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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4250 on: September 16, 2014, 02:12:05 PM »
A week or so ago few of us including myself were"promoted" to the next work level. Nothing consequential except a slight salary increase (ca +300$ net per month). I was laughing with one of the others affected about it and he said yeah it's peanuts but still half a payment for the new car he bought few weeks earlier. Many of my co-workers are spending 500-600 $/month in gas alone. To be honest they don't have a good alternative, but still…

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« Reply #4251 on: September 16, 2014, 03:29:03 PM »
I often cycle to Germany.

If that statement in itself isn't amazing, I don't know what is. Props to you!

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« Reply #4252 on: September 16, 2014, 04:25:55 PM »
In the Detroit area it's not uncommon for people to live in a different city, state and COUNTRY.  How people are willing to deal with an international border crossing everyday is beyond me.

They have special fast-pass lanes for people who make the border crossing very often. It turns a delay into a slight annoyance.

With some planning, you could drive from Denmark through Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Austria, Italy, and Slovenia in one day. That makes 11. I don't know European geography that well so I assume you could do quite a bit more than 11 in a single day.

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« Reply #4253 on: September 16, 2014, 04:57:04 PM »
With some planning, you could drive from Denmark through Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Austria, Italy, and Slovenia in one day. That makes 11. I don't know European geography that well so I assume you could do quite a bit more than 11 in a single day.

Just for fun I put that route in Google maps. Starting in Padborg, Denmark (border town with Germany) you could do all that and end up in Croatia in about 22 h. If you push it maybe you can get into Bosnia as well before your allotted 24 h are over. I bet someone has chased a Guinness record of that sort.

Of course calculating like this you can drive from Vancouver to Tijuana in one day as well.

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« Reply #4254 on: September 16, 2014, 05:20:21 PM »
With some planning, you could drive from Denmark through Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Austria, Italy, and Slovenia in one day. That makes 11. I don't know European geography that well so I assume you could do quite a bit more than 11 in a single day.

Just for fun I put that route in Google maps. Starting in Padborg, Denmark (border town with Germany) you could do all that and end up in Croatia in about 22 h. If you push it maybe you can get into Bosnia as well before your allotted 24 h are over. I bet someone has chased a Guinness record of that sort.

Of course calculating like this you can drive from Vancouver to Tijuana in one day as well.

With a quick search I found http://www.18in24.co.uk/, which mentions that 17 countries in 24 hours is the current record (yes, in Europe). Not sure if they made 18...

EDIT: appears they did
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« Reply #4255 on: September 16, 2014, 05:49:42 PM »
Just for fun I put that route in Google maps. Starting in Padborg, Denmark (border town with Germany) you could do all that and end up in Croatia in about 22 h. If you push it maybe you can get into Bosnia as well before your allotted 24 h are over. I bet someone has chased a Guinness record of that sort.

Of course calculating like this you can drive from Vancouver to Tijuana in one day as well.

You might be sarcastic, but I've done about 21.5 hours straight before. It's really not that bad. That was Anchorage to Seattle in two days, with an 18-hour then 21-ish-hour drive with about five hours of sleep, and I would have went farther if I wasn't meeting someone in Seattle. Though I must admit, the 1425 or so miles would be a new day record for me. I'm at 1250, admittedly through mountains and such, no interstates, and my speed was often limited by the road and my car's ability to corner more than anything else.

The only issue with driving from Vancouver to Tijuana in one day is that you're taking I-5 the whole way, instead of 101-then-1, so you're really missing out on the beautiful pacific coastline. Now, if you go cross-country on I-80, it's been done non-stop with a single driver, though even non-stop with two drivers like my friends did is brutal, so I can't imagine being awake and in an acceptable driving condition for two days straight. I know I start to hallucinate after being awake for three, and in pretty bad shape after two...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4256 on: September 16, 2014, 06:11:53 PM »

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« Reply #4257 on: September 16, 2014, 06:36:28 PM »
Easterners! Out in the west that would be much harder...



Unless you are crossing into California, in which case you might have to stop for agricultural inspection, and at certain points in the Southwest you might have to answer immigration questions..


You might be asked immigration questions, but you are not required to answer them.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4258 on: September 17, 2014, 12:25:15 AM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].

I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!

