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« Reply #14550 on: August 15, 2016, 12:23:11 PM »
I finally joined the fun!

Overheard at my wife's work:
CW and his wife are buying their first house and are moving in a week or so.  They went to a pet store/breeder, his wife fell in love with a purebred dog (didn't hear what kind).  CW figures it'll be about $800... Nope.  $2,500. 

CW objects because they can't afford it, but she reeeeeally wants it, so they finance it.

Not sure what the rate or duration is, but hopefully they're not completely caught off guard by home and dog maintenance costs.
Finance... a dog. Okay, I LOVE dogs. I want a dog some women my age want a baby (but am not at a stage in my life where dog ownership is responsible). But why go into debt for a dog? There are millions of dogs that need homes that you could get for nearly free!


Although I guess on the plus side, maybe being in dog debt will prevent them from dumping the dog if they get tired of it--which happens to many impulse-buy dogs.

Reminds me of my youthful naivety. Granted I grew up in rural area, but I had no idea people just gave up dogs. In my mind all the dogs at shelters were strays or new puppies. I was probably 20 before I realized in horror that some people just get rid of their dog!

You're lucky - we keep getting asshats from the city who drive to our rural area to dump off dogs that they no longer want. If they're lucky, they're found by someone who adopts them.

Otherwise, well... how many pampered house pets do YOU think know how to survive in the wild? We find them half-starved, half-feral, and full of worms, assuming they've evaded the coyotes and wolves, and the local vet will put them down at cost if you manage to catch them and bring 'em in, because at that point there's not much else to be done.

Let's just say that the past 30 years of seeing minimum 2-3 dogs who fit that description every year have given me a really jaded view of human affection for dogs. Asshats.

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« Reply #14551 on: August 15, 2016, 01:21:55 PM »
I did explain that books are made in factories, travel in shipping containers, get unloaded by some Saturday kid who's probably been to the loo and not washed his hands, then picked his nose... not to mentioned fondled by shoppers, scanned by the shop assistant etc.

Apparently that is fine, library germs are not. Interestingly the friend in question would happily read library books elsewhere in the home... just not in bed. I wish we had a 'mind-boggled' emoticon.

As a licensed germaphobe, there's a pretty big difference between someone touching the cover (which is easily cleaned) and dozens of people touching every single page of the book. Most of the paper in a new book will be untouched by human hands

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« Reply #14552 on: August 15, 2016, 02:03:00 PM »
I did explain that books are made in factories, travel in shipping containers, get unloaded by some Saturday kid who's probably been to the loo and not washed his hands, then picked his nose... not to mentioned fondled by shoppers, scanned by the shop assistant etc.

Apparently that is fine, library germs are not. Interestingly the friend in question would happily read library books elsewhere in the home... just not in bed. I wish we had a 'mind-boggled' emoticon.

As a licensed germaphobe, there's a pretty big difference between someone touching the cover (which is easily cleaned) and dozens of people touching every single page of the book. Most of the paper in a new book will be untouched by human hands

Sometimes when I check out a hard-cover library book, if it looks kinda old or icky, I will cover it with a paper bag, like how we used to do as kids covering school textbooks.  And I get a little cringe when I get to a page that looks dirty, but then I just don't touch the page there.  I don't feel physical anxiety over the shipper, stocker, cashier, etc.  I realize this line-drawing is nonsensical, but I am just doing what alleviates my anxiety, which is not escalating and not hindering my life's enjoyment.

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« Reply #14553 on: August 15, 2016, 03:08:29 PM »
I did explain that books are made in factories, travel in shipping containers, get unloaded by some Saturday kid who's probably been to the loo and not washed his hands, then picked his nose... not to mentioned fondled by shoppers, scanned by the shop assistant etc.

Apparently that is fine, library germs are not. Interestingly the friend in question would happily read library books elsewhere in the home... just not in bed. I wish we had a 'mind-boggled' emoticon.

As a licensed germaphobe, there's a pretty big difference between someone touching the cover (which is easily cleaned) and dozens of people touching every single page of the book. Most of the paper in a new book will be untouched by human hands

so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.

