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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16050 on: December 09, 2016, 08:17:33 AM »
Yeah, because the corollary is "Why would you buy curry when you have some at home?"!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16051 on: December 09, 2016, 08:21:32 AM »
Everyone in my work place has always appeared relatively mustachian, in that we all bring lunch from home, several people use public transport (I'm the only one that bikes to work) until a new guy started recently. He goes out for lunch everyday, usually to some real grotty places, buys coffees, muffins.... We were discussing the lunches we'd brought in and I said I'd got leftover curry (yum). New guy pipes up, "Why would you bring in curry when you can buy one around here?"

We don't you for fun calculate how much this bought curry would cost and multiple it with your number of working days a year. Then you say: to save ... dollars a year and because I know it tastes good.

I wonder whether the new guy will change his behaviour over time, with all his colleagues giving a good example. Or whether your colleagues rather will follow him in buying food.

It wasn't until I opened Excel and started calculating how much money I would have if I invested regularly that I came on board MMM. It was great seeing how little differences can make a big difference and how even a tiny amount early in my career can help. I only wish I had opened my ROTH IRA sooner.

I would recommend talking to the new employee, might be able to open his eyes. I know when I first started working I would eat out daily, partially because having my own money was such a new feeling for me and as I was working full-time and living with my parents, my overall expenses were insanely low. Once I became a MMM I started bringing my lunches from home and saving my money.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16052 on: December 09, 2016, 09:46:16 AM »
i just got a new desktop - for the kid hitting high school. $500 for a machine that will do for 4 years is fine by me.

the one it replaced was 7 years old so i have a benchmark!

Thinking about replacing my laptop but its only 5 years old...
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16053 on: December 09, 2016, 10:07:06 AM »
i just got a new desktop - for the kid hitting high school. $500 for a machine that will do for 4 years is fine by me.

the one it replaced was 7 years old so i have a benchmark!

Thinking about replacing my laptop but its only 5 years old...

If your laptops harddrive isn't solid state, it is probably past its life expectancy.

I like replacing my computers every 3-4 years with whatever the latest deal is. Since I got a smartphone though, I've found that to be less and less of a necessity.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16054 on: December 09, 2016, 11:24:10 AM »
Returning back from work yesterday I used rapid ride bus instead of my regular express bus. The forecast for Seattle was snow. The bus was PACKED with people. It was a pleasure to see that so many people are using public transport. Recently people in Seattle voted to extend Light Rail and ready to pay for it.

Just an observation on how pleasant that so many clown cars are left at home!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16055 on: December 09, 2016, 11:33:31 AM »
I just dropped thirty large on my  husband for new bike lights that go on your spokes.  We bike in the dark 2x a week.  (That's obv 30 bucks)

When I was a child we had lights powered by our spokes on all bicycles.
I once read that a police officer tried to give a fine to a cyclist for not having his light on. The cyclist was standing still at a red traffic light. The cyclist had to explain the "old fashioned" lighting system. The police officer was obviously very young.

I think what you mean is using a dynamo to power normal back and front lights, whereas I think mm1970 meant something like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7w8vI_Z3QDE/maxresdefault.jpg I had dynamo lights on my old bike and I ended up buying a second battery-powered set because having the lights go out at traffic lights felt very unsafe. Just because I'm stationary doesn't mean I'm magically more visible to cars, and people don't always stop when and where they should!

I just hope that all of you bikers are supplementing the bike lights with reflective vests.  The bike lights are nice, but there are too many bikers in this area whose tiny bike reflectors or lights look like the same reflectors we have on mailboxes.  They also decide to wear all dark clothing.  It's scary to come up to a "mailbox" and, after passing, realize "That was a person!!!"
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16056 on: December 09, 2016, 11:50:11 AM »
I open and close my windows so often (ok once per day) that I start to worry about wear and tear.  How much will opening and closing my windows every day decrease the life of my windows vs. always closed?  10 years vs 20?

I just nearly spat water out my nose sitting at my desk while trying not to laugh at this. This is a very Mustachian thing to have to worry about. The struggle is real. Although, I rent, so I don't have to worry about replacing the windows. However, with this new perspective, I'm now going to open and close my windows as often as I want to really get my money's worth out of this rental.

(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16057 on: December 09, 2016, 12:38:26 PM »
There are some great mainstream brand preconfigured computers from last year to choose from online. Got to keep the computer factory running...

We bought our first good desktop this year. 50% of the original price. Previously we had been running things I cobbled together from used parts or off-lease former corporate computers that sell for cheap. I still have one of those for our TV computer.

