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« Reply #11950 on: January 17, 2016, 11:17:30 AM »

From my understanding, that was only because a nurse noticed the problem; and after all, what could she know about medical science!

Incorrect. It was a doctor who championed this advice. Ignaz Semmelweis. It was met with considerable resistance and ridicule because the medical cocommunity wasn't willing to consider that they could be directly responsible for the deaths of patients and the spread of infections.

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« Reply #11951 on: January 18, 2016, 10:54:30 AM »
I thought it was obvious it was a joke.

It was, I laughed.  Though to be fair, it's hard to read sarcasm over text.  But to be even more fair, that was pretty obvious sarcasm (to me).

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« Reply #11952 on: January 18, 2016, 12:44:13 PM »
More of an oversaw at work.  So for the last couple of years I've seen this very pricey BMW in the parking lot, the specialty license plate is O mst Go and the rear end is covered in Obama is an illegal immigrant, NObama (and more recently pro donald trump stickers).  For years I've been mentally profiling the owner without realizing it as the plethora of non removable, hate spewing, racist crap stickers increased.  I always figured old white man bitter that he's still working. 

Well today the owner of this car pulled into the space besides me and I saw them for the first time....95 lb Asian woman with a couple of Costco sized crates of cat food in the back seat, along with her cat print laptop bag and the radio was blaring some political AM station that was denouncing on how white people can't afford to live in this country any more, and how the Demoncraps have ruined this once great nation etc....yup, threw me for a loop.  The biggest anti Obama person in our office park is a crazy Asian cat lady folks.

**PS I'm also owned by a couple of cats, this just struck me as a huh....didn't see THAT one coming.

You didn't see that coming, probably because you have likely never taken the time to actually consider the viewpoints of your opposition. I am not a republican, but I've known many Asian republicans.  In my own experience, the Asian republican is more common than the American-of-African-Decent republican; but that might just be a local thing.  I'd challenge you to ask her about her real perspectives.  If you were to honestly consider them, I'd wager that you'd find that her responses are much more thoughtful than what you expected, and certainly more thoughtful than a bumper sticker slogan.  You probably would still disagree, but you might gain a better appreciation for differing viewpoints.

MoonShadow, I have to ask: do you often talk to vile-spewing racists, and have them respond thoughtfully?


Beltim, do you honestly think that an Asian woman driving a nice car with anti-Obama stickers is racist?

I don't think an Asian woman is racist because she is driving a nice car with anti-Obama stickers.  MishMash said she had "hate spewing, racist stickers" on the car (that's why I bolded that section).  That could make her racist, yes.

I'd say that is more likely to reflect upon MishMash's interpretations of anti-Obama bumper sticker slogans generally than the inner thoughts of a random Asian woman.  Actual quotes of said bumper stickers might be helpful here.
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And to your response, how can you possibly know anything about how much MishMash has considered the viewpoints of her opposition?  It sure looks like you jumped to a conclusion there.

Obviously, there has been a whole lot of jumping going on.  Based upon what you write in other political threads, I'm surprised you're not exhausted yourself.

So yes, you jumped to a conclusion.

Yes, of course I did.  So did you.  So did MishMash, for that matter; which is why he was surprised.  Prey tell, how would any of us avoid conclusion jumping, based only upon a single forum post without any photos?

See I started the foam on this thread, my apologies everyone.

 Moonshadow, you and I will probably never see eye to eye, we haven't on pretty much anything you've posted, but seriously, you need to learn to take things at face value and not think everything is a conspiracy theory or that "someone's out to get ya".  When I say racist bumper stickers...I mean RACIST bumper stickers, not my interpretation of them.  I wasn't going to elaborate on them since I don't think any of them are worth so much as someone googling them, and dare someone actually click on one and give the creator a pay per click bump for perpetuating racism.  But, since you want to put your overly obviously biased opinions out there, she's got more then a couple with non veiled monkey comparisons. a 2012 one stating don't re-Nig in 2012, a reference to only idiots (with the O being the campaign symbol) are from Kenya or something along those lines.

PS I'm originally registered as a Republican, I'm now pretty much an independent as political parties seem to take turns selecting the most bat shit crazy politicians for election.  Around here though the stereotype on those types of bumper stickers is solidly in the old white men category heck, we are in DC after all.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11953 on: January 18, 2016, 06:10:05 PM »
When I say racist bumper stickers...I mean RACIST bumper stickers, not my interpretation of them.  I wasn't going to elaborate on them since I don't think any of them are worth so much as someone googling them, and dare someone actually click on one and give the creator a pay per click bump for perpetuating racism.  But, since you want to put your overly obviously biased opinions out there, she's got more then a couple with non veiled monkey comparisons. a 2012 one stating don't re-Nig in 2012, a reference to only idiots (with the O being the campaign symbol) are from Kenya or something along those lines.