Depends a bit on the town. There are some areas where it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. For example, you could live in Beaverton and work in Portland (Oregon) and your commute could easily be under 10 miles (20-25 minutes).

haha! This is me! Except I live in portland and commute to beaverton. 25 mins.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4259 on: September 17, 2014, 07:14:35 AM »
Driving through Europe you say?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4260 on: September 17, 2014, 07:23:27 AM »
Easterners! Out in the west that would be much harder...



Unless you are crossing into California, in which case you might have to stop for agricultural inspection, and at certain points in the Southwest you might have to answer immigration questions..


You might be asked immigration questions, but you are not required to answer them.
If you don't answer them you get your car searched.  I lived in NM for 14 years and passed through their checkpoint between El Paso and Carlsbad a few times each year.  Nice people, but consider answering their questions nicely.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4261 on: September 17, 2014, 08:22:12 AM »
I often cycle to Germany. Sometimes for exercise, sometimes for shopping (much cheaper). Takes about 20 min from my place

I'm about the same distance from Canada -- I'll occasionally bike there if I have to run errands on the other side of the border. Pedestrians and bicycles are handled separately from automobiles or trucks, so I can cross the border in a few minutes rather than waiting for a half-hour or more in a car.

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« Reply #4262 on: September 17, 2014, 08:36:37 AM »
You might be asked immigration questions, but you are not required to answer them.
If you don't answer them you get your car searched.  I lived in NM for 14 years and passed through their checkpoint between El Paso and Carlsbad a few times each year.  Nice people, but consider answering their questions nicely.

Besides, the questions are typically really fast. Where are you coming from? Where are you going? Are you a US citizen? Ok, have a nice day.

Then again, last time I was in Arizona it went from 10 questions on Monday down to 1 (are you a US citizen) on Friday. They weren't even the same border patrol guards each day...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4263 on: September 17, 2014, 09:02:38 AM »

A friend of mine saying "That bump for Major pay wasn't as big as you would think" as we got into his fully loaded 2014 Lincoln Navigator.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4264 on: September 17, 2014, 09:08:42 AM »
I asked my boss to look more into our SIMPLE IRA set up, since I found out there are two different ways it could be set up and he doesn't know which one it is.  He wanted to know why I needed to know, so I explained that one allowed more choice and the other locked you into the company that our workplace makes us use (American Funds) which I'm not very happy with.  If I have options, I would like to look into them.  He said, "well, you know the company matches 3%, right? That is free money... why are you worried about loosing free money?"  I honestly didn't know how to answer that... I ended up saying "Look, I'm young and little tweeks at my age could really pay out for me down the road."   He just shook his head and told me that the stock market is about to crash and I should get out while I can.  I told him I would probably just invest more of my paycheck if it crashed.  He shook his head and gave me the "you poor thing.. you just don't understand how this world works" look.  It made me sad.  I guess he won't be getting me the information I wanted about our SIMPLE IRA, since it doesn't matter anyway. :-/

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4265 on: September 17, 2014, 12:20:50 PM »
I asked my boss to look more into our SIMPLE IRA set up, since I found out there are two different ways it could be set up and he doesn't know which one it is.  He wanted to know why I needed to know, so I explained that one allowed more choice and the other locked you into the company that our workplace makes us use (American Funds) which I'm not very happy with.  If I have options, I would like to look into them.  He said, "well, you know the company matches 3%, right? That is free money... why are you worried about loosing free money?"  I honestly didn't know how to answer that... I ended up saying "Look, I'm young and little tweeks at my age could really pay out for me down the road."   He just shook his head and told me that the stock market is about to crash and I should get out while I can.  I told him I would probably just invest more of my paycheck if it crashed.  He shook his head and gave me the "you poor thing.. you just don't understand how this world works" look.  It made me sad.  I guess he won't be getting me the information I wanted about our SIMPLE IRA, since it doesn't matter anyway. :-/

What a jackass. Tell him he shouldn't let his PERSONAL OPINIONS get in the way of YOUR CHOICES.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4266 on: September 17, 2014, 12:28:05 PM »
I asked my boss to look more into our SIMPLE IRA set up, since I found out there are two different ways it could be set up and he doesn't know which one it is.  He wanted to know why I needed to know, so I explained that one allowed more choice and the other locked you into the company that our workplace makes us use (American Funds) which I'm not very happy with.  If I have options, I would like to look into them.  He said, "well, you know the company matches 3%, right? That is free money... why are you worried about loosing free money?"  I honestly didn't know how to answer that... I ended up saying "Look, I'm young and little tweeks at my age could really pay out for me down the road."   He just shook his head and told me that the stock market is about to crash and I should get out while I can.  I told him I would probably just invest more of my paycheck if it crashed.  He shook his head and gave me the "you poor thing.. you just don't understand how this world works" look.  It made me sad.  I guess he won't be getting me the information I wanted about our SIMPLE IRA, since it doesn't matter anyway. :-/

This is awful!

