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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15850 on: November 16, 2016, 04:54:15 PM »
It is benefit re-enrollment time, and the company is utterly changing up how the medical and dental benefits work, so it is a bit confusing for people.  e.g., a  complexity is that instead of paying part of the premiums each pay period, and putting $600 into a HSA, they will just give a larger amount to HSA that we direct to the (now) much higher monthly premiums..

The end impact is that a family that relies on one employee for health benefits will pay between $150 and $300 more per  month.   I think that it is a lot, but not atrocious, and those that have a spouse with good benefits can opt out if they like and save money, or you can get a bit less coverage and get a bit of money back.

After the hue and cry died down, the answer from management is that they will continue on with the plan, but cover $150 per month of it for another three months, then it is fully employee paid.  This makes me assume that people were claiming hardships from it, and they want to delay it until pay raises kick in.

I am not sure if this is just sucky (as the $ will absorb everyone's pay raise this year and then some), or if the clamour about the gigantic increase is justified.   Average employee is making $60k, average for employees with families would be closer to $75k.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15851 on: November 16, 2016, 07:19:17 PM »

Nice girl but she thinks Groupons are the solution to everything.

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After I posted this she bought tickets to a show ($190 each) then left early to get her eyebrows "done".

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The latest (I need to give this girl a pseudonym since she's such a source of fodder for this thread)...


Groupon Eyebrow Spendypants?

Love it!

I will trade you use of the name for another story from Groupon Eyebrow Spendypants after her recent trip...

"It was so nice to just splash out. I feel like I'm always so thrifty and never do anything fun, so I think I need to let up a bit now that I'm home."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15852 on: November 17, 2016, 01:21:51 PM »
This isn't exactly on thread, but close.

At a day-long meeting at a vendor. The guy next to me is quite the character. I've watched him drink five diet colas in the past hour. He drinks these suckers with a big sucking/slurping noise. His lunch brought from home was a big bag of potato chips. Right now I can see that he is playing I like poker on his laptop.

Question: is that better or worse than me checking the MMM forums in the same meeting? :-)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15853 on: November 17, 2016, 01:31:37 PM »
This isn't exactly on thread, but close.

At a day-long meeting at a vendor. The guy next to me is quite the character. I've watched him drink five diet colas in the past hour. He drinks these suckers with a big sucking/slurping noise. His lunch brought from home was a big bag of potato chips. Right now I can see that he is playing I like poker on his laptop.

Question: is that better or worse than me checking the MMM forums in the same meeting? :-)
That depends. What flavour are the crisps? :)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15854 on: November 17, 2016, 01:50:25 PM »
Haha! As best I can tell there is both some corn chips and those freak-y potato chips that come in a cylinder.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15855 on: November 17, 2016, 02:28:01 PM »
Coworker got a Mini NES for $250 (Reg price $60) because every store ran out and that's the reseller price they found online

But hey, at least they divided it into 3 siblings, so they paid $83 each...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15856 on: November 17, 2016, 02:31:22 PM »
Coworker got a Mini NES for $250 (Reg price $60) because every store ran out and that's the reseller price they found online

But hey, at least they divided it into 3 siblings, so they paid $83 each...

So they spent 190$ to get it a few weeks early? Wow. (I say 'a few weeks early' because Nintendo has said they will try pushing out as much product as they can as soon as they can.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15857 on: November 17, 2016, 02:31:41 PM »
Coworker got a Mini NES for $250 (Reg price $60) because every store ran out and that's the reseller price they found online

But hey, at least they divided it into 3 siblings, so they paid $83 each...

Wait what? NES games and emulators are free online. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15858 on: November 17, 2016, 02:40:43 PM »
Coworker got a Mini NES for $250 (Reg price $60) because every store ran out and that's the reseller price they found online

But hey, at least they divided it into 3 siblings, so they paid $83 each...

So they spent 190$ to get it a few weeks early? Wow. (I say 'a few weeks early' because Nintendo has said they will try pushing out as much product as they can as soon as they can.)
It came out last week where I live, not sure about other places :)

Coworker got a Mini NES for $250 (Reg price $60) because every store ran out and that's the reseller price they found online

But hey, at least they divided it into 3 siblings, so they paid $83 each...

