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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1750 on: February 11, 2014, 12:08:52 PM »
Someone bought a brand new car because the battery in their current car (2 years old, I think) needed replaced.

It's a tesla right? It's a battery swap out of a tesla that happens to be not covered by warranty or insurance? Please tell me something along these lines.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1751 on: February 11, 2014, 12:17:29 PM »
Someone bought a brand new car because the battery in their current car (2 years old, I think) needed replaced.

It's a tesla right? It's a battery swap out of a tesla that happens to be not covered by warranty or insurance? Please tell me something along these lines.

No. Regular car battery. Just doesn't feel comfortable with a car that's having problems.

It was all I could do to keep a straight face.

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« Reply #1752 on: February 11, 2014, 12:36:18 PM »
Someone bought a brand new car because the battery in their current car (2 years old, I think) needed replaced.

It's a tesla right? It's a battery swap out of a tesla that happens to be not covered by warranty or insurance? Please tell me something along these lines.

No. Regular car battery. Just doesn't feel comfortable with a car that's having problems.

It was all I could do to keep a straight face.

oh my god. just... oh my god.

what did you SAY?!?!?!? or was it really just "overheard"/you weren't in the conversation so you couldn't say anything?

how old are they? is this the first car they've owned? I'm so confused.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1753 on: February 11, 2014, 12:45:35 PM »
oh my god. just... oh my god.

what did you SAY?!?!?!? or was it really just "overheard"/you weren't in the conversation so you couldn't say anything?

how old are they? is this the first car they've owned? I'm so confused.

No, this was said to me in conversation. I did call it out as ridiculous, but I think she finds, for instance, the way I replaced my own intake manifold gasket on a 23 year old vehicle equally ludicrous. She and her husband are in their mid-40's, and her husband is, if anything, even less car savvy. They have owned many vehicles, as they only drive cars that are under factory warranty.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1754 on: February 11, 2014, 12:57:10 PM »

My new co-worker came by a few minutes ago, asking when was the appropriate time to purchase a flight.  I explained that the company allows you to plan/purchase the trip  early, but the flight portion will be reimbursed after the trip.  My co-worker went on a whole spiel about how buying a ticket one month before is when you'll get the best price, but he would have to wait to book the flight about 10 days prior to departure, b/c he can't float the charge on his credit card for very long.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1755 on: February 11, 2014, 01:14:07 PM »
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yep.  Have done this once or twice for a fresh out who did not have a credit card with sufficient credit limit for a plane ticket.  Was not a balance issue but a limit issue.
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« Reply #1756 on: February 11, 2014, 01:38:38 PM »
Very expensive plain tickets or very low credit card limit? I probably also couldn't put business class ticket to Australia on my credit card, not that we have such a policy. Two years ago 5 people from the department went for a business trip to Sydney, I've heard it was about 30,000$ in tickets alone…

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1757 on: February 11, 2014, 01:40:36 PM »

I suppose in a union shop or something where termination was extremely difficult/impossible you might want some sort of formal punishments, but I don't know why any at will employer would do that.


At the union job I worked at, you got 3 write ups and you were gone. Obviously, you could contest the validity of the write ups, but if you fucked up 3 times, you were getting fired. Additionally, there were fireable offenses, such as coming to work drunk, etc.

To me it seems stupid to punish someone with unpaid time off. Why not give a write up, after a couple, you get fired.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1758 on: February 11, 2014, 01:46:20 PM »
We just found out our annual bonus amount from the Company today.  50% is automatically deposited into retirements account on your behalf, the other 50% may be opted to take home as a bonus.

This year is 9%

CW1:  I let them put 100% into retirement, but I don't save anything out of my paychecks.  I figure the amount they put in there is enough.
CW2:  Do I need to yell at you about this?   You need to start contributing...  I mean, I only save 1% but at least it's something.  (Directs attention to me): Do I need to yell at you about contributing as well?
Me:  I save a lot.  17%, and DH saves 20%
CW1 and CW2 look at me in amazement.
CW2:  Well, I am still paying off my loan I took out of my retirement.  It's not that bad though, was a one time charge of $75 and then a percentace penalty.  My husband saves $10 a paycheck, and he gets paid weekly.  His employer matches it too.
Me:  How much will his employer match?
CW2: I think up to $20 or something
Me:  You know you are throwing away free money, right?
CW2:  Well, my account went up $1,000 one quarter, so that kind of makes up for not contributing a lot





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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1759 on: February 11, 2014, 01:50:44 PM »
At the union job I worked at, you got 3 write ups and you were gone. Obviously, you could contest the validity of the write ups, but if you fucked up 3 times, you were getting fired. Additionally, there were fireable offenses, such as coming to work drunk, etc.

