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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17250 on: April 01, 2017, 09:47:33 AM »
A delayed paycheck would mess my system up, if I wasn't expecting it. I have every dollar going to different areas with automatic transfers. My usual buffer in my checking account is less than a full paycheck. I could move money from my emergency fund to cover a missed check or even several checks, but if I didn't expect it I could bounce.

Fortunately, my job is really good about pays. It is usually in my account the day before it is supposed to be. I would be pretty upset if they failed to pay me. Even though it wouldn't wreck me.

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« Reply #17251 on: April 01, 2017, 10:06:34 AM »
A delayed paycheck would mess my system up, if I wasn't expecting it. I have every dollar going to different areas with automatic transfers. My usual buffer in my checking account is less than a full paycheck. I could move money from my emergency fund to cover a missed check or even several checks, but if I didn't expect it I could bounce.

Fortunately, my job is really good about pays. It is usually in my account the day before it is supposed to be. I would be pretty upset if they failed to pay me. Even though it wouldn't wreck me.

I used to run relatively tight tolerances like that on my checking accounts. Then I got burned when my credit union changed their online systems and it didn't save an auto-transfer that I needed to pay my mortgage on time. The transfer was set the week before the mortgage was due, so I didn't catch it until the mortgage payment bounced... Now I keep approximately a one-month expenses buffer to give myself plenty of time to catch potential issues in advance.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17252 on: April 01, 2017, 11:05:58 AM »
A girl at work (27 yrs old I think) recently had her mom's house burn down and she told me she had $20k of shoes she lost. Not even including heels or her kid's shoes, but her Jordans and other shoes that are often $160 a pair. She's been collecting them since high school.

She's making $11-$12 an hour right now, and made like $18 an hour in the past. So $20k is not a small chunk by any means.

They did have insurance on the house but not enough to cover everything after the house itself.

I'm glad I don't really have anything to lose if my house/apartment burns down (other than pets of course). The two most expensive things would be my bike, then my mattress.


I babysit occasionally for friends of mine with 4 kids.  I know they buy lots of junk food, toys, and of course, have the expenses of 4 kids.  They laugh about the expense of groceries and how it matches their mortgage payments.... she works a government job in accounting or something related and he is a school teacher.


He has (at last count) 3 utility shelves (the metal/garage style ones) filled FULL (think, stacked from shelf to the bottom of the next shelf)  of Jordans and fancy Nike shoes.  The top of their wall length closet is also packed from shelf to ceiling with such shoes.  They are still in the boxes, he rotates wearing them, and if it rains, he has a back up pair of "crappy" (aka, normal) shoes to wear instead, and carries his Jordans in his backpack.

He likely has over 300 pairs of these things.  And he is over 6 foot, so I'm sure his size is unusual and potentially more expensive (I wouldn't know...I've never bought Jordans). 



If that were all, I'd be like "whatever, thats his thing".  NOPE.  He also has almost a full basement (2 small rooms are kids rooms, that main living space and extra room in the basement are his) FULL of cardinal baseball stuff.

Collectibles, signed stuff, autographed balls, etc.  FULL, as in, no wall space, most of the floor space taken up with the displays....shelves everywhere full.

The amount of money spent on his "collections" makes me wince...particularly since I get their mail for them too, and I know they still owe on student loans, and they are in their early/mid 30s. 

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« Reply #17253 on: April 01, 2017, 12:23:21 PM »
So he isn't even "collecting" those shoes, but using them?
And then not using them if they might *gasp* get wet?
WTF?
He has more then I will ever use in my whole life, so even if he wears a few pairs down he still has lots and then can put back the out-used in their box without having to take them out again!


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17254 on: April 01, 2017, 05:23:17 PM »
So he isn't even "collecting" those shoes, but using them?
And then not using them if they might *gasp* get wet?
WTF?
He has more then I will ever use in my whole life, so even if he wears a few pairs down he still has lots and then can put back the out-used in their box without having to take them out again!

Yeah, its pretty outrageous.  I wear out maybe a pair of shoes a year...maybe 2 if you count summer sandals.  And I wear the same couple year round...