Wait what? NES games and emulators are free online. 
Nintendo came up with a new mini replica of NES and it's a big thing these days.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15859 on: November 17, 2016, 02:50:34 PM »
I think I might go home and play SMB3 on my laptop.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15860 on: November 17, 2016, 03:18:38 PM »
A friend at my gym was complaining about this. Apparently all the units are sold out but thankfully she isn't going to pay $200+ to get it on ebay, she said she'll wait until they come back in stock (she thinks it will be Feb before she gets it).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15861 on: November 17, 2016, 03:18:46 PM »
I want the new one, but I'll wait until I can get it for $60 (or less). 

I get that you can play the games online, but it's not the same as playing with the original square controller hooked up to the TV. 

I'm not a gamer, but I think this looks like a fun activity my kid can also do, and is much cheaper/easier/less involved than the current high-zoot fancy systems that seem like you spend more time setting up the game than just screwing around like I like to do on the old Nintendo.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15862 on: November 17, 2016, 04:16:45 PM »
Not so much overheard at work, but it involves a new job I landed.

I live about 40 miles away from work, not bad considering Phoenix and I would downtown. There is an Express bus park and ride about 10 mins from my house and as part of the compensation, I get a free bus/lightrail pass. I figured what the heck, Ill check out the bus ride and see how it goes. Long story short, Im a big fan, but everyone I tell looks at me like I have an alien growing out of my forehead lol. I try to explain these arent your standard mass transit busses, they basically run only in the morning and at night getting working professionals to and from work and only make a few stops while in town, then it never stops again until the park and ride about 30 miles away. I added up my monthly savings and its about $200 a month in gas and parking. So I figure I actually make $2400 more a year, plus possibly more if I can cut my insurance costs since Im not driving near the mileage anymore. Not to mention, I don't have the headache of driving in rush hour 2x a day. That alone is worth it!!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15863 on: November 17, 2016, 04:32:31 PM »
Not so much overheard at work, but it involves a new job I landed.

I live about 40 miles away from work, not bad considering Phoenix and I would downtown. There is an Express bus park and ride about 10 mins from my house and as part of the compensation, I get a free bus/lightrail pass. I figured what the heck, Ill check out the bus ride and see how it goes. Long story short, Im a big fan, but everyone I tell looks at me like I have an alien growing out of my forehead lol. I try to explain these arent your standard mass transit busses, they basically run only in the morning and at night getting working professionals to and from work and only make a few stops while in town, then it never stops again until the park and ride about 30 miles away. I added up my monthly savings and its about $200 a month in gas and parking. So I figure I actually make $2400 more a year, plus possibly more if I can cut my insurance costs since Im not driving near the mileage anymore. Not to mention, I don't have the headache of driving in rush hour 2x a day. That alone is worth it!!

I think this belongs in the "What small things did you do TODAY to save money?" thread :)

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/what-small-things-did-you-do-today-to-save-money/msg1306927/#msg1306927


and well done!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15864 on: November 17, 2016, 08:57:45 PM »
Not so much overheard at work, but it involves a new job I landed.

I live about 40 miles away from work, not bad considering Phoenix and I would downtown. There is an Express bus park and ride about 10 mins from my house and as part of the compensation, I get a free bus/lightrail pass. I figured what the heck, Ill check out the bus ride and see how it goes. Long story short, Im a big fan, but everyone I tell looks at me like I have an alien growing out of my forehead lol. I try to explain these arent your standard mass transit busses, they basically run only in the morning and at night getting working professionals to and from work and only make a few stops while in town, then it never stops again until the park and ride about 30 miles away. I added up my monthly savings and its about $200 a month in gas and parking. So I figure I actually make $2400 more a year, plus possibly more if I can cut my insurance costs since Im not driving near the mileage anymore. Not to mention, I don't have the headache of driving in rush hour 2x a day. That alone is worth it!!