My old boss (who I otherwise really liked) used to digress about how young people these days "don't know how to spend money". He said when he could easily go out on the town and spend several hundred when he was young, whereas people my age just don't "know how to do that anymore". Apparently he viewed this as a big problem!

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« Reply #4267 on: September 17, 2014, 12:44:42 PM »
Besides, the questions are typically really fast. Where are you coming from? Where are you going? Are you a US citizen? Ok, have a nice day.

Then again, last time I was in Arizona it went from 10 questions on Monday down to 1 (are you a US citizen) on Friday. They weren't even the same border patrol guards each day...

I was at a checkpoint in El Paso. Got into the lane with the fewest cars - just one - but curse my rotten luck, it takes them like five minutes to get through, while everyone else seems to whizz past me. Damn, wrong lane. Okay, agent is a hardass, so I grab my license, my passport (was within reach, since I was moving)... open the window, obviously, and wait.

Finally it's my turn. As I begin to pull up, he just shouts at me as he walks from the booth, maybe 20 feet away, "Citizen?" I nod. He shouts, "Alright!" and waves me on.

So that's my experience with the illegal immigration checkpoint. Apparently white boy here doesn't get hassled too much, even with four months' worth of beard.

(Now ask me about the US/Canada crossing, that'll be a story of hasslin'.)

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« Reply #4268 on: September 17, 2014, 01:41:03 PM »
I just crossed over the US/Canadian border each way in Niagara, and both were honestly a breeze (we're US citizens). At the border into Canada, we were asked where we were from, what were we doing, did we already have reservations, and how long we were staying. He asked the questions at a rapidfire pace (I assume to see if we would trip up - we were simply going on vacation). Coming back into the States I assumed it would be a lot more difficult, but it was quicker! He studied our passports a bit closer than coming into Canada and asked us what our citizenship was, and that was it! We were in a heavy tourist area, and we were tourists, so they get people like us a lot, but I was honestly surprised how easy it was both ways.

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« Reply #4269 on: September 17, 2014, 02:10:44 PM »
I've crossed lot's of borders including to US many times and tt has never taken me more than 1-2 min not counting waiting in the line. As for lines usually also not too bad, albeit once we had the "pleasure" of waiting for 1 1/2 h in a sleepy airport in Muscat.

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« Reply #4270 on: September 17, 2014, 02:11:58 PM »
I asked my boss to look more into our SIMPLE IRA set up, since I found out there are two different ways it could be set up and he doesn't know which one it is.  He wanted to know why I needed to know, so I explained that one allowed more choice and the other locked you into the company that our workplace makes us use (American Funds) which I'm not very happy with.  If I have options, I would like to look into them.  He said, "well, you know the company matches 3%, right? That is free money... why are you worried about loosing free money?"  I honestly didn't know how to answer that... I ended up saying "Look, I'm young and little tweeks at my age could really pay out for me down the road."   He just shook his head and told me that the stock market is about to crash and I should get out while I can.  I told him I would probably just invest more of my paycheck if it crashed.  He shook his head and gave me the "you poor thing.. you just don't understand how this world works" look.  It made me sad.  I guess he won't be getting me the information I wanted about our SIMPLE IRA, since it doesn't matter anyway. :-/

What a jackass. Tell him he shouldn't let his PERSONAL OPINIONS get in the way of YOUR CHOICES.

I know... He is very opinionated, which normally is just entertaining to me, but in this instance, he is getting in my way.  He doesn't even know who set up the account or anything.  I called our accountant and it was set up well before her time and not through her company.  I feel like there has to be a way for me to find this out on my own somehow.  I think he is just bitter because he is 60 and can't quit.  I guess if he can't quit by now, he doesn't want future-me to be able to quit either?  :)  I will find a way...