I know he is still occasionally purchasing too...he and his son occasionally get matching pairs (son is 2) and he posts new pairs once in a while on social media. 

Its painful...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17255 on: April 01, 2017, 11:14:49 PM »
My coworkers were late to our usual 'coffee run' (to the kitchen to use the company-provided Keurigs), because they were shopping. Apparently Lids is having a huge sale on MLB gear. One guy said he bought 10 shirts - I said I recently had to pare down my clothing because dresser was full, and his response was 'that's when you overflow to the guest bedroom closets'. Kidding? Not sure.

The bad part is...I'm thinking about buying a couple things too. *facepalm*
Though I won't feel guilty at all about buying a few gift items (because it is a good deal), it's the things I want but don't need that are haunting me.


And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.

Depends on how often you buy things that are wants that differs us from the over spenders, it also matters if the wants are just stockpiled and never used.

Note to self, check the nut & bolt collection in case I nee to replace some not used that are rusty

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17256 on: April 02, 2017, 07:01:11 AM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
Give the belt to someone who does woodcarving or likes to sharpen kitchen knives.  They will make a strop from it and will be grateful for the leather.

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« Reply #17257 on: April 02, 2017, 07:28:30 AM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
Give the belt to someone who does woodcarving or likes to sharpen kitchen knives.  They will make a strop from it and will be grateful for the leather.
How do you sharpen a knife with leather?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17258 on: April 02, 2017, 07:35:11 AM »
How do you sharpen a knife with leather?

The final part of sharpening, when refining the edge to get the final sharpness out of the blade is called "stropping".  Leather is sought after for this. Sometimes the leather is "loaded" with a polishing compound, but often the leather is used as is.

If you e.g. see an old time barber with a straight razor, they often do the stropping of the razor on something that looks like leather belt. 

Newspapers or cardboard pieces are also sometimes used for this purpose. Or a very fine grained sharpening stone.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17259 on: April 03, 2017, 06:52:16 AM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
My parents and grandparents (I grew up in a multi-gen home) raised my brother and me this way. Trainers replaced when old ones were worn out. If they were tight, they went to my brother. Some shirts and pants passed from my dad to me to my brother. Pants became shorts; grandma got mad sewing macheen skillz, yo! New pair of clothes and shoes either on birthday or Diwali (Indian New Year's Eve), but not both, and not always.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17260 on: April 03, 2017, 11:44:56 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

That last line about control? That's why you're leaving the company in the first place. Go ahead and be upset about it, you're trying to get your life together and they're still f***ing it up.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17261 on: April 03, 2017, 11:59:25 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

That last line about control? That's why you're leaving the company in the first place. Go ahead and be upset about it, you're trying to get your life together and they're still f***ing it up.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17262 on: April 03, 2017, 12:50:13 PM »
And I feel bad because I bought a new belt before the old one broke, didn't even try to repair the old one;)
The old belt will be repurposed or disposed of.
Give the belt to someone who does woodcarving or likes to sharpen kitchen knives.  They will make a strop from it and will be grateful for the leather.

It's a nice thought, but most belts make terrible strops. Here's a hint if you want a quality leather product, make sure it says "Top Grain" or "Full Grain".   The "Genuine Leather" label only means it actually came from a cow, but the leather quality is terrible. Often belts are some sort of fabric core with a very thin layer of "genuine" leather on top. And by the time they wear out, the leather is haggard and pretty worthless. Also, most belts are too thin width-wise (vertical while wearing) to be much use. Now if it's a wide, solid leather belt, that might be worth something.

Edit: Oh yeah, stay away from anything that says "Bonded Leather", that's what designates it as pretty much leather veneer over some other material.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17263 on: April 03, 2017, 02:45:37 PM »
I'm in Texas and buy wide "cowboy" belts from our local thrift store and glue them to a flat board.  But you are definitely right about "dress" belts.  They don't work.