How badly did you have to fuck up to get a write up? There is a vaguely similar system here, not really a union type of job but by law it's difficult to fire individual people (as opposed to firing many when entire departments are closed or downsized) in this country. We do all have unlimited work contracts after all…
 
Since I've been here (5 years) three people with permanent contracts have been fired (site is ca 500 employees). One was claiming to work when actually at home and was fired on the spot when it was discovered, another one was grossly incompetent plus ill half the time and eventually a way was found to get rid of her and the third one from what I've heard got multiple warnings and apparently there was no improvement.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1760 on: February 11, 2014, 01:59:39 PM »
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Very expensive plain tickets or very low credit card limit?

Combination, last minute East Coast to Asia will not be cheap.  But have seen a few young guys hired with 3-4k limits, this is really good in someways I guess - proves they are not stupid and have 20k in cc debt.  But sort of sucks logistically as they cant pay for there own plane ticket and hotel.  Near risk free arbitrage cc miles for me :-)

6k per ticket trans pacific is not nearly the highest I have seen.  If they needed to arrive rested and ready to work that day sometimes it is worth it for an employer.  It is also a nice perk that can be given to employees tax free and as a thank you for going to deal with a mess onsite. 
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1761 on: February 11, 2014, 02:06:30 PM »
3-4k is a normal limit isn't it? At least here it is... My only proper credit card has a limit of 4,000 CHF. I could probably get more if I really needed, but the most I've spent with it is ca 2.5k a month so there is no point.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1762 on: February 11, 2014, 02:13:06 PM »
The ex had a work CC for making travel purchases but she was responsible for the payments and would then file for reimbursement.  There were a couple times, in my pre-mustachian days, that I wondered if we'd be able to cover it pending reimbursement.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1763 on: February 11, 2014, 02:23:37 PM »
At the union job I worked at, you got 3 write ups and you were gone. Obviously, you could contest the validity of the write ups, but if you fucked up 3 times, you were getting fired. Additionally, there were fireable offenses, such as coming to work drunk, etc.

How badly did you have to fuck up to get a write up? There is a vaguely similar system here, not really a union type of job but by law it's difficult to fire individual people (as opposed to firing many when entire departments are closed or downsized) in this country. We do all have unlimited work contracts after all…
 
Since I've been here (5 years) three people with permanent contracts have been fired (site is ca 500 employees). One was claiming to work when actually at home and was fired on the spot when it was discovered, another one was grossly incompetent plus ill half the time and eventually a way was found to get rid of her and the third one from what I've heard got multiple warnings and apparently there was no improvement.

Around here, just depends on who you're in tight with. If you're teacher's pet, you can get away with anything. If not, they report you for anything.

Guess which group I'm in? Lol.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1764 on: February 11, 2014, 02:28:39 PM »
3-4k is a normal limit isn't it? At least here it is... My only proper credit card has a limit of 4,000 CHF. I could probably get more if I really needed, but the most I've spent with it is ca 2.5k a month so there is no point.
Before the financial crisis I had credit cards with limits of 15-20k, maybe more. It was insane. Then in 2009 one or two of my cards dropped my limit down to about 2k. I think now my cards are back up to 7-8k, but I don't pay attention to it as long as it's not ridiculously low like it was in '09.

My first credit card came with a limit of $750 in 2004ish. I was in college with not much income.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1765 on: February 11, 2014, 02:31:24 PM »
3-4k is a normal limit isn't it? At least here it is... My only proper credit card has a limit of 4,000 CHF. I could probably get more if I really needed, but the most I've spent with it is ca 2.5k a month so there is no point.
I have two credit cards, one with a 20k limit and one with a 14k. It's pretty ridiculous but makes my credit score look good since my credit usage ratio is low :)

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« Reply #1766 on: February 11, 2014, 02:38:25 PM »
I have two credit cards, one with a 20k limit and one with a 14k. It's pretty ridiculous but makes my credit score look good since my credit usage ratio is low :)
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We here are not so good at giving such large limits for credit cards. I'd have to actually earn 20k a month or close to it to get a limit that high. I'm not exactly poor, but 20k a month I'm not likely to be making any time soon :)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1767 on: February 11, 2014, 02:58:33 PM »
I agree the cc limit thing is a bit silly. I got the chase freedom card a while back. Took me five minutes to sign up for it and BAM $16k limit.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1768 on: February 11, 2014, 03:32:11 PM »
3-4k is a normal limit isn't it? At least here it is... My only proper credit card has a limit of 4,000 CHF. I could probably get more if I really needed, but the most I've spent with it is ca 2.5k a month so there is no point.