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« Reply #4271 on: September 17, 2014, 02:22:35 PM »
I just crossed over the US/Canadian border each way in Niagara, and both were honestly a breeze (we're US citizens). At the border into Canada, we were asked where we were from, what were we doing, did we already have reservations, and how long we were staying. He asked the questions at a rapidfire pace (I assume to see if we would trip up - we were simply going on vacation). Coming back into the States I assumed it would be a lot more difficult, but it was quicker! He studied our passports a bit closer than coming into Canada and asked us what our citizenship was, and that was it! We were in a heavy tourist area, and we were tourists, so they get people like us a lot, but I was honestly surprised how easy it was both ways.

You lucked out.  A few years ago we drove from Seattle to Vancouver and it took over an hour just to get to the booth each way, although the questioning was quick.  I did lock my passport in the trunk going back into the States, which earned me a polite Canadian rebuke.  :D
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4272 on: September 17, 2014, 03:06:01 PM »
I just crossed over the US/Canadian border each way in Niagara, and both were honestly a breeze (we're US citizens). At the border into Canada, we were asked where we were from, what were we doing, did we already have reservations, and how long we were staying. He asked the questions at a rapidfire pace (I assume to see if we would trip up - we were simply going on vacation). Coming back into the States I assumed it would be a lot more difficult, but it was quicker! He studied our passports a bit closer than coming into Canada and asked us what our citizenship was, and that was it! We were in a heavy tourist area, and we were tourists, so they get people like us a lot, but I was honestly surprised how easy it was both ways.

You lucked out.  A few years ago we drove from Seattle to Vancouver and it took over an hour just to get to the booth each way, although the questioning was quick.  I did lock my passport in the trunk going back into the States, which earned me a polite Canadian rebuke.  :D

I credit good luck and planning on our avoidance of lines. We got to the border heading into Canada mid afternoon on a Saturday (assuming most people would get there Friday night/early Saturday morning) and crossed back into the States late morning on Monday. There was only one car ahead of us getting into Canada and we zipped right up to the window getting into the States.

My coworker told me a horror story of her return to the States decades ago from Canada (she didn't specify from exactly where). She was sick and drinking Pepto Bismol in the car, and when the spotted that, they got her and her husband out of the car and tore it apart. The saddest part, she said, was watching them carefully pour out her PB to see if she had anything hiding under there. They put the seats back into her car at least, but the rest of the car was trashed. Whoops.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4273 on: September 17, 2014, 04:39:53 PM »
CW. We are moving to [names town 10 miles farther away than her current town].
I can't believe people live in a different TOWN to which they work!!
I lived in a different STATE than the one I worked in.  Crossed several city limits and a state line on my 14 mile, 30 minute commute.

Easterners! Out in the west that would be much harder...

I was stationed in Georgia for training years back and we just came back from a 4-day weekend.  Someone commented how they drove north for 10 hours and crossed 6 states (like it was a huge deal).  I did the math and replied "Starting from the same latitude in California, I'd still be in California."  I liked to give them a lot of crap about being from a much bigger state.  I live in WA now and regularly drive 12 hours south to visit home on long weekends and vacations.
 
There are agriculture checkpoints just inside the CA border coming from Oregon, Nevada, and the Mexico border. There might be one between AZ and CA. I haven't driven that route in years.

I have driven for 6 hours and still been stuck in Houston traffic.
Of course I have driven for 12 hours and still been stuck in LA traffic also (closure on the I-5).
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Retirement plan = Wyoming

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« Reply #4274 on: September 17, 2014, 05:16:20 PM »
Wyoming is fucking beautiful. Cody is an incredible location. I wonder what houses there cost. Hmm, quite a few in the 100-150-200-250 ranges.

If you really want no traffic and a beautiful landscape, most of the north-mid-west and pacific-north-west states are good. Even CA, as long as you're away from a metro area and closer to some mountains. WA, OR, MT, ND, SD, MN, WY, CO, UT, all a pleasure. Bring chains for your tires unless you live within an hour, sometimes two, of the pacific.

