambling in general, but if you are going to do it on occasion then it's best to be informed.
If i remember correctly (never gamble, hope I do not confuse the names lol) Black Jack is the only casino game where the bank is in disadvantage bc the dealer has to make a move. There are certain techniques to use this - and if you use them and win, you get thrown out ;)

My son and 3 of his mates got black banned from a casino in our state for playing Black Jack. They made $25k between them in a couple of hours, on a $4k investment. They did spend some months planning the event, but pulled the "we've all just turned 18, this is our first visit to a casino, we didn't know it was illegal". 2/3 ain't bad. It's a self-limiting game though, there are only so many casinos you can do that to before you get too old / people start to know you.
Well, it isnt illegal, right? I cant think of a law that would make the use of math in your head illegal.
Then again, its the states, so who knows?

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« Reply #4851 on: October 19, 2014, 03:10:21 AM »
Australia here, not the states. And while card counting itself isn't illegal here, it is if you use an external aid (and other people are included in this definition). So no apps or partners. It wasn't the counting as such as much as the fact that they were doing it in a team.

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« Reply #4852 on: October 19, 2014, 06:06:03 AM »
I think its more like a nighclub... here they can kick you up for no reason, and I think the rules are the same in casinos...

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« Reply #4853 on: October 19, 2014, 08:34:16 AM »
My DW tells me today that one of her co-workers bought a $2800 Louis Vuitton purse. Another co-worker and her were talking about it and DW says she thinks its crazy. The other co-worker says she would probably do it if she had the money. DW just laughs and says well when you are all still working at 65 and I've been retired well before, I hope you still have that purse! These people only make $40,000/year and are spending 7% of their income on purses. SMH.

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« Reply #4854 on: October 19, 2014, 05:19:59 PM »
$2800 purse on a $40,000 wage... that's crazy! It's crazy enough when my co-workers on $150K salaries (who still have mortgages) do it, but this is just nuts?!

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« Reply #4855 on: October 20, 2014, 12:09:31 PM »
Counting cards isn't illegal, but a casino will throw you out because they don't like to lose. Throwing you out also isn't illegal.

Also, that is hilarious about the purse. Who does that?

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« Reply #4856 on: October 20, 2014, 01:17:58 PM »
LOL - We are actually in the camp of throwing stuff out instead of moving it.  Just the rental fees of the truck and gas expense is  worth way more than the old bachelor furniture we currently have.

How do you get diffrent stuff to the new place then without moving it? You toss out your old stuff. You get to the new place now what?

The plan is to take out a very high interest loan and buy a bunch of stuff for the new house from the highest end stores in town.  Then I will make the minimum payments on that high interest loan.  I will delay buying this stuff  for months though so that we can eat out at restarants every day instead of utizing our kitchen.

This is stupid.  I suggest rent-to-own instead.

Why the hell would you do that?? You'll get repo'd on a rent-to-own once you default! When I default on the credit card it just goes to stupid collections and I get to keep the stuff.

I just rent-to-own.  Then when I have to move for non-payment of rent I don't need to move all that crap.  I just stop paying and let them repo it.  Moving problem solved!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4857 on: October 21, 2014, 12:53:00 PM »
My co-worker just bought a $2,000 Michele watch. I'm not quite sure what her husband makes so they may or may not have the money for it, but I still just can't fathom owing a $2,000 watch, I know they're not rich but they may make around $100K/year. I just think it's completely stupid, but I guess one must own a fancy pants watch. Sad thing is, yesterday she wasn't even wearing it...she's owned it a week and I have yet to see it...

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« Reply #4858 on: October 21, 2014, 01:05:19 PM »
Sad thing is, yesterday she wasn't even wearing it...she's owned it a week and I have yet to see it...

It reminds me of people who buy really fancy, new cars, and never drive them because they want them to stay nice....

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4859 on: October 21, 2014, 01:09:12 PM »
Poker you can count cards and will win something like 51% of the time if you do... but of course the house doesn't let you win, they kick you out. if I am not allowed to play to win why would I play?