My daughter and I were adventuring in Phoenix last winter, and I insisted on using the buses for the Fiesta Bowl Parade because we could park near the stop and not have to drive. She snarked a bit about having to take public transit (she's very American that way) but marveled to see that buses were running on all major routes even on a holiday Sunday, and that there is a functional light rail system. For a Western city in the United States Phoenix and the surrounding urban areas are quite advanced in terms of its bus transit. I was impressed with the cleanliness and promptness of the buses and the way we could get almost anywhere we wanted to go with only one transfer and a bit of walking. I do like Arizona and could see myself living there, however I think I might like Flagstaff best because of the trees.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15865 on: November 18, 2016, 01:29:49 AM »

I was impressed with the cleanliness and promptness of the buses and the way we could get almost anywhere we wanted to go with only one transfer and a bit of walking. I do like Arizona and could see myself living there, however I think I might like Flagstaff best because of the trees.

Good for you. I am also in general pleases with cleanliness of trains here in Norway. But once a year when i visit the Netherlands and take a train from the airport, I have been shocked several times of how dirty the trains are. And that doesn't give me a good feeling for using them. Yes, public transport can be convenient, if you can sit comfortably and if it is clean.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15866 on: November 18, 2016, 02:59:26 AM »
This chat at work is driving me crazy:

Colleague A (who I really like in general) has started working a part-time job on top of her full-time job, because she needs to earn more money.
Because:
She's inherited 10,000 and therefore wants to use it as a deposit on a flat. So far so good. However she recently bought a car on finance, and presumably has other finance issues, so the bank won't give her a mortgage unless she's earning over 25,000. Hence the part-time side hustle to bump up her overall wage.
Management found out and sent round an email telling us all that we have to ask permission before we get a part-time side hustle incase it affects our work/there's a conflict of interest.

So on the one hand, I think management have no business dictating whether we can get an extra job - and also loads of people have done this in the past and they're only now cottoning on to the fact.

BUT

On the other hand, it is complainy-pants central now in the office. A lot of complaining about how it is impossible for anyone to get a mortage on the wages we get paid. Younger people are having a full-on war with older people about how unfair it is on the younger generation who can't afford to buy homes, etc, and the older (i.e management) generation are stopping them from realising their dreams.
Except, I earn less than 25,000 a year, and I saved less than 10,000 of a deposit, and I bought a flat, THIS YEAR. And my bank gave me mortgage, presumably because I didn't have a massive car loan and tons of other debt already.
Yet nobody is suggesting that it's more about Colleague A's financial decisions. Nope, it's all the fault of our employer.
UUGH.
She also buys a lot of clothes and goes out to fancy bars, etc.

I really like this woman - she's a great person. But all of this is just melting my brain.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15867 on: November 18, 2016, 03:50:15 AM »
I think employers could have a company policy that you cannot have any kind of side-job, in case it influences your primary job. I used to have company rules that said I had to ask for permission for a second job or board job. They wanted to prevent me from doing something competitive.
But I understand that how lower salaries they pay, the less reasonable this becomes.

About this colleague A, I understand that the bank is reluctant to give her a mortgage if she already has a loan on her car. Taking out a loan on a car is a sign of prioritizing your money in a way that the bank does not like. It's much better to be able to show them some of your latest months spending and showing that you got in such much and spent a lot less.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15868 on: November 18, 2016, 07:35:56 AM »
I think I might go home and play SMB3 on my laptop.

Or SuperTux...

https://supertuxproject.org

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15869 on: November 18, 2016, 07:48:53 AM »
I think I might go home and play SMB3 on my laptop.

Or SuperTux...

https://supertuxproject.org

That looks sweet.  I have a lot of nostalgia for SMB3 though.  I go back every couple years and play it and it brings me back to when I was a kid.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15870 on: November 18, 2016, 07:54:22 AM »
I think employers could have a company policy that you cannot have any kind of side-job, in case it influences your primary job. I used to have company rules that said I had to ask for permission for a second job or board job. They wanted to prevent me from doing something competitive.
But I understand that how lower salaries they pay, the less reasonable this becomes.