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« Reply #4275 on: September 19, 2014, 12:00:41 PM »
iPhone 6 release day, and a bunch of my coworkers are waiting in hour+ lines to get theirs, just seems crazy to me. Thats one of the more great advantages of having a prepaid monthly plan - most people are incentivized to upgrade every 2 years to "get the most" out of their plan (so they can rush back into another 2 yr contract), while I'm in no hurry. I'm sure I'll upgrade my 5 to a 6 eventually, but my phone works pretty well right now so I can just wait until whenever, maybe even waiting until next year's model.

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« Reply #4276 on: September 19, 2014, 12:11:33 PM »
Apparently one of the first people to get their iPhone 6 in Australia promptly dropped it. On national TV... (I only read the headline, but it made me snicker.)

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« Reply #4277 on: September 19, 2014, 01:01:29 PM »
Wyoming is fucking beautiful. Cody is an incredible location. I wonder what houses there cost. Hmm, quite a few in the 100-150-200-250 ranges.

If you really want no traffic and a beautiful landscape, most of the north-mid-west and pacific-north-west states are good. Even CA, as long as you're away from a metro area and closer to some mountains. WA, OR, MT, ND, SD, MN, WY, CO, UT, all a pleasure. Bring chains for your tires unless you live within an hour, sometimes two, of the pacific.

Avoid the Puget Sound if you hate traffic. Traffic is hell around here. But it is gorgeous, for absolute sure.
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« Reply #4278 on: September 19, 2014, 01:33:19 PM »
Wyoming is fucking beautiful. Cody is an incredible location. I wonder what houses there cost. Hmm, quite a few in the 100-150-200-250 ranges.

If you really want no traffic and a beautiful landscape, most of the north-mid-west and pacific-north-west states are good. Even CA, as long as you're away from a metro area and closer to some mountains. WA, OR, MT, ND, SD, MN, WY, CO, UT, all a pleasure. Bring chains for your tires unless you live within an hour, sometimes two, of the pacific.

Avoid the Puget Sound if you hate traffic. Traffic is hell around here. But it is gorgeous, for absolute sure.

Move to Long Island. No traffic here. Ever! And no one tailgates either. And when you want to leave Long Island, getting through NYC is a breeze!

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« Reply #4279 on: September 19, 2014, 04:16:27 PM »
Wyoming is fucking beautiful. Cody is an incredible location. I wonder what houses there cost. Hmm, quite a few in the 100-150-200-250 ranges.

If you really want no traffic and a beautiful landscape, most of the north-mid-west and pacific-north-west states are good. Even CA, as long as you're away from a metro area and closer to some mountains. WA, OR, MT, ND, SD, MN, WY, CO, UT, all a pleasure. Bring chains for your tires unless you live within an hour, sometimes two, of the pacific.

Avoid the Puget Sound if you hate traffic. Traffic is hell around here. But it is gorgeous, for absolute sure.

That's where I live. No traffic for me - I live close to work and ride my bike most days.

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« Reply #4280 on: September 19, 2014, 05:12:02 PM »
iPhone 6 release day, and a bunch of my coworkers are waiting in hour+ lines to get theirs, just seems crazy to me. Thats one of the more great advantages of having a prepaid monthly plan - most people are incentivized to upgrade every 2 years to "get the most" out of their plan (so they can rush back into another 2 yr contract), while I'm in no hurry. I'm sure I'll upgrade my 5 to a 6 eventually, but my phone works pretty well right now so I can just wait until whenever, maybe even waiting until next year's model.

For a guy at work he rocked up at 5am and was 120th in line... he finally got his at around 11:45am... Apparently last year he rocked up at 5am and was 19th in line, and at work by 9am (yes he upgrades each time there is a new one).  Another guy got his elsewhere on a plan rocked up to the store at 8am and was in around 10am.

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« Reply #4281 on: September 19, 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
Wyoming is fucking beautiful. Cody is an incredible location. I wonder what houses there cost. Hmm, quite a few in the 100-150-200-250 ranges.

If you really want no traffic and a beautiful landscape, most of the north-mid-west and pacific-north-west states are good. Even CA, as long as you're away from a metro area and closer to some mountains. WA, OR, MT, ND, SD, MN, WY, CO, UT, all a pleasure. Bring chains for your tires unless you live within an hour, sometimes two, of the pacific.

Avoid the Puget Sound if you hate traffic. Traffic is hell around here. But it is gorgeous, for absolute sure.