Counting cards can give you the edge in black jack (not poker).  It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon by all casinos and they will kick you out and ban you if they catch you.  They like to keep the edge in their favor.

You don't count cards in poker.  You also don't play against the casino (you play against other poker players).  The casino will either charge you a set amount of money per hour to use the seat, or they will take a small percentage (called a rake) of each pot.  The casino gets paid regardless of who wins at poker.  Poker is the only game (with the exception of black jack - if you count cards) that you can actually win money in the long term.  All other casino games the house has the edge and you will lose money if you keep playing - that is how casinos make money.

[edited to add - If you are dominating a poker room and it's causing other players to leave then the casino might be losing money and they can kick you out for that.  as long as people are still playing and dumping money though the casino is getting theirs and they don't care if you win.  This is why there are professional poker players, but no professional slots/craps/roulette players]


Why would you continue to play?  You either

1. acknowledge that you are going to lose money and are willing to pay that cost in exchange for entertainment
2. don't acknowledge that as fact and keep playing thinking you will win money (but you won't), or
3. you are addicted and have a gambling problem.
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« Reply #4860 on: October 22, 2014, 07:11:47 AM »
Poker you can count cards and will win something like 51% of the time if you do... but of course the house doesn't let you win, they kick you out. if I am not allowed to play to win why would I play?

Counting cards can give you the edge in black jack (not poker).  It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon by all casinos and they will kick you out and ban you if they catch you.  They like to keep the edge in their favor.

You don't count cards in poker.  You also don't play against the casino (you play against other poker players).  The casino will either charge you a set amount of money per hour to use the seat, or they will take a small percentage (called a rake) of each pot.  The casino gets paid regardless of who wins at poker.  Poker is the only game (with the exception of black jack - if you count cards) that you can actually win money in the long term.  All other casino games the house has the edge and you will lose money if you keep playing - that is how casinos make money.

[edited to add - If you are dominating a poker room and it's causing other players to leave then the casino might be losing money and they can kick you out for that.  as long as people are still playing and dumping money though the casino is getting theirs and they don't care if you win.  This is why there are professional poker players, but no professional slots/craps/roulette players]


Why would you continue to play?  You either

1. acknowledge that you are going to lose money and are willing to pay that cost in exchange for entertainment
2. don't acknowledge that as fact and keep playing thinking you will win money (but you won't), or
3. you are addicted and have a gambling problem.

If you play perfect by the book 7 deck shoe blackjack you should win theoretically I think like 50.1% of the time.  The problem is that many casinos have slightly changed the rules.  For example if you wander onto a table that pays 5:4 or 7:5  instead of 3:2 on blackjack, you found a loser table.  The best way to play blackjack is to play perfect by the book and have as many complimentary drinks as possible.  Your .1% loss should be less than the free beverages :-).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4861 on: October 22, 2014, 07:54:57 AM »
Lots of people have picked up on my lack of gambling understanding he he he. Can you tell I avoid casinos? Easy to do when the only one within less than a 30 hour drive is owned by someone I don't like (packer jnr).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4862 on: October 22, 2014, 08:12:56 AM »

I don't believe what I bolded in your post. I'm going to counter your n=1 situation with my own! I have never had a transaction declined. Guess it's a draw. I'm sure it happens sometimes but CC companies seem to be very good at knowing how much money they are loaning to you since it's their own damn money.
Or they block it because you had a suspicious transaction. Once my card was cloned and used in the US for certain type of popular shops.
Next time I was there and I tried to shop in a similar type of shop my transaction was accepted, but subsequently my card was blocked until I could speak with a representative from the bank.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4863 on: October 22, 2014, 08:14:34 AM »
Poker you can count cards and will win something like 51% of the time if you do... but of course the house doesn't let you win, they kick you out. if I am not allowed to play to win why would I play?