On one hand, I understand your point, kinda. But on the other hand:
1) You're dealing with humans, not machines: their lives WILL influence the job. What else are you gonna do? Forbid people from dating (drama influences their ability to do their job), getting married (wedding planning and distraction influences their ability to do their job), having kids (parental leave, exhaustion, etc: ALL likely to influence their primary job) divorcing (oh god the drama), having parents need elder care or passing away (how much time off work do you need to take care of your mother's Alzheimer's??) etc. Like, things people do outside the office influences their job. Period. It's 100% out of the employer's control, despite what some employers would like to think (and I say this as a manager, ok - if the people I manage have a sick kid and are going through a divorce, I have to adjust workload because they can't handle it all because their attention is split, and that's NORMAL for a period of time. It's life.)

2) I think that pre-emptive "we forbid this because it MAY influence your job" is straight-up rules-lawyering your way out of having to manage, and is shitty management. Like, if I, say, sell eggs from my chickens on the weekends, and go to the farmer's market on Saturday mornings to sell some stuff I made, hypothetically: based on what you wrote, my employer should be able to forbid that use of my free non-company time 'just in case' it influences the time/effort I spend at work - which, personally, I think is bullshit. I trade a portion of time for a portion of money, I do not trade ownership of my life for money. That's not the deal.

REGARDLESS of the contract I sign, though, if my chickens and baking (or whatever it is) infuences my ability to commit to and do my primary job, it's 100% reasonable and legal for my boss to have a conversation along the lines of "we have noticed that since you started doing this thing outside of work, you have been late 5 times, called in sick twice, and been absent-minded, which has caused the following mistakes to be made. We need you to commit to fixing this situation. Can you suggest some concrete steps you can take to ensure that these issues will not re-occur?" AKA: the problem is NOT the side-job, the problem is the impact on the ACTUAL job, and it's the manager's actual job to address that.

Oh, and 3) Look. I'm actually getting chickens in the spring: what I'll save on compost and groceries and meat, + the money I can bring in selling eggs and meat, after expenses, should equal to 2-300$/month, depeding on the season. Etsy brings in 50-100$/month, depending on what I feel like putting up there. The occasional freelance gig brings in a few hundred, when I have time around family and work and life. That's 300+$/month of my expenses that don't depend on my employer to be met, right? Saying 'no side gigs EVER' is functionally also saying 'we require you /possibly your family to be dependant on a single source of income, and this will put you in the worst bargaining position EVER, because we also know you can't afford to leave because you have no other source of income. Cheers!'. That's double-plus bullshit. I can understand why a (shitty) employer would find that appealing, but it's a super transparent power play and is nonsense.

In reality: most employers have a clause like this, and then turn a blind eye to anything that isn't direct competition. I just still think it's bullshit.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15871 on: November 18, 2016, 07:59:07 AM »
Good for you. I am also in general pleases with cleanliness of trains here in Norway. But once a year when i visit the Netherlands and take a train from the airport, I have been shocked several times of how dirty the trains are. And that doesn't give me a good feeling for using them. Yes, public transport can be convenient, if you can sit comfortably and if it is clean.

Huh, back when I used to travel for work to the Netherlands I took the train out to the city I worked in, and I always thought how clean and nice it was.  Maybe it was the particular line I was on, or maybe because my reference point is SEPTA Regional Rail or NJ Transit.  I used to use those heavily while in school, since I didn't get a licence until 24.  I think they've updated since then, but let's just say they weren't exactly clean or modern (or comfortable!) at the time.  BUT- they get a lot of people where they need to go relatively on time, and didn't cost very much, esp when compared to the cost of parking in the city.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15872 on: November 18, 2016, 08:07:02 AM »
I think I might go home and play SMB3 on my laptop.

Or SuperTux...

https://supertuxproject.org

That looks sweet.  I have a lot of nostalgia for SMB3 though.  I go back every couple years and play it and it brings me back to when I was a kid.

