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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2550 on: May 01, 2014, 06:24:32 PM »
This one, I overheard at school from a friend who will not be named.

He was complaining about the costs of education and the interest rates on student loans. At the same time, the man spends, by his estimate, several hundred dollars a month on drinks at bars.

I'm not saying you shouldn't go to bars ever, but if he cut it down, he'd probably owe a lot less than he currently does. Like, a LOT less.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2551 on: May 01, 2014, 06:27:41 PM »
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CW2: "Oooh, what about a prado?"
CW1: "Nah, we won't need a prado until we have two kids".

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2552 on: May 01, 2014, 06:36:32 PM »
$12,000 a year private school fees.... for a 6 year old?????!!! And she has two kids.... in today's dollars she will spend at least $288K educating them (in reality actually a lot more as high school fees tend to run a lot higher than lower school fees)...
In comparison a house in the "best" school zone could be purchased for $600-$800K (i.e. $100-$300K more than an average house, with the advantage that the best school zones are close to work, the beach and public transit and have low crime so it would be a better place to live anyway)... I know where I'd be putting my money and it wouldn't be the private school.

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« Reply #2553 on: May 01, 2014, 06:48:32 PM »
$12,000 a year private school fees.... for a 6 year old?????!!! And she has two kids.... in today's dollars she will spend at least $288K educating them (in reality actually a lot more as high school fees tend to run a lot higher than lower school fees)...
In comparison a house in the "best" school zone could be purchased for $600-$800K (i.e. $100-$300K more than an average house, with the advantage that the best school zones are close to work, the beach and public transit and have low crime so it would be a better place to live anyway)... I know where I'd be putting my money and it wouldn't be the private school.

Haha that's my strategy if I decide I need my kids to be in a high performing school... move to a high performing suburb, put them in the local public school and enjoy all the benefits of living in that suburb.

Speaking of private schools, they've been a topic of discussion in the workplace lately and apparently high schools in Perth cost $10-15k for a Catholic school and $20-25k for Anglican, non-religious etc. Jeepers. I wonder how many kids would rather be sent to a public school and NOT have their parents in massive amounts of debt.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2554 on: May 02, 2014, 06:48:37 PM »

Today I was chatting with a (much older) coworker. 

She said, idly:  "Did you ever think about how much you would save, if, right away on your first job you actually saved money in your 401K?"

Me:  *long pause* "......Yes....."

Coworker:  "No, I mean seriously; like, not just up to the employer match, but to actually like, max it out to whatever the maximum is?" 

Me:  *longer pause* "......Yesss......"

In my head I was thinking, 'Aieeeeee!!  What, you think you have to stop saving money once you get to the maximum?  And you DON'T KNOW what the 401K limit is?' 

This woman is probably ~60, complains INCESSANTLY about working and the environment at our company,  and has no one in her life except her dog.  I've been (and still am) wondering what in the world she spends her money on that she isn't retired already...


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2555 on: May 03, 2014, 04:31:38 PM »
A co-worker bought a brand new car over the weekend. He got an FJ Cruiser, probably around $32k. He also got all of the "extended warranty" options. He will spend more in interest payments on his car than I paid for my last car.

The best part was some of the quotes:

"My wife and I alternate who gets a new car every 5 years, but I sure was liking not having a car payment. Oh well." (they separate finances I think)

"I really needed the 4 wheel drive. ... We don't really like camping or not having running water." (... so we wont really take this anywhere we would need 4 wheel drive...) "Maybe we'll get an camper trailer though, that would make sense."