Counting cards can give you the edge in black jack (not poker).  It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon by all casinos and they will kick you out and ban you if they catch you.  They like to keep the edge in their favor.

You don't count cards in poker.  You also don't play against the casino (you play against other poker players).  The casino will either charge you a set amount of money per hour to use the seat, or they will take a small percentage (called a rake) of each pot.  The casino gets paid regardless of who wins at poker.  Poker is the only game (with the exception of black jack - if you count cards) that you can actually win money in the long term.  All other casino games the house has the edge and you will lose money if you keep playing - that is how casinos make money.

[edited to add - If you are dominating a poker room and it's causing other players to leave then the casino might be losing money and they can kick you out for that.  as long as people are still playing and dumping money though the casino is getting theirs and they don't care if you win.  This is why there are professional poker players, but no professional slots/craps/roulette players]


Why would you continue to play?  You either

1. acknowledge that you are going to lose money and are willing to pay that cost in exchange for entertainment
2. don't acknowledge that as fact and keep playing thinking you will win money (but you won't), or
3. you are addicted and have a gambling problem.

If you play perfect by the book 7 deck shoe blackjack you should win theoretically I think like 50.1% of the time.  The problem is that many casinos have slightly changed the rules.  For example if you wander onto a table that pays 5:4 or 7:5  instead of 3:2 on blackjack, you found a loser table.  The best way to play blackjack is to play perfect by the book and have as many complimentary drinks as possible.  Your .1% loss should be less than the free beverages :-).

wrong you do not have an advantage even at 3/2 a casino doesnt play a game where you EVER have an advantage greater than 49.9% it doesnt make sense for them to do this.  people who dont know odds stop posting that you can make money playing blackjack without counting - and counting doesnt work without 2 people and at most 2 decks
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4864 on: October 22, 2014, 08:55:46 AM »
wrong you do not have an advantage even at 3/2 a casino doesnt play a game where you EVER have an advantage greater than 49.9% it doesnt make sense for them to do this.  people who dont know odds stop posting that you can make money playing blackjack without counting - and counting doesnt work without 2 people and at most 2 decks

Agreed. If you follow basic Black Jack strategy the best you can expect is to minimize your losses; you can not gain an edge without counting. You can count cards with one person and with more than 2 decks, but the more decks (and the earlier they are shuffled) the worse your odds become.

Even if you are perfect at counting cards, find a table that has favorable rules that give you an edge, and a casino that won't kick you out there is still the emotional aspect to consider. Due to statistical variance sometimes you will lose a lot of money. This is not much different than investing in the stock market. You might start second guessing your strategy and whether you truly have an edge. In addition, you have to start with a significant bankroll to be able to soak up the inevitable losses. This is not a profession for those with a weak constitution.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4865 on: October 22, 2014, 09:05:55 AM »
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« Reply #4866 on: October 22, 2014, 09:22:55 AM »
Poker you can count cards and will win something like 51% of the time if you do... but of course the house doesn't let you win, they kick you out. if I am not allowed to play to win why would I play?

Counting cards can give you the edge in black jack (not poker).  It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon by all casinos and they will kick you out and ban you if they catch you.  They like to keep the edge in their favor.

You don't count cards in poker.  You also don't play against the casino (you play against other poker players).  The casino will either charge you a set amount of money per hour to use the seat, or they will take a small percentage (called a rake) of each pot.  The casino gets paid regardless of who wins at poker.  Poker is the only game (with the exception of black jack - if you count cards) that you can actually win money in the long term.  All other casino games the house has the edge and you will lose money if you keep playing - that is how casinos make money.

[edited to add - If you are dominating a poker room and it's causing other players to leave then the casino might be losing money and they can kick you out for that.  as long as people are still playing and dumping money though the casino is getting theirs and they don't care if you win.  This is why there are professional poker players, but no professional slots/craps/roulette players]


Why would you continue to play?  You either

1. acknowledge that you are going to lose money and are willing to pay that cost in exchange for entertainment
2. don't acknowledge that as fact and keep playing thinking you will win money (but you won't), or
3. you are addicted and have a gambling problem.