Games and certain rerun TV shows. Great way to spend a bit of downtime with brain disengaged. Takes me back too.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15873 on: November 18, 2016, 10:45:58 AM »
I would absolutely be OK with signing a contract that said I would not take a second job or any additional freelance work that impeded my ability to fulfil the tasks in my job description in a reasonable and timely manner, and that I wouldn't do any additional work in the same field. But as I see it, an appropriate second job is one that your boss should never know about anyway because you can still do your first job perfectly well. As Kitsune said, work is about trading hours/effort for money, not about a company or boss telling you how to run your whole life.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15874 on: November 18, 2016, 11:20:33 AM »
I would absolutely be OK with signing a contract that said I would not take a second job or any additional freelance work that impeded my ability to fulfil the tasks in my job description in a reasonable and timely manner, and that I wouldn't do any additional work in the same field. But as I see it, an appropriate second job is one that your boss should never know about anyway because you can still do your first job perfectly well. As Kitsune said, work is about trading hours/effort for money, not about a company or boss telling you how to run your whole life.

That makes sense. Most of the guys in my warehouse have side gigs, one of them is friends with a general contractors and will get offers all the time to help with construction type jobs, while the other sometimes joins him when they need him but also mows lawns and buys and sells things. I never say anything. They will occasionally ask the warehouse manager if they can not come in on certain days because they have a construction job. If things are going to be light he doesn't mind, or if he isn't sure how things are progressing he'll ask me. The way I see it, they make more per hour doing construction so I don't begrudge them earning extra cash and on days when I know things will be slow, it means less that they are owed on their paycheck so I feel like I come out ahead.

When things are very busy though, I do tighten to screws on giving permission for them to take a day off. There hasn't been a problem when I've said that they can't do their side gig on a working day and the guys understand my reasoning why when I tell them. In other words, I believe we have a good thing going and I hope nothing rocks the boat.

I should add that these are guys that moved me into my house and one of them used idle time in the warehouse (with owner permission of course) to make me a coffee table out of pallets. There usually is a few hours of dead time each day in which the guys in the warehouse do busy work, so Mike actually said he loved the opportunity to do something creative. I offered to pay him and he declined, just asked for me bring him lunch next week which I did.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15875 on: November 18, 2016, 01:28:26 PM »

I was impressed with the cleanliness and promptness of the buses and the way we could get almost anywhere we wanted to go with only one transfer and a bit of walking. I do like Arizona and could see myself living there, however I think I might like Flagstaff best because of the trees.

Good for you. I am also in general pleases with cleanliness of trains here in Norway. But once a year when i visit the Netherlands and take a train from the airport, I have been shocked several times of how dirty the trains are. And that doesn't give me a good feeling for using them. Yes, public transport can be convenient, if you can sit comfortably and if it is clean.
Huh? Really? The trains I used in the netherlands (not many) were very nice and clean.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15876 on: November 18, 2016, 04:36:30 PM »
The other day at work:

I: "You have a slow cooker, food processor, and blender, right?"
CW1: "Yes"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW1: "The blender and slow cooker, yes."
A few moments later CW2 arrives. I ask "CW2, I know you have a blender from a birthday gift but do you have another blender, food processor, and slow cooker."
CW2: "Yes and I also have two slow cookers. The blender and food processor were wedding gifts."

A day later, I ask CW3 "Do you own a food processor, blender, and/or slow cooker?"
CW3: "sounds like a loaded question, but here goes..... yes I have a blender and slow cooker... why? [sic]"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW3: "The slow cooker was. where is this leading to? [sic]"
I: "Thanks for the answers CW3. That is all."
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15877 on: November 18, 2016, 04:39:06 PM »
The other day at work:

I: "You have a slow cooker, food processor, and blender, right?"
CW1: "Yes"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW1: "The blender and slow cooker, yes."
A few moments later CW2 arrives. I ask "CW2, I know you have a blender from a birth?ay gift but do you have another blender, food processor, and slow cooker."
CW2: "Yes and I also have two slow cookers. The blender and food processor were wedding gifts."

A day later, I ask CW3 "Do you own a food processor, blender, and/or slow cooker?"
CW3: "sounds like a loaded question, but here goes..... yes I have a blender and slow cooker... why?"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW3: "The slow cooker was. where is this leading to? [sic]"
I: "Thanks for the answers CW3. That is all."