O_o !!!???!!!???  eye... twitching ...
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11954 on: January 18, 2016, 06:12:36 PM »
When I say racist bumper stickers...I mean RACIST bumper stickers, not my interpretation of them.  I wasn't going to elaborate on them since I don't think any of them are worth so much as someone googling them, and dare someone actually click on one and give the creator a pay per click bump for perpetuating racism.  But, since you want to put your overly obviously biased opinions out there, she's got more then a couple with non veiled monkey comparisons. a 2012 one stating don't re-Nig in 2012, a reference to only idiots (with the O being the campaign symbol) are from Kenya or something along those lines.

O_o !!!???!!!???


I see you don't live near me. I quit counting those sometime in the winter of 2011-2012. To depressing.

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« Reply #11955 on: January 18, 2016, 06:15:35 PM »
For whatever reason some Taiwanese don't like Chinese.  Some Chinese don't like Japanese. 
History and politics are enough to explain those feelings.
Yeah, I didn't really mean "for whatever reason."  I saw it mostly with the parents who had lived in those countries, and less in the kids who were mostly born here. 

I.. I was told I could listen to music at a reasonable volume from 11 to 12..

Most amplifiers only go to ten, but this one goes to eleven.

It's a time, not a volume.  Office Space 4tw.

I am guessing Beltim is well aware and looked at it as an opportunity to toss in a Spinal Tap joke (another cult classic you need to watch).  Nice work.

I wish I could claim credit for that excellent reference, but the Spinal Tap joke was TheGrimSqueaker's perhaps unsurprising considering his user name (is that a Discworld reference?).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11956 on: January 18, 2016, 06:17:03 PM »
When I say racist bumper stickers...I mean RACIST bumper stickers, not my interpretation of them.  I wasn't going to elaborate on them since I don't think any of them are worth so much as someone googling them, and dare someone actually click on one and give the creator a pay per click bump for perpetuating racism.  But, since you want to put your overly obviously biased opinions out there, she's got more then a couple with non veiled monkey comparisons. a 2012 one stating don't re-Nig in 2012, a reference to only idiots (with the O being the campaign symbol) are from Kenya or something along those lines.

O_o !!!???!!!???


I see you don't live near me. I quit counting those sometime in the winter of 2011-2012. To depressing.

That makes me sad. :(
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11957 on: January 19, 2016, 05:41:51 AM »
Quote from: MishMash link=topic=2540.msg942346#msg942346 date=1453146253

a 2012 one stating [b
don't re-Nig in 2012[/b],
I'll grant you this one, that's pretty blatant.

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a reference to only idiots (with the O being the campaign symbol) are from Kenya or something along those lines.

That one, not so much.  That one is just a reversal of the 2004 one that said, "Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing it's idiot".  I saw that one for a while around here, because Democrats outnumber Republicans almost 2:1 around here.  Even still, it's hard for me to find anyone who will still admit to voting for Obama twice, and doesn't hold any regrets.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11958 on: January 19, 2016, 06:19:16 AM »
Even still, it's hard for me to find anyone who will still admit to voting for Obama twice, and doesn't hold any regrets.

I have a hard time finding someone who did vote for him twice that would go back and change it.

Wish he did some things differently?  Absolutely.

Would have switched to McCain or Romney?  No way.

If you meant the former, sure, there's some "regrets" by people who voted for him about how he's done things.  But if the latter, I think that's extremely rare.

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« Reply #11959 on: January 19, 2016, 06:52:04 AM »
I jumped parties and voted for Obama twice.  Hell, with this crop of people running, I'd vote for him a third time if I could.  While I don't agree with everything he has done obviously, I think he has generally done a good job, and I like having a smart articulate pragmatic person who generally believes in science as our president.   I also believe that at heart he is a good and decent human being.  FWIW, I believed many of the same things about Romney and I think he would have been a good president too. 

Back to the topic at hand: 

I have a co-worker who is a really nice guy but is constantly talking about stuff he buys, going out to eat etc....  I always wondered how he affords it all.  We normally get paid on Mondays at our work, and he asked me if today was our biweekly payday.  When I told him it was next week, he looked nervous and told me that he received a notice from his bank that he had less than $25 in his checking account.  Then five minutes after saying that he bought a $7 lunch on his credit card.....\\

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« Reply #11960 on: January 19, 2016, 07:28:16 AM »
I jumped parties and voted for Obama twice.  Hell, with this crop of people running, I'd vote for him a third time if I could.  While I don't agree with everything he has done obviously, I think he has generally done a good job, and I like having a smart articulate pragmatic person who generally believes in science as our president.   I also believe that at heart he is a good and decent human being.  FWIW, I believed many of the same things about Romney and I think he would have been a good president too. 