This seems to be the new normal limit for more limited incomes/credit histories. Real credit cards are a new thing in my life (~3 months) and my limits are $7,500 and $4,500. My student loans did give me a decent credit history, but the first credit card seems to have bumped my credit score up from ~730 to ~780. My pre-everything income is ~50k/year. I honestly don't know what I'd do with a higher credit limit, and the second card I signed up for purely for the free monthly FICO score.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1769 on: February 11, 2014, 03:59:12 PM »
My co-worker is headed to Vermont, from TX.  Business Class isn't allowed for non-international flights, so we are talking a pretty typical coach ticket.

He could ask the office manager to use the company corporate card for a one-time event like this, but w/all the roadblocks our T&E department puts up, it's simply not worth the effort.  He'll just buy the ticket 10 days out, and file his expense report the second he returns to the office.  The miles would be cool, but not worth the effort required, IMHO.

My last T&E, I got flagged for $85 worth of meals over two days.  I filled in all the required information on the web-based program, but it didn't ask me to specify what meal of the day it was, so I didn't worry about it.  I had three meals each day, and our company limit is $75/day, so I was well under the limits.

The T&E police made a huge deal about it, and proceeded to send me an e-mail w/directions on how to add in this information.  I followed the instructions, and received a confirmation e-mail.  Two days later, they called to ask me when I was going to respond!  Finally, the woman decided to enter the details herself, and I was eventually paid.

Next time, I'm going to be ridiculously specific.  Breakfast on Monday, 7:14 AM!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1770 on: February 11, 2014, 04:15:29 PM »
3 of my coworkers are going out of town for a 1-day class. their flight left about 10 minutes ago. coworker #4, who pushed for these 3 to be able to go to this class because it is really relevant and will help us all out a lot, was trying to get a hold of one of the 3 travelers because he accidentally locked her out of a computer before he left. she got no response on his phone, and when she talked to the other two they said he wasn't at the airport yet. (this is like... 30 minutes ago.)

finally heard from him (via the others) when he got to the gate with minutes to spare. turns out his phone is turned off until... you guessed it... payday. yikes! I mean, I know we underpay people in this position, but not THAT much. plus this guy tries to get other people to go out to lunch with him ALL the time.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1771 on: February 11, 2014, 05:28:53 PM »
Quick 401k work anecdote that just happened today:

Here's a bit of background.  I am, at 45, the youngest member of my small work team and also the lowest paid (but still well-paid.)

We're all sitting around the conference table this morning.

CoWorker #1: Hey, did the pay raises come through?
CW#2: Yes, they also give us back pay to January 14.
Me: Dang, now I have to lower my 401k percentage.
CW1: Lower it??  I thought you liked to save money.
Me: Well, I do, but I had my percentage dialed in so that I met the contribution limit right at the end of the year.  Now I'll have to lower it so I don't exceed the allowed maximum.
CW#2: Allowed maximum?  There's a limit?  What a ripoff.  (A perfect admixture of clueless and complainy-pantsness)
Me: I think I left my computer unlocked, I'll see you guys later.  (exit stage left)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1772 on: February 11, 2014, 05:34:24 PM »
We need a term like "first world problems" for Mustachian-specific issues like this. "Dang it, I got a raise and now my 401(k) contribution will go past the annual max!"
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1773 on: February 11, 2014, 06:02:49 PM »
Our accounting department will only let us make 401k contributions in $25 increments lol. I really don't understand why either.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1774 on: February 11, 2014, 06:08:06 PM »
The T&E police made a huge deal about it, and proceeded to send me an e-mail w/directions on how to add in this information.  I followed the instructions, and received a confirmation e-mail.  Two days later, they called to ask me when I was going to respond!  Finally, the woman decided to enter the details herself, and I was eventually paid.

Next time, I'm going to be ridiculously specific.  Breakfast on Monday, 7:14 AM!

A coworker of mine was meticulous about filling out expenses, but then last August our finance department sent a nastygram to him and his boss about a missing expense report while he was still traveling (to another site, but still). He simply stopped filing expense reports and autofowards emails from finance into the trash. A year later it continues to annoy the bejeezus out of them, but it turns out there are actually zero consequences for doing this if you are effective at ignoring people.