If you play perfect by the book 7 deck shoe blackjack you should win theoretically I think like 50.1% of the time.  The problem is that many casinos have slightly changed the rules.  For example if you wander onto a table that pays 5:4 or 7:5  instead of 3:2 on blackjack, you found a loser table.  The best way to play blackjack is to play perfect by the book and have as many complimentary drinks as possible.  Your .1% loss should be less than the free beverages :-).

wrong you do not have an advantage even at 3/2 a casino doesnt play a game where you EVER have an advantage greater than 49.9% it doesnt make sense for them to do this.  people who dont know odds stop posting that you can make money playing blackjack without counting - and counting doesnt work without 2 people and at most 2 decks

Yes sorry I said it backwards---if you play perfect you are a .1% disadvantage which isn't bad if you guzzle down the free drinks.

If you find a 5:4 or 7:5 table it's a real loser.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4867 on: October 22, 2014, 10:34:28 AM »
Excessive boring foam.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4868 on: October 22, 2014, 11:09:55 AM »
It only requires 1 person to count cards. 

I also doubt anyone's ability to play perfect black jack, let alone perfect black jack while guzzling down free alcohol drinks.


Back on topic:

My bosses are aware of my "freedom 40" plan to retire, and that I am frugal and always saving money.  I always bring my lunch instead of going out.  Usually about once a week my boss asks me to go out to lunch, and he always pays because he knows if I have to pay $10-12 for a lunch I will forgo and just eat my $2 packed lunch.  Plus he is the owner of the company and swimming in money so he pays.  If other people are in the office he usually invites them too, and always pays.  Today he invited all 3 guys in the office out to lunch, and both of the other guys declined, and then immediately went out to a different restaurant on their own. WTF?!?! Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4869 on: October 22, 2014, 02:22:48 PM »
A couple that both work at our company and looks like they work about the same hours. They drive a Escalate and Infinity SUV. Excuse is they need room for the kid (single). They drove them before the kid. I cant imagine how much gas and car payments are. They arnt super high income earners either.




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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4870 on: October 22, 2014, 02:36:30 PM »
Poker you can count cards and will win something like 51% of the time if you do... but of course the house doesn't let you win, they kick you out. if I am not allowed to play to win why would I play?

Counting cards can give you the edge in black jack (not poker).  It's not illegal, but highly frowned upon by all casinos and they will kick you out and ban you if they catch you.  They like to keep the edge in their favor.

You don't count cards in poker.  You also don't play against the casino (you play against other poker players).  The casino will either charge you a set amount of money per hour to use the seat, or they will take a small percentage (called a rake) of each pot.  The casino gets paid regardless of who wins at poker.  Poker is the only game (with the exception of black jack - if you count cards) that you can actually win money in the long term.  All other casino games the house has the edge and you will lose money if you keep playing - that is how casinos make money.

[edited to add - If you are dominating a poker room and it's causing other players to leave then the casino might be losing money and they can kick you out for that.  as long as people are still playing and dumping money though the casino is getting theirs and they don't care if you win.  This is why there are professional poker players, but no professional slots/craps/roulette players]


Why would you continue to play?  You either

1. acknowledge that you are going to lose money and are willing to pay that cost in exchange for entertainment
2. don't acknowledge that as fact and keep playing thinking you will win money (but you won't), or
3. you are addicted and have a gambling problem.