Back to the topic at hand: 

I have a co-worker who is a really nice guy but is constantly talking about stuff he buys, going out to eat etc....  I always wondered how he affords it all.  We normally get paid on Mondays at our work, and he asked me if today was our biweekly payday.  When I told him it was next week, he looked nervous and told me that he received a notice from his bank that he had less than $25 in his checking account.  Then five minutes after saying that he bought a $7 lunch on his credit card.....\\

Count me in with Golden1. He/she said it very well. I was considering voting for McCain until they brought in Sarah Palin. I thought Romney and McCain were/are both viable candidates. Sarah sunk McCain's ship for me.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11961 on: January 19, 2016, 08:32:43 AM »
Back to the topic at hand: 

I have a co-worker who is a really nice guy but is constantly talking about stuff he buys, going out to eat etc....  I always wondered how he affords it all.  We normally get paid on Mondays at our work, and he asked me if today was our biweekly payday.  When I told him it was next week, he looked nervous and told me that he received a notice from his bank that he had less than $25 in his checking account.  Then five minutes after saying that he bought a $7 lunch on his credit card.....\\

Ahhh yess "that guy".... I bet if you called him out on it, he'd say "But I can't make a lunch this cheap! - Yesterday I bought a bottle of coke when I gassed up the car, and in the gas station convenience store it was $3.00!" I know that guy.

Haha- I work with several of "those guys".  Drive me bonkers sometimes.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11962 on: January 19, 2016, 08:37:19 AM »
I jumped parties and voted for Obama twice.  Hell, with this crop of people running, I'd vote for him a third time if I could.  While I don't agree with everything he has done obviously, I think he has generally done a good job, and I like having a smart articulate pragmatic person who generally believes in science as our president.   I also believe that at heart he is a good and decent human being.  FWIW, I believed many of the same things about Romney and I think he would have been a good president too. 

Back to the topic at hand: 

I have a co-worker who is a really nice guy but is constantly talking about stuff he buys, going out to eat etc....  I always wondered how he affords it all.  We normally get paid on Mondays at our work, and he asked me if today was our biweekly payday.  When I told him it was next week, he looked nervous and told me that he received a notice from his bank that he had less than $25 in his checking account.  Then five minutes after saying that he bought a $7 lunch on his credit card.....\\

Count me in with Golden1. He/she said it very well. I was considering voting for McCain until they brought in Sarah Palin. I thought Romney and McCain were/are both viable candidates. Sarah sunk McCain's ship for me.

I did as well, and think that he's done a fairly great job, considering the hand he was dealt and comparing him to the people that he was running against. If he could run for a third term, I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him seeing the current slate of republicans running.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11963 on: January 19, 2016, 08:42:30 AM »
Oh, I just thought of one. A lady at work broke up with her boyfriend who she'd been with for quite a length of time (a couple of years at least). She just basically wasn't that into him, he was undermotivated, a slacker, didn't help around the house, was jealous of her relationship with her grown child, etc. He wasn't happy about the breakup and wanted to get back with her. Eventually she took him back, and part of her reasoning was that the $350 he paid her in rent was really helpful.

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« Reply #11964 on: January 19, 2016, 08:46:33 AM »
Oh, I just thought of one. A lady at work broke up with her boyfriend who she'd been with for quite a length of time (a couple of years at least). She just basically wasn't that into him, he was undermotivated, a slacker, didn't help around the house, was jealous of her relationship with her grown child, etc. He wasn't happy about the breakup and wanted to get back with her. Eventually she took him back, and part of her reasoning was that the $350 he paid her in rent was really helpful.

... If part of my reasoning for sleeping with someone on a regular basis is 350$/month, I will have failed at life.

(Full disclaimer: I am a feminist who is generally pro-sex-worker's-rights and sex-positive. But seriously: if you're going to spend time/have sex with someone for money, it's probably in your best interest to negotiate a rate up front. 350$/month is a shit rate for putting up with someone like that.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11965 on: January 19, 2016, 08:56:55 AM »
I'm not sure if she cooks.

I told her that if she needs the money have him as her roommate, not her boyfriend. Or get a different roommate.

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« Reply #11966 on: January 19, 2016, 09:30:58 AM »
Oh, I just thought of one. A lady at work broke up with her boyfriend who she'd been with for quite a length of time (a couple of years at least). She just basically wasn't that into him, he was undermotivated, a slacker, didn't help around the house, was jealous of her relationship with her grown child, etc. He wasn't happy about the breakup and wanted to get back with her. Eventually she took him back, and part of her reasoning was that the $350 he paid her in rent was really helpful.