Ok, I didn't follow this at all.  What's the unmustachian part?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15878 on: November 18, 2016, 04:45:13 PM »
The other day at work:

I: "You have a slow cooker, food processor, and blender, right?"
CW1: "Yes"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW1: "The blender and slow cooker, yes."
A few moments later CW2 arrives. I ask "CW2, I know you have a blender from a birth?ay gift but do you have another blender, food processor, and slow cooker."
CW2: "Yes and I also have two slow cookers. The blender and food processor were wedding gifts."

A day later, I ask CW3 "Do you own a food processor, blender, and/or slow cooker?"
CW3: "sounds like a loaded question, but here goes..... yes I have a blender and slow cooker... why?"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW3: "The slow cooker was. where is this leading to? [sic]"
I: "Thanks for the answers CW3. That is all."

Ok, I didn't follow this at all.  What's the unmustachian part?

Everyone appears to get expensive household appliances for wedding gifts. No included but expected is that most of these devices are unused.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15879 on: November 18, 2016, 04:49:51 PM »
The other day at work:

I: "You have a slow cooker, food processor, and blender, right?"
CW1: "Yes"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW1: "The blender and slow cooker, yes."
A few moments later CW2 arrives. I ask "CW2, I know you have a blender from a birth?ay gift but do you have another blender, food processor, and slow cooker."
CW2: "Yes and I also have two slow cookers. The blender and food processor were wedding gifts."

A day later, I ask CW3 "Do you own a food processor, blender, and/or slow cooker?"
CW3: "sounds like a loaded question, but here goes..... yes I have a blender and slow cooker... why?"
I: "Were they wedding gifts?"
CW3: "The slow cooker was. where is this leading to? [sic]"
I: "Thanks for the answers CW3. That is all."

Ok, I didn't follow this at all.  What's the unmustachian part?

Probably all the creepy questions and cataloging of coworker possessions.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #15880 on: November 18, 2016, 05:27:54 PM »
Yeah dude, that's kind of a weird thing to be asking and judging.

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« Reply #15881 on: November 18, 2016, 05:30:28 PM »
Nothing about the foam in California yet? Fits right in here.

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« Reply #15882 on: November 18, 2016, 05:41:08 PM »
Nothing about the foam in California yet? Fits right in here.

Here's a test of a similar system.  Seems cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOwkchy9Bw

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« Reply #15883 on: November 18, 2016, 06:52:31 PM »
Yeah dude, that's kind of a weird thing to be asking and judging.

I guess I am just strange. As much as I'd love people I'd never think that getting a 1500+$ slow cooker for people was a common wedding gift.

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« Reply #15884 on: November 18, 2016, 06:57:52 PM »
You might have missed that part. Who said anything about $1500 for a slow cooker?

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« Reply #15885 on: November 18, 2016, 07:04:00 PM »
Who said anything about $1500 for a slow cooker?

Woah woah woah... seems like a loaded question

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« Reply #15886 on: November 18, 2016, 08:04:10 PM »
Who said anything about $1500 for a slow cooker?

Woah woah woah... seems like a loaded question
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whoa whoa whoa...a $1500 slow cooker exists? 

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« Reply #15887 on: November 18, 2016, 09:28:09 PM »
Who said anything about $1500 for a slow cooker?

Woah woah woah... seems like a loaded question
[/quote

whoa whoa whoa...a $1500 slow cooker exists?

whoa whoa whoah... I think there was an extra zero

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« Reply #15888 on: November 18, 2016, 10:22:08 PM »
Who said anything about $1500 for a slow cooker?

Woah woah woah... seems like a loaded question

whoa whoa whoa...a $1500 slow cooker exists?

whoa whoa whoah... I think there was an extra zero

Or a missing decimal.  $15.00

Also wtf happened to my end quote bracket?  I swear this forum software sometimes just leaves it off when I hit quote and I never notice it until I come back and reread the fucked up post.

