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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19900 on: March 01, 2018, 09:30:46 PM »
Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

Australia has chips, chips and corn chips.

Context is everything.

Then what do you call corn chips?  Now I am confused...  ;P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19901 on: March 01, 2018, 10:45:42 PM »
Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

Australia has chips, chips and corn chips.

Context is everything.

I would say Australia has

Fries
Chips
Wedges
Chips and
corn chips

though I would accept basically all of them except wedges as chips
You forgot chicken chippies!
« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 10:47:17 PM by Nudelkopf »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19902 on: March 01, 2018, 11:28:40 PM »
Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

Australia has chips, chips and corn chips.

Context is everything.

I would say Australia has

Fries
Chips
Wedges
Chips and
corn chips

though I would accept basically all of them except wedges as chips
You forgot chicken chippies!

I don’t eat wedges but chicken chippies was a definite oversight!

:D :D :D

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19903 on: March 02, 2018, 01:34:49 AM »
I had a moment there and then figured it out. Regional language differences. :-)
Chips= deep fried potato wedges, not deep fried triangles of corn tortilla.

Can’t you get them in the frozen section of the grocery store and then cook them in the oven?

Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

To make it more confusing, the Dutch use the word "chips" where the English use "crisps". We call the fried potato wedges for "patat friet", from French.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19904 on: March 02, 2018, 08:44:01 AM »
This is too rich to not post here. Scene: p/t retail gig, I (25F) make $11.50/hr, with other sales associate (21F) who makes $12/hr. Being the grandma of the store staff, I tell them about the gigs and jobs I've had over the years. When I was in high school I'd post on Craigslist looking to clean people's houses for $15/hr, got lots of takers to help out a high school kid get some cash.

21F tells me how she wants to hire someone to help her clean her place because she doesn't have time to do it and her roommate is a worthless turd. She works no more than 25 hrs per week and mostly just smokes weed and does dabs on her days off, living in her granddad's rental for $800 between her and her roommate. Not 2 days ago she was telling me how hard it is to be an adult and pay for everything. I gently mention how eating fast food every day, having a dog, getting tattoos every month, not having a full-time job (working retail, no less), and buying a brand-new car when she was 19 are all choices she made and it's never too late to change habits. I even mention how I make my own cleaners from a few household items, and how to really break down tasks so they're not too daunting.

After talking through some of these points, she still wants me to come over and help her out at her place to clean. I'm happy to help her out and take her money, but I don't want to hear about how hard it is to survive "in this economy". I took this second job in September and have paid off nearly $7k in debt in that time. Maybe one day she'll put her big girl panties on and take some initiative.

So basically it is hard to summon the motivation to do anything but veg out. She like many other 'youngins just don't know what hard work is - and keeping house isn't hard, just needs a bunch of baby steps strung together.

I was the same when I was about ten. By the time I was in my teens (13) I was mowing yards, babysitting, washing and detailing cars, etc. In my 20s I was in the military. All that redefined what 'hard' means. How many people these days don't do things like that? Maintenance free lifestyle.

She ought to challenge herself more. Do a room a day. Then do a room a day and then add in a walk or run. She has to peel off her sloth and train to be an adult. Give up the weed. More money left and more motivation perhaps.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19905 on: March 02, 2018, 10:38:12 AM »
I had a moment there and then figured it out. Regional language differences. :-)
Chips= deep fried potato wedges, not deep fried triangles of corn tortilla.

Can’t you get them in the frozen section of the grocery store and then cook them in the oven?

Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

To make it more confusing, the Dutch use the word "chips" where the English use "crisps". We call the fried potato wedges for "patat friet", from French.

I remember myself being completely shocked when I was in the US and "burger and chips" meant I would get actual potato chips (as in, crisps) next to my plate. Since when are chips an option for lunch/dinner?!?! That's not food! I was convinced I'd get french fries-chips. Biggest dining out disappointment ever.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19906 on: March 02, 2018, 01:30:59 PM »
I had a moment there and then figured it out. Regional language differences. :-)
Chips= deep fried potato wedges, not deep fried triangles of corn tortilla.

Can’t you get them in the frozen section of the grocery store and then cook them in the oven?

Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

To make it more confusing, the Dutch use the word "chips" where the English use "crisps". We call the fried potato wedges for "patat friet", from French.

I remember myself being completely shocked when I was in the US and "burger and chips" meant I would get actual potato chips (as in, crisps) next to my plate. Since when are chips an option for lunch/dinner?!?! That's not food! I was convinced I'd get french fries-chips. Biggest dining out disappointment ever.

I’m from Rand McNally so I wear my hat on my feet and call fries “papas yumyums”

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19907 on: March 02, 2018, 01:34:57 PM »
I had a moment there and then figured it out. Regional language differences. :-)
Chips= deep fried potato wedges, not deep fried triangles of corn tortilla.

Can’t you get them in the frozen section of the grocery store and then cook them in the oven?

Chips = french fries
Crisps = potato chips
Tortilla chips = tortilla chips

Does anyone say tortilla crisps?  I think the Brits messed up on this one.