When you think about it, reporting expenses is also a huge waste of time when the date, location, and amount of each purchase are already listed on the company's credit card statement. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1775 on: February 11, 2014, 07:16:36 PM »
When you think about it, reporting expenses is also a huge waste of time when the date, location, and amount of each purchase are already listed on the company's credit card statement.
This is something I can only appreciate by being self-employed...

The IRS requires a business to keep records of every deducted expense that show what specifically was purchased, why, and who paid for it. A credit card statement by itself shows only the last of these three things. A receipt itemizes exactly what was purchased, so that satisfies the first requirement but not either of the other two; you could have found that receipt lying on the ground and used it to get a quick tax deduction. This is why your finance people want expense reports and receipts, otherwise they can't write off the expenses.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1776 on: February 11, 2014, 07:45:41 PM »
We need a term like "first world problems" for Mustachian-specific issues like this. "Dang it, I got a raise and now my 401(k) contribution will go past the annual max!"

How true.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1777 on: February 11, 2014, 08:10:58 PM »
CW2:  Well, my account went up $1,000 one quarter, so that kind of makes up for not contributing a lot

*facepalm*

Do they know that if they did contribute "a lot," their account might have gone up $10,000 in one quarter instead of $1,000?

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« Reply #1778 on: February 11, 2014, 08:20:51 PM »
CW2:  Well, my account went up $1,000 one quarter, so that kind of makes up for not contributing a lot

*facepalm*

Do they know that if they did contribute "a lot," their account might have gone up $10,000 in one quarter instead of $1,000?

Don't be silly, "no one can save $10,000"!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1779 on: February 11, 2014, 09:29:58 PM »
We need a term like "first world problems" for Mustachian-specific issues like this. "Dang it, I got a raise and now my 401(k) contribution will go past the annual max!"

Large mustache problem?


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1780 on: February 11, 2014, 09:45:51 PM »
My co-worker just spent $180 outfit each for 1 year olds twins.  WOW

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« Reply #1781 on: February 12, 2014, 12:16:07 AM »
Wow I knew I had it good but traveling with other employers sounds like a real pain.  We can file airfare and hotel expense reports before traveling-with no limit I know of-and the cash is normally in my account in 3-4days.   Then most everyone normally does per-diem, so the only real expenses you have to track when you get back are cellphone usage, rental car and maybe some small stuff. 

The accountant knows that when we travel the company makes money so he puts up as few road blocks as he can.  Also I have the 401k set to max out as a percent of base pay, but OT will get me to the limit faster during the year and when I hit the limit he just stops taking that bit out of my pay and sends me a nice email.  Then I have the large mustache problem of having to put even more money into taxable accounts.

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but it turns out there are actually zero consequences for doing this if you are effective at ignoring people
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1782 on: February 12, 2014, 04:07:34 AM »
We need a term like "first world problems" for Mustachian-specific issues like this. "Dang it, I got a raise and now my 401(k) contribution will go past the annual max!"

Large mustache problem?



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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1783 on: February 12, 2014, 06:35:59 AM »
Then I have the large mustache problem of having to put even more money into taxable accounts.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1784 on: February 12, 2014, 06:58:34 AM »
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« Reply #1785 on: February 12, 2014, 07:53:13 AM »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1786 on: February 12, 2014, 09:04:49 AM »
3-4k is a normal limit isn't it? At least here it is... My only proper credit card has a limit of 4,000 CHF. I could probably get more if I really needed, but the most I've spent with it is ca 2.5k a month so there is no point.
I have two credit cards, one with a 20k limit and one with a 14k. It's pretty ridiculous but makes my credit score look good since my credit usage ratio is low :)
I'm not actually sure what my total credit limit on my cards is.  I would have to use them all in order to get statements with that info on them, or call to find out. 

The amount is somewhere around 100,000 USD.   That's totally crazy!     I have zero need for that much credit.   We make damn good money but that's still crazy as hell.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1787 on: February 12, 2014, 09:41:10 AM »
My husband started a new job recently. We began by setting his 401K at 10% to see how it would go, and increase it from there. (Yes, sorry to say, we are not yet maxing them out). Yesterday, I ran the numbers, and emailed him to tell him to raise it to 20% (the company has a limit of 25%, and I am hoping to raise it to 25% soon, if we find we can survive with the 20%).