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« Reply #17264 on: April 04, 2017, 09:19:06 AM »
One of my guilty little pleasures is looking up what my co-workers paid for their homes. I feel downright giddy when I see that they've paid $100k to $200k more than me for the privilege of owning a piece of the real estate pie in this very high cost of living metro area. Sure, our house is small and not in the fancy school district, but for me, it's our golden ticket out of the cube farm.
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« Reply #17265 on: April 04, 2017, 09:39:01 AM »
She smokes about 2 packs a week at $50 a pop ($1/cig). Plus her partner smokes even more. Total: $800/month

Cigarettes come in packs of 50 and are $50 there?  Not sure which of those numbers is weirder..

OMG, I looked this up, and yes, there is a $40+ tax on a pack of cigarettes in Australia. And they are sold in packs of 20-50 with various increments in between.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572446/Budget-2016-cigarettes-40-packets-make-Australia-world-s-expensive.htmlu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_pack (source for packs of 50)

I have to come out here as a smoker, which is totally un-mustachian, as it is pretty clearly destroying my health (and even though I equate smoking with pleasure, it's not really the pursuit of happiness). But, I roll my own and use pipe tobacco, which is the same as cigarette tobacco, just cut differently, as I understand it -- and it is not taxed at the rate cigarettes are in the U.S.  It costs me $1 per pack!

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« Reply #17266 on: April 04, 2017, 10:32:22 AM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

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« Reply #17267 on: April 04, 2017, 11:15:50 AM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

I just cannot understand how someone could expect you to cover them until payday, regardless of how much it was.  Now, I'm assuming that they asked you to pick these items up knowing that they couldn't repay you immediately.  If that is so, that is so so wrong.  Who made you their bank?
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« Reply #17268 on: April 04, 2017, 11:29:42 AM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

I just cannot understand how someone could expect you to cover them until payday, regardless of how much it was.  Now, I'm assuming that they asked you to pick these items up knowing that they couldn't repay you immediately.  If that is so, that is so so wrong.  Who made you their bank?

Nah, that wasn't really the case. I wasn't going to go to the store until after payday anyway, but ended up being able to go a week early and asked if he wanted them now. I posted the story because he can't cover a $5 expense unless it's after payday...

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« Reply #17269 on: April 04, 2017, 01:38:50 PM »
Got a coworker some snacks from the international food store since he's not close to one. He said he can't pay me until Friday (payday). The total is $5...

He only makes $12/hour but still!

He also just bought an SUV for $6000 (with a loan of course) despite being 20, single, and no kids. At least he drove the last car past 300k miles. I really don't get people and their SUVs, especially in the south where it snows MAYBE once a year.

I just cannot understand how someone could expect you to cover them until payday, regardless of how much it was.  Now, I'm assuming that they asked you to pick these items up knowing that they couldn't repay you immediately.  If that is so, that is so so wrong.  Who made you their bank?

Nah, that wasn't really the case. I wasn't going to go to the store until after payday anyway, but ended up being able to go a week early and asked if he wanted them now. I posted the story because he can't cover a $5 expense unless it's after payday...
Ahhh, got it.  not being able to cover $5 is not great. But I'm glad they weren't also taking advantage of your generosity. 
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17270 on: April 04, 2017, 01:50:28 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17271 on: April 04, 2017, 01:54:43 PM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

and depending on where you are, that's beyond inconvenient, it may actually be illegal. Some states have specific rules about how long an employer has to pay you.

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« Reply #17272 on: April 04, 2017, 02:07:03 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

Wow. Please share. Maybe I just have low energy or something, but I'm not a morning person so I have to go to bed pretty early and get 9+ hours of sleep to not feel useless at work. I would be fine if I was moving around a lot, but I mainly just have a desk job so I absolutely cannot stay awake on too little sleep.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17273 on: April 04, 2017, 03:07:07 PM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....

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« Reply #17274 on: April 04, 2017, 04:12:39 PM »
Former co-worker - always thought they were a closet mustachian and I was wrong - single early 50's - make about $100,000 and drove 10 year old car.  Broke down and bought a new car - sensible Honda CRV - then posted how they were upset to have a car payment that they could barely afford!  Come on now....save some of those car payments you did not have to make for 5 years.

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« Reply #17275 on: April 05, 2017, 01:33:30 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17276 on: April 05, 2017, 01:57:03 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17277 on: April 05, 2017, 06:19:50 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

Haha, not quite.