To make it more confusing, the Dutch use the word "chips" where the English use "crisps". We call the fried potato wedges for "patat friet", from French.

I remember myself being completely shocked when I was in the US and "burger and chips" meant I would get actual potato chips (as in, crisps) next to my plate. Since when are chips an option for lunch/dinner?!?! That's not food! I was convinced I'd get french fries-chips. Biggest dining out disappointment ever.

I’m from Rand McNally so I wear my hat on my feet and call fries “papas yumyums”

In fact, in Rand McNally, they wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19908 on: March 02, 2018, 03:43:28 PM »
This is too rich to not post here. Scene: p/t retail gig, I (25F) make $11.50/hr, with other sales associate (21F) who makes $12/hr. Being the grandma of the store staff, I tell them about the gigs and jobs I've had over the years. When I was in high school I'd post on Craigslist looking to clean people's houses for $15/hr, got lots of takers to help out a high school kid get some cash.

21F tells me how she wants to hire someone to help her clean her place because she doesn't have time to do it and her roommate is a worthless turd. She works no more than 25 hrs per week and mostly just smokes weed and does dabs on her days off, living in her granddad's rental for $800 between her and her roommate.

She makes $12/hr and wants to HIRE a cleaner? I made about $12/hr back in the late 1980s, when it went a lot further, and I never thought it was enough to hire someone. I cleaned myself (or put up with my roommates' dirt, most likely).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19909 on: March 02, 2018, 08:50:36 PM »
Sitting at work yesterday, I overheard the Finance Director talking to the new HR Director, mostly shooing the crap and whatnot.  But this really stood out to me:

Finance: Yeah, I just got a golf cart the other day.
HR: Really? Don't they have some at the golf course?
Finance: Yeah, but they cost $5 to rent for the day.  So I got one for myself.  Think of the savings!
HR: Yeah, I guess you're right.  How much was it?
Finance: It was only (unintelligible price), and they didn't even want a down payment!  I had to ask to make sure I heard them correctly.  I just said   '...okay then!'

I tried to listen, but at points they were very quiet.  I really wish I heard how much it was for the cart, I can't envision a scenario where it would be worthwhile to FINANCE a golf cart with zero down when you can rent one for a day at $5 a pop.  Especially if he needs to tow it to his favorite (golf) clubbing spot.  Maybe if he goes every Saturday and Sunday, but then the maintenance/towing/charging would probably cost at least $5, knowing that he drives an F-250...


The HR Director is a bit Anti-Mustachian as well, judging from her choice in vehicle.  One day as I was starting into my 2004 Buick Century with 195k miles and a dent in the bumper from when my dad whacked a deer, I saw her walking out of the building.  As I was sweeping snow off of my car, I see her push a button on her key fob. I jumped as the very imposing impeccably clean red F-350 super duty diesel sparks to life right behind me and belches some diesel smoke out of the dual tailpipes.  I say hi as she walks by and she very haughtily says,

HR:"oh, hi StealthFundip, is this your car? (gesturing at the salt-sprayed tan Buick I'm dusting off)"
Stealth:"Yep, my dad gave it to me when he got a new(to him) truck.  I used to drive a '94 F-150, but when I worked at $BigJuiceCompany I spent more than half my paycheck on gas!  At least I don't have any payments for the next 50-100k miles though." 
HR:(after hearing how many miles it had)"Oh wow, if I were you I'd start looking for a new car ASAP.  I'd be amazed if you made it to 200k miles before it falls apart! Most cars are only safe until you get about 100k miles, I wouldn't believe it's got so many if it wasn't right here in front of me!" (She said this in a way that was almost patronizing, but with a dash of snootiness as well)
Stealth: "Well, it's working great for me, and I see no reason to get a new car on a part time intern's salary..."
HR: "Well, don't say I didn't warn you!  See you later."

I will be happily saving at least 25% of my intern wages while she spends a fortune on feeding her diesel beast :)

And on parents buying their kids BRAND NEW CARS for going to college, they should really consider gifting their old car with new tires and brake pads.  When I first started driving that pickup truck, it was a bit scary.  But after it got new tires and brakes, it was easily able to handle 8" of snow and otherwise dangerous slippery roads.  Felt and drove like one of those brand new trucks my truck nut friends were buying.  But it did get a lot harder to drift around particularly snowy corners... Maybe another plus for the parents, though!


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19910 on: March 03, 2018, 05:13:38 AM »
And on parents buying their kids BRAND NEW CARS for going to college, they should really consider gifting their old car with new tires and brake pads. When I first started driving that pickup truck, it was a bit scary.  But after it got new tires and brakes, it was easily able to handle 8" of snow and otherwise dangerous slippery roads.  Felt and drove like one of those brand new trucks my truck nut friends were buying.  But it did get a lot harder to drift around particularly snowy corners... Maybe another plus for the parents, though!

Where I work, they can’t gift their old cars because the parents hire a full-time chauffeur and car. They don’t have old cars.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19911 on: March 03, 2018, 06:36:44 AM »
Ordered ubereats today because Amex gives me $15 free a month.  Even if I wanted to order in, I can ’t imagine paying a $5 delivery fee when I can pick up myself in 5 min.  Seriously considering becoming an ubereats driver to pick up my own orders

Amex $15/month is our monthly Ubereats treat - I could stay under the $15, but that would mean McDonalds. Bleah. Instead, I spend an extra couple bucks and get an order of chicken tikka masala from the Indian place, comes with 1 piece of naan and rice.

Had a brilliant thought last time: Since it always comes with massive amounts of sauce, and that's the distinctive flavor - we just sauteed up a bunch of chicken and vegetables, then combined that with the chicken tikka masala when it arrived. Also heated up some of our own tortillas as a naan substitute. Hearty meal for 3, with leftovers.

I have a friend at work who drives for Uber/Ubereats - but I really think she doesn't do the math. Why drive around putting miles and burning gas in a new (<2 year old) SUV?
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19912 on: March 03, 2018, 11:28:28 AM »
Just overheard this conversation yesterday, but first a little background.

I have a co-worker who is single and bought a home only a few minutes from work a year or two ago; it is a modest 1 acre lot with a ~900 sq/ft house, that he paid around 55k for. He also drives a used Saturn that he bought from his grandparents for ~3k when they became too old to drive. Compared to most of my co-workers he seemed pretty fiscally responsible, of course he has a few spendy-pants habits . . .

I've always know he has a (shall we say) hobby of buying and "watching" newer movies on blu-ray. I use the quotation marks because he watches most of the movie in fast forward only slowing down for what he thinks are key parts of dialogue. He then make a digital copy of them and places it on his home server for . . . later watching? (I don't really know)

Now on to the shocking overheard story:

This co-worker and another co-worker were talking about the number of movies he owns, excluding duplicates and how much he has spent on them. Apparently over the last 18 years he has accumulated three-thousand plus movies, mostly new releases, but with some older or bundle purchases. The shocking part is that many of these are where new releases and he estimates the total purchase price of his collection to be $56,700. Yes his movie collecting habit cost him about $3,000 a year and over the course of 18 years he has spent more on movies than the purchase price of his house (and more than half of his car).


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19913 on: March 03, 2018, 12:58:56 PM »
Just overheard this conversation yesterday, but first a little background.

I have a co-worker who is single and bought a home only a few minutes from work a year or two ago; it is a modest 1 acre lot with a ~900 sq/ft house, that he paid around 55k for. He also drives a used Saturn that he bought from his grandparents for ~3k when they became too old to drive. Compared to most of my co-workers he seemed pretty fiscally responsible, of course he has a few spendy-pants habits . . .

I've always know he has a (shall we say) hobby of buying and "watching" newer movies on blu-ray. I use the quotation marks because he watches most of the movie in fast forward only slowing down for what he thinks are key parts of dialogue. He then make a digital copy of them and places it on his home server for . . . later watching? (I don't really know)

Now on to the shocking overheard story:

This co-worker and another co-worker were talking about the number of movies he owns, excluding duplicates and how much he has spent on them. Apparently over the last 18 years he has accumulated three-thousand plus movies, mostly new releases, but with some older or bundle purchases. The shocking part is that many of these are where new releases and he estimates the total purchase price of his collection to be $56,700. Yes his movie collecting habit cost him about $3,000 a year and over the course of 18 years he has spent more on movies than the purchase price of his house (and more than half of his car).

That is terrible. And it totally doesn't have this value today.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19914 on: March 03, 2018, 05:14:27 PM »
Just overheard this conversation yesterday, but first a little background.

I have a co-worker who is single and bought a home only a few minutes from work a year or two ago; it is a modest 1 acre lot with a ~900 sq/ft house, that he paid around 55k for. He also drives a used Saturn that he bought from his grandparents for ~3k when they became too old to drive. Compared to most of my co-workers he seemed pretty fiscally responsible, of course he has a few spendy-pants habits . . .

I've always know he has a (shall we say) hobby of buying and "watching" newer movies on blu-ray. I use the quotation marks because he watches most of the movie in fast forward only slowing down for what he thinks are key parts of dialogue. He then make a digital copy of them and places it on his home server for . . . later watching? (I don't really know)

Now on to the shocking overheard story:

This co-worker and another co-worker were talking about the number of movies he owns, excluding duplicates and how much he has spent on them. Apparently over the last 18 years he has accumulated three-thousand plus movies, mostly new releases, but with some older or bundle purchases. The shocking part is that many of these are where new releases and he estimates the total purchase price of his collection to be $56,700. Yes his movie collecting habit cost him about $3,000 a year and over the course of 18 years he has spent more on movies than the purchase price of his house (and more than half of his car).

That is terrible. And it totally doesn't have this value today.

I agree and hence why I used purchase price instead of value.

He is aware of the value loss, but still thinks some that are classics and "out of print" may be worth a little extra.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19915 on: March 04, 2018, 12:14:33 AM »
I work at a law firm.  All of the attorneys have six-figure incomes, but some are salaried whereas others are paid based on their actual billings, depending on how their agreement is set up with the firm. 