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« Reply #15889 on: November 19, 2016, 06:34:42 AM »
I also have all three of those appliances, 2 purchased before we were married because we cooked like human beings before that time. Together the probably cost $150

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« Reply #15890 on: November 19, 2016, 10:49:31 AM »
Yeah, I'll play this sidebar:
- 3 Crock pots, 2 inherited, 1 a long-ago Christmas gift from my parents.
- 1 large food processor, garage saled
- 1 small food processor, 30+ year old gift that I used until I scored a bigger one. I still use it.
- Garage saled new blades for each of them a few years ago.
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- 2 waffle irons: 1 a housewarming gift in the 80's, 1 a garage saled Belgian Wafffler
- My Calphalon cookware consists of pieces I got through a friend via his huge Friends & Family Discount. (He had a fun post-FIRE side gig as a demonstrator for them.) The rest I inherited from him when he died. Cool bequest. Still miss him. Gave me his canning stuff, too. RIP, Earl D.

And, drumroll please, for the most decadent of all:

- 2 brand-new Instant Pots, purchased last year on Amazon Prime Day! I think of them as a wedding gift to ourselves, because we eloped in 2012. I use them every week, to the dismay of the old Crock-Pots. They think they've been abandoned in the lost toy cupboard, but I'll shine them up and use them over the holidays.

I cook for four adults every day and all of our kitchen equipment gets used regularly.

Just for fun: I'm FIRE and our NW exceeds $2M, on lower than average salaries in a very HCOLA.

So, what is your point, exactly, kayvent? Or were you just venting?
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« Reply #15891 on: November 19, 2016, 11:10:26 AM »
Nothing about the foam in California yet? Fits right in here.

Ha! Yes.  I'd love to hear the conversation when workers showed up for that shift.
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« Reply #15892 on: November 19, 2016, 02:56:32 PM »
So, what is your point, exactly, kayvent?

I was just surprised. I went to three random colleagues and they all had gotten slow cookers as wedding gifts. It seemed kinda bizarre that they all had such similar wedding gifts. It is [like if you walk into a store and you see everyone wearing a blue shirt and khaki pants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgUIbPfhSuo). You'd suspect something was up if you didn't know better. Apparently I didn't. :)

A few nights ago when I told RL friends this story they looked at me dumbfounded. The wife of the couple looked at me and asked if I knew what a bridal registry was. She explained it to me and explained that it is quite common to have lavish items on it. Like 1500$ slow cookers or a plate set for 20$/plate.

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« Reply #15893 on: November 19, 2016, 03:06:37 PM »
She explained it to me and explained that it is quite common to have lavish items on it. Like 1500$ slow cookers or a plate set for 20$/plate.

I still don't understand this $1,500 slow cooker claim.  You can get a basic slow cooker for like $20, and several others are in the $40 to $140 range.  Even searching for the most expensive slow cooker, I can't find any over $600.  Is the $1,500 slow cooker a commercial grade machine that a restaurant might buy?

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« Reply #15894 on: November 19, 2016, 03:32:43 PM »
I've got one that I think takes the cake..
I work with a woman who is 31 yrs old and is an engineer like me, so she makes very similar to my $50k.  She commutes 50 miles to a town-house an hour and a half from work.  She complains at least once a week about her financial situation and for YEARS now I've really been feeling bad for her.. Her husband has made $34,000/yr for the last 5 years, they can't afford to move, she desperately wants kids but there's no way for her and her husband to afford kids.  She 'needs' a new car but can't afford one, and they want to move into a single family home.  They had (2) car payments, big mortgage on the town home, etc.
After genuinely feeling sorry for her situation (that she put herself in with her crazy commute, among other things), I found out she inherited $80,000 with the death of her grandmother.  This could be LIFE CHANGING for her since they could pay off some debt (credit card AND both vehicles AND have plenty to invest still).......
Then 2 months later I found out what the actually did with the money.. They used it to put a driveway and 'entrance gate' on a very high-end fishing cabin for her husband.  This cabin wasn't even built yet - they used that $80,000 to continue a process that her father in law has been working on for almost 10 years building this cabin.   I said "oh did you decide not to start a family?" which was probably aggressive but she complained for over 5 years about debt and then she was given the golden ticket and squandered it.  Her response was "Well Nick (her husband) and his dad REALLY like fishing...".  Hmm..
Needless to say, this was 5 years ago and the cabin has not progressed after that $80,000 and she's back to complaining about debt and dreams that could have been.