Most of them are salesmen and applications engineers.  Although, the two biggest spenders, and the guys that skips sleep sometimes, are both Operations Managers.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17278 on: April 05, 2017, 06:54:22 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

... Although, the two biggest spenders, and the guys that skips sleep sometimes, are both Operations Managers.
Ah, managers, so nothing of value is lost then? :P

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17279 on: April 05, 2017, 10:29:03 AM »
My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.
Please don't tell me they're doing clerical work, programming, or operating heavy machinery.....
No, dont worry, they have a talking job. Air traffic control.
Whew.

Haha, not quite.

Most of them are salesmen and applications engineers.  Although, the two biggest spenders, and the guys that skips sleep sometimes, are both Operations Managers.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17280 on: April 06, 2017, 12:17:47 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.f


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

and depending on where you are, that's beyond inconvenient, it may actually be illegal. Some states have specific rules about how long an employer has to pay you.
Update --

So I (politely) updated the issue and accounting expedited a money transfer to my account for the payout, which landed today!   Only 3 weeks later than it should have, but I am quite happy to know the money is in my control, now.

Now I need to see why my last business expenses ($3500) did not go through -- likely held back, as it often is,  for a single $200 receipt or something that was not legible or in the format they wanted -- tough to check now that I no longer work there...I wish they could have paid out the remainder, and just rejected the one line on the expense form instead of the whole thing....

Count my blessings to have gotten the pay today, though.   I will only think happy thoughts...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17281 on: April 06, 2017, 04:53:34 AM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

This.  It appears that within the next 30 days 537 babies (I count the executive branch too) may cause me to get an IOU instead of a paycheck because the can't pass a fucking budget.  I bitch just as much as my paycheck to paycheck co-workers.  Why the fuck should I have to move money from my savings, or delay a scheduled investment movement because they haven't done their job that should have been done 9 months ago.  Just because I have an emergency fund does not mean I want to use it.  I do enjoy the "we swear neverrun has a job that will pay her at some point" letter they give me to provide to creditors.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17282 on: April 06, 2017, 12:41:40 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

Just curious -what is the salary range of said coworkers? 
I am just curious to know what type of money do people make that spend like this.
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« Reply #17283 on: April 06, 2017, 01:19:36 PM »
I really enjoy my coworkers.  They're a fun bunch.  But when I leave the group outing at 7pm to get home in time to tuck my son in, they stay out.  LATE.

My workplace is made up of serious gamblers and strip club connoisseurs.  It's not unusual to hear about someone dropping $800 on blackjack the night before, or having a coworker tell me he didn't sleep the night before because he went from restaurant, to bar, to strip club, to casino, home to shower, then to work.

I'm sure I'll have some more stories to share.

Just curious -what is the salary range of said coworkers? 
I am just curious to know what type of money do people make that spend like this.

My best estimate is $80k - $110k.  I don't know for sure though.
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« Reply #17284 on: April 07, 2017, 11:06:43 AM »
Co-worker noticed a nearby housewares store having a 50% off sale. She asked me and another co-worker if we wanted to go over at lunch. Co-worker 2 said maybe. I said no. She was like, "Oh, come on, it'll be fun." Co-worker 2 wavered. I said, "I don't think I need anything, thanks." Her response was, "I don't need anything either." (!)

When I continued to decline, co-worker 2 toughened up and said she would also skip it. Co-worker then said, "I can't believe I can't get anyone to go shopping with me. That's sad!" She's always complaining about money. Yes, I'm the one who's sad. :-/

This was one of the most surreal conversations I've ever been a part of.

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« Reply #17285 on: April 07, 2017, 03:25:58 PM »
I have a work issue today.  After reading about all the shame and comedy when employees complain that their paychecks are late, I feel a bit selfish for this...

I quit work on March 10th, last day, with over 6 weeks of notice given.   HR has failed to enter my final paperwork twice now, so that I have have to wait an extra 4 (FOUR!) weeks to get my vacation payout.   This was intended to be my self-created severance pay, representing 5 weeks of work.


Am I crazy to feel put out that they made mistakes and delaying payout by 4 weeks?   I don't NEED the money today.  I would just sleep better if I had control over it.

While it is sad when a delayed check completely screws up someone's life because they are so financially on the edge, I don't think it's non-Mustachian to complain when a paycheck it late.  An employer expects the employees to be on time (or have projects in on time if they work from home).  Employees should expect to be paid on time.  In general the pay schedule to explained during orientation or in the employee manual.

This.  It appears that within the next 30 days 537 babies (I count the executive branch too) may cause me to get an IOU instead of a paycheck because the can't pass a fucking budget.  I bitch just as much as my paycheck to paycheck co-workers.  Why the fuck should I have to move money from my savings, or delay a scheduled investment movement because they haven't done their job that should have been done 9 months ago.  Just because I have an emergency fund does not mean I want to use it.  I do enjoy the "we swear neverrun has a job that will pay her at some point" letter they give me to provide to creditors.

Do you get the pay for the days during the baby-throwing-things-out-the-pram phase neverrun? I never fully understood that? Also, good luck and I hope the babies sort things out quickly.

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« Reply #17286 on: April 07, 2017, 03:51:55 PM »
Me and my co-workers became eligible to sign up for a 401(k) plan today. I was formerly the HR/benefits person so my co-workers still tend to ask me questions about stuff like this. One of them was filling it out and asked me one or two things, then wondered aloud about whether it would accept a percentage lower than 1%, because it said you could fill in a number from 1 to 100. I'm hoping it was a hypothetical/rhetorical question, but I was afraid to ask. :-/ 
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« Reply #17287 on: April 07, 2017, 04:30:09 PM »
As soon as I walked into work to start my 12 hour shift today I experienced something noteworthy for this discussion!  My two coworkers know that I ride motorcycles and so do they.  CW1 yells my name and excitedly asks if I want to ride to the BMW dealership this weekend with him and CW2 so they can both buy BMW S1000RRs ($19,000 brand new).  I politely decline saying I have to work noon to midnight on Saturday and Sunday (truth).  They’ve been talking about getting new motorcycles for the past week and even tried getting me to buy a new one with them.  I’m perfectly happy with my $6000 bike that I paid for in cash :)

What makes this even worse is that CW1 had his motorcycle stolen a few months ago and never reported the incident to his insurance company because he owes more on the bike than it’s worth.  So he is still paying insurance/payments on his stolen motorcycle.  CW2 was freaking out last year about his re-enlistment (we’re in the Marine Corps) taking longer than it should and how he can’t afford to be out for even a week because he lives paycheck to paycheck and wouldn’t be able to afford his mortgage payment.  On top of that, CW2 just recently bought (financed) a brand new $14,000 Harley-Davidson about 5 months ago and is already “bored” of it so he is willing to trade it in to the BMW dealership and roll his negative equity into the new motorcycle.  FML this is why the military gets a bad rep when it comes to personal finance and buying flashy vehicles with deployment money, re-enlistment money, or flat-out no money.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17288 on: April 07, 2017, 04:59:46 PM »
As soon as I walked into work to start my 12 hour shift today I experienced something noteworthy for this discussion!  My two coworkers know that I ride motorcycles and so do they.  CW1 yells my name and excitedly asks if I want to ride to the BMW dealership this weekend with him and CW2 so they can both buy BMW S1000RRs ($19,000 brand new).  I politely decline saying I have to work noon to midnight on Saturday and Sunday (truth).  They’ve been talking about getting new motorcycles for the past week and even tried getting me to buy a new one with them.  I’m perfectly happy with my $6000 bike that I paid for in cash :)

What makes this even worse is that CW1 had his motorcycle stolen a few months ago and never reported the incident to his insurance company because he owes more on the bike than it’s worth.  So he is still paying insurance/payments on his stolen motorcycle.  CW2 was freaking out last year about his re-enlistment (we’re in the Marine Corps) taking longer than it should and how he can’t afford to be out for even a week because he lives paycheck to paycheck and wouldn’t be able to afford his mortgage payment.  On top of that, CW2 just recently bought (financed) a brand new $14,000 Harley-Davidson about 5 months ago and is already “bored” of it so he is willing to trade it in to the BMW dealership and roll his negative equity into the new motorcycle.  FML this is why the military gets a bad rep when it comes to personal finance and buying flashy vehicles with deployment money, re-enlistment money, or flat-out no money.