I can get 7-8 years easily out of a desktop. It might not be up to playing the latest games at that point but it'll likely still be a great office machine. If Windows gets so bloated that it won't run, switch it to Linux.

All of our computers run Mint Linux KDE or Cinnamon primarily with Windows 7 available (dual boot) for games.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16058 on: December 09, 2016, 01:55:35 PM »
Unrelated to finances, but I am having fun listening to the people on the other side of the cube wall talk about this unknown symbol on some electrical drawing. The guy is saying that he doesn't recognize it, though it looks a bit like a capacitor but with a smiley face and a frown-y face on it. I'm not EE myself so I have no clue, but it is funny to listen to.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16059 on: December 09, 2016, 02:01:33 PM »

I open and close my windows so often (ok once per day) that I start to worry about wear and tear.  How much will opening and closing my windows every day decrease the life of my windows vs. always closed?  10 years vs 20?

 You think your thinking frugal?
 The other night at dinner I got my wife her usual water in a 8 oz cup.
She said, "start getting me 1/2 cup of water, I don't drink as much in winter"
and then added, "that's OK. I can use what's leftover later, when I make my tea for tomorrow"
 That's thinking frugal!  :-)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16060 on: December 09, 2016, 02:06:56 PM »
(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/

or more directly

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2045#comic


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16061 on: December 09, 2016, 02:18:29 PM »

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16062 on: December 09, 2016, 08:37:26 PM »
I am working pretty intensively trying to get everything done but I heard someone talking about me so I tuned in.

Person A: "She's retiring?"
Person B: "Yeah"
Person A: "How?"
Person B:"She says anyone can do it just by saving half their income."
Person A: "As if!"
Person B (somewhat sadly): "Yeah"
Person A: "How did she do it?"
Person B: "Don't know."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16063 on: December 10, 2016, 07:44:23 AM »
I am working pretty intensively trying to get everything done but I heard someone talking about me so I tuned in.

Person A: "She's retiring?"
Person B: "Yeah"
Person A: "How?"
Person B:"She says anyone can do it just by saving half their income."
Person A: "As if!"
Person B (somewhat sadly): "Yeah"
Person A: "How did she do it?"
Person B: "Don't know."

LOL!  I was not expecting a punchline.  I was literally laughing out loud.  Is that really verbatim?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16064 on: December 10, 2016, 08:45:46 AM »
I am working pretty intensively trying to get everything done but I heard someone talking about me so I tuned in.

Person A: "She's retiring?"
Person B: "Yeah"
Person A: "How?"
Person B:"She says anyone can do it just by saving half their income."
Person A: "As if!"
Person B (somewhat sadly): "Yeah"
Person A: "How did she do it?"
Person B: "Don't know."
This is gold.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16065 on: December 10, 2016, 11:57:06 AM »
I am working pretty intensively trying to get everything done but I heard someone talking about me so I tuned in.

Person A: "She's retiring?"
Person B: "Yeah"
Person A: "How?"
Person B:"She says anyone can do it just by saving half their income."
Person A: "As if!"
Person B (somewhat sadly): "Yeah"
Person A: "How did she do it?"
Person B: "Don't know."

LOL!  I was not expecting a punchline.  I was literally laughing out loud.  Is that really verbatim?

Pretty much. Just changed my name in the first question to "She". Other than that, it's verbatim. I consider it a mark of how much more mature I am this week than I was last week since I didn't get up, interrupt their conversation about me, and explain how to do it.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16066 on: December 10, 2016, 01:25:32 PM »
Omg that's funny. Wow.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16067 on: December 10, 2016, 01:32:45 PM »
(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/

or more directly

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2045#comic



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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16068 on: December 10, 2016, 05:50:45 PM »
i just got a new desktop - for the kid hitting high school. $500 for a machine that will do for 4 years is fine by me.

the one it replaced was 7 years old so i have a benchmark!

Thinking about replacing my laptop but its only 5 years old...

If your laptops harddrive isn't solid state, it is probably past its life expectancy.

I like replacing my computers every 3-4 years with whatever the latest deal is. Since I got a smartphone though, I've found that to be less and less of a necessity.

"life expectancy" seems like a really un-mustachian way to treat things. Mine is a 9 year old mac laptop.  It was my high school graduation gift.  Does that mean I win?