Of course, the caveat is that if you live in a metropolitan area of one of these states there will be traffic.

The difference is, for example - Massachusetts is probably 90% not metropolitan area, but probably 50% of it has traffic. Connecticut is much the same; for any given road, if you're not in a city you're likely in suburbia and often dense suburbia. On the other hand, take OR; if you select at random a road not near a city, you're probably not seeing a lot of cars. Or WA, same thing, the vast majority of the state (in terms of area) does not have much traffic.

Besides, you get more beauty as you get farther from town. So it works out fine.

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« Reply #4282 on: September 19, 2014, 06:25:58 PM »
I'm sure I'll upgrade my 5 to a 6 eventually, but my phone works pretty well right now so I can just wait until whenever, maybe even waiting until next year's model.

I got my ex's old iPhone 3GS when we started dating (he didn't want it back when we broke up :P) after about a year and a half's use by him, and every time there's a fancy new phone (regardless of who's making it) I want to upgrade, but can't convince myself to spend the money. Unusually for planned-obsolescence obsessed phone engineers, it's lasted five years and counting!

I'm a software engineering student and I love playing with gadgets and new technology, but this phone I think I'll keep using until it literally stops working. Sure, it crashes occasionally and I can't get the latest software, but it's got enough to keep me going for a while yet. That way when I do upgrade, it'll be like angels singing when I turn on the new one :P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4283 on: September 19, 2014, 06:51:21 PM »
In Europe we did a road trip and hit 5 countries in one day with a long lunch stop.  Barely had a sign at a few of the crossings, could see people easily going back and forth daily.

I often cycle to Germany. Sometimes for exercise, sometimes for shopping (much cheaper). Takes about 20 min from my place.

To hit 5 countries you have to plan well. Something like France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg and Germany would be possible. To go from one corner of EU to the other takes about as long as from NYC to LA.

When I was in Basel, I went to the Fondation Beyeler (in Switzerland), walked to Weil-am-Rhein, Germany, then walked to Huningue, France, and then back to Basel for the pure novelty of it.  Such a funny thing for Americans (I'm 8 hours driving with no traffic from the Mexican border).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4284 on: September 20, 2014, 08:40:44 PM »

Sure, it crashes occasionally and I can't get the latest software, but it's got enough to keep me going for a while yet. That way when I do upgrade, it'll be like angels singing when I turn on the new one :P

I bought a new 3GS just after the 4 came out. I still have it despite the crashing and general slowness it's still a magic sci-fi device.

That said, my next phone will be one of the $19 ones from the supermarket. I no longer use it enough to need a smart phone.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4285 on: September 20, 2014, 09:23:08 PM »
Conversation with my co-workers:

Female CW: Hey, Metta! Come over here and dream with us!

Me: "Always happy to dream a bit. What are we dreaming about? Is food involved?"

Female CW: "We're dreaming what we will do when we win the lottery."

Male CW: "Metta doesn't like the lottery. She won't play and she won't dream."

<Male CW has heard me ask several times why people who know math are playing the lottery. Each person adds $20 to the office lottery pool and then the designated person takes the money and buys a bunch of lottery tickets. I find this mystifying. Though I've been told that it is a form of office bonding, so lately I've been trying to be less negative.>

Me: "It's ok if you want to play the lottery as long as you're fully funding your 401K and saving money."

Female CW: "You can't get a million dollars by saving money in your 401K. The lottery is a better investment."

Since my husband and I recently hit a million by saving money, I was rendered speechless and ran off saying, "Oh, I need to take care of something on my server. Dream on!"

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4286 on: September 20, 2014, 11:37:35 PM »
Easterners! Out in the west that would be much harder...



Unless you are crossing into California, in which case you might have to stop for agricultural inspection, and at certain points in the Southwest you might have to answer immigration questions..


You might be asked immigration questions, but you are not required to answer them.
If you don't answer them you get your car searched.  I lived in NM for 14 years and passed through their checkpoint between El Paso and Carlsbad a few times each year.  Nice people, but consider answering their questions nicely.
I agree. My land lady worked as a pharmacist in Carlsbad. Told many stories of her brutal commute from Las Cruces to Carlsbad everyday. The route is amazing for the absence of humanity in between El Paso and Carlsbad.
And from Las Cruces, one hits a border checkpoint whether you go east, west or north. Always had to carry my passport and VISA papers. It pays to be nice to the guys. Few times when I forgot to carry papers, it resulted in long waiting as they had to cross-check the name in their databases

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4287 on: September 21, 2014, 06:10:46 AM »


Me: "It's ok if you want to play the lottery as long as you're fully funding your 401K and saving money."