CW: "We don't drive that much, but I sure am going to miss the gas mileage of what I had."
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Me: "Well, what are you doing with your old car" (maybe I want to buy it?)
CW: "Because we took such great care of it and only had 80k miles on it, the dealer gave me $3k for it as a trade in!" (this car is worth $7k easily on craigslist and probably $5000 at carmax)

Ouch. Then again, the fact that he was spending 32k on a new car means he probably wasn't thinking much about whether he was missing out on 4k by not pursuing that sale on his own. Still a shame, though.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2556 on: May 03, 2014, 09:40:26 PM »
Overheard outside of work:

I was at a marriage workshop thingy (it was pretty cool, and my fiancé liked it too!) with a bunch of other couples. In chatting with one of the women there, she decided to give me some advice: "Money is the root of all evil. All your fights will be about money. Cause if you think about it, when will you ever stop wanting to buy things?"

She was dead serious. I felt like a deer in the headlights, because 99% of the time I'm a minimalist and I don't care for travelling so I can really truly picture not wanting to buy things. I changed the subject somehow, but wow - I was shocked to see that people really feel that way. I wish I could rememeber her exact wording, but you get the idea.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2557 on: May 04, 2014, 10:22:50 AM »
The people on the $160 AT&T plans would consider the cheaper plans to have plenty of catches. Republic Wireless: you can't get an iPhone. Airvoice: the $10 plan will cut off service if you run down your balance. None of these MVNOs have roaming agreements with other carriers (to my knowledge). Some of these companies' websites and phone support leave much to be desired.

To us these sorts of things aren't a big deal, but other people are used to the cushiness of the Big 4 and arguing purely based on price won't get you anywhere. You first have to convince people that the things that differentiate the Big 4 from the cheap players don't have much value, then the alternatives will seem appealing.

And this is exactly why I'm so picky about which MVNOs I namecheck in the guide. Roaming agreements aren't that big a deal if you know what sort of coverage is actually available, but customer support and reasonable terms of service go a long way towards end users.

I would also say that Republic has far more catches than most people here realize as well. There is such a thing as caring too much about getting the cheapest monthly deal that you start entering into contracts that you probably shouldn't and ignore the very real added cost of being able to do business at that price in the first place.

I've had great luck with Ting. You can have almost any phone you want, roam on Verizon's network, and customer support has a no waiting and no computer systems policy (they pick up the phone).

We have also had great luck with Ting.  Our bill last month for 3 smart phones was $70!!!! (including usage by 16 year old!)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2558 on: May 04, 2014, 10:41:23 AM »
Overheard outside of work:

I was at a marriage workshop thingy (it was pretty cool, and my fiancé liked it too!) with a bunch of other couples. In chatting with one of the women there, she decided to give me some advice: "Money is the root of all evil. All your fights will be about money. Cause if you think about it, when will you ever stop wanting to buy things?"

She was dead serious. I felt like a deer in the headlights, because 99% of the time I'm a minimalist and I don't care for travelling so I can really truly picture not wanting to buy things. I changed the subject somehow, but wow - I was shocked to see that people really feel that way. I wish I could rememeber her exact wording, but you get the idea.

I feel sorry for couples who argue about money all the time.  Must be very stressful

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2559 on: May 04, 2014, 11:00:27 AM »
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I feel sorry for couples who argue about money all the time.  Must be very stressful

I feel sorry for couples who argue about ANYTHING all the time. To me, if you can't get along, and fight regularly, why are you together? It's a pretty big indicator of incompatibility.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2560 on: May 04, 2014, 03:17:57 PM »
I don't think fighting is the problem.  It's fighting and then holding long grudges and resentment. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2561 on: May 04, 2014, 03:53:24 PM »

Today I was chatting with a (much older) coworker. 

She said, idly:  "Did you ever think about how much you would save, if, right away on your first job you actually saved money in your 401K?"

Me:  *long pause* "......Yes....."

Coworker:  "No, I mean seriously; like, not just up to the employer match, but to actually like, max it out to whatever the maximum is?" 

Me:  *longer pause* "......Yesss......"

In my head I was thinking, 'Aieeeeee!!  What, you think you have to stop saving money once you get to the maximum?  And you DON'T KNOW what the 401K limit is?' 

This woman is probably ~60, complains INCESSANTLY about working and the environment at our company,  and has no one in her life except her dog.  I've been (and still am) wondering what in the world she spends her money on that she isn't retired already...

I had a similar conversation with a coworker recently. I think she's mid 40s like me or maybe early 50s? She's unmarried and has a lot of cats, I've gathered. We were talking about potential layoffs at work. I mentioned that's what triggered me to downsize my house and look at cutting my expenses further. She then started thinking aloud and thought she should pay off some of her credit card debt. Then she said "I have the money to pay off the credit card debt, but then I'd be poor". I didn't know what to say after that...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2562 on: May 04, 2014, 04:38:12 PM »
On a call at work today with some people in the Northeast.  They were extremely happy they were now allowed to telecommute, especially the guy who was commuting 73 miles each way. 

I worked in that office for a few years and knew quite a few people who commuted in from the next state over (at least an hour away, sometimes 1.5 hours away).  They wanted a bigger house and lower property taxes.

I've spent almost my entire internship wondering why 2 coworkers drive 75 minutes every day. They do get paid half mileage, but still. 2.5 hours of the day lost on driving. They were moved to this office over 5 years ago.

They could live where I do and only drive 25 minutes and probably have an identical or lower housing cost, plus good schools for the kiddies.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2563 on: May 04, 2014, 05:10:03 PM »
I don't think fighting is the problem.  It's fighting and then holding long grudges and resentment.

Maybe it doesn't bother other people. For me, fighting a lot would mean we have pretty fundamental differences, which would make me wonder why I was with the person. I'm not a fighting sort of person AT ALL, so it would be very difficult to resolve issues with someone if that was how they dealt with conflicts.

Two people who both liked to fight would probably get along very well, come to think of it.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2564 on: May 04, 2014, 05:25:10 PM »
$12,000 a year private school fees.... for a 6 year old?????!!! And she has two kids.... in today's dollars she will spend at least $288K educating them (in reality actually a lot more as high school fees tend to run a lot higher than lower school fees)...
In comparison a house in the "best" school zone could be purchased for $600-$800K (i.e. $100-$300K more than an average house, with the advantage that the best school zones are close to work, the beach and public transit and have low crime so it would be a better place to live anyway)... I know where I'd be putting my money and it wouldn't be the private school.

Haha that's my strategy if I decide I need my kids to be in a high performing school... move to a high performing suburb, put them in the local public school and enjoy all the benefits of living in that suburb.

Speaking of private schools, they've been a topic of discussion in the workplace lately and apparently high schools in Perth cost $10-15k for a Catholic school and $20-25k for Anglican, non-religious etc. Jeepers. I wonder how many kids would rather be sent to a public school and NOT have their parents in massive amounts of debt.

Yup. I mean is it really going to make that much of a difference... when plenty of publics are in the top 20 (Shenton, Willeton and Mt Lawley all spring to mind) why would you? It's also not like said co worker will be sending her kid to a top 20 anyway... (Just a Catholic School). I actually pointed this out to her (politely, I was like, "lots of public schools made the top 20 list, maybe you can check some of them out") and the response was priceless - "We're private school people" (in other words... it's not about the quality of the education!)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2565 on: May 04, 2014, 06:09:05 PM »
I heard two good ones today at the company picnic. By good I mean surprisingly Mustachian. I guess it helps that I work with engineers.

CW1 accepted a severance package last year but they asked her to stay on until mid-year this year to finish a project. She's about to leave in a month. She shared that she's 46 and it's time for a break. She has plans to see her daughter off to college, teach dance classes, etc. She and her husband have been conservative with their finances their whole lives. She stated she's done everything right and by the book up until now and she's just going to enjoy this time. I could have said the same exact words! Unfortunately, she's not ready for ER yet.

CW2 and I were talking about potential upcoming severance packages and he's all ready to accept it as I am. He wants to slow travel to Europe with his wife and parents. He is also mid-40s.

They both mentioned that we are in our 40s and are tired of doing the same thing. So it looks like being financially prepared gives you options in life. I was very impressed!
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2566 on: May 05, 2014, 01:42:08 PM »
I don't think fighting is the problem.  It's fighting and then holding long grudges and resentment.

Maybe it doesn't bother other people. For me, fighting a lot would mean we have pretty fundamental differences, which would make me wonder why I was with the person. I'm not a fighting sort of person AT ALL, so it would be very difficult to resolve issues with someone if that was how they dealt with conflicts.

Two people who both liked to fight would probably get along very well, come to think of it.

All depends on the people involved, I think. My fiance says he never had a single fight with his ex, and they were together for five years, and even then he saw it as a red flag.

We fight when we need to, but that's how we work out differences of opinion. If you're not a fighting person, presumably you're still working things out somehow, it's just not in such a way that fits most definitions of fighting. Fighting has actually been good for my fiance; with his ex, it wasn't that he wasn't a fighter, it was that they both avoided confrontation at all costs, any kind of confrontation that might lead to any kind of conflict. Engaging in some level of fighting has helped him be ok with confronting me when I'm being an asshole, instead of just swallowing everything and burping out resentment.

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« Reply #2567 on: May 05, 2014, 10:30:52 PM »
I heard two good ones today at the company picnic. By good I mean surprisingly Mustachian. I guess it helps that I work with engineers.

CW1 accepted a severance package last year but they asked her to stay on until mid-year this year to finish a project. She's about to leave in a month. She shared that she's 46 and it's time for a break. She has plans to see her daughter off to college, teach dance classes, etc. She and her husband have been conservative with their finances their whole lives. She stated she's done everything right and by the book up until now and she's just going to enjoy this time. I could have said the same exact words! Unfortunately, she's not ready for ER yet.

CW2 and I were talking about potential upcoming severance packages and he's all ready to accept it as I am. He wants to slow travel to Europe with his wife and parents. He is also mid-40s.

They both mentioned that we are in our 40s and are tired of doing the same thing. So it looks like being financially prepared gives you options in life. I was very impressed!
We just had layoffs.  Sadly, those of us who wanted the package were not laid off.

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« Reply #2568 on: May 06, 2014, 04:48:06 AM »
I was at a marriage workshop thingy (it was pretty cool, and my fiancé liked it too!) with a bunch of other couples. In chatting with one of the women there, she decided to give me some advice: "Money is the root of all evil. All your fights will be about money. Cause if you think about it, when will you ever stop wanting to buy things?"
A common misquote; it's actually "love of money" which is supposed* to be the root of all evil. Fighting about money could be a sign that they value it too highly.

*In the Bible, of all places. One has to wonder what Satan's salary as CEO of Hell is. Anyway, we can probably agree that there's plenty of evil which isn't motivated by money, so let's dispense with the philosophy.
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« Reply #2569 on: May 06, 2014, 09:38:36 AM »
I was at a marriage workshop thingy (it was pretty cool, and my fiancé liked it too!) with a bunch of other couples. In chatting with one of the women there, she decided to give me some advice: "Money is the root of all evil. All your fights will be about money. Cause if you think about it, when will you ever stop wanting to buy things?"
A common misquote; it's actually "love of money" which is supposed* to be the root of all evil. Fighting about money could be a sign that they value it too highly.

*In the Bible, of all places. One has to wonder what Satan's salary as CEO of Hell is. Anyway, we can probably agree that there's plenty of evil which isn't motivated by money, so let's dispense with the philosophy.

Looks like it's really only the KJV that uses the phrase 'all evil'. Most other translations use: 'For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.' Would look deeper into the translation differences if I had the time. Hmm maybe a good weekend project.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2570 on: May 06, 2014, 01:41:21 PM »
Mine says, "Money is the root of all sorts of injurious things." :D

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2571 on: May 07, 2014, 05:25:48 AM »
Just got a big (20k ) raise, and in my new department on the first day I overheard my fellow workers:

"Blah, blah, blah, yeah and I want the new X designer bag"
"Yeah I'm going to get the X designer bag too, etc"
"(laughing) yeah we just have to wait until next payday because I'm so broke!"

Um. WHAT IS HAPPENING? For all the shit I read about my horrible generation (I'm 26) I mostly hear this kind of talk from people over the ages of 35-40 in my office. They spend $6000 on a handbag they don't bat an eye, lunch out everyday, don't bat an eye, I bring my own coffee in a jar to work or mention not having cable and they all scream HIPSTER!!!! Yeah, I'm not a hipster, I'm aware of the results of stupid spending. By the way, since when did using recycled bags and making things from scratch mean hipster? My 90 year old grandma does that so I guess she must be a hipster too.

Well young people doing things old people do is typical hipster.  Like spinning your own yarn:



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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2572 on: May 07, 2014, 11:54:16 AM »
Our work is moving to a new location. I said I was going to move into the onsite apartments and ride my bike 1/4 mi to work.

CW1 says: I could never live in an apartment again, I have too much stuff!
Me: Maybe you could downsize?
CW2: No, don't you see, he loves his stuff!

CW1 then proceeds to talk about the 4000sq ft house he just got and how he had to fill up all the extra space with new stuff! And how him and his wife don't use all the space, its just for guests!

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« Reply #2573 on: May 07, 2014, 05:11:02 PM »
This whole hipster thing is fantastic...
Now I'm cool and don't have to cop flak for my MMM behaviors anymore ;-)

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« Reply #2574 on: May 07, 2014, 05:56:39 PM »
This whole hipster thing is fantastic...
Now I'm cool and don't have to cop flak for my MMM behaviors anymore ;-)

I had hipsters explained to me after picking up a copy of Frankie's (http://www.frankie.com.au). I got all excited by it - look people like me! (Except this stuff isn't quite practical and that costs too much)... Oh, these people don't actually like it, only ironically? Well at least I can blend in if I curb my enthusiasm...

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« Reply #2575 on: May 07, 2014, 06:50:21 PM »
I live in Vancouver, which is one of the hipster capitals of the world. About two years ago people stopped calling me weird and started calling me hipster. Apparently it's getting worse - I'm now at the extreme end of hipster, the kind that makes people roll their eyes. I haven't actually changed any of my behaviour over the years (maybe learned a few more DIY things than before), so it's interesting seeing the perception change.
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« Reply #2576 on: May 07, 2014, 07:21:21 PM »
This whole hipster thing is fantastic...
Now I'm cool and don't have to cop flak for my MMM behaviors anymore ;-)

I had hipsters explained to me after picking up a copy of Frankie's (http://www.frankie.com.au). I got all excited by it - look people like me! (Except this stuff isn't quite practical and that costs too much)... Oh, these people don't actually like it, only ironically? Well at least I can blend in if I curb my enthusiasm...

Maybe it's just the people I know, but they do sincerely like the frankie / hipster lifestyle, not just ironically. So some of my friends have a crochet circle with me, and they talk about attempting to cook sponge cakes, and wear frilly aprons. My kind of people. I always knew if I waited long enough the 1950s housewife ideal would come back into fashion...

Back on topic:

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2577 on: May 07, 2014, 10:08:05 PM »
My downstairs neighbor and cubicle neighbor extended an invitation to use his dry cleaner. Apparently the dry cleaner picks up and delivers ~40,000w ($39.06 USD) worth of dry cleaning a month from him, and would be happy to collect more in our building. Uh... no. I don't have anything that needs dry cleaning.

Am I just crazy? Is $40 a month on dry cleaning normal?

He also has a cleaning lady for his 275 sq ft apartment, which I still don't understand.

Our lifestyle isn't the type that demands outsourcing these jobs, in my opinion.

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« Reply #2578 on: May 08, 2014, 02:13:49 AM »
We were discussing automatic bill payments and one of my subordinates mentioned that he has everything but his cell phone bill on auto because "they take the money three days before the 1st so I have to wait until payday."  I know he's not living paycheck to paycheck since he recently had a $2000 truck repair bill without his hair catching fire, but that comment seemed out of place.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2579 on: May 08, 2014, 06:43:13 AM »
My downstairs neighbor and cubicle neighbor extended an invitation to use his dry cleaner. Apparently the dry cleaner picks up and delivers ~40,000w ($39.06 USD) worth of dry cleaning a month from him, and would be happy to collect more in our building. Uh... no. I don't have anything that needs dry cleaning.

Am I just crazy? Is $40 a month on dry cleaning normal?

He also has a cleaning lady for his 275 sq ft apartment, which I still don't understand.

Our lifestyle isn't the type that demands outsourcing these jobs, in my opinion.

I think we have a similar lifestyle over here. no need to outsource if you only have to work 20-30 hrs a week

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« Reply #2580 on: May 08, 2014, 07:10:58 AM »
My downstairs neighbor and cubicle neighbor extended an invitation to use his dry cleaner. Apparently the dry cleaner picks up and delivers ~40,000w ($39.06 USD) worth of dry cleaning a month from him, and would be happy to collect more in our building. Uh... no. I don't have anything that needs dry cleaning.

Am I just crazy? Is $40 a month on dry cleaning normal?

He also has a cleaning lady for his 275 sq ft apartment, which I still don't understand.

Our lifestyle isn't the type that demands outsourcing these jobs, in my opinion.
I make sure all clothes I buy can be washed, not dry cleaned.  Clothes that need dry cleaning, aren't needed by a Mustachian.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2581 on: May 08, 2014, 07:35:02 AM »
My downstairs neighbor and cubicle neighbor extended an invitation to use his dry cleaner. Apparently the dry cleaner picks up and delivers ~40,000w ($39.06 USD) worth of dry cleaning a month from him, and would be happy to collect more in our building. Uh... no. I don't have anything that needs dry cleaning.

Am I just crazy? Is $40 a month on dry cleaning normal?

He also has a cleaning lady for his 275 sq ft apartment, which I still don't understand.

Our lifestyle isn't the type that demands outsourcing these jobs, in my opinion.
I make sure all clothes I buy can be washed, not dry cleaned.  Clothes that need dry cleaning, aren't needed by a Mustachian.

That's not really true - there are some jobs that require the type of clothing that has to be dry cleaned.  Finance comes to mind.  I don't happen to have a job like that myself because I can generally get away with using dryel most of the time and only taking stuff in every - let's be honest, 6-12 months (trending more to 12) or so - to be dry cleaned.  I'm a lawyer, but for the state - a partner at a law firm might need it though.  But some really can't get away with using dryel and need the type of clothes that are dry clean only.

Is it a $40 fee to pick up dry cleaning?  Or is it that they will pick up dry cleaning once a month, and clean it for you, charging a minimum of $40 (so if you have $60 worth of stuff you pay $60 and if you have $30 worth of stuff you pay $40)?  The former is not mustachian, as you well know.  The latter, if you regularly require dry cleaning upwards of $40 a month could be.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2582 on: May 08, 2014, 09:15:09 AM »
We were discussing automatic bill payments and one of my subordinates mentioned that he has everything but his cell phone bill on auto because "they take the money three days before the 1st so I have to wait until payday."  I know he's not living paycheck to paycheck since he recently had a $2000 truck repair bill without his hair catching fire, but that comment seemed out of place.

Maybe he just doesn't want to leave money sitting in checking all month (or two weeks) to pay that bill at the end of the month? I don't put anything on auto because I like the sense of control and have never forgotten; granted, I only have 4 payments to make.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2583 on: May 08, 2014, 11:11:04 AM »

I make sure all clothes I buy can be washed, not dry cleaned.  Clothes that need dry cleaning, aren't needed by a Mustachian.

Cringe.

Surely dry cleaning a suit or dress 1-2 times per year, and any associated events at which said clothing might be worn, is incompatible with FI!

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« Reply #2584 on: May 08, 2014, 12:18:57 PM »
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2585 on: May 08, 2014, 12:33:09 PM »
My downstairs neighbor and cubicle neighbor extended an invitation to use his dry cleaner. Apparently the dry cleaner picks up and delivers ~40,000w ($39.06 USD) worth of dry cleaning a month from him, and would be happy to collect more in our building. Uh... no. I don't have anything that needs dry cleaning.

Am I just crazy? Is $40 a month on dry cleaning normal?

He also has a cleaning lady for his 275 sq ft apartment, which I still don't understand.

Our lifestyle isn't the type that demands outsourcing these jobs, in my opinion.
I make sure all clothes I buy can be washed, not dry cleaned.  Clothes that need dry cleaning, aren't needed by a Mustachian.

Do you wear a suit to work?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2586 on: May 08, 2014, 12:37:05 PM »
Now retired, so no suits.  Wore suits that had to be dry cleaned when I worked in DC and well before MMM days.  After that I moved to things that could be washed.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2587 on: May 08, 2014, 12:59:49 PM »
Every once in a while, usually when I'm watching Mad Men or something, I think it would be awesome to have a job where I wear a suit every day. I look pretty dapper in one, if I do say so myself.

Then I remember how much I hated wearing a jacket and tie in high school and realize that I would quit almost immediately.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2588 on: May 08, 2014, 08:45:39 PM »
All my uniforms are provided at no cost and are replaced as necessary.  My class A uniform is basically a suit and I typically have it dry cleaned once a year.  I also have a couple regular suits and other nice clothes that I periodically have dry cleaned.  This isn't something I mind outsourcing because the end result looks much better than when I do it.

Every once in a while, usually when I'm watching Mad Men or something, I think it would be awesome to have a job where I wear a suit every day. I look pretty dapper in one, if I do say so myself.

+1  My show is actually called "Suits" and while I watch, I imagine being all suave and debonair wearing a suit every day.

Maybe he just doesn't want to leave money sitting in checking all month (or two weeks) to pay that bill at the end of the month? I don't put anything on auto because I like the sense of control and have never forgotten; granted, I only have 4 payments to make.

I don't have any of my checking account bills on auto as I also enjoy the control.  I do, however, have several bills that can be charged to a credit card with no surcharge.  These automatically go to my 1.5% card and then it's aggregated into one place that I pay at the end of the month.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2589 on: May 09, 2014, 07:01:29 AM »
I enjoy wearing suits. I love the look and fit.

Mondays - I wear jeans and a button up for work
Rest of the week, it's pajamas or jeans and a t shirt.

I don't like being obligated to wear a suit, but I love to wear them outside of the workplace.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2590 on: May 09, 2014, 08:31:51 AM »
There is some surprising love of wearing suits in here for a site dedicated to eschewing material trappings and escaping from the workforce.

FWIW I don't even like wearing pants.  I plan to spend my first few years of FI wandering around in my underwear, not looking dapper but being happy.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2591 on: May 09, 2014, 08:43:01 AM »
I don't even like wearing pants.  I plan to spend my first few years of FI wandering around in my underwear, not looking dapper but being happy.

LOL. I believe that pants restrict creativity and fun.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2592 on: May 09, 2014, 08:47:20 AM »
I don't even like wearing pants.  I plan to spend my first few years of FI wandering around in my underwear, not looking dapper but being happy.

LOL. I believe that pants restrict creativity and fun.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2593 on: May 09, 2014, 09:55:34 AM »
CW: They were going to shut off my cell phone for non-payment so I went down there and took care of it and look I even upgraded to a smart phone
Me:  How much did that set you back?
CW: $545
Me:  Where on earth did you come up with the money? (she never has any money - always behind on payments, etc.)
CW: I wrote a check
Me: But you never have that kind of money in your checking account
CW: It was one of those credit card checks

Me (to myself): Only 47 more months and you are out of here.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2594 on: May 09, 2014, 10:39:01 AM »
There is some surprising love of wearing suits in here for a site dedicated to eschewing material trappings and escaping from the workforce.

FWIW I don't even like wearing pants.  I plan to spend my first few years of FI wandering around in my underwear, not looking dapper but being happy.

More diaper than dapper.  Hey, why even the underwear?

I don't see the same surprise that female members here enjoy dressing nicely, whether they need to for work or not.  Don't see why dudes can't enjoy dressing up and looking good.  Just nice to have the freedom not to have to do it every day.  Maybe I'm shallow, but I get a little boost from getting dressed up and wearing my nice clothes for a special occasion.  It got kind of depressing when I went through a stretch where I never had a reason to wear anything nicer than jeans and a sweatshirt.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2595 on: May 09, 2014, 11:07:46 AM »
CW: They were going to shut off my cell phone for non-payment so I went down there and took care of it and look I even upgraded to a smart phone
Me:  How much did that set you back?
CW: $545
Me:  Where on earth did you come up with the money? (she never has any money - always behind on payments, etc.)
CW: I wrote a check
Me: But you never have that kind of money in your checking account
CW: It was one of those credit card checks

Me (to myself): Only 47 more months and you are out of here.

OMG! I've only used a credit card check once, it was a few weeks ago, and it was because I had to put a downpayment on an apartment, but my ex had cleaned my accessible accounts out, and I was waiting for money to transfer. But I only did it because I HAD the money - it was just in transfer limbo. In fact yesterday I went in and paid my credit card bill in full to avoid the crazy interest rate on that stupid check.

But people seriously use those things?! I'm a bit horrified.

Makes me glad I work for a small company with a bunch of (mostly) frugal people. The owner of the company makes over $1M a year (I work in accounting, so I know this for a fact) drives a 20 year old car and lives in a little tiny fixer upper house.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2596 on: May 09, 2014, 11:11:03 AM »
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2597 on: May 09, 2014, 12:02:45 PM »
I don't see the same surprise that female members here enjoy dressing nicely, whether they need to for work or not.  Don't see why dudes can't enjoy dressing up and looking good.  Just nice to have the freedom not to have to do it every day.  Maybe I'm shallow, but I get a little boost from getting dressed up and wearing my nice clothes for a special occasion.  It got kind of depressing when I went through a stretch where I never had a reason to wear anything nicer than jeans and a sweatshirt.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2598 on: May 09, 2014, 12:03:37 PM »
I don't even like wearing pants.  I plan to spend my first few years of FI wandering around in my underwear, not looking dapper but being happy.

LOL. I believe that pants restrict creativity and fun.

fight the pantriarchy

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #2599 on: May 09, 2014, 12:13:19 PM »
There is some surprising love of wearing suits in here for a site dedicated to eschewing material trappings and escaping from the workforce.

FWIW I don't even like wearing pants.  I plan to spend my first few years of FI wandering around in my underwear, not looking dapper but being happy.

More diaper than dapper.  Hey, why even the underwear?

I don't see the same surprise that female members here enjoy dressing nicely, whether they need to for work or not.  Don't see why dudes can't enjoy dressing up and looking good.  Just nice to have the freedom not to have to do it every day.  Maybe I'm shallow, but I get a little boost from getting dressed up and wearing my nice clothes for a special occasion.  It got kind of depressing when I went through a stretch where I never had a reason to wear anything nicer than jeans and a sweatshirt.

I look better naked, so don't get depressed for lack of fancy clothes.

Plus, as a hirsute man it's like I'm wearing pants all the time anyway!