I agree though that smartphones/tablets/etc. fill in some of the gaps.  I do have a tablet as well that works for games, which my computer probably can't do.  Probably would have upgraded a while ago if I didn't.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16069 on: December 10, 2016, 07:07:19 PM »
If your laptops harddrive isn't solid state, it is probably past its life expectancy.
"life expectancy" seems like a really un-mustachian way to treat things. Mine is a 9 year old mac laptop.  It was my high school graduation gift.  Does that mean I win?

I think this is about MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) metric.

My desktop mac G5 is 12 years old, but the duty cycle is quite low, as I'm gone a lot, probably less than 2000 hours total runtime, AND it isn't jostled like a laptop.  I bought a new 1TB drive as a backup anyway.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16070 on: December 11, 2016, 02:12:29 AM »
I am working pretty intensively trying to get everything done but I heard someone talking about me so I tuned in.

Person A: "She's retiring?"
Person B: "Yeah"
Person A: "How?"
Person B:"She says anyone can do it just by saving half their income."
Person A: "As if!"
Person B (somewhat sadly): "Yeah"
Person A: "How did she do it?"
Person B: "Don't know."

Seriously though, how did you do it? Lol.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16071 on: December 11, 2016, 08:53:11 AM »
I open and close my windows so often (ok once per day) that I start to worry about wear and tear.  How much will opening and closing my windows every day decrease the life of my windows vs. always closed?  10 years vs 20?

I just nearly spat water out my nose sitting at my desk while trying not to laugh at this. This is a very Mustachian thing to have to worry about. The struggle is real. Although, I rent, so I don't have to worry about replacing the windows. However, with this new perspective, I'm now going to open and close my windows as often as I want to really get my money's worth out of this rental.

(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16072 on: December 11, 2016, 01:12:56 PM »
Everyone in my work place has always appeared relatively mustachian, in that we all bring lunch from home, several people use public transport (I'm the only one that bikes to work) until a new guy started recently. He goes out for lunch everyday, usually to some real grotty places, buys coffees, muffins.... We were discussing the lunches we'd brought in and I said I'd got leftover curry (yum). New guy pipes up, "Why would you bring in curry when you can buy one around here?"

We don't you for fun calculate how much this bought curry would cost and multiple it with your number of working days a year. Then you say: to save ... dollars a year and because I know it tastes good.

I wonder whether the new guy will change his behaviour over time, with all his colleagues giving a good example. Or whether your colleagues rather will follow him in buying food.

It wasn't until I opened Excel and started calculating how much money I would have if I invested regularly that I came on board MMM. It was great seeing how little differences can make a big difference and how even a tiny amount early in my career can help. I only wish I had opened my ROTH IRA sooner.

I would recommend talking to the new employee, might be able to open his eyes. I know when I first started working I would eat out daily, partially because having my own money was such a new feeling for me and as I was working full-time and living with my parents, my overall expenses were insanely low. Once I became a MMM I started bringing my lunches from home and saving my money.

He came in this morning with homemade soup - early days but promising!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16073 on: December 11, 2016, 02:14:06 PM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?
Yes.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16074 on: December 11, 2016, 03:05:29 PM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?
Yes.

No.  See post #3.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16075 on: December 11, 2016, 03:16:32 PM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?
Yes.

No.  See post #3.

That seems to indicate that yes, it happens, though it's "inhospitable."

It was always the norm for us.

Feel like it's becoming more and more common, as companies push more costs onto workers.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16076 on: December 11, 2016, 03:26:10 PM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?
Yes.

No.  See post #3.

That seems to indicate that yes, it happens, though it's "inhospitable."

It was always the norm for us.

Feel like it's becoming more and more common, as companies push more costs onto workers.

She says, "Itís not unheard of," which makes me think it's not uncommon, but also not the norm.  In any event, I don't think I would be willing to pay to $100 to attend the company party.  Thankfully, my firm always paid for everything for all employees and their guests.  Although the 2008 party was incredibly scaled back from the usual shindig and it was employees only, but all that was quite understandable in light of the fact that they had just gone through their first round of layoffs.  I think lots of us who survived the layoffs would have felt terrible about a nice celebration knowing that our friends had just been let go (and more layoffs were upcoming in the next year).
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16077 on: December 11, 2016, 03:41:40 PM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?
Yes.

No.  See post #3.

That seems to indicate that yes, it happens, though it's "inhospitable."

It was always the norm for us.

Feel like it's becoming more and more common, as companies push more costs onto workers.

It's particularly prevalent in government, because such parties are easy targets for people outraged over government spending.  E.g.:

"look at these assholes spending my tax money to have a party!"