Female CW: "You can't get a million dollars by saving money in your 401K. The lottery is a better investment."

Since my husband and I recently hit a million by saving money, I was rendered speechless and ran off saying, "Oh, I need to take care of something on my server. Dream on!"

Sometimes I too run, but sometimes I feel an obligation to say that "I know people my age who have become millionaires investing but none through the lottery.  It really is doable."   It just seems so wrong to let the misconception go unchallenged at times!

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« Reply #4288 on: September 21, 2014, 08:21:24 AM »
Lottery is an investment. If you say so...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4289 on: September 21, 2014, 08:47:13 AM »


Me: "It's ok if you want to play the lottery as long as you're fully funding your 401K and saving money."

Female CW: "You can't get a million dollars by saving money in your 401K. The lottery is a better investment."

Since my husband and I recently hit a million by saving money, I was rendered speechless and ran off saying, "Oh, I need to take care of something on my server. Dream on!"

Sometimes I too run, but sometimes I feel an obligation to say that "I know people my age who have become millionaires investing but none through the lottery.  It really is doable."   It just seems so wrong to let the misconception go unchallenged at times!

I had a professor say something similar in class and it ticked me off.  I pulled up kiplingers how to become a millionaire and raised my hand and showed it to the class.  I HATE when people who have influence use it badly.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4290 on: September 21, 2014, 10:47:30 AM »
I used to work with/be friends with this girl who was like alternate universe me except she made choices that were completely opposite to mine.  After a while of this, I found myself biting my tongue so hard I nearly chewed it off.  Sorry if this is a bit long, it was overheard throughout my 3+ years of working with her.

For starters, she dropped out of university with something like AUD$18,000 HECS (student loan) debt, so I used to hear her complain about how she was expected to pay for classes she had attended but not bothered to complete.  It was like clockwork, every tax time it was a constant wailing and gnashing of teeth.

She moved out of her parents house despite it being rent free and her being able to have as many friends/boyfriends as she liked over.  She made herself almost immediately unwelcome with her new housemates because she started complaining about people not doing the dishes or whatever on facebook and the housemates seeing it and saying 'hey we get that you're upset but could you please talk to us directly about this?'...  So she moved out into her own flat and found it really hard because we were barely making above the minimum wage, so rent was eating up something like 40-50% of her salary.

After that lease is up, she moves in with her boyfriend and she decides to take care of all the bills by putting it on a rewards credit card, her boyfriend forgets to pay her back for anything, then they break up and she's got a balance of $10,000 on a 20% CC.

Then there was her car.  Her parents gave her a fully functional 2-3 year old car they'd bought secondhand.  She would pay for routine services, but I used to hear how if there was a big problem she'd never have the money to pay for a repair, so her parents would bail her out.

Anyways, she pays off her credit card and now decides she's an adult who can do whatever she likes, and that the secondhand car her parents gifted her isn't good enough.  She wants a Mini, dammit!
So she sells the car her parents bought for her, and takes out a loan for a Mini that is older and has more kms on it than the car her parents gave her.  The new car now requires premium fuel, she said something about it costing $90 to fill it up.  Just when I thought things couldn't get worse for her, about a year after she bought it the car breaks down during one of the hottest days on record and it turns out she hasn't had the car serviced at all since she bought it because she didn't have the money, and now she certainly doesn't have the funds to get it fixed. The mini gets repaired (possibly courtesy of her parents), but she can't drive it because the tyres need replacing and she doesn't have the money to replace them (she said something about it costing $100 or more per tyre).  For a while she was paying down a loan on a car she couldn't even use.

Anyways, about a month or two after this she decides that she's going to buy her own place... in one of the hottest property markets in our state.  She scrapes up a minimal deposit with what sounded like a lot of assistance from the bank of mum and dad, and in what was a surprisingly smart move, bought a 2 bedroom house close to what was then our office.  However, she refused to entertain the idea of getting a housemate, even a FIFO worker, because she was a homeowner now, she wasn't going to share with some pleb.

She financed her washing machine and dryer on a 0% interest scheme and when her mother asked her if she could afford to pay it off in that time she apparently went beserk.  She also freaked out when she received a $700 strata fee, apparently not realising this is all a part of the joy of home ownership!

Oh, and mobile phones.  She always needed the latest, and it always had to be with the provider with the largest network coverage despite never leaving the metro area.

The last I heard (from an acquaintance) is that she's now doing 'internet work' involving 'video cameras' to make some extra money to pay the bills.  I honestly thought he was joking, but nope, apparently not, she is actually doing... something which may involve nakedness on camera for money.  Good for her for finding a revenue stream with some flexibility, though!

A few memorable quotes from her:
"I need to have two tv's in my house, coz otherwise it means you're failing at life"
"I drive everywhere because I'm afraid of public transport"
"Only losers cycle, coin"
On a Monday: "I've got about $20 to last me until Thursday [when we get paid]"
"Jeez, coin, CD's are so last century, why aren't you just getting a subscription to a streaming service?"  (she then looked at me like I'd grown two heads when I told her it was cheaper for me to just buy a CD once in a while instead of the recurring cost of streaming)

Conclusion:
After a while this all sort of became a bit of a sore point for me, because I admit I was a bit sour about how she had everything laid out on a platter for her by her parents and she was never capable of recognising that.  I honestly think this did affect our friendship, because she kept having to decline invitations out for things unless somebody else was paying - the reasons usually being related to being broke.  After a while I stopped inviting her out, because I realised material things like cars and shoes were always going to come before the people in her life.  It got too difficult for me to see 'ooh look at this consumer crap I've just bought' on social media only to be told that she didn't have the money to go out anywhere.

tl;dr friend makes succession of bad choices over a span of 3-4 years which ruins the relationship.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4291 on: September 21, 2014, 12:27:41 PM »
And me thinking that by now 0 tvs in the house is the "cool" number (I do have a projector, though)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4292 on: September 21, 2014, 02:04:30 PM »


Me: "It's ok if you want to play the lottery as long as you're fully funding your 401K and saving money."

Female CW: "You can't get a million dollars by saving money in your 401K. The lottery is a better investment."

Since my husband and I recently hit a million by saving money, I was rendered speechless and ran off saying, "Oh, I need to take care of something on my server. Dream on!"

Sometimes I too run, but sometimes I feel an obligation to say that "I know people my age who have become millionaires investing but none through the lottery.  It really is doable."   It just seems so wrong to let the misconception go unchallenged at times!

I have been scolded by my co-workers for ruining everyone's lottery fun with suggestions like that. So I'm taking the middle path for a while.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4293 on: September 21, 2014, 03:01:22 PM »
OK, here's one heard at work:

CW said: "I wish me and the wife get a kid soon, so I have a good excuse to buy a new, bigger car!".

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4294 on: September 21, 2014, 03:36:36 PM »
Don't have one yet, but a coworker recently decided to start day-trading.  I warned him that transaction costs will eat him alive, but he thinks (like everyone else) that he can beat the market.  Should be an interesting story in a few weeks.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4295 on: September 21, 2014, 06:11:33 PM »
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she was a homeowner now, she wasn't going to share with some pleb.

That there is pure gold.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4296 on: September 21, 2014, 06:20:53 PM »
And me thinking that by now 0 tvs in the house is the "cool" number (I do have a projector, though)
Ditto here.  We got rid of our (27" CRT) TV about three years ago.  After moving and not getting cable, we realized we never used the dang thing.  But a projector...well that's just fun!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4297 on: September 21, 2014, 10:09:07 PM »
I told a coworker that I am going to start working part time next month.   

The coworker said "wow, the company is getting a great deal-- they save money and all you end up with is time."

I don't think he gets that time is the point...


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4298 on: September 22, 2014, 06:43:48 AM »
I told a coworker that I am going to start working part time next month.   

The coworker said "wow, the company is getting a great deal-- they save money and all you end up with is time."

I don't think he gets that time is the point...


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #4299 on: September 22, 2014, 09:23:22 AM »
Coworker and her husband just bought their six-year-old (SIX YEAR OLD!) a $50 designer purse for her birthday. But it's okay! It was originally priced for $100, so they got a great deal!

Starting them young...