... If part of my reasoning for sleeping with someone on a regular basis is 350$/month, I will have failed at life.

(Full disclaimer: I am a feminist who is generally pro-sex-worker's-rights and sex-positive. But seriously: if you're going to spend time/have sex with someone for money, it's probably in your best interest to negotiate a rate up front. 350$/month is a shit rate for putting up with someone like that.)

Well the dude is doing alright, $350 for a personal assistant with sex on the side. Does she cook for him too?

$350 mo = $4,200 /yr = $105,000 stash

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11967 on: January 19, 2016, 09:32:20 AM »
I jumped parties and voted for Obama twice.  Hell, with this crop of people running, I'd vote for him a third time if I could.  While I don't agree with everything he has done obviously, I think he has generally done a good job, and I like having a smart articulate pragmatic person who generally believes in science as our president.   I also believe that at heart he is a good and decent human being.  FWIW, I believed many of the same things about Romney and I think he would have been a good president too. 

Back to the topic at hand: 

I have a co-worker who is a really nice guy but is constantly talking about stuff he buys, going out to eat etc....  I always wondered how he affords it all.  We normally get paid on Mondays at our work, and he asked me if today was our biweekly payday.  When I told him it was next week, he looked nervous and told me that he received a notice from his bank that he had less than $25 in his checking account.  Then five minutes after saying that he bought a $7 lunch on his credit card.....\\

Count me in with Golden1. He/she said it very well. I was considering voting for McCain until they brought in Sarah Palin. I thought Romney and McCain were/are both viable candidates. Sarah sunk McCain's ship for me.

Yep.  I'm a registered Democrat, but I was planning on voting for McCain until then.

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Even still, it's hard for me to find anyone who will still admit to voting for Obama twice, and doesn't hold any regrets.

I don't hold any regrets.  He's not perfect, but I support most of what he's done, or tried to do.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11968 on: January 19, 2016, 09:33:28 AM »
I  have a good friend who owns (has a mortgage) on a house, bought it and moved in with her boyfriend. She and the boyfriend broke up, so now are just roommates. However the weird thing was after they broke up she didn't tell anyone for a couple years (when I learned she told me not to tell anyone). Also she let him know if he starts going out with someone else he needs to move out. So far it is working out, but it seems controlling and could get messy in the future.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11969 on: January 19, 2016, 10:04:40 AM »
I  have a good friend who owns (has a mortgage) on a house, bought it and moved in with her boyfriend. She and the boyfriend broke up, so now are just roommates. However the weird thing was after they broke up she didn't tell anyone for a couple years (when I learned she told me not to tell anyone). Also she let him know if he starts going out with someone else he needs to move out. So far it is working out, but it seems controlling and could get messy in the future.
I'd get the hell out of there asap if I was the guy.  It is controlling (if somewhat understandable in a certain light), and even if I didn't have plans to see anyone else I'd leave based on principle.

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« Reply #11970 on: January 19, 2016, 10:56:35 AM »
I jumped parties and voted for Obama twice.  Hell, with this crop of people running, I'd vote for him a third time if I could.  While I don't agree with everything he has done obviously, I think he has generally done a good job, and I like having a smart articulate pragmatic person who generally believes in science as our president.   I also believe that at heart he is a good and decent human being.  FWIW, I believed many of the same things about Romney and I think he would have been a good president too. 
Count me in with Golden1. He/she said it very well. I was considering voting for McCain until they brought in Sarah Palin. I thought Romney and McCain were/are both viable candidates. Sarah sunk McCain's ship for me.
Yep.  I'm a registered Democrat, but I was planning on voting for McCain until then.
Conservative, who voted for Romney and McCain, who does not like much of what Obama has done.
If it was Obama vs Clinton vs Trump, I'd go with Obama. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11971 on: January 19, 2016, 12:41:06 PM »
I  have a good friend who owns (has a mortgage) on a house, bought it and moved in with her boyfriend. She and the boyfriend broke up, so now are just roommates. However the weird thing was after they broke up she didn't tell anyone for a couple years (when I learned she told me not to tell anyone). Also she let him know if he starts going out with someone else he needs to move out. So far it is working out, but it seems controlling and could get messy in the future.
I'd get the hell out of there asap if I was the guy.  It is controlling (if somewhat understandable in a certain light), and even if I didn't have plans to see anyone else I'd leave based on principle.

Or a boundary, he IS free to leave (from what we can glean from a few words on the Internet). Likely more complicated, but we don't know enough to draw any real conclusions about either of them or their relationