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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18900 on: October 12, 2017, 11:51:10 AM »
Still, what we need most of all is a political union in Europe, similar to the US. We shouldn't have to be afraid to lose our national identity: American states have clear identities, as well as having a national identity, and they are all in one federation. We can (and should) give the federal states a lot of political freedom at the state level, but we need one federal government for economic, military and foreign policy issues. One head of state. One office to carry the ultimate responsibility.

I don't think this is as apt a comparison you might imagine. Americans as a group have grown together as a nation first with states second. I'm originally from Illinois and now live in California with family in Texas. My parents are from Indiana and Wisconsin. We shed our state identities easily and don't adopt our parents. I think this is what scares Europeans looking to the US as an example of unifying Europe. After all, I don't consider myself a "Hoosier" (person from Indiana) even though my Dad is from there and I lived there for a few years. Imagine a Frenchman with a daughter who doesn't consider herself French. That is a much bigger deal in Europe where national identities have such a long history.

The exceptions are the places with the most contention:
Texas - Was the Republic of Texas for a short time
Hawaii - Was a monarchy prior to statehood
Puerto Rico - Currently a territory with debate about whether statehood matches the cultural identity

These three places might be the best example of what Europe would look like if they were to unify as you suggest. They are not all examples of sunshine and roses.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18901 on: October 12, 2017, 11:53:40 AM »
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One of my co-workers wants me to get a sweater from LL Bean, retail $100. But it's okay, I can just return it in a few months, after winter, when it's no longer in season.

Like...do people regularly do this? He seems to do it all the time. He just returned a belt he got a few years ago because he decided he didn't like the style anymore. He regularly buys shirts and tie clips and ties and the like for formal wedding or events and returns them after the weekend. I...don't get this?
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The hilarious part about this is that I am willing to stake money that someone in this forum somewhere does this regularly and would count it as a mustachian, money-saving life pro-tip xD

My achilles heel is related to buying stuff at Canadian Tire.   And returning it 3+ months later.   I just found out that my local store refuses to return anything without a receipt now (even for last sale price on a gift card), and anything over 90 days old.  I missed the deadline by 3 days.  I have been lazy and just put the items on the shelf, and return in a batch about 3x per year..  Their policy changed and I lost out on $50 on what USED TO BE A GREAT MMM TIP!

So what I am I constantly returning? My last trip to the return counter...
a)  The replacement coil for the stove top for my aunt's summer place - it did not do the trick and when I got it back from her after 6 weeks, I went on vacation and did not get it back to the store promptly.
b) oil filter -- l had looked up the one for my car model instore, but mixed it up and got the one for a different engine.
c) oil filter wrench -- so I ended up taking my car to the get repaired and no longer want the wrench, either.
d) Lamp socket replacement -- wrong size, lamp still sitting the garage.

etc.   Home depot's return policy is much better, but they don't have the same amount of car parts and household goods.

I sure hope you did not mean that you friend used the items then returned them??!

ETA:  Damn quotes. Fixed.?
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18902 on: October 12, 2017, 11:58:00 AM »

On-Topic:
One of my co-workers wants me to get a sweater from LL Bean, retail $100. But it's okay, I can just return it in a few months, after winter, when it's no longer in season.

Like...do people regularly do this? He seems to do it all the time. He just returned a belt he got a few years ago because he decided he didn't like the style anymore. He regularly buys shirts and tie clips and ties and the like for formal wedding or events and returns them after the weekend. I...don't get this?
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The hilarious part about this is that I am willing to stake money that someone in this forum somewhere does this regularly and would count it as a mustachian, money-saving life pro-tip xD

My achilles heel is related to buying stuff at Canadian Tire.   And returning it 3+ months later.   I just found out that my local store refuses to return anything without a receipt now (even for last sale price on a gift card), and anything over 90 days old.  I missed the deadline by 3 days.  I have been lazy and just put the items on the shelf, and return in a batch about 3x per year..  Their policy changed and I lost out on $50 on what USED TO BE A GREAT MMM TIP!

So what I am I constantly returning? My last trip to the return counter...
a)  The replacement coil for the stove top for my aunt's summer place - it did not do the trick and when I got it back from her after 6 weeks, I went on vacation and did not get it back to the store promptly.
b) oil filter -- l had looked up the one for my car model instore, but mixed it up and got the one for a different engine.
c) oil filter wrench -- so I ended up taking my car to the get repaired and no longer want the wrench, either.
d) Lamp socket replacement -- wrong size, lamp still sitting the garage.

etc.   Home depot's return policy is much better, but they don't have the same amount of car parts and household goods.

I sure hope you did not mean that you friend used the items then returned them??!

I think both Beta and Imma are complaining about people who do exactly that. BiomedicalDJ is clearly returning unused merchandise that is still in season and that can legitimately be sold as new to somebody else.

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« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 02:36:42 PM by TheGrimSqueaker »
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18903 on: October 12, 2017, 12:11:32 PM »
This guy definitely uses the items and returns them. He bought a hole saw recently, used it to chew through two doors, and then returned it. Also broke during use (likely due to user error), but he was going to return it regardless.

Dude seems kinda unethical in general. His boss is out this week, so he decided to take half-days every day. I...doubt this was cleared with the boss before-hand.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18904 on: October 12, 2017, 12:22:35 PM »
This guy definitely uses the items and returns them. He bought a hole saw recently, used it to chew through two doors, and then returned it. Also broke during use (likely due to user error), but he was going to return it regardless.

Dude seems kinda unethical in general. His boss is out this week, so he decided to take half-days every day. I...doubt this was cleared with the boss before-hand.

Don't know if this leads to more work than you, but yeah if that happened at my work it would be reported (small office with only a few other employees so this would be noticed). I personally hate people like your coworker, my guess is that he is a shitbag to the retail employees that he cons to returns the items and then thinks that he's a genius when he's bragging about it to his friends. Yes, I made a lot of assumptions here.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18905 on: October 12, 2017, 12:45:00 PM »
This guy definitely uses the items and returns them. He bought a hole saw recently, used it to chew through two doors, and then returned it. Also broke during use (likely due to user error), but he was going to return it regardless.

Dude seems kinda unethical in general. His boss is out this week, so he decided to take half-days every day. I...doubt this was cleared with the boss before-hand.

Don't know if this leads to more work than you, but yeah if that happened at my work it would be reported (small office with only a few other employees so this would be noticed). I personally hate people like your coworker, my guess is that he is a shitbag to the retail employees that he cons to returns the items and then thinks that he's a genius when he's bragging about it to his friends. Yes, I made a lot of assumptions here.
There are assumptions and there are extrapolations.  I think you extrapolated provided data.  If someone is an ass in front of you, he's also likely as ass away from you.

Liberal return policies are useful for a lot of people.  Maybe they don't want to try it on in the store, or with another outfit they have at home, or order online, or for someone who isn't there.  Buy it, see if it works out as intended, and when it doesn't return it.  People will buy $100's of stuff and return half of it, but they still probably spent more than they would have with no return policy.  But most of this is returned without it really being used.

There are a lot more people like that than there are that "abuse" the policy.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18906 on: October 12, 2017, 01:44:45 PM »

On-Topic:
One of my co-workers wants me to get a sweater from LL Bean, retail $100. But it's okay, I can just return it in a few months, after winter, when it's no longer in season.

Like...do people regularly do this? He seems to do it all the time. He just returned a belt he got a few years ago because he decided he didn't like the style anymore. He regularly buys shirts and tie clips and ties and the like for formal wedding or events and returns them after the weekend. I...don't get this?

The hilarious part about this is that I am willing to stake money that someone in this forum somewhere does this regularly and would count it as a mustachian, money-saving life pro-tip xD

I would never buy something with the premeditated intention of using then retiring it.  But I have no qualms about returning things Iím genuinely unhappy with, and if that item or store has a ďlifetime guarantee,Ē then I have no problem returning it years later if it fails.  I figure Iím paying a markup high enough to compensate the retailer for this.

Things Iíve returned:

ď20 yearĒ Led bulbs that failed after a few years
An air mattress that leaked after three years (only a few uses) to bed bath and beyond
Food from Costco that molded within 1-2 days
Clothes to places like banana republic when I didnít like the fit, I found a flaw, or they shrank in the wash (was told they were preshrunk)
Tools to Home Depot that broke (not user error) or didnít do the job/fit (they expect this)

I think itís pretty reasonable.  I definitely keep all my Costco receipts for expensive stuff that I may need to return after itís short warranty period expires, although itís never happened so far for anything particularly expensive

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18907 on: October 12, 2017, 02:25:26 PM »

On-Topic:
One of my co-workers wants me to get a sweater from LL Bean, retail $100. But it's okay, I can just return it in a few months, after winter, when it's no longer in season.

Like...do people regularly do this? He seems to do it all the time. He just returned a belt he got a few years ago because he decided he didn't like the style anymore. He regularly buys shirts and tie clips and ties and the like for formal wedding or events and returns them after the weekend. I...don't get this?

The hilarious part about this is that I am willing to stake money that someone in this forum somewhere does this regularly and would count it as a mustachian, money-saving life pro-tip xD

I would never buy something with the premeditated intention of using then retiring it.  But I have no qualms about returning things Iím genuinely unhappy with, and if that item or store has a ďlifetime guarantee,Ē then I have no problem returning it years later if it fails.  I figure Iím paying a markup high enough to compensate the retailer for this.

Things Iíve returned:

ď20 yearĒ Led bulbs that failed after a few years
An air mattress that leaked after three years (only a few uses) to bed bath and beyond
Food from Costco that molded within 1-2 days
Clothes to places like banana republic when I didnít like the fit, I found a flaw, or they shrank in the wash (was told they were preshrunk)
Tools to Home Depot that broke (not user error) or didnít do the job/fit (they expect this)

I think itís pretty reasonable.  I definitely keep all my Costco receipts for expensive stuff that I may need to return after itís short warranty period expires, although itís never happened so far for anything particularly expensive

eh?

https://www.costco.com/member-privileges-conditions.html

"Short warranty period" and "Costco" don't really go together.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18908 on: October 12, 2017, 03:05:12 PM »
This guy definitely uses the items and returns them. He bought a hole saw recently, used it to chew through two doors, and then returned it. Also broke during use (likely due to user error), but he was going to return it regardless.

Dude seems kinda unethical in general. His boss is out this week, so he decided to take half-days every day. I...doubt this was cleared with the boss before-hand.

Don't know if this leads to more work than you, but yeah if that happened at my work it would be reported (small office with only a few other employees so this would be noticed). I personally hate people like your coworker, my guess is that he is a shitbag to the retail employees that he cons to returns the items and then thinks that he's a genius when he's bragging about it to his friends. Yes, I made a lot of assumptions here.
Ha, well, you aren't entirely off-base. I've been with him on his returns a couple times, and the stores normally put up no fuss. They have quite generous return policies.

The way he talks about it, he seems to think it's perfectly normal. He doesn't talk about it any differently than he talks about getting lunch or what kind of housework needs done.

He DOES have a braggadocious personality in general. And he is somewhat curt to people he does not like, and describes interactions with them in a highly manipulative, commanding manner. He's an above average employee, but it doesn't seem like management is overly fond of him...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18909 on: October 12, 2017, 05:15:00 PM »
On returning worn items...

I bought new running shoes recently (well, they're technically a birthday gift from my husband since I need them but don't want to break my streak of more than 12 months without buying shoes).

Went for a run in them and I could tell they just didn't suit my feet. I had tried them on, of course, but the arch support that was fine in the shop was painful after a couple of kays.

I was totally upfront about having worn them, and exchanged them for a different pair (which happened to be cheaper) and a gift card.

Renting items by buying them, knowing full well you intend to return them, is such a dick move.

Anyone else remember the archaic concept of appro?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18910 on: October 12, 2017, 05:44:49 PM »
... bitching about Wal-Groceries...

Highly recommend Aldi. It sounds like if there's one that's within a 30min drive it may be quicker for you to do that. I'm usually in/out with a week or two of groceries in 15min.

I'd like to try Aldi's but according to their on-line tool the closest one to me is 473.27 miles away by air. That's a little more than the distance from London to Geneva, and a little less than the distance between Milan and Sarajevo.

The self-checkout lines work for mainstream items that don't require adult assistance, if and only if the receipt paper is filled regularly, the card-reader device is functional, and they're amply stocked with cash (for making change from cash transactions). None of those three assumptions is necessarily valid. New Mexico is like living in Ayn Rand's wet dream, but with more gun violence.

I don't get Aldi's. The prepared food tends to be cheaper, but the ingredients tend to be more expensive. I can get pasta and milk consistently cheaper, often eggs as well.

This has a good breakdown of what is and isn't a better deal--at least in the Midwest. https://www.mashupmom.com/who-has-cheaper-grocery-prices-walmart-or-aldi/

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18911 on: October 12, 2017, 06:16:58 PM »

Tools to Home Depot that broke (not user error) or didnít do the job/fit (they expect this)

I once returned some sort of a "dustless" drywall sander to HD since it was neither dustless nor much of a sander. The high school aged girl at the return counter walked up and said, "oh, so you are done with this?". I gave her a hard stare and said, "why would you ask me that?". She then realized that accusing a random customer of unethically buying, using and returning tools after the job is done, wasn't a good idea. OTOH, after playing it over in my head, I realized that she probably has so many scumbags returning stuff, after the job is done, that she was just handing another of dozens a week, and doesn't really care one way of another.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18912 on: October 12, 2017, 11:24:00 PM »

Tools to Home Depot that broke (not user error) or didnít do the job/fit (they expect this)

I once returned some sort of a "dustless" drywall sander to HD since it was neither dustless nor much of a sander. The high school aged girl at the return counter walked up and said, "oh, so you are done with this?". I gave her a hard stare and said, "why would you ask me that?". She then realized that accusing a random customer of unethically buying, using and returning tools after the job is done, wasn't a good idea. OTOH, after playing it over in my head, I realized that she probably has so many scumbags returning stuff, after the job is done, that she was just handing another of dozens a week, and doesn't really care one way of another.

The minimum wage employees absolutely donít care, but Iíll still rent the tool if I know I only need it for a day

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18913 on: October 13, 2017, 02:41:03 PM »
My shopping list is written in the order that things are laid out in my regular supermarket.


Not only that, but there are 4 different supermarkets within a 5 min walk radius. I know he's aware of the concept since he sometimes goes to buy a post-lunch snack at the supermarket by work.

WTF? A post-lunch snack? A snack, for after lunch, which is a meal, at which food is consumed? Seriously? He should try eating actual nutrition for lunch and see if that makes a difference to hunger levels.

wait wait. Hold the phone. I have 2 snacks every day usually. One between breakfast and lunch and one between lunch and dinner. Don't go dissin on the snacks! I like to forage. I don't like to stuff myself. I eat lots of vegetables, so I get hungry often.

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« Reply #18914 on: October 13, 2017, 02:44:37 PM »
Just went and got lunch out of the fridge. In there is a store bought pack of hard boiled eggs (non-organic, I looked). 6 for $3.99

For comparison, I bought a dozen eggs for 34 cents.

Where on Earth is this possible? Best I've seen is with a special coupon at Safeway, 0.99$ as a loss leader. I think usually they are 1.99. Organic/cage free/whatever are in the 4.99 - 8.99/dozen range.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18915 on: October 14, 2017, 01:40:02 AM »
My shopping list is written in the order that things are laid out in my regular supermarket.


Not only that, but there are 4 different supermarkets within a 5 min walk radius. I know he's aware of the concept since he sometimes goes to buy a post-lunch snack at the supermarket by work.

WTF? A post-lunch snack? A snack, for after lunch, which is a meal, at which food is consumed? Seriously? He should try eating actual nutrition for lunch and see if that makes a difference to hunger levels.

wait wait. Hold the phone. I have 2 snacks every day usually. One between breakfast and lunch and one between lunch and dinner. Don't go dissin on the snacks! I like to forage. I don't like to stuff myself. I eat lots of vegetables, so I get hungry often.

I'm loving snacks in general, and a mid-afternoon snack is fine. But a snack right after lunch is weird to me. If you need a snack right after lunch then you're doing lunch wrong.

Second breakfasts are fine. 9am is a perfectly reasonable time for a breakfast, so is 6am, and three hours is a reasonable time between meals.

I think we're good HoneyBBQ?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18916 on: October 14, 2017, 08:30:01 PM »
Just went and got lunch out of the fridge. In there is a store bought pack of hard boiled eggs (non-organic, I looked). 6 for $3.99

For comparison, I bought a dozen eggs for 34 cents.

Where on Earth is this possible? Best I've seen is with a special coupon at Safeway, 0.99$ as a loss leader. I think usually they are 1.99. Organic/cage free/whatever are in the 4.99 - 8.99/dozen range.

Aldi's near me has been running <40cents/dozen recently.

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« Reply #18917 on: October 14, 2017, 09:31:12 PM »
Just went and got lunch out of the fridge. In there is a store bought pack of hard boiled eggs (non-organic, I looked). 6 for $3.99

For comparison, I bought a dozen eggs for 34 cents.

Where on Earth is this possible? Best I've seen is with a special coupon at Safeway, 0.99$ as a loss leader. I think usually they are 1.99. Organic/cage free/whatever are in the 4.99 - 8.99/dozen range.

Aldi's near me has been running <40cents/dozen recently.

What conditions do you suppose those chickens live in, if they can sell their eggs so cheaply?

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« Reply #18918 on: October 15, 2017, 12:24:29 AM »
Just went and got lunch out of the fridge. In there is a store bought pack of hard boiled eggs (non-organic, I looked). 6 for $3.99

For comparison, I bought a dozen eggs for 34 cents.

Where on Earth is this possible? Best I've seen is with a special coupon at Safeway, 0.99$ as a loss leader. I think usually they are 1.99. Organic/cage free/whatever are in the 4.99 - 8.99/dozen range.

Aldi's near me has been running <40cents/dozen recently.

What conditions do you suppose those chickens live in, if they can sell their eggs so cheaply?
At this price, I am not sure if they are even alive. Or chickens, come to that.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18919 on: October 15, 2017, 09:17:24 AM »
Age 40, a girl works in my team - this is a regular conversation overheard...

"I have 25 Dollars left in my bank account. Boy, did we have a busy weekend"

Its non-stop eating out, cocktails, trips away.

This girl still lives in a shared rental, puts nothing extra away each month into a pension.
Her plan is to find a rich older guy, who will come with a house. WTF?
Is this a common theme? I know a few other people like this.


p.s. I get this from friends a lotÖ

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18920 on: October 15, 2017, 11:09:41 AM »
Just went and got lunch out of the fridge. In there is a store bought pack of hard boiled eggs (non-organic, I looked). 6 for $3.99

For comparison, I bought a dozen eggs for 34 cents.

Where on Earth is this possible? Best I've seen is with a special coupon at Safeway, 0.99$ as a loss leader. I think usually they are 1.99. Organic/cage free/whatever are in the 4.99 - 8.99/dozen range.

Aldi's near me has been running <40cents/dozen recently.

What conditions do you suppose those chickens live in, if they can sell their eggs so cheaply?

Regardless, the hard boiled eggs are coming from the same chickens.

But part of the reason for the low price is high supply. Hens are super productive due to breeding, and after the avian flu high prices caused many more farms in my state to turn to chickens. Now there are too many hens laying.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18921 on: October 15, 2017, 02:15:47 PM »
Age 40, a girl works in my team - this is a regular conversation overheard...

"I have 25 Dollars left in my bank account. Boy, did we have a busy weekend"

Its non-stop eating out, cocktails, trips away.

This girl still lives in a shared rental, puts nothing extra away each month into a pension.
Her plan is to find a rich older guy, who will come with a house. WTF?
Is this a common theme? I know a few other people like this.

Is she that good looking? Seems pretty risky because isn't it the old joke that a healthy single man in a nursing home is bombarded with women since they die off first leaving tons of women?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18922 on: October 15, 2017, 04:14:56 PM »
Age 40, a girl works in my team - this is a regular conversation overheard...

"I have 25 Dollars left in my bank account. Boy, did we have a busy weekend"

Its non-stop eating out, cocktails, trips away.

This girl still lives in a shared rental, puts nothing extra away each month into a pension.
Her plan is to find a rich older guy, who will come with a house. WTF?
Is this a common theme? I know a few other people like this.

I have $20 in my bank account right now. I keep my money in other types of accounts where I can't access it as easily, because I'm not a natural saver.

I think she might be a tad old for the rich older guy fantasy crap.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18923 on: October 15, 2017, 05:08:43 PM »

I think she might be a tad old for the rich older guy fantasy crap.

Any time the topic of a woman being too old to trap a man comes up, I always this of an episode of NCIS, and chuckle, There is a scene where an older lady is aggressively hitting on Agent DiNozzo. After she leaves the room, he says to his colleagues,  "That's what they call a "Turkey Vulture." 20 years past a cougar - still likes to hunt but can't take down the prey."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18924 on: October 15, 2017, 05:37:37 PM »

I think she might be a tad old for the rich older guy fantasy crap.

Any time the topic of a woman being too old to trap a man comes up, I always this of an episode of NCIS, and chuckle, There is a scene where an older lady is aggressively hitting on Agent DiNozzo. After she leaves the room, he says to his colleagues,  "That's what they call a "Turkey Vulture." 20 years past a cougar - still likes to hunt but can't take down the prey."

hahhaha, love it.

Just to be clear, I meant that she was too old for the fantasy. I did not mean to suggest that 40 year old women cannot "bring down prey". Hell, I'm a post 40 woman myself!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18925 on: October 15, 2017, 05:57:24 PM »

I think she might be a tad old for the rich older guy fantasy crap.

Any time the topic of a woman being too old to trap a man comes up, I always this of an episode of NCIS, and chuckle, There is a scene where an older lady is aggressively hitting on Agent DiNozzo. After she leaves the room, he says to his colleagues,  "That's what they call a "Turkey Vulture." 20 years past a cougar - still likes to hunt but can't take down the prey."

NCIS references on MMM? Oh, this is Marty's happy place! More cricket talk and a Vegemite sandwich and he'll never leave!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18926 on: October 16, 2017, 06:19:06 AM »
Age 40, a girl works in my team - this is a regular conversation overheard...

"I have 25 Dollars left in my bank account. Boy, did we have a busy weekend"

Its non-stop eating out, cocktails, trips away.

This girl still lives in a shared rental, puts nothing extra away each month into a pension.
Her plan is to find a rich older guy, who will come with a house. WTF?
Is this a common theme? I know a few other people like this.

Yes, at my workplace, we have several junior staff whose life goal is to find a wealthy foreigner who will take care of them for the rest of their life. The amount of money that they spend to make themselves beautiful is ridiculous. One of them recently quit her job because she started living with her foreigner boyfriend...no mention of how he was cheating on his wife with her, but of course theirs is true love and will last forever...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18927 on: October 16, 2017, 06:25:08 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18928 on: October 16, 2017, 09:55:22 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.

I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18929 on: October 16, 2017, 10:00:45 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.

I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.

Well, to be honest, I'd probably sell (attempt at least) more stuff on craigslist if I had staff to do the legwork for me.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18930 on: October 16, 2017, 10:13:22 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.
I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.
Well, to be honest, I'd probably sell (attempt at least) more stuff on craigslist if I had staff to do the legwork for me.

You're all assuming that the seller was the employer of the chauffeur, rather than the chauffeur selling the stuff that a more wasteful family are chucking out. I love the idea of the Lego sitting in the back of a Benz with a little Lego glass of champagne and a little Lego cigar.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18931 on: October 16, 2017, 10:49:55 AM »


Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.
I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.
Well, to be honest, I'd probably sell (attempt at least) more stuff on craigslist if I had staff to do the legwork for me.

You're all assuming that the seller was the employer of the chauffeur, rather than the chauffeur selling the stuff that a more wasteful family are chucking out. I love the idea of the Lego sitting in the back of a Benz with a little Lego glass of champagne and a little Lego cigar.

Yeah I immediately assumed it was the chaffeaur selling it (I thought his own stuff, not the rich people that he worked for's stuff), and he was just on his way to/from the job and dropped off something  he was selling. 
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18932 on: October 16, 2017, 10:52:31 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.
I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.
Well, to be honest, I'd probably sell (attempt at least) more stuff on craigslist if I had staff to do the legwork for me.

You're all assuming that the seller was the employer of the chauffeur, rather than the chauffeur selling the stuff that a more wasteful family are chucking out. I love the idea of the Lego sitting in the back of a Benz with a little Lego glass of champagne and a little Lego cigar.

I considered it, but liked the thought of a rich family selling their used lego. After your post I changed my mind.

My preferred reality, in descending order of preference:

3. Driver side-gig

2. Rich family selling. Mom takes photos while dad makes tonight's home made dinner.

1. Lego is FIRE, doing work away travel between different households. Currently doing 6 months with Freedomin5, is considering another 6 months with a Portuguese family next.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18933 on: October 16, 2017, 10:58:13 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.

I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.

If they can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, they definitely don't want prospective Craigslist buyers sniffing around their home. Most buyers are honest, but it takes only one to fake an interest in buying a product only to scope a home out for subsequent burglary.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18934 on: October 17, 2017, 08:31:10 AM »
Not really overheard at work, but ridiculously anti-Mustachian nonetheless.

Today I bought something off Craigslist. The seller offered to deliver it at no charge to me, so I accepted. The used goods were delivered to my door by a uniformed chauffeur in a Benz. I didn't know Legos needed to be transported in such luxury with such care.
I kind of love this. They can afford a uniformed chauffeur and a Benz, but instead of simply throwing the lego away they sell it for someone else to use.
Well, to be honest, I'd probably sell (attempt at least) more stuff on craigslist if I had staff to do the legwork for me.

You're all assuming that the seller was the employer of the chauffeur, rather than the chauffeur selling the stuff that a more wasteful family are chucking out. I love the idea of the Lego sitting in the back of a Benz with a little Lego glass of champagne and a little Lego cigar.

I considered it, but liked the thought of a rich family selling their used lego. After your post I changed my mind.

My preferred reality, in descending order of preference:

3. Driver side-gig

2. Rich family selling. Mom takes photos while dad makes tonight's home made dinner.

1. Lego is FIRE, doing work away travel between different households. Currently doing 6 months with Freedomin5, is considering another 6 months with a Portuguese family next.

Hah! I actually have no idea, but I suspect it was the rich family. It was about $200-300 worth of barely used Lego. And the chauffeur didn't ask for payment. Also, chauffeur didn't speak English, whereas I had been communicating with seller in English.

Though your #1 is not far off from the truth. Lego will probably make its way to a Chinese family within the next couple years.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18935 on: October 17, 2017, 08:43:20 AM »
*snip*

Hah! I actually have no idea, but I suspect it was the rich family. It was about $200-300 worth of barely used Lego. And the chauffeur didn't ask for payment. I transferred the money using Alipay (kind of like PayPal) to the seller with whom I had been in contact.

Though your #1 is not far off from the truth. Lego will probably make its way to a Chinese family within the next couple years.

Those little bricks are the most durable things; I have never seen any that looked obviously used.  Į\_(ツ)_/Į
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18936 on: October 17, 2017, 08:51:13 AM »
Those little bricks are the most durable things; I have never seen any that looked obviously used.  Į\_(ツ)_/Į

I have several hundred lego/duplo blocks in my house with visible wear. Granted, that's out of several thousand individual blocks, most of which are on their fourth and fifth child owner, but it does happen.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18937 on: October 17, 2017, 08:53:36 AM »
Sorry...my previous posts kind of derailed this thread a bit. Let's get it back on track...

Today, at work, my coworker was talking about doing some kind of run for charity, where each of the team members need to raise a minimum amount. She said that most of her team was unable to raise the minimum (about $150). The sad thing is that all of them spend at least that much every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday at the bar getting smashed.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18938 on: October 17, 2017, 10:37:01 AM »
Also, I had a coworker openly admit that he spends $800/month on weed. (And by the way lives paycheck to paycheck)

Where are you? I work in the industry and sell to a head shop that's run by 2 very smart brothers that smoke A TON and neither of them spend more than $400 a month. Either he's getting ripped off or is doing something else wrong.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18939 on: October 17, 2017, 11:04:54 AM »
Yesterday (Monday), I came into work and saw that they were re-paving parts of the parking lot.  Because I like my car and realize that paving operations need a wide berth, I moved my car to a completely different parking lot.

Me to CW:  Wow, I didn't realize that they were doing work today.  I moved my car so that it wouldn't get damaged.
CW: Yeah, they started on Friday, but we weren't told that we needed to park elsewhere in the notice from property management.  **proceeds to pull out phone** look at this damage that the contactor caused to my car...
Me: **looks at phone and sees baseball sized mark on her car**
CW:  I came in the morning and yelled at the contractor demanding that he pay to fix me car, but he denies that he caused the damage
Me:  You should file an insurance claim
CW:  I can't because, I can't afford the $250 deductible to get the car fixed

...then it all goes down about 30 minutes later.  CW runs by me saying that the husband is there to fight the contractor since he is denying that he caused the damage.  The husband pulls up like a bat out of hell and storms the contractor wielding a large wrench.  The police are called and CW and husband almost get arrested. ....All because they couldn't afford the $250 deductible to fix the car (which BTW would get paid back to them when their insurance company subrogated back to the contractor's insurance).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18940 on: October 17, 2017, 11:57:16 AM »
*snip*

Hah! I actually have no idea, but I suspect it was the rich family. It was about $200-300 worth of barely used Lego. And the chauffeur didn't ask for payment. I transferred the money using Alipay (kind of like PayPal) to the seller with whom I had been in contact.

Though your #1 is not far off from the truth. Lego will probably make its way to a Chinese family within the next couple years.

Those little bricks are the most durable things; I have never seen any that looked obviously used.  Į\_(ツ)_/Į
Come to my house, you'll find some that are worn.  Then again, we have the Lego that my husband had as a child (half his family is from Denmark) and he's pushing 50.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18941 on: October 17, 2017, 01:27:01 PM »
Also, I had a coworker openly admit that he spends $800/month on weed. (And by the way lives paycheck to paycheck)

Where are you? I work in the industry and sell to a head shop that's run by 2 very smart brothers that smoke A TON and neither of them spend more than $400 a month. Either he's getting ripped off or is doing something else wrong.

Friend of mine smokes way more than $800/month.  I'd estimate closer to $2k, but I don't really want to know, because he's also paycheck to paycheck.  Super high tolerance and desire to be high 24/7 costs a lot.  Wake up, dab, eat 60mg edible, breakfast, dab more, roll a blunt, dab, lunch.  Dab dab dab, another edible, etc etc.  Works from home so this is every day.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18942 on: October 17, 2017, 02:57:04 PM »
Also, I had a coworker openly admit that he spends $800/month on weed. (And by the way lives paycheck to paycheck)

Where are you? I work in the industry and sell to a head shop that's run by 2 very smart brothers that smoke A TON and neither of them spend more than $400 a month. Either he's getting ripped off or is doing something else wrong.

Friend of mine smokes way more than $800/month.  I'd estimate closer to $2k, but I don't really want to know, because he's also paycheck to paycheck.  Super high tolerance and desire to be high 24/7 costs a lot.  Wake up, dab, eat 60mg edible, breakfast, dab more, roll a blunt, dab, lunch.  Dab dab dab, another edible, etc etc.  Works from home so this is every day.

DANG! Esp as you're in CA where weed is legal. I don't know what prices are like in SF but I imagine they are cheaper than in states where pot is illegal. That is a good point that the more you smoke the higher your tolerance gets.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18943 on: October 17, 2017, 09:13:56 PM »
Also, I had a coworker openly admit that he spends $800/month on weed. (And by the way lives paycheck to paycheck)

Where are you? I work in the industry and sell to a head shop that's run by 2 very smart brothers that smoke A TON and neither of them spend more than $400 a month. Either he's getting ripped off or is doing something else wrong.

Friend of mine smokes way more than $800/month.  I'd estimate closer to $2k, but I don't really want to know, because he's also paycheck to paycheck.  Super high tolerance and desire to be high 24/7 costs a lot.  Wake up, dab, eat 60mg edible, breakfast, dab more, roll a blunt, dab, lunch.  Dab dab dab, another edible, etc etc.  Works from home so this is every day.

DANG! Esp as you're in CA where weed is legal. I don't know what prices are like in SF but I imagine they are cheaper than in states where pot is illegal. That is a good point that the more you smoke the higher your tolerance gets.

$24k/yr habit.  sounds like insourcing could save this guy a lot.

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« Reply #18944 on: October 17, 2017, 09:38:38 PM »
Not at work, but a good friend over the weekend admitted he has absolutely no savings, at age 40. He's been making 6 figures for the past 10 years. (Stay at home wife, one kid).

I hate to admit that I barely feel sad for him, even if he's a friend: I've pointed him to MMM more than 3 years ago, yet he has done absolutely nothing to correct his trajectory. He has strong expectations to get a raise this year through an expat contract, which would probably double his income and "finally allow him to save". But given that as part of his new expat life he also expects to send his kid to an expensive private school, live in a very fancy city dozens of miles away from his work (factory will be in a small-ish town in Europe, they don't want to live there) because "his wife deserves it", and get a bigger apartment than what they have now for the same reason, I'm doubtful they'll save much.

Am I evil for thinking "I can't wait to pull the plug from my 9 to 5 just so that he finally asks me how I did it, and I'll point him to that email I sent back in 2014 with a selection of MMM articles" ?

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« Reply #18945 on: October 18, 2017, 02:16:03 AM »
Not at work, but a good friend over the weekend admitted he has absolutely no savings, at age 40. He's been making 6 figures for the past 10 years. (Stay at home wife, one kid).

I hate to admit that I barely feel sad for him, even if he's a friend: I've pointed him to MMM more than 3 years ago, yet he has done absolutely nothing to correct his trajectory. He has strong expectations to get a raise this year through an expat contract, which would probably double his income and "finally allow him to save". But given that as part of his new expat life he also expects to send his kid to an expensive private school, live in a very fancy city dozens of miles away from his work (factory will be in a small-ish town in Europe, they don't want to live there) because "his wife deserves it", and get a bigger apartment than what they have now for the same reason, I'm doubtful they'll save much.

Am I evil for thinking "I can't wait to pull the plug from my 9 to 5 just so that he finally asks me how I did it, and I'll point him to that email I sent back in 2014 with a selection of MMM articles" ?

That fantasy sounds like a coating of "can't wait to rub it in his face!" over a core of "...and maybe then he finally gets it and start making changes!". You would make a terrible evil genius.

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« Reply #18946 on: October 18, 2017, 02:22:56 AM »
Yeah. I feel bad that I have these thoughts, but I have to be honest, they're here, in the back of my mind.

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« Reply #18947 on: October 18, 2017, 02:51:43 AM »
Yeah. I feel bad that I have these thoughts, but I have to be honest, they're here, in the back of my mind.

What I meant was that you arn't as evil as it sounds. It's not like you would rub it in his face if he lost his job. You are talking about a situation where he still have the option to change, and your FIRE might be the thing that makes him actually listen.

I also have people I care about that makes horrible decisions when it comes to money. It's frustrating, and I have similar fantasies as the one you described. It's a good way to keep from strangling them sometimes! And at the core of it, what we REALLY want is for them to see the responsible financial light.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18948 on: October 18, 2017, 07:34:32 AM »
Not at work, but a good friend over the weekend admitted he has absolutely no savings, at age 40. He's been making 6 figures for the past 10 years. (Stay at home wife, one kid).

I hate to admit that I barely feel sad for him, even if he's a friend: I've pointed him to MMM more than 3 years ago, yet he has done absolutely nothing to correct his trajectory. He has strong expectations to get a raise this year through an expat contract, which would probably double his income and "finally allow him to save". But given that as part of his new expat life he also expects to send his kid to an expensive private school, live in a very fancy city dozens of miles away from his work (factory will be in a small-ish town in Europe, they don't want to live there) because "his wife deserves it", and get a bigger apartment than what they have now for the same reason, I'm doubtful they'll save much.

Am I evil for thinking "I can't wait to pull the plug from my 9 to 5 just so that he finally asks me how I did it, and I'll point him to that email I sent back in 2014 with a selection of MMM articles" ?

I've seen this happen before and it's terrifying.

I was working for a year on an expat contract in Iraq for an oil company - we were all on big money to work in a hostile environment. I had someone in my office (I work in HR) terrified as he said, "I can't afford to lose this job - I'm not able to save anything from my salary". I also found out that he wasn't contributing to our employer pension either. We were paying him £250k/year and the guy is in his 50s.

12 months on this deal and I funded engagement, a wedding, bought a house and still contributed 35% of my salary towards a pension. And even this was a bit spendy.

Kudos however to another guy I grabbed a beer with one night who said, "I figure this gig won't last forever and they pay us loads, so I've always banked every other pay check I've got. If they need to cut back I'm good to go for retirement".

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #18949 on: October 18, 2017, 08:47:32 AM »
Not quite anti-mustachian, but I just started at a new company. I negotiated for 20 days of vacation (a lot for someone my age in the US--I'm 27). A woman I work with--she's 30--started about 9 months before me, and 6 months before another woman I work with. She said "you can thank me for the vacation btw. He tried to give me 10 days, I told him I wasn't coming with less than 15 days of vacation"

I didn't say anything--didn't want to start anything--but I was thinking to myself how lucky I was to ask for as much as I did. Should have asked for more; I'm getting 5 less days off than my last job once you count in holidays as well.