If you play perfect by the book 7 deck shoe blackjack you should win theoretically I think like 50.1% of the time.  The problem is that many casinos have slightly changed the rules.  For example if you wander onto a table that pays 5:4 or 7:5  instead of 3:2 on blackjack, you found a loser table.  The best way to play blackjack is to play perfect by the book and have as many complimentary drinks as possible.  Your .1% loss should be less than the free beverages :-).

wrong you do not have an advantage even at 3/2 a casino doesnt play a game where you EVER have an advantage greater than 49.9% it doesnt make sense for them to do this.  people who dont know odds stop posting that you can make money playing blackjack without counting - and counting doesnt work without 2 people and at most 2 decks

Time to put some of this nonsense to bed:

Blackjack:
1. You CAN count with one person. Obviously you would need to practice to do it effectively. If you're referring to the MIT team that employed multiple people to count, it's because they didn't want to be obvious about it. Once you're obvious about it, then the casino kicks you out.
2. You can count with 1 deck or a million. With card counting in Black Jack, you have a statistical edge in the long run, which means it doesn't matter how many decks you have. The odds are the same.
3. Counting only works if the deck (or decks) has a memory, which means the deck isn't shuffled after every deal (i.e. there IS a discard pile of used cards that are known 100%).
4. Using perfect basic strategy but no counting still puts you at a disadvantage when compared to the house, albeit a smaller one than if you were to not employ basic strategy.

Craps:
1. If left to random chance, the house has the edge (as with all casino games, obviously).
2. There is a theory that you can toss the dice so that statistically you will get certain combinations more than others. In the long run, and if done correctly (takes years and years of practice), will give you the edge, since you are tossing what favours you in the long run. Google "Dice Dominator," some guy that can roll what he needs the majority of the time (in the long run).

There is no house game in the casino that, if left to 100% randomness, gives the player the advantage.

Obviously, many people have been trying to "control" this randomness over the past few decades, sometimes legally (card counting, dice controlling, etc.), and sometimes illegally (past posting, using equipment, etc.).


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4871 on: October 22, 2014, 08:46:03 PM »

Time to put some of this nonsense to bed:

Blackjack:
1. You CAN count with one person. Obviously you would need to practice to do it effectively. If you're referring to the MIT team that employed multiple people to count, it's because they didn't want to be obvious about it. Once you're obvious about it, then the casino kicks you out.
2. You can count with 1 deck or a million. With card counting in Black Jack, you have a statistical edge in the long run, which means it doesn't matter how many decks you have. The odds are the same.
3. Counting only works if the deck (or decks) has a memory, which means the deck isn't shuffled after every deal (i.e. there IS a discard pile of used cards that are known 100%).
4. Using perfect basic strategy but no counting still puts you at a disadvantage when compared to the house, albeit a smaller one than if you were to not employ basic strategy.

Craps:
1. If left to random chance, the house has the edge (as with all casino games, obviously).
2. There is a theory that you can toss the dice so that statistically you will get certain combinations more than others. In the long run, and if done correctly (takes years and years of practice), will give you the edge, since you are tossing what favours you in the long run. Google "Dice Dominator," some guy that can roll what he needs the majority of the time (in the long run).

There is no house game in the casino that, if left to 100% randomness, gives the player the advantage.

Obviously, many people have been trying to "control" this randomness over the past few decades, sometimes legally (card counting, dice controlling, etc.), and sometimes illegally (past posting, using equipment, etc.).

I'm not sure you put any of the nonsense to bed. 

You don't need to know 100% of the discard pile in black jack.  Any partial amount you do know increases your odds, even if it's not 100%. 

I am still unconvinced on dice control.  I don't trust anything the history channel runs.  Dice control is such an easily testable theory that the fact there isn't a repeatable conclusive experiment demonstrating it makes me think it's false.   

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Re: Overheard at Work
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« Reply #4873 on: October 23, 2014, 07:17:39 AM »
you can count with one person but you cant be effective you'll get kicked out
they cut 2-2.5 decks out of that six deck shoe making the odds almost impossible to count. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4874 on: October 23, 2014, 07:27:10 AM »
One of the bosses noticed one of my coworkers (engineer) brought lunch. Said coworker remarks that he always tries to bring lunch to save money.

Too bad he buys 2+ big gulps of mountain dew every day, plus a midmorning snack and a mid afternoon snack or two every day from the expensive convenience store downstairs, and a lunch/ dinner or four a week.