Although of course nobody will blink an eye if $100 of post-tax salary is used to pay for the party, which is also ultimately taxpayer money.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16078 on: December 11, 2016, 04:04:30 PM »
That makes sense.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16079 on: December 11, 2016, 04:29:33 PM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?

It is at my new office.

There is the company Christmas party, which is a very elaborate affair. Technically free to attend, but most of the girls go all out with hair, shoes, nails, new outfit, and limo to the party. A couple of girls told me the Christmas party sets them back more than $500, but it's worth it to them to be seen there.

We have then have a team lunch, $60 each for three courses, which we are expected to cover. I'll skip the big night out but I will attend the lunch, good for networking.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16080 on: December 11, 2016, 07:13:35 PM »
Not really an overheard at work story, but I was recently looking into getting a new TV during the sales around Black Friday. I was looking into getting a super-duper huge-ass 48 inch TV. Don't care if it's smart, don't care if it's 4k because I won't sit 3 feet from it, and definitely don't want 3D. The absolute most I was going to pay was $300. I happened to be talking to my boss about it at work and he's like, "why don't you just go all-out and get a 65 inch one?"

I just kind of gawked at him for a minute before I realized my mouth was hanging open. I didn't say it, but my thought was, 48 inches is already insanely huge. The man who dies with the biggest and best toys... still dies. I'd rather enjoy life while I have it.

I know it's terribly anti-mustachian of me to be buying a brand-spanking-new TV, but this will probably be our family TV for at least a decade. It's replacing an old TV that I've replaced several parts inside already, which will move to our bedroom until it finally dies again. I would have bought a used one, but interestingly I found that most ads on Craigslist were asking more than retail. Interesting phenomenon with TV prices always dropping so rapidly....

got a 65in tv LED Samsung 1080p shipped to my house and setup for 80 dollars. reviews have it as the best 1080p TV ever made.  its not about what you spend your money on as much as how you can stretch that dollar for something you're looking for.

IIRC from another thread, weren't you the guy using credit card rewards toward the TV and not counting those in the cost?
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16081 on: December 11, 2016, 08:51:38 PM »
I just watched someone in my building (not from my immediate team, thank goodness) prepare their lunch.

She had a tub of pre-packaged soup, poured half the soup into a ceramic bowl, then poured the other half down the sink.

Me: Is there something wrong with your soup?
Her: No, but I can't eat it all.
Me: ... why don't you leave half in the fridge and eat it tomorrow?
Her: *blank look* Can I do that?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16082 on: December 11, 2016, 09:04:02 PM »
I just watched someone in my building (not from my immediate team, thank goodness) prepare their lunch.

She had a tub of pre-packaged soup, poured half the soup into a ceramic bowl, then poured the other half down the sink.

Me: Is there something wrong with your soup?
Her: No, but I can't eat it all.
Me: ... why don't you leave half in the fridge and eat it tomorrow?
Her: *blank look* Can I do that?

How did you stop yourself from laughing out loud???

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16083 on: December 12, 2016, 12:30:22 AM »
I just watched someone in my building (not from my immediate team, thank goodness) prepare their lunch.

She had a tub of pre-packaged soup, poured half the soup into a ceramic bowl, then poured the other half down the sink.

Me: Is there something wrong with your soup?
Her: No, but I can't eat it all.
Me: ... why don't you leave half in the fridge and eat it tomorrow?
Her: *blank look* Can I do that?

How did you stop yourself from laughing out loud???

Oh my god...the mere mention of soup brings me to uncontrollable fits of laughter every single time:

"NO SOUP FOR YOU. FOR 1 YEAR!"

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16084 on: December 12, 2016, 03:07:56 AM »
I just watched someone in my building (not from my immediate team, thank goodness) prepare their lunch.

She had a tub of pre-packaged soup, poured half the soup into a ceramic bowl, then poured the other half down the sink.

Me: Is there something wrong with your soup?
Her: No, but I can't eat it all.
Me: ... why don't you leave half in the fridge and eat it tomorrow?
Her: *blank look* Can I do that?
You can probably eat it tomorrow NEXT YEAR because of all the preservaties added. And I am not talking about gum based products here.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16085 on: December 12, 2016, 03:15:41 AM »
It's particularly prevalent in government, because such parties are easy targets for people outraged over government spending.  E.g.:

"look at these assholes spending my tax money to have a party!"

Although of course nobody will blink an eye if $100 of post-tax salary is used to pay for the party, which is also ultimately taxpayer money.