One of our newer attorneys has decades of experience working at big firms for clients with deep pockets. She loves to talk about all the crazy-high salaries she's had over the years, in excess of $300k/year at times. She sponsors local political campaigns, wears new clothing and expensive jewelry every day, must have a weekly salon haircut. She's on the track of "paid based on actual billings."

One month when some of her bills were held up going out to a client, she confessed to her assistant that if payment weren't made quickly, she'd have to declare bankruptcy. The next month (after the bills went out after all) she's buying a designer dog.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19916 on: March 04, 2018, 04:25:43 AM »
One month when some of her bills were held up going out to a client, she confessed to her assistant that if payment weren't made quickly, she'd have to declare bankruptcy. The next month (after the bills went out after all) she's buying a designer dog.

I'm glad I do not know what this is.

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« Reply #19917 on: March 04, 2018, 04:55:38 AM »
One month when some of her bills were held up going out to a client, she confessed to her assistant that if payment weren't made quickly, she'd have to declare bankruptcy. The next month (after the bills went out after all) she's buying a designer dog.

I'm glad I do not know what this is.

The product of the pet equivalent of the Porsche car configurator. /s

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19918 on: March 04, 2018, 10:20:03 AM »
This is too rich to not post here. Scene: p/t retail gig, I (25F) make $11.50/hr, with other sales associate (21F) who makes $12/hr. Being the grandma of the store staff, I tell them about the gigs and jobs I've had over the years. When I was in high school I'd post on Craigslist looking to clean people's houses for $15/hr, got lots of takers to help out a high school kid get some cash.

21F tells me how she wants to hire someone to help her clean her place because she doesn't have time to do it and her roommate is a worthless turd. She works no more than 25 hrs per week and mostly just smokes weed and does dabs
OK, I thought I was pretty aware of things, but, I had to look up dabs.
Well, maybe less material in your lungs, but probably less efficient (less mustachian), in that some THC will be left in the green material and the time and materials used to make the dab.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19919 on: March 04, 2018, 02:41:15 PM »
My coworker was telling me about a discussion  she’d had with her teenage son.   He was going on a high school outing that involved buying lunch at a restaurant.    He asked her for some money; she handed over $15.   Him:   “Mum, that won’t be enough.   I don’t want to look POOR.”   She gave him an extra $10.

Me:   “Where on earth are they going that $15 isn’t enough?  Plus, doesn’t he have his own money from his part time job?”   She just looked sheepish and didn’t answer.


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« Reply #19920 on: March 04, 2018, 03:34:36 PM »
My coworker was telling me about a discussion  she’d had with her teenage son.   He was going on a high school outing that involved buying lunch at a restaurant.    He asked her for some money; she handed over $15.   Him:   “Mum, that won’t be enough.   I don’t want to look POOR.”   She gave him an extra $10.

Me:   “Where on earth are they going that $15 isn’t enough?  Plus, doesn’t he have his own money from his part time job?”   She just looked sheepish and didn’t answer.

Kids going to order a $5 soup and blow the rest on crack

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19921 on: March 05, 2018, 01:28:28 PM »
I've always know he has a (shall we say) hobby of buying and "watching" newer movies on blu-ray. I use the quotation marks because he watches most of the movie in fast forward only slowing down for what he thinks are key parts of dialogue.

WTF? That's the most shocking part of the story to me - if you're going to disrespect the movies that much and spoil them for yourself then why even bother in the first place?

I did get into buying DVDs fairly early on (1999), it is a bit painful when the DVDs you spent £12-£15 on are now worth about £0.50. Fortunately I skipped buying Blu-rays at full price (you can get those for peanuts now too), but now I've been bitten by the 4K bug. Trying to keep it to only the best of the best new releases, though.

And I've spent nothing like the amount this guy has!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19922 on: March 05, 2018, 02:52:16 PM »
My coworker was always bragging about the great deals he’d gotten on blu rays or games.   When I said “You must have a blast watching/playing those”, he scoffed “Ha.   I never have time for that shit.   And even when I do, my kid is always hogging the TV.”

He finally got a bit more spare time - but his kid is still hogging the TV.   His solution?    Buy another TV, of course.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19923 on: March 05, 2018, 02:54:22 PM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19924 on: March 05, 2018, 04:11:05 PM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

why? if he's a contract worker he has no authority. A jackass alone in the woods does not make real discrimination.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19925 on: March 05, 2018, 04:29:42 PM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

why? if he's a contract worker he has no authority. A jackass alone in the woods does not make real discrimination.

If it's a good company I would hope they would be mortified by his comment and not renew his contract. Being quiet about sexism helps.... who exactly???

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19926 on: March 05, 2018, 10:07:27 PM »
Do you have reason to believe he would have said something different if the genders were reversed? My coworkers would ask me if I married into money if I took off every other month too...

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« Reply #19927 on: March 06, 2018, 01:31:52 AM »
Do you have reason to believe he would have said something different if the genders were reversed? My coworkers would ask me if I married into money if I took off every other month too...