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« Reply #14554 on: August 15, 2016, 03:21:40 PM »
so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.

Because people like me will keep buying them

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« Reply #14555 on: August 15, 2016, 03:32:05 PM »
I did explain that books are made in factories, travel in shipping containers, get unloaded by some Saturday kid who's probably been to the loo and not washed his hands, then picked his nose... not to mentioned fondled by shoppers, scanned by the shop assistant etc.

Apparently that is fine, library germs are not. Interestingly the friend in question would happily read library books elsewhere in the home... just not in bed. I wish we had a 'mind-boggled' emoticon.

As a licensed germaphobe, there's a pretty big difference between someone touching the cover (which is easily cleaned) and dozens of people touching every single page of the book. Most of the paper in a new book will be untouched by human hands

so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.

Yes.  I don't personally have a problem with library books besides the inconvenience of physical medium.  But I can understand the reasoning for why library books are more gross than "new" books.

P.S. Does anyone else keep their kindle in a ziplock bag to keep it safe from germs and pool water?

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« Reply #14556 on: August 15, 2016, 03:45:09 PM »

P.S. Does anyone else keep their kindle in a ziplock bag to keep it safe from germs and pool water?
I use a ziplock back for my phone when I'm going to a place/situation where it might get wet, but never for reasons of germs

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« Reply #14557 on: August 15, 2016, 03:49:42 PM »
P.S. Does anyone else keep their kindle in a ziplock bag to keep it safe from germs and pool water?

I keep a plastic bag under the bathroom sink specifically for bathtub reading purposes.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14558 on: August 15, 2016, 04:13:21 PM »
My supervisor wants to buy a throne for her dining room table.  Everyone else would have to sit in a regular chair.  This little gem she showed me is only $900:



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« Reply #14559 on: August 15, 2016, 04:52:18 PM »
In fairness, $900 sounds like a not terrible deal on a throne.


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« Reply #14560 on: August 15, 2016, 05:20:18 PM »

so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14561 on: August 15, 2016, 06:05:36 PM »
Overheard at my wife's work:
CW and his wife are buying their first house and are moving in a week or so.  They went to a pet store/breeder, his wife fell in love with a purebred dog (didn't hear what kind).  CW figures it'll be about $800... Nope.  $2,500. 

I'm all for having dogs and I have even had a rescue pure bread dog (beautiful and loving fluffball but not that smart).  There are some things I will even pay $2500 for, however I will not pay $2500 for something that eats its own poop, if given the chance.
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« Reply #14562 on: August 15, 2016, 07:27:00 PM »
Overheard at my wife's work:
CW and his wife are buying their first house and are moving in a week or so.  They went to a pet store/breeder, his wife fell in love with a purebred dog (didn't hear what kind).  CW figures it'll be about $800... Nope.  $2,500. 

I'm all for having dogs and I have even had a rescue pure bread dog (beautiful and loving fluffball but not that smart).  There are some things I will even pay $2500 for, however I will not pay $2500 for something that eats its own poop, if given the chance.

The upfront cost of that 2500 dog is very small compared to the cost of owning it for years afterwards. If all dogs cost 2500 to buy upfront we'd have less getting dumped in rural areas.

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« Reply #14563 on: August 15, 2016, 07:43:27 PM »
Overheard at my wife's work:
CW and his wife are buying their first house and are moving in a week or so.  They went to a pet store/breeder, his wife fell in love with a purebred dog (didn't hear what kind).  CW figures it'll be about $800... Nope.  $2,500. 

I'm all for having dogs and I have even had a rescue pure bread dog (beautiful and loving fluffball but not that smart).  There are some things I will even pay $2500 for, however I will not pay $2500 for something that eats its own poop, if given the chance.

The upfront cost of that 2500 dog is very small compared to the cost of owning it for years afterwards. If all dogs cost 2500 to buy upfront we'd have less getting dumped in rural areas.