Well, he's trying I guess.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4875 on: October 23, 2014, 07:38:14 AM »
A couple that both work at our company and looks like they work about the same hours. They drive a Escalate and Infinity SUV. Excuse is they need room for the kid (single). They drove them before the kid. I cant imagine how much gas and car payments are. They arnt super high income earners either.

And they don't drive together?  Out of all the idiocy their car choices portray, not carpooling is just plain stupid. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4876 on: October 23, 2014, 08:10:48 AM »
One of the bosses noticed one of my coworkers (engineer) brought lunch. Said coworker remarks that he always tries to bring lunch to save money.

Too bad he buys 2+ big gulps of mountain dew every day, plus a midmorning snack and a mid afternoon snack or two every day from the expensive convenience store downstairs, and a lunch/ dinner or four a week.

Well, he's trying I guess.

I'd be more worried about the effect that had on my waistline than my wallet.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4877 on: October 23, 2014, 08:27:12 AM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4878 on: October 23, 2014, 09:00:04 AM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

Well i like my boss, but even if I didn't - free red robin lunch!  Maybe i'm just cheap, but I would gladly sit through lunch with a person I disliked for a free lunch like that.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4879 on: October 23, 2014, 09:56:37 AM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

Well i like my boss, but even if I didn't - free red robin lunch!  Maybe i'm just cheap, but I would gladly sit through lunch with a person I disliked for a free lunch like that.

That red robin is(I'm guessing) less than a half mile from my office.  I prefer the bar across the street for burgers and fries.  You have to dodge the day drinkers but pretty good burger the last time I was in there. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4880 on: October 23, 2014, 10:13:59 AM »
We have two taps at work, one is for filtered water and one is regular tap water.  When the filter hasn't been changed for a couple months the water only trickles out of it.  I saw a dude who was very slowly filling his water bottle from the filter, went up and filled my water bottle up from the regular tap and went back to my desk.

Before I left he mentioned how shocking it was that I would drink clean tap water.  With his bottle 1/3 full.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4881 on: October 23, 2014, 10:18:46 AM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

Well i like my boss, but even if I didn't - free red robin lunch!  Maybe i'm just cheap, but I would gladly sit through lunch with a person I disliked for a free lunch like that.

That red robin is(I'm guessing) less than a half mile from my office.  I prefer the bar across the street for burgers and fries.  You have to dodge the day drinkers but pretty good burger the last time I was in there.

You talking about Augies? I went there once, but it was like 10 years ago.  Don't remember the food, but I never bothered to go back (but then again I rarely go to any bars).   Boss man was paying though so it was his choice.  He's got a thing for a few different restaurants, red robin being one of them (he also loves olive garden and pappa vinos). 


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4882 on: October 23, 2014, 10:35:46 AM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

Well i like my boss, but even if I didn't - free red robin lunch!  Maybe i'm just cheap, but I would gladly sit through lunch with a person I disliked for a free lunch like that.

That red robin is(I'm guessing) less than a half mile from my office.  I prefer the bar across the street for burgers and fries.  You have to dodge the day drinkers but pretty good burger the last time I was in there.

You talking about Augies? I went there once, but it was like 10 years ago.  Don't remember the food, but I never bothered to go back (but then again I rarely go to any bars).   Boss man was paying though so it was his choice.  He's got a thing for a few different restaurants, red robin being one of them (he also loves olive garden and pappa vinos).

Yep.  Just saying that's a better burger IMO.  I'm not a huge fan of the dirty bird.  Over priced and under delivered every time I have been.  You might be able to steer him there if he's in to good burgers.  Although, there is quite a few places within a few minute drive with better burgers than both those places. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4883 on: October 23, 2014, 10:41:11 AM »
We have two taps at work, one is for filtered water and one is regular tap water.  When the filter hasn't been changed for a couple months the water only trickles out of it.  I saw a dude who was very slowly filling his water bottle from the filter, went up and filled my water bottle up from the regular tap and went back to my desk.