I'd report him because I don't think that's a professionally appropriate comment to make to ANYONE who has come for an interview. It's one thing to make a joke like that to a long-term colleague whose sense of humour you know - quite another to come out with a "witty" aside like that in an interview when everyone involved ought to be on their best professional behaviour. If he wanted to know more, a more appropriate response would have been "Oh, that's interesting. How do you manage that?"

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« Reply #19928 on: March 06, 2018, 06:32:30 AM »
Do you have reason to believe he would have said something different if the genders were reversed? My coworkers would ask me if I married into money if I took off every other month too...

I'd report him because I don't think that's a professionally appropriate comment to make to ANYONE who has come for an interview. It's one thing to make a joke like that to a long-term colleague whose sense of humour you know - quite another to come out with a "witty" aside like that in an interview when everyone involved ought to be on their best professional behaviour. If he wanted to know more, a more appropriate response would have been "Oh, that's interesting. How do you manage that?"
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« Reply #19929 on: March 06, 2018, 07:00:12 AM »
Do you have reason to believe he would have said something different if the genders were reversed? My coworkers would ask me if I married into money if I took off every other month too...

You are right; it's possible that this kind of thing might get said to both men and women. Maybe even at exactly the same rate. However, context matters. Women hear this against a wide catalog of assumptions in the workplace about marital status and support, in a way that men do not.

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« Reply #19930 on: March 06, 2018, 10:56:19 AM »
I work at a law firm.  All of the attorneys have six-figure incomes, but some are salaried whereas others are paid based on their actual billings, depending on how their agreement is set up with the firm. 

One of our newer attorneys has decades of experience working at big firms for clients with deep pockets. She loves to talk about all the crazy-high salaries she's had over the years, in excess of $300k/year at times. She sponsors local political campaigns, wears new clothing and expensive jewelry every day, must have a weekly salon haircut. She's on the track of "paid based on actual billings."

One month when some of her bills were held up going out to a client, she confessed to her assistant that if payment weren't made quickly, she'd have to declare bankruptcy. The next month (after the bills went out after all) she's buying a designer dog.

How often does these delays happens? Even without the, she has potential for providing us with a lot of entertainment!
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« Reply #19931 on: March 07, 2018, 06:31:07 AM »
Extracurricular academic classes are popular in China. Think along the lines of extra math classes, SAT prep classes, etc. Today, one of my coworkers told me that her teen attends these classes. Apparently, one of the kids in the class never attends class, and his parents have already spent over $100,000 over the course of the past three years on these types of classes to “get him ready” for applying to boarding school in the US. He is almost 19 and still “getting ready for (high school) boarding school”.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19932 on: March 07, 2018, 08:42:37 AM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

why? if he's a contract worker he has no authority. A jackass alone in the woods does not make real discrimination.

If it's a good company I would hope they would be mortified by his comment and not renew his contract. Being quiet about sexism helps.... who exactly???

The old guy is sexist and nothing will change his mind. You might be able to beat him into hiding it and make an enemy. Since he has no authority why not let him fade off into the sunset and OP never wastes a brain cycle on about him again? There will be some  flavor of jackasses at any job OP takes, so it ends up being a personal decision what types/levels of jackassery is tolerated in a new job.

seriously though, if she wants the job, she can't file an HR complaint before even getting it!

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« Reply #19933 on: March 07, 2018, 10:13:18 AM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

why? if he's a contract worker he has no authority. A jackass alone in the woods does not make real discrimination.

If it's a good company I would hope they would be mortified by his comment and not renew his contract. Being quiet about sexism helps.... who exactly???

The old guy is sexist and nothing will change his mind. You might be able to beat him into hiding it and make an enemy. Since he has no authority why not let him fade off into the sunset and OP never wastes a brain cycle on about him again? There will be some  flavor of jackasses at any job OP takes, so it ends up being a personal decision what types/levels of jackassery is tolerated in a new job.

seriously though, if she wants the job, she can't file an HR complaint before even getting it!

But... this is what FU money is for! So you don't have to put up with this kind of shit if you don't want to.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19934 on: March 07, 2018, 02:47:59 PM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

why? if he's a contract worker he has no authority. A jackass alone in the woods does not make real discrimination.

If it's a good company I would hope they would be mortified by his comment and not renew his contract. Being quiet about sexism helps.... who exactly???

The old guy is sexist and nothing will change his mind. You might be able to beat him into hiding it and make an enemy. Since he has no authority why not let him fade off into the sunset and OP never wastes a brain cycle on about him again? There will be some  flavor of jackasses at any job OP takes, so it ends up being a personal decision what types/levels of jackassery is tolerated in a new job.

seriously though, if she wants the job, she can't file an HR complaint before even getting it!

Why exactly is his comment sexist? The guys problem is that he's a consumer sucka and can't comprehend on you could live comfortably with those work assignments and assumes you must have outside financial assistance.  He could have just as easily replied "you win the lottery?", or "you have a trust fund?".  Having a rich spouse that supports you is far more likely though.