The purebreeds are a minefield of health issues. Breeds of dogs aren't separate species but inbreeding gone crazy.

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« Reply #14564 on: August 16, 2016, 02:46:54 AM »
[ I have even had a rescue pure bread dog

Does a pure bread dog go moldy after a few months?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14565 on: August 16, 2016, 03:56:35 AM »
On the topic of dogs. Overheard a co worker talking about their friend. $15k on 3 nights in dog hospital and the dog died.




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« Reply #14566 on: August 16, 2016, 05:02:15 AM »
[ I have even had a rescue pure bread dog

Does a pure bread dog go moldy after a few months?

I think there was an article a few years back about a pure bread maker.. could save on the upfront cost of the pure bread dog.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14567 on: August 16, 2016, 05:36:26 AM »
Re the germs on books: what are they doing to the books that would make germs a problem? Licking them? Are these a very particular genre of book?

Yes, there will be germs on the books, just like there will be germs on the clothes you take off. This is why you have hand sanitizer by the bed (and, I presume, a sheep dip or spray can of sanitizer for any bed companion that you plan on licking).

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« Reply #14568 on: August 16, 2016, 06:22:56 AM »
Re the germs on books: what are they doing to the books that would make germs a problem? Licking them? Are these a very particular genre of book?

Yes, there will be germs on the books, just like there will be germs on the clothes you take off. This is why you have hand sanitizer by the bed (and, I presume, a sheep dip or spray can of sanitizer for any bed companion that you plan on licking).

I don't have hand sanitizer by the bed, and certainly wouldn't use it after reading a book.  Unless you're immuno-compromised germs are pretty good for you . . . they keep your immune system functioning properly and they keep your digestive system working properly.  The potential of an insignificant amount of germ contact from a book from the library is a feature, not a bug.

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« Reply #14569 on: August 16, 2016, 06:27:07 AM »
Re the germs on books: what are they doing to the books that would make germs a problem? Licking them? Are these a very particular genre of book?

Yes, there will be germs on the books, just like there will be germs on the clothes you take off. This is why you have hand sanitizer by the bed (and, I presume, a sheep dip or spray can of sanitizer for any bed companion that you plan on licking).

I think it has to do with what's on their hands as a result of reading the books in bed. Fifty Shades of Something...
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« Reply #14570 on: August 16, 2016, 06:49:01 AM »
I'm more worried about bed bugs lurking in the book covers. It only takes 5 seconds per book to look, and potentially saves you months of headaches.

Not that it's ever happened to me, but you know what they say about prevention...

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« Reply #14571 on: August 16, 2016, 06:54:14 AM »
so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.
Because every time I buy a book (no that often anymore), paper books are cheaper than digital.  And used paper backs are even cheaper.

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« Reply #14572 on: August 16, 2016, 07:03:51 AM »
so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.
Because every time I buy a book (no that often anymore), paper books are cheaper than digital.  And used paper backs are even cheaper.

But the library is free!

(ours does ebook lending, but I don't have a compatible device)

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« Reply #14573 on: August 16, 2016, 07:14:41 AM »
[ I have even had a rescue pure bread dog

Does a pure bread dog go moldy after a few months?

I think there was an article a few years back about a pure bread maker.. could save on the upfront cost of the pure bread dog.

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« Reply #14574 on: August 16, 2016, 08:40:44 AM »

so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.


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« Reply #14575 on: August 16, 2016, 08:52:05 AM »

so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.


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I see the picture came from the History channel but we don't have cable TV. Who is that guy? Bad hair day?

He was always claiming that the reason for something unexplained on a program was due to aliens.

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« Reply #14576 on: August 16, 2016, 09:14:29 AM »

so then you must love the digital age where paper books are no longer necessary and i still have no idea why they are still even published.


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I see the picture came from the History channel but we don't have cable TV. Who is that guy? Bad hair day?