Anyway, apparently as he was doing this, one of his coworkers was watching him over his shoulder (rude!), and started asking him how he could possibly do that, and what he was thinking. She said she is only able to put in 2%, even though the company matches up to 4%. He basically told her that's why he brings lunch every day instead of eating in the cafeteria, and why he doesn't join them for drinks every Friday. I seriously doubt she got the message, but hey, maybe it planted a seed.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1788 on: February 12, 2014, 02:53:34 PM »
OK, this does not belong here at all, since it wasn't overheard and it's not shame-worthy.  But I'm too lazy to start my own thread, and this one has the word "work" in the title, so good enough.

A colleague of mine came up to me today and said, "Every time I go to spend money, I think of what you told me:  every bit of money I spend now is taking away freedom of choice from the future me.  Sometimes I still spend it, but sometimes that stops me."

How cool is that?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1789 on: February 12, 2014, 03:17:22 PM »
That's awesome, Gray Matter, it sounds like you've made an impact for at least one person!  I think it was MMM who framed it as "buying freedom" that really hit home for me, when I've been so lackadaisical about money management in the past.  I bet your co-worker will start seeing  a little accumulation and start getting excited to do more!

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« Reply #1790 on: February 12, 2014, 06:13:53 PM »
Grey Matter-that is so awesome!  It is nice to make a positive impact on people.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1791 on: February 13, 2014, 08:38:11 AM »
Every time I had a baby my feet grew 1/2 size even though I lost all the weight after pregnancy. I had big feet to begin with so 3 kids later I now wear a size 10 shoe-ugh!]

That happened to my grandma too, exactly half a size each time!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1792 on: February 13, 2014, 08:46:19 AM »
What this tells me about corporate America... it's seen as a punishment to be given days off. I'm thinking I understand why suspending kids from schools doesn't work. They don't want to be there in the first place. You're not hurting them in any way, shape, or form.

That is crazy! Congratz on the two-day vacation!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1793 on: February 13, 2014, 09:03:52 AM »
Not overheard per se but I was talking to my close friend/coworker this morning.  He got some OT because of the 'crippling snow storm' and was commenting on the extra money in his paycheck.  "It's not going towards any new toys or anything...I paid the Lasik off last month so this month i'm paying off [her] car and in a couple months, the student loans." 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1794 on: February 13, 2014, 10:22:20 AM »
there is a whole lot differnece between using distilled water for your cooling system and your washer system.
Car manufactures actually tell people to NOT use distilled water in your washer system because it attacks some plastics or something.

The cooling fluid is designed to protect the engine from corrosion, I don't think minerals in the water would help, I don't know if the would do any harm. But as exranger said, 80cent per 40.000 km might not be worth the risk.

To stay on topic:
I had a discussion with my coworkers about valentines day. The range goes from "we just ignore it" to some pricey jewellery. Also a lot of women feel like they should get something extra special, but don't have to get anything in return, but that's for another topic.

I can't imagine it leaching plastics as much as any metals.  It will corrode metal a lot faster than regular tap water.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1795 on: February 13, 2014, 12:21:07 PM »
At my last job, I had a coworker (I'll call him M) who was quite well-paid.  He'd been with the (Fortune 5) company over 25 years, I'm guessing he was easily making north of $150k.  Wife working, too, and no kids (DINKs!).  Our employer provides a decent pension, plus matching 401(k) up to 5%.  I was talking to another coworker about M, and commented that M should be in pretty decent shape for retirement.  The response I got: "He's a long way away from being financially ready to retire."  Of course, he *did* have an Infiniti QX35 and lamented the face that the QX55's came out shortly after he bought his, plus he always had the most recent phone, tablet, computer, nice department-store-purchased clothes, etc.  But it still boggles my mind how his paycheck was twice the size of mine, and he had no kids, and his wife had a job, and *I* at the age of 28 was closer to retirement than he was at 50.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1796 on: February 13, 2014, 01:28:45 PM »
But it still boggles my mind how his paycheck was twice the size of mine, and he had no kids, and his wife had a job, and *I* at the age of 28 was closer to retirement than he was at 50.

The intersection of math and psychology is pretty boggling.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1797 on: February 13, 2014, 07:59:33 PM »
A conversation with a friend who has a master's degree but doesn't understand money,,,

Him: I went to see Susie's new house. It's nice that she has a new house but she doesn't even have cable.
Me: But she has a HOUSE.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1798 on: February 13, 2014, 08:27:04 PM »
A conversation with a friend who has a master's degree but doesn't understand money,,,

Him: I went to see Susie's new house. It's nice that she has a new house but she doesn't even have cable.
Me: But she has a HOUSE.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #1799 on: February 14, 2014, 06:38:15 AM »
I could have lived overseas for months with the money I spent on my wedding!