Poor lady. It sounds like she wants kids and he does not.

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« Reply #15895 on: November 20, 2016, 03:43:19 AM »
She explained it to me and explained that it is quite common to have lavish items on it. Like 1500$ slow cookers or a plate set for 20$/plate.

I still don't understand this $1,500 slow cooker claim.  You can get a basic slow cooker for like $20, and several others are in the $40 to $140 range.  Even searching for the most expensive slow cooker, I can't find any over $600.  Is the $1,500 slow cooker a commercial grade machine that a restaurant might buy?
Is there confusion between what a slow cooker/crockpot is and what a Thermomix is perhaps? Thermomix is the only thing I can think of with that kind of price tag.

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« Reply #15896 on: November 20, 2016, 01:58:04 PM »
1. Go to amazon.com
2. search "rice cooker"
3. sort by "Price: High to Low"
4. Be amazed that not only is there one for $1808.66, but it's also $131.70 in shipping

It is for industrial use though.
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« Reply #15897 on: November 20, 2016, 03:34:54 PM »
How many people can you feed with 60 cups of rice?

Like.. 30?  Maybe 45?

(Assuming it's a side dish.)
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« Reply #15898 on: November 20, 2016, 05:44:26 PM »
This chat at work is driving me crazy:

Colleague A (who I really like in general) has started working a part-time job on top of her full-time job, because she needs to earn more money.
Because:
She's inherited 10,000 and therefore wants to use it as a deposit on a flat. So far so good. However she recently bought a car on finance, and presumably has other finance issues, so the bank won't give her a mortgage unless she's earning over 25,000. Hence the part-time side hustle to bump up her overall wage.
Management found out and sent round an email telling us all that we have to ask permission before we get a part-time side hustle incase it affects our work/there's a conflict of interest.

So on the one hand, I think management have no business dictating whether we can get an extra job - and also loads of people have done this in the past and they're only now cottoning on to the fact.

BUT

On the other hand, it is complainy-pants central now in the office. A lot of complaining about how it is impossible for anyone to get a mortage on the wages we get paid. Younger people are having a full-on war with older people about how unfair it is on the younger generation who can't afford to buy homes, etc, and the older (i.e management) generation are stopping them from realising their dreams.
Except, I earn less than 25,000 a year, and I saved less than 10,000 of a deposit, and I bought a flat, THIS YEAR. And my bank gave me mortgage, presumably because I didn't have a massive car loan and tons of other debt already.
Yet nobody is suggesting that it's more about Colleague A's financial decisions. Nope, it's all the fault of our employer.
UUGH.
She also buys a lot of clothes and goes out to fancy bars, etc.

I really like this woman - she's a great person. But all of this is just melting my brain.

 Well done on saving the deposit and buying a flat!

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« Reply #15899 on: November 20, 2016, 07:54:26 PM »
So, what is your point, exactly, kayvent?

I was just surprised. I went to three random colleagues and they all had gotten slow cookers as wedding gifts. It seemed kinda bizarre that they all had such similar wedding gifts. It is [like if you walk into a store and you see everyone wearing a blue shirt and khaki pants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgUIbPfhSuo). You'd suspect something was up if you didn't know better. Apparently I didn't. :)

A few nights ago when I told RL friends this story they looked at me dumbfounded. The wife of the couple looked at me and asked if I knew what a bridal registry was. She explained it to me and explained that it is quite common to have lavish items on it. Like 1500$ slow cookers or a plate set for 20$/plate.

<sarcasm>Now I know why some people choose to get married multiple times.</sarcasm>

I guess I can see the confusion, but yes typically people will register all the "regular kitchen stuff' for wedding gifts, and most people would want those items.  So I guess the antimustachian part is asking for all of those things? 

I don't personally have a slow cooker or food processor because I use a pressure cooker and don't make anything requiring a food processor.  Is there anything that actually requires a food processor?