He was always claiming that the reason for something unexplained on a program was due to aliens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKvWiToj8Y

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« Reply #14577 on: August 16, 2016, 02:00:31 PM »
Thanks folks. I'm a little more educated this afternoon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_A._Tsoukalos

He just makes this stuff up as the cameras roll doesn't he??? ;)

One of the comments below the YouTube video suggested that his college drug use must have left an indelible mark. 
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« Reply #14578 on: August 16, 2016, 05:22:49 PM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

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« Reply #14579 on: August 16, 2016, 05:54:50 PM »
Overheard at my wife's work:
CW and his wife are buying their first house and are moving in a week or so.  They went to a pet store/breeder, his wife fell in love with a purebred dog (didn't hear what kind).  CW figures it'll be about $800... Nope.  $2,500. 

I'm all for having dogs and I have even had a rescue pure bread dog (beautiful and loving fluffball but not that smart).  There are some things I will even pay $2500 for, however I will not pay $2500 for something that eats its own poop, if given the chance.

The upfront cost of that 2500 dog is very small compared to the cost of owning it for years afterwards. If all dogs cost 2500 to buy upfront we'd have less getting dumped in rural areas.

...and a lot of sad little boys and girls who could never own a dog because of the upfront cost. Ours, for one example.

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« Reply #14580 on: August 16, 2016, 06:14:06 PM »

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

Reminds me of people the anti-vaccine crowd.

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« Reply #14581 on: August 16, 2016, 07:22:01 PM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

What was even worse: finding it in the sparsely populated documentary section of Barnes and Noble, re-shelving it properly in the fiction section, telling the clerk what I'd done because I'd found the DVDs mis-shelved, and having her say: "But that's where it's supposed to be."

Me: "No, documentaries are based on some kind of scientific or historical research. This is entertainment TV, kind of like that show about the zombie apocalypse."

Clerk: "But it's from National Geographic."

Me: "National Geographic was bought by Fox, and hasn't done a cultural anthropology documentary in years. They show all kinds of things that aren't documentaries. This for example is a satire."

Clerk: "But it's corporate policy to put it in with the documentaries."

Me: "I notice you have very few of them compared to a couple years ago. Maybe you should make the section smaller or maybe see what's being produced internationally."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

Me: "It's fashionable to be pig-ignorant these days, and I get that your corporate policies reflect that, but we're all adults here and it's OK if we think for ourselves."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.
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« Reply #14582 on: August 16, 2016, 08:11:38 PM »
A lowly cashier doesn't give a damn how movies are categorized.  I worked retail and could not have cared less how we displayed clothes. Corporate sent us a model photo. We copied it. I would have responded much the same way she did if a customer repeatedly told me why our display was "wrong".
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« Reply #14583 on: August 16, 2016, 08:12:44 PM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

What was even worse: finding it in the sparsely populated documentary section of Barnes and Noble, re-shelving it properly in the fiction section, telling the clerk what I'd done because I'd found the DVDs mis-shelved, and having her say: "But that's where it's supposed to be."

Me: "No, documentaries are based on some kind of scientific or historical research. This is entertainment TV, kind of like that show about the zombie apocalypse."

Clerk: "But it's from National Geographic."

Me: "National Geographic was bought by Fox, and hasn't done a cultural anthropology documentary in years. They show all kinds of things that aren't documentaries. This for example is a satire."

Clerk: "But it's corporate policy to put it in with the documentaries."

Me: "I notice you have very few of them compared to a couple years ago. Maybe you should make the section smaller or maybe see what's being produced internationally."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

Me: "It's fashionable to be pig-ignorant these days, and I get that your corporate policies reflect that, but we're all adults here and it's OK if we think for ourselves."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.

Just to clarify, you got in some sort of pissing match with a bookstore employee over where a DVD was shelved?  Uh...congrats?  You win?
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« Reply #14584 on: August 16, 2016, 08:19:38 PM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

What was even worse: finding it in the sparsely populated documentary section of Barnes and Noble, re-shelving it properly in the fiction section, telling the clerk what I'd done because I'd found the DVDs mis-shelved, and having her say: "But that's where it's supposed to be."

Me: "No, documentaries are based on some kind of scientific or historical research. This is entertainment TV, kind of like that show about the zombie apocalypse."