Before I left he mentioned how shocking it was that I would drink clean tap water.  With his bottle 1/3 full.

Wow. I would not have the patience to wait either, but I'm not very particular about my water either. I drink too much of it to bother being fussy about it. It's all good to me.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4884 on: October 23, 2014, 10:47:38 AM »
We have two taps at work, one is for filtered water and one is regular tap water.  When the filter hasn't been changed for a couple months the water only trickles out of it.  I saw a dude who was very slowly filling his water bottle from the filter, went up and filled my water bottle up from the regular tap and went back to my desk.

Before I left he mentioned how shocking it was that I would drink clean tap water.  With his bottle 1/3 full.
Ha!  I'm more skeeved out by what can grow in a filter I don't have control over (like at work).  I don't know that this is rational, given how little control I have over the tap water system, but that's my psyche.

We have a fridge with an in-door water/ice dispenser.  There is a sign on the freezer door that says "Please do not take ice directly from the tray, use ice dispenser ONLY".  Every morning, this guy opens the freezer and rubs his hands all over the ice as he fills his cup.  What's weird is he only does this in the pre-work time (We're both in the office 15-20 minutes before most).  When everyone else is here, he uses the dispenser.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4885 on: October 23, 2014, 10:50:21 AM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4886 on: October 23, 2014, 10:55:25 AM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

Well i like my boss, but even if I didn't - free red robin lunch!  Maybe i'm just cheap, but I would gladly sit through lunch with a person I disliked for a free lunch like that.

That red robin is(I'm guessing) less than a half mile from my office.  I prefer the bar across the street for burgers and fries.  You have to dodge the day drinkers but pretty good burger the last time I was in there.

You talking about Augies? I went there once, but it was like 10 years ago.  Don't remember the food, but I never bothered to go back (but then again I rarely go to any bars).   Boss man was paying though so it was his choice.  He's got a thing for a few different restaurants, red robin being one of them (he also loves olive garden and pappa vinos).

Augies is clearly an old strip club. The seating in there cracks me up. Have not been there in a long time but their food used to be horrible.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4887 on: October 23, 2014, 10:58:41 AM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...

Pretty decent.  It's both wet, and non-toxic.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4888 on: October 23, 2014, 11:04:59 AM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...

Pretty decent.  It's both wet, and non-toxic.

That's good! I prefer my water to be wet :-)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4889 on: October 23, 2014, 11:14:07 AM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...

Pretty decent.  It's both wet, and non-toxic.

Haha, 2 things that are pretty important when it comes to water.

I've never had any major health problems and I grew up drinking this water.  Sometimes I'll watch a documentary (Last Call at the Oasis, thanks for the nightmares) and get freaked out, but there is so much in the world to be freaked out by, that I try not to worry.  It doesn't catch on fire, so I count myself lucky for that.
Edit to add:  I'm in corn country, so I'm pretty sure I've got some -cides in me, whatever is sprayed on the crops that washes in to the water.  I've looked it up, and we're tested regularly.  Not that I have much faith in what someone else decides is a "safe" ppm, but we're in that range.  Crap, now I'm worrying again...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4890 on: October 23, 2014, 11:26:11 AM »
At my Dh's work, his mother, father, brother and sister in law all work there. They are next door neighbors and they drive 4 vehicles into work, everyday.

They also have a little place up on a lake about45min from their houses they also drive 4 to 5 cars up there, including the teenager that now drives.

We just marvel at the sadness.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4891 on: October 23, 2014, 12:18:46 PM »
At my Dh's work, his mother, father, brother and sister in law all work there. They are next door neighbors and they drive 4 vehicles into work, everyday.

They also have a little place up on a lake about45min from their houses they also drive 4 to 5 cars up there, including the teenager that now drives.

We just marvel at the sadness.