Interesting thought.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16086 on: December 12, 2016, 06:16:24 AM »
Unrelated to finances, but I am having fun listening to the people on the other side of the cube wall talk about this unknown symbol on some electrical drawing. The guy is saying that he doesn't recognize it, though it looks a bit like a capacitor but with a smiley face and a frown-y face on it. I'm not EE myself so I have no clue, but it is funny to listen to.
Depends if the drawing is to IEC, NEMA, or some other standard. Could be Circuit Breakers, Pressure Switches, Limit Switches, or something else. The first thing would be to check the CAD drawing for standard used, then use Google.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16087 on: December 12, 2016, 06:21:31 AM »
I just watched someone in my building (not from my immediate team, thank goodness) prepare their lunch.

She had a tub of pre-packaged soup, poured half the soup into a ceramic bowl, then poured the other half down the sink.

Me: Is there something wrong with your soup?
Her: No, but I can't eat it all.
Me: ... why don't you leave half in the fridge and eat it tomorrow?
Her: *blank look* Can I do that?
You can probably eat it tomorrow NEXT YEAR because of all the preservaties added. And I am not talking about gum based products here.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16088 on: December 12, 2016, 08:18:29 AM »
Guy I worked with at my side gig this weekend told me he bought his house in 1994 for $101k. He owes $189k on it now and is thinking about taking out the equity again (probably about $50-$100k).

In fairness to him, he said that his kids will not have any student loans and he is usually (about 9 months of the year) able to pay his mortgage with the side gigs paycheck, but still...  His house probably could have been paid off by now...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16089 on: December 12, 2016, 08:48:49 AM »
It's particularly prevalent in government, because such parties are easy targets for people outraged over government spending.  E.g.:

"look at these assholes spending my tax money to have a party!"

Although of course nobody will blink an eye if $100 of post-tax salary is used to pay for the party, which is also ultimately taxpayer money.

Interesting thought.

Yup, I work for the government and we have to pay our own way for our holiday party.  We aren't even allowed to make a calendar invite on our work calendars to remind everyone about it, because that could be construed as using work time to plan it, which also isn't allowed.  Anytime we do anything we have to think to ourselves "is there any possible way for FOX news to twist this into a waste of tax payer dollars?" 
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16090 on: December 12, 2016, 09:54:01 AM »
It's particularly prevalent in government, because such parties are easy targets for people outraged over government spending.  E.g.:

"look at these assholes spending my tax money to have a party!"

Although of course nobody will blink an eye if $100 of post-tax salary is used to pay for the party, which is also ultimately taxpayer money.

Interesting thought.

Yup, I work for the government and we have to pay our own way for our holiday party.  We aren't even allowed to make a calendar invite on our work calendars to remind everyone about it, because that could be construed as using work time to plan it, which also isn't allowed.  Anytime we do anything we have to think to ourselves "is there any possible way for FOX news to twist this into a waste of tax payer dollars?"

That's just stupid.  There needs to be some sort of employee retention efforts, which I would classify holiday parties as.  Now, if money is being spent to cater in lobster and an open bar, that's one thing, but orgainizing the annual pot luck is quite another.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16091 on: December 12, 2016, 10:19:35 AM »
I got 3 invitations for work Xmas parties, all >$100 a head, the most expensive one $160 a head.  Included are staff who make under 40K a year. Holy guacamole!
Guess who's being a party pooper? Man, I'm saving like nearly $500 by not going.

WTF it's the social norm for workers to pay to attend a Christmas party?
Yes.

I think it depends.

I haven't paid for a work Christmas party in years (unless you count the $70-90 in babysitting costs).

When I was in the military/ government, it was self-funded because: no taxpayer money spent on a party.
When I got into manufacturing our company was large (1000 employees).  Management found that if the party was free, they would have several hundred no-shows.  So they charged $10 a head, and that worked to cut down the no-shows.

Since then, the last 16-17 years, neither my husband's companies, nor mine, have required payment for attendance.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16092 on: December 12, 2016, 10:28:35 AM »
Guy I worked with at my side gig this weekend told me he bought his house in 1994 for $101k. He owes $189k on it now and is thinking about taking out the equity again (probably about $50-$100k).

In fairness to him, he said that his kids will not have any student loans and he is usually (about 9 months of the year) able to pay his mortgage with the side gigs paycheck, but still...  His house probably could have been paid off by now...

Not enough information to judge. Would have to know about the rest of his finances, entirely possible he's using his house in order to borrow at a tax adjusted ~1% APR and saving lots elsewhere.  Also, using it to pay for college is about the only acceptable use of home equity IMO.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16093 on: December 12, 2016, 11:01:23 AM »
Guy I worked with at my side gig this weekend told me he bought his house in 1994 for $101k. He owes $189k on it now and is thinking about taking out the equity again (probably about $50-$100k).

In fairness to him, he said that his kids will not have any student loans and he is usually (about 9 months of the year) able to pay his mortgage with the side gigs paycheck, but still...  His house probably could have been paid off by now...

Not enough information to judge. Would have to know about the rest of his finances, entirely possible he's using his house in order to borrow at a tax adjusted ~1% APR and saving lots elsewhere.  Also, using it to pay for college is about the only acceptable use of home equity IMO.

You're correct, as usual. And as I mentioned, he does pay the mortgage with his side gig for most months.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16094 on: December 12, 2016, 11:13:41 AM »
Guy I worked with at my side gig this weekend told me he bought his house in 1994 for $101k. He owes $189k on it now and is thinking about taking out the equity again (probably about $50-$100k).

In fairness to him, he said that his kids will not have any student loans and he is usually (about 9 months of the year) able to pay his mortgage with the side gigs paycheck, but still...  His house probably could have been paid off by now...

Not enough information to judge. Would have to know about the rest of his finances, entirely possible he's using his house in order to borrow at a tax adjusted ~1% APR and saving lots elsewhere.  Also, using it to pay for college is about the only acceptable use of home equity IMO.

You're correct, as usual. And as I mentioned, he does pay the mortgage with his side gig for most months.

So then the question is, does he have the side gig because he needs the money to make his mortgage payment?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16095 on: December 12, 2016, 11:59:47 AM »
(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/

or more directly

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2045#comic

...


Pure awesomeness. I would totally consider doing that to power certain things if I lived alone and had certain utilities covered but not others. Sadly, my wife would likely (and rightly so) object.

The more difficult would be the opposite... free electricity but not water. Buy an electric heater and hold it up to the building sprinkler system to get free water?? Idk, I guess maybe that's pushing it.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16096 on: December 12, 2016, 12:14:05 PM »
(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/

or more directly

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2045#comic

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Pure awesomeness. I would totally consider doing that to power certain things if I lived alone and had certain utilities covered but not others. Sadly, my wife would likely (and rightly so) object.

The more difficult would be the opposite... free electricity but not water. Buy an electric heater and hold it up to the building sprinkler system to get free water?? Idk, I guess maybe that's pushing it.

Water has to be super cheap for you though, being in Toronto--what is your time worth?

(basing it on having very cheap water in Chicago, due to proximity to that giant body of water we have)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16097 on: December 12, 2016, 12:19:15 PM »
(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/

or more directly

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2045#comic

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Pure awesomeness. I would totally consider doing that to power certain things if I lived alone and had certain utilities covered but not others. Sadly, my wife would likely (and rightly so) object.

The more difficult would be the opposite... free electricity but not water. Buy an electric heater and hold it up to the building sprinkler system to get free water?? Idk, I guess maybe that's pushing it.

Water has to be super cheap for you though, being in Toronto--what is your time worth?

(basing it on having very cheap water in Chicago, due to proximity to that giant body of water we have)

I find all of our utilities in Chicago cheap: water as mentioned, electricity is nuclear and cheap, and we have natural gas which is super cheap right now.  Frankly, trying to save money on any of these three seems laughable to me given how cheap they are here. 
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16098 on: December 12, 2016, 12:23:39 PM »
One more story for you.

Met my former colleague last week for coffee to find out about her new job and how she was doing.
Obviously we are exchanging news and stories.

She is asking me about my colleague in my department:

--How is X doing? Is she retiring any time soon?
--Nothing that I heard about. She just turned 66 last month!
--Wow! Why would someone want to work that long?
--Exactly!
----ENJOY YOUR LIFE!!!-- shouted both of us at the same time!!

That was hilarious!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #16099 on: December 12, 2016, 01:28:02 PM »
(Side note: my rent unfortunately includes all utilities... so maybe I'm the sucker?)

https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/

or more directly

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2045#comic

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Pure awesomeness. I would totally consider doing that to power certain things if I lived alone and had certain utilities covered but not others. Sadly, my wife would likely (and rightly so) object.

The more difficult would be the opposite... free electricity but not water. Buy an electric heater and hold it up to the building sprinkler system to get free water?? Idk, I guess maybe that's pushing it.

You could dig a well