Clerk: "But it's from National Geographic."

Me: "National Geographic was bought by Fox, and hasn't done a cultural anthropology documentary in years. They show all kinds of things that aren't documentaries. This for example is a satire."

Clerk: "But it's corporate policy to put it in with the documentaries."

Me: "I notice you have very few of them compared to a couple years ago. Maybe you should make the section smaller or maybe see what's being produced internationally."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

Me: "It's fashionable to be pig-ignorant these days, and I get that your corporate policies reflect that, but we're all adults here and it's OK if we think for ourselves."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.

Just to clarify, you got in some sort of pissing match with a bookstore employee over where a DVD was shelved?  Uh...congrats?  You win?

Thank God I am not the only one that noticed that!


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« Reply #14585 on: August 16, 2016, 10:31:48 PM »
Just to clarify, you got in some sort of pissing match with a bookstore employee over where a DVD was shelved?  Uh...congrats?  You win?

Even if she had agreed with him, she still shouldn't move it because then it would be wrong in the system for every other employee that might try to find it.  Corporate policies might not make sense 100% of the time, but standardization has its own value.

Also wage slaves at a big chain have no control over these things.

When I worked at Caribou people would tell us things like "you know Starbucks doesn't charge for soy.  I would come here more if you didn't charge."  K.  I don't GaF.  If you don't like my store go to another store, but I'm not gonna get up on a step ladder and cross out the charge on the menu boards sent by corporate.

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« Reply #14586 on: August 17, 2016, 03:14:11 AM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

What was even worse: finding it in the sparsely populated documentary section of Barnes and Noble, re-shelving it properly in the fiction section, telling the clerk what I'd done because I'd found the DVDs mis-shelved, and having her say: "But that's where it's supposed to be."

Me: "No, documentaries are based on some kind of scientific or historical research. This is entertainment TV, kind of like that show about the zombie apocalypse."

Clerk: "But it's from National Geographic."

Me: "National Geographic was bought by Fox, and hasn't done a cultural anthropology documentary in years. They show all kinds of things that aren't documentaries. This for example is a satire."

Clerk: "But it's corporate policy to put it in with the documentaries."

Me: "I notice you have very few of them compared to a couple years ago. Maybe you should make the section smaller or maybe see what's being produced internationally."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

Me: "It's fashionable to be pig-ignorant these days, and I get that your corporate policies reflect that, but we're all adults here and it's OK if we think for ourselves."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.
You do realise that it is legitimate to classify it as non-fiction, right? Fiction is based on what the creator of the work has purported to be not real (like Harry Potter is fiction since JK Rowling isn't really saying there is a wizard with a scar on his forehead in the real world) but nonfiction applies to works even when they are factually dubious like documentaries about aliens, religious texts, etc as the mere fact that they are asserted to be true by the creator means they are nonfiction.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14587 on: August 17, 2016, 07:21:59 AM »
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« Reply #14588 on: August 17, 2016, 07:33:31 AM »
Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.

Or like a bookstore clerk doesn't just get to put things wherever she thinks they fit best.

Imagine the scene:
"Hmmm, I'm looking for the book Bossypants.  It's supposed to be right here in the humor section, but I don't see it."
"Oh, Bob didn't think it was funny so he shelved it in general fiction instead."
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« Reply #14589 on: August 17, 2016, 07:48:45 AM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

What was even worse: finding it in the sparsely populated documentary section of Barnes and Noble, re-shelving it properly in the fiction section, telling the clerk what I'd done because I'd found the DVDs mis-shelved, and having her say: "But that's where it's supposed to be."

Me: "No, documentaries are based on some kind of scientific or historical research. This is entertainment TV, kind of like that show about the zombie apocalypse."

Clerk: "But it's from National Geographic."

Me: "National Geographic was bought by Fox, and hasn't done a cultural anthropology documentary in years. They show all kinds of things that aren't documentaries. This for example is a satire."

Clerk: "But it's corporate policy to put it in with the documentaries."

Me: "I notice you have very few of them compared to a couple years ago. Maybe you should make the section smaller or maybe see what's being produced internationally."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

Me: "It's fashionable to be pig-ignorant these days, and I get that your corporate policies reflect that, but we're all adults here and it's OK if we think for ourselves."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.

Corporate zombie - instead of saying "BRAINS", they say "IT'S CORPORATE POLICY"

did you also move the bible and all christian related books to this section as well?

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« Reply #14590 on: August 17, 2016, 08:17:47 AM »

The upfront cost of that 2500 dog is very small compared to the cost of owning it for years afterwards. If all dogs cost 2500 to buy upfront we'd have less getting dumped in rural areas.

I hope I got the quoting right.

Maybe certain breeds are really expensive??? grooming needs for example?

I had two mixed breeds dumped on me 25 years ago. I spent $75 each to get them spayed, annual shots which were ~$10, each stepped on glass once and needed stitches (odd), and food. Good dogs.

We've rescued two purebred bird dogs in the years since and both needed the same as the mixed breeds and nothing more. Our cats have been even cheaper b/c they eat less and require no maintenance aside form rabies shots.

We buy good dog food from the farmer's co-op and buy flea pills. We trim the tangled fur and burrs out ourselves occasionally. A dog brush lasts forever. We bathe her in the bathtub ourselves for pennies (generic baby shampoo).

All of them have been great family dogs and I'm glad our kids have known them.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14591 on: August 17, 2016, 08:21:05 AM »
Hello. I check out library books and then read them on the toilet while I poop. Please feel free to spray any and all books with lysol.

Thanks.

TMI....

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« Reply #14592 on: August 17, 2016, 08:51:27 AM »
Pretty much.

Husband made me download an episode of Ancient Aliens last week because I'd never seen it and didn't know who he was. It was about how the people we suspect are ancient aliens (you know, the ones who built the pyramids and easter island statues) may in fact be time travelling humans from the future.

They were deadly serious about it too. Provided "evidence" and everything. It was truly scary the way they thought.

What was even worse: finding it in the sparsely populated documentary section of Barnes and Noble, re-shelving it properly in the fiction section, telling the clerk what I'd done because I'd found the DVDs mis-shelved, and having her say: "But that's where it's supposed to be."

Me: "No, documentaries are based on some kind of scientific or historical research. This is entertainment TV, kind of like that show about the zombie apocalypse."

Clerk: "But it's from National Geographic."

Me: "National Geographic was bought by Fox, and hasn't done a cultural anthropology documentary in years. They show all kinds of things that aren't documentaries. This for example is a satire."

Clerk: "But it's corporate policy to put it in with the documentaries."

Me: "I notice you have very few of them compared to a couple years ago. Maybe you should make the section smaller or maybe see what's being produced internationally."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

Me: "It's fashionable to be pig-ignorant these days, and I get that your corporate policies reflect that, but we're all adults here and it's OK if we think for ourselves."

Clerk: "It's corporate policy."

She just kind of kept repeating that. It's like the aliens ate her brain or something.
You do realise that it is legitimate to classify it as non-fiction, right? Fiction is based on what the creator of the work has purported to be not real (like Harry Potter is fiction since JK Rowling isn't really saying there is a wizard with a scar on his forehead in the real world) but nonfiction applies to works even when they are factually dubious like documentaries about aliens, religious texts, etc as the mere fact that they are asserted to be true by the creator means they are nonfiction.

Books are treated differently from DVDs by stores that sell them. Having a separate section for religious and inspirational material tiptoes past the fiction/nonfiction debate.

It's possible format plays a role in whether something is considered nonfiction, but it's not consistent. They seem to be pretty picky as to what makes it in, and what doesn't.

I found "Ray", "Coach Carter", and "Noah" in the drama section, "42" and "Gettysburg" in the history section, and "La Vie En Rose" and "The Josephine Baker Story" with the music and entertainment movies. They're all dramatizations, but only "42" and "Gettysburg" make it into the nonfiction section. Meanwhile, "This Is Spinal Tap" and "Farce of the Penguins" are found with the comedies (correctly, I think) while "Some Kind of Monster" is in with the live music. "Up The Yangtze" is in the history section. The latter four films are all in a contemporary live documentary format, where the filmmakers follow people or animals around with a camera, and sometimes interview them or do voice-over explanations of scenes that they edit together. "Up The Yangtze" is taken seriously but "Some Kind of Monster" isn't.

It seems to me that if the aliens make the cut, then "Ray" and "The Josephine Baker Story" ought to be accorded the same respect. Maybe even religious films like "Noah" should be brought in. But they aren't. "Noah" and "The Ten Commandments" are in the drama section.

It's probably a moot point anyway. Streaming sales are gradually phasing out DVD sales, and five years from now DVDs will most likely go the same way as VHS. It's possible to classify a film several ways online, so genre identity is going to be more fluid in the future.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14593 on: August 17, 2016, 08:59:11 AM »
did you also move the bible and all christian related books to this section as well?

No, they already have their own section. Possibly the fact/not-fact issue came up in the past and the stores just bypassed it. Most films based on religious stories are categorized as dramas. "Noah" comes to mind as does "The Ten Commandments".

Anyway, the whole story was leading up to a joke about genre identity.
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« Reply #14594 on: August 17, 2016, 09:17:53 AM »
did you also move the bible and all christian related books to this section as well?

No, they already have their own section. Possibly the fact/not-fact issue came up in the past and the stores just bypassed it. Most films based on religious stories are categorized as dramas. "Noah" comes to mind as does "The Ten Commandments".

Anyway, the whole story was leading up to a joke about genre identity.

Hahaha! The fluidity of genre identity?

Yup. Whole point of entire post.
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« Reply #14595 on: August 17, 2016, 11:22:17 AM »
Thanks everybody who made me laff today.  I needed it.  (Kids come back in two days and I just found out I might lose my classroom.)

You guys are some funny fuckers.

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« Reply #14596 on: August 17, 2016, 11:24:31 AM »
did you also move the bible and all christian related books to this section as well?

No, they already have their own section. Possibly the fact/not-fact issue came up in the past and the stores just bypassed it. Most films based on religious stories are categorized as dramas. "Noah" comes to mind as does "The Ten Commandments".

Anyway, the whole story was leading up to a joke about genre identity.

Hahaha! The fluidity of genre identity?
So which bathroom do nonfiction books use?
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« Reply #14597 on: August 17, 2016, 12:09:49 PM »
did you also move the bible and all christian related books to this section as well?

No, they already have their own section. Possibly the fact/not-fact issue came up in the past and the stores just bypassed it. Most films based on religious stories are categorized as dramas. "Noah" comes to mind as does "The Ten Commandments".

Anyway, the whole story was leading up to a joke about genre identity.

Hahaha! The fluidity of genre identity?
So which bathroom do nonfiction books use?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #14598 on: August 17, 2016, 01:28:52 PM »
On the topic of dogs. Overheard a co worker talking about their friend. $15k on 3 nights in dog hospital and the dog died.
We adopted a rescue kitten in June and 3 weeks later I blew a grand watching him die in a hospital. My first thought after all the initial emotional shit was "Oh god, don't tell the MMM forum..."

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« Reply #14599 on: August 17, 2016, 01:34:38 PM »
On the topic of dogs. Overheard a co worker talking about their friend. $15k on 3 nights in dog hospital and the dog died.
We adopted a rescue kitten in June and 3 weeks later I blew a grand watching him die in a hospital. My first thought after all the initial emotional shit was "Oh god, don't tell the MMM forum..."

It happens. I'm guessing you're able to afford it.

I know that if I ever get a dog, it's going to be hard to make those decisions, especially when the dog ages. It likely will turn into a showdown between my rational side and my emotional one. What's funny is that a good chunk of mine friend's tell me that I'm not a "feeler" (Myers Briggs), whereas the engineers and other logic based people chide me for being more emotional than them.