Wow, just....Wow.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4892 on: October 23, 2014, 12:18:59 PM »
We have two taps at work, one is for filtered water and one is regular tap water.  When the filter hasn't been changed for a couple months the water only trickles out of it.  I saw a dude who was very slowly filling his water bottle from the filter, went up and filled my water bottle up from the regular tap and went back to my desk.

Before I left he mentioned how shocking it was that I would drink clean tap water.  With his bottle 1/3 full.
Ha!  I'm more skeeved out by what can grow in a filter I don't have control over (like at work).  I don't know that this is rational, given how little control I have over the tap water system, but that's my psyche.

We have a fridge with an in-door water/ice dispenser.  There is a sign on the freezer door that says "Please do not take ice directly from the tray, use ice dispenser ONLY".  Every morning, this guy opens the freezer and rubs his hands all over the ice as he fills his cup.  What's weird is he only does this in the pre-work time (We're both in the office 15-20 minutes before most).  When everyone else is here, he uses the dispenser.

I was thinking "doesn't the filter slowing down imply that it's actually removing a lot from the water?" and then I read your comment about things "growing" in the filter.  Ew (although I don't think it's more likely than something growing in any other part of the water system).

Anyways.... GuitarStv do you work where I work?  I could be that guy!  Sometimes it takes me a full minute to fill my bottle when the filter slows down, but I still don't use the tap.  However, my reason is more because I like chilled water than filtering.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4893 on: October 23, 2014, 12:48:52 PM »
Who passes up a free red robin lunch with the boss...and then goes out and spends $10 to go to a different restaurant?!?! It boggles my mind!

Depends on how well they like the boss I guess. Before my frugal days I probably would have purchased my own lunch in order to not have to spend my free time with the boss. Now I bring my lunch to work and have a much better boss.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4894 on: October 23, 2014, 01:01:43 PM »


I was thinking "doesn't the filter slowing down imply that it's actually removing a lot from the water?" and then I read your comment about things "growing" in the filter.  Ew (although I don't think it's more likely than something growing in any other part of the water system).

Anyways.... GuitarStv do you work where I work?  I could be that guy!  Sometimes it takes me a full minute to fill my bottle when the filter slows down, but I still don't use the tap.  However, my reason is more because I like chilled water than filtering.

It IS more likely than anywhere is the water system, actually.  The filter is a choke point for all the different things you're removing from the water; as the filter clogs, more and more of the contaminants build up and will eventually start replicating (depending on what you're removing).  Also, even though flow to you is reduced, you may be having breakthrough of the filter effectively supersaturating what you're drinking with what you're trying to remove.  There is a reason filters are on a replacement schedule.  While much of that schedule is create revenue, no filter should ever be used without replacement, regeneration, or cleaning, depending on the kind of filter.

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« Reply #4895 on: October 23, 2014, 01:50:52 PM »
From Cinder . . .

It reminds me of people who buy really fancy, new cars, and never drive them because they want them to stay nice....
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Oh yeah.  I've known bosses in the past life that did that while making fun of the rest of us driving American made beater bombs.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4896 on: October 23, 2014, 09:46:44 PM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...
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« Reply #4897 on: October 23, 2014, 10:53:04 PM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...
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« Reply #4898 on: October 24, 2014, 05:40:51 AM »
From Cinder . . .

It reminds me of people who buy really fancy, new cars, and never drive them because they want them to stay nice....

Oh yeah.  I've known bosses in the past life that did that while making fun of the rest of us driving American made beater bombs.

If it's paid for and it moves - that's all most of us need.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4899 on: October 24, 2014, 06:44:57 AM »
How decent is your tap water? Our tap water is absolutely filthy, and so we got a water cooler a few years ago. I don't mind drinking tap so long as I feel that it is drinkable...
Where do you live?

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It's crazy how much we take it for granted here in the US. Work went to a stand still when our filter was blocked. Tap water tastes a little funky (metallic taste) but seriously, the water in other places (like when I visited Thailand) isn't drinkable! You have to use water bottles all the time. We use water bottles here because we've been marketed to so well and have so much excess. Yucko.
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