"..roll negative equity into the new motorcycle..."   So sad.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17289 on: April 07, 2017, 06:47:45 PM »
Financing a motorcycle... I seriously feel bad for those people.  On a similar note, some of the people I ride bikes with have $10k+ bicycles.  I have a hunch that some of them were financed.  Just brutal.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17290 on: April 07, 2017, 09:57:06 PM »
Overheard in the hallway at work:

"I guess I'll have to sell my AR-15 to pay for the car repair."


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17291 on: April 07, 2017, 10:50:48 PM »
Overheard in the hallway at work:

"I guess I'll have to sell my AR-15 to pay for the car repair."
I have heard that January-February is a great time to find deals on firearms, because people are overextended from Christmas and still need to pay their rent before their tax refunds arrive.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17292 on: April 08, 2017, 02:58:13 AM »
Overheard in the hallway at work:

"I guess I'll have to sell my AR-15 to pay for the car repair."
I have heard that January-February is a great time to find deals on firearms, because people are overextended from Christmas and still need to pay their rent before their tax refunds arrive.
I guess its also a great time to shop for "slightly used" household items.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17293 on: April 08, 2017, 06:56:02 AM »
Overheard in the hallway at work:

"I guess I'll have to sell my AR-15 to pay for the car repair."
I have heard that January-February is a great time to find deals on firearms, because people are overextended from Christmas and still need to pay their rent before their tax refunds arrive.
I guess its also a great time to shop for "slightly used" household items.

This is incredibly sad.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17294 on: April 08, 2017, 09:49:48 PM »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17295 on: April 10, 2017, 06:15:04 AM »
"I'm so tired of people shitting on me! If I didn't need this job, I would be SO out of here!!"

Don't worry, she probably only has to work 25 more years.

(This quote makes me feel bad for her and her inability to quit, but also motivates ME so I don't have to be around people like her who turn everything into a "poor me" sob-fest).

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« Reply #17296 on: April 10, 2017, 06:49:30 AM »
"I'm so tired of people shitting on me! If I didn't need this job, I would be SO out of here!!"

Don't worry, she probably only has to work 25 more years.

(This quote makes me feel bad for her and her inability to quit, but also motivates ME so I don't have to be around people like her who turn everything into a "poor me" sob-fest).

But the sad thing is it is most likely your CW's choices that had led to needing the job. And I bet they don't see it that way.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17297 on: April 10, 2017, 10:31:08 AM »
I have two overheard at work stories today!
1. I was talking to my co worker last week about my upcoming trip to Italy (I'm so excited!). I wasn't even bragging about the great deals I got on our hotel or about how much "free money" I will get to use from credit card rewards. We were just talking about the sites to see and she volunteered that she is still paying off her trip to Europe from last year. I was shocked. She is married to a military vet, so they have three paychecks between them and no kids to support (though I am pretty sure she pays for a lot of stuff for her grown children and grandchildren). But this is the same person who recently asked if I had done my Easter shopping so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
2. A married couple that we work with recently bought a house to fix up in a town that is 30 miles away from where we all work. I thought that since they both work at the same place, at least they could drive in together. Just found out that, Nope, they each take their own car because one drives home in the middle of the day to let their little dog out.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17298 on: April 10, 2017, 01:18:44 PM »
2. A married couple that we work with recently bought a house to fix up in a town that is 30 miles away from where we all work. I thought that since they both work at the same place, at least they could drive in together. Just found out that, Nope, they each take their own car because one drives home in the middle of the day to let their little dog out.

Assuming that person doesn't then stay home all afternoon and just work half a day, couldn't they still share a car?  The one staying at work while the car is round tripping wouldn't need it while working, unless they are a delivery person or something.  Alternatively, maybe it would save them money to put in a climate conditioned dog house? :)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #17299 on: April 10, 2017, 02:06:18 PM »
But the sad thing is it is most likely your CW's choices that had led to needing the job. And I bet they don't see it that way.

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