I guess I don't see how it's a super sexist comment.  Or why anyone would be mortified by the comment.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19935 on: March 07, 2018, 04:37:11 PM »
I recently interviewed for a Medical Imaging local job after being a Medical Imaging Contract Worker for two years. Contract working is ridiculously lucrative. A "cheap" job is netting $1700/week for 38 hours. I've gotten $2400/week for more like 44+ hours. I opted for three months of vacation the first year, and 5 months of vacation the second year, living off the excess from my contracts while doing and paying for my own house renovations during the time off. Also, omg, I hate full time work and I was mentally exhausted.

Anyway, back to the interview. The hospital has a Contract Worker in the department when we're doing our walk through. And we're doing the usual chit chat "are you social or a introverted mouth breather" back and forth thing when the contract worker asked where all I'd been.

I listed off Arkansas, Arizona, Michigan, Tennessee, and California.

"Where else?" he asks, expecting a far longer list for my two years of travel employment.

"Well, I went to the California place three times and I've had two assignments in Tennessee. But I guess my list is also short because I take at least a month off after every assignment."

This grey haired man, obviously in his 50s, makes a scoffing noise at me. Then asks, "What, got a rich husband?"

I blink at him in bewilderment for a split second, then get an edge of steel in my voice. "No. I'm the rich wife. I've always out earned every partner I've ever been with."

It strikes me later that this question didn't come just from a place of sexism. But from someone who didn' t know what the eff to be doing with the fire hose of cash that Travel Contract work provides. How is this gray haired man not rolling in it (or at least as wealthy as I am) if he's been doing it for LONGER @_@

I hope you reported this jackass to his HR department.

why? if he's a contract worker he has no authority. A jackass alone in the woods does not make real discrimination.

If it's a good company I would hope they would be mortified by his comment and not renew his contract. Being quiet about sexism helps.... who exactly???

The old guy is sexist and nothing will change his mind. You might be able to beat him into hiding it and make an enemy. Since he has no authority why not let him fade off into the sunset and OP never wastes a brain cycle on about him again? There will be some  flavor of jackasses at any job OP takes, so it ends up being a personal decision what types/levels of jackassery is tolerated in a new job.

seriously though, if she wants the job, she can't file an HR complaint before even getting it!

Why exactly is his comment sexist? The guys problem is that he's a consumer sucka and can't comprehend on you could live comfortably with those work assignments and assumes you must have outside financial assistance.  He could have just as easily replied "you win the lottery?", or "you have a trust fund?".  Having a rich spouse that supports you is far more likely though.

I guess I don't see how it's a super sexist comment.  Or why anyone would be mortified by the comment.

I don't really see it as super sexist either. All it really shows is that the guy is on the treadmill and kind of a dick. I've said in several interviews that I have the resources to be picky about my next job, and I've never had a single comment about it. Probably a bit telling about the company as a whole, given that he's the one interviewing!

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« Reply #19936 on: March 07, 2018, 05:58:22 PM »
Heard this recently coming from the young (25ish) guy sitting a few spots down from me, about looking for a new car:

"I would be happy having a payment of $250 every two weeks, even up to $300 would be fine...."  Then the real kicker "over SEVEN years"

I have no idea what this guy's financial situation is other than he makes around $55K per year for salary. 




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« Reply #19937 on: March 08, 2018, 08:23:13 AM »
*snip*
Why exactly is his comment sexist? The guys problem is that he's a consumer sucka and can't comprehend on you could live comfortably with those work assignments and assumes you must have outside financial assistance.  He could have just as easily replied "you win the lottery?", or "you have a trust fund?".  Having a rich spouse that supports you is far more likely though.

I guess I don't see how it's a super sexist comment.  Or why anyone would be mortified by the comment.

I don't really see it as super sexist either. All it really shows is that the guy is on the treadmill and kind of a dick. I've said in several interviews that I have the resources to be picky about my next job, and I've never had a single comment about it. Probably a bit telling about the company as a whole, given that he's the one interviewing!
It's not super sexist, and the reason he said it might be exactly the reasons you state.  He may even make the comment to as many men as women.  That being said, women probably hear it more often than men (in the US) though, so there is something uncomfortable about it to me. 

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« Reply #19938 on: March 08, 2018, 09:27:10 AM »
Heard this recently coming from the young (25ish) guy sitting a few spots down from me, about looking for a new car:

"I would be happy having a payment of $250 every two weeks, even up to $300 would be fine...."  Then the real kicker "over SEVEN years"

I have no idea what this guy's financial situation is other than he makes around $55K per year for salary.

Is reviewing reoccurring payments on a biweekly basis normal now? Or is this person simply running the numbers against their typical paycheck period?
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« Reply #19939 on: March 08, 2018, 04:07:04 PM »
Heard this recently coming from the young (25ish) guy sitting a few spots down from me, about looking for a new car:

"I would be happy having a payment of $250 every two weeks, even up to $300 would be fine...."  Then the real kicker "over SEVEN years"

I have no idea what this guy's financial situation is other than he makes around $55K per year for salary.

Is reviewing reoccurring payments on a biweekly basis normal now? Or is this person simply running the numbers against their typical paycheck period?

It's the common way that they are presented these days.  Soon, they will show it as "only $14 per day!"

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« Reply #19940 on: March 09, 2018, 03:15:17 AM »
Heard this recently coming from the young (25ish) guy sitting a few spots down from me, about looking for a new car:

"I would be happy having a payment of $250 every two weeks, even up to $300 would be fine...."  Then the real kicker "over SEVEN years"

I have no idea what this guy's financial situation is other than he makes around $55K per year for salary.

Is reviewing reoccurring payments on a biweekly basis normal now? Or is this person simply running the numbers against their typical paycheck period?

It's the common way that they are presented these days.  Soon, they will show it as "only $14 per day!"

I often compute expenses as daily. But to me, sometimes realizing I’m paying $2/day for a phone (or whatever, over it’s expected lifetime) makes me reconsider the purchase

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« Reply #19941 on: March 09, 2018, 09:45:00 AM »
Heard this recently coming from the young (25ish) guy sitting a few spots down from me, about looking for a new car:

"I would be happy having a payment of $250 every two weeks, even up to $300 would be fine...."  Then the real kicker "over SEVEN years"

I have no idea what this guy's financial situation is other than he makes around $55K per year for salary.

Is reviewing reoccurring payments on a biweekly basis normal now? Or is this person simply running the numbers against their typical paycheck period?

It's the common way that they are presented these days.  Soon, they will show it as "only $14 per day!"

I often compute expenses as daily. But to me, sometimes realizing I’m paying $2/day for a phone (or whatever, over it’s expected lifetime) makes me reconsider the purchase

I multiply all my expenses by 25x and then say to myself - am I willing to have to save up this much to have this as part of my long term lifestyle?

For example - new iPhone X (or whatever) - $1000 x 25 = $25,000 needs to be saved if I want a new one every year.  Or, if that's not realistic, then lets churn it every 3 years instead, so $1000/3 = $334.  $334 x 25 = $8350.  Am I willing to save up an additional $8350 in order to afford a new iPhone every 3 years?  Since I'm trying to FIRE asap, the answer is generally... no.
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« Reply #19942 on: March 09, 2018, 10:03:22 AM »
I multiply all my expenses by 25x and then say to myself - am I willing to have to save up this much to have this as part of my long term lifestyle?

For example - new iPhone X (or whatever) - $1000 x 25 = $25,000 needs to be saved if I want a new one every year.  Or, if that's not realistic, then lets churn it every 3 years instead, so $1000/3 = $334.  $334 x 25 = $8350.  Am I willing to save up an additional $8350 in order to afford a new iPhone every 3 years?  Since I'm trying to FIRE asap, the answer is generally... no.

I do the same, but then I convert it to how long I'd have to work to save up that amount.  For example cable, what do people pay nowadays for cable?  $80/month?  80*12*25 = $24,000.  If my savings rate is $2k/month, am I willing to work an extra year of my short life JUST to have cable?  Definitely not, but sometimes the cost of something in perpetuity is less than I'd expect, and I'll go 'I'll work 2 months to have that forever'.  Also with a really high savings rate (more than 2k/mo), the time to save for something forever is often not actually that long, so I have to be careful to avoid lifestyle creep.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19943 on: March 09, 2018, 12:58:09 PM »
This may seem dumb, but what do people have to talk about so much on their phones? When I was a teen and we had land lines I talked up a storm every single night to my best friend. We talked about boys and mean girls and stupid stuff like that. But what do adults talk so much about that they have to drive with their phones glued to their ears while driving or walking across a street and pay no attention to traffic? I see people who are driving out of their driveways first thing in the morning and are on their phones. I guess I just don't get it. If it were up to me I wouldn't even have a phone.  I like having it for emergencies and occasional calls and some of the features on the phone. What is the 24/7 attraction of the phone?

Maybe this was already answered, but I thought I'd share my perspective. I use my phone to talk to my family and two of my best friends. I call one person each day on my commute home and it helps me keep connected in their daily lives. My family is very emotionally close but geographically spread out and we're not into social media, so it would be hard to connect without our weekly phone calls. The phone is a critical piece of infrastructure for my family. I don't feel attached to it as a tech gadget though, it's just a means to an end for me.
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« Reply #19944 on: March 09, 2018, 01:30:00 PM »
When I first started my previous job I had an older coworker who kept bragging to me about her amazing car. She was as proud of her car as she was bitter about not being anywhere near retirement-ready at 62. Amazing car was the top of the line Ford Taurus with suede seats and terrible gas mileage despite her 30 mile one-way commute. I couldn't even believe someone with such a brutal commute (an hour with no traffic in the morning, 2 hours plus guaranteed in the afternoon) would have such a gas guzzler for a car but it was her baby and her identity.

Imagine my surprise when I heard her on the phone with her car finance company telling them she took out a 401K loan to pay out their loan because she'd defaulted so many time she was afraid they'd repo the car. The car was 4 years old!
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« Reply #19945 on: March 09, 2018, 01:45:28 PM »
When I first started my previous job I had an older coworker who kept bragging to me about her amazing car. She was as proud of her car as she was bitter about not being anywhere near retirement-ready at 62. Amazing car was the top of the line Ford Taurus with suede seats and terrible gas mileage despite her 30 mile one-way commute. I couldn't even believe someone with such a brutal commute (an hour with no traffic in the morning, 2 hours plus guaranteed in the afternoon) would have such a gas guzzler for a car but it was her baby and her identity.

Imagine my surprise when I heard her on the phone with her car finance company telling them she took out a 401K loan to pay out their loan because she'd defaulted so many time she was afraid they'd repo the car. The car was 4 years old!

I mean...really...a Ford Taurus?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19946 on: March 09, 2018, 01:47:09 PM »
This may seem dumb, but what do people have to talk about so much on their phones? When I was a teen and we had land lines I talked up a storm every single night to my best friend. We talked about boys and mean girls and stupid stuff like that. But what do adults talk so much about that they have to drive with their phones glued to their ears while driving or walking across a street and pay no attention to traffic? I see people who are driving out of their driveways first thing in the morning and are on their phones. I guess I just don't get it. If it were up to me I wouldn't even have a phone.  I like having it for emergencies and occasional calls and some of the features on the phone. What is the 24/7 attraction of the phone?

Maybe this was already answered, but I thought I'd share my perspective. I use my phone to talk to my family and two of my best friends. I call one person each day on my commute home and it helps me keep connected in their daily lives. My family is very emotionally close but geographically spread out and we're not into social media, so it would be hard to connect without our weekly phone calls. The phone is a critical piece of infrastructure for my family. I don't feel attached to it as a tech gadget though, it's just a means to an end for me.

I hope you use a hands free device when you are talking. Driving is not to be taken lightly. It is a very big responsibility and I am sure you wouldn't want to kill someone. I have followed people who are talking on their phones while driving and they are all over the road. I have almost gotten hit head on too many times to count with careless drivers talking on the phone.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19947 on: March 09, 2018, 02:13:55 PM »
When I first started my previous job I had an older coworker who kept bragging to me about her amazing car. She was as proud of her car as she was bitter about not being anywhere near retirement-ready at 62. Amazing car was the top of the line Ford Taurus with suede seats and terrible gas mileage despite her 30 mile one-way commute. I couldn't even believe someone with such a brutal commute (an hour with no traffic in the morning, 2 hours plus guaranteed in the afternoon) would have such a gas guzzler for a car but it was her baby and her identity.

Imagine my surprise when I heard her on the phone with her car finance company telling them she took out a 401K loan to pay out their loan because she'd defaulted so many time she was afraid they'd repo the car. The car was 4 years old!
I mean...really...a Ford Taurus?

You'd think it was a Ferrari the way she bragged about it. I couldn't believe anyone who drove 60 miles+ daily would buy a car that got 15mpg , 20mpg if she was lucky.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19948 on: March 09, 2018, 02:30:50 PM »
When I first started my previous job I had an older coworker who kept bragging to me about her amazing car. She was as proud of her car as she was bitter about not being anywhere near retirement-ready at 62. Amazing car was the top of the line Ford Taurus with suede seats and terrible gas mileage despite her 30 mile one-way commute. I couldn't even believe someone with such a brutal commute (an hour with no traffic in the morning, 2 hours plus guaranteed in the afternoon) would have such a gas guzzler for a car but it was her baby and her identity.

Imagine my surprise when I heard her on the phone with her car finance company telling them she took out a 401K loan to pay out their loan because she'd defaulted so many time she was afraid they'd repo the car. The car was 4 years old!

I mean...really...a Ford Taurus?

You'd think it was a Ferrari the way she bragged about it. I couldn't believe anyone who drove 60 miles+ daily would buy a car that got 15mpg , 20mpg if she was lucky.

Which Taurus gets that bad of fuel economy? I'm seeing numbers ranging from 20/29 to 16/24 mpg (city/hwy). The latter is the turbocharged six-cylinder model with AWD.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #19949 on: March 09, 2018, 04:02:25 PM »
I multiply all my expenses by 25x and then say to myself - am I willing to have to save up this much to have this as part of my long term lifestyle?

For example - new iPhone X (or whatever) - $1000 x 25 = $25,000 needs to be saved if I want a new one every year.  Or, if that's not realistic, then lets churn it every 3 years instead, so $1000/3 = $334.  $334 x 25 = $8350.  Am I willing to save up an additional $8350 in order to afford a new iPhone every 3 years?  Since I'm trying to FIRE asap, the answer is generally... no.

I do the same, but then I convert it to how long I'd have to work to save up that amount.  For example cable, what do people pay nowadays for cable?  $80/month?  80*12*25 = $24,000.  If my savings rate is $2k/month, am I willing to work an extra year of my short life JUST to have cable?  Definitely not, but sometimes the cost of something in perpetuity is less than I'd expect, and I'll go 'I'll work 2 months to have that forever'.  Also with a really high savings rate (more than 2k/mo), the time to save for something forever is often not actually that long, so I have to be careful to avoid lifestyle creep.

If you aren't right at FIRE you need to tack on that many years to your 25.  Eg if you're 5 years away, multiply by 30 (25+5).  You've got to pay for it now while you're working while saving up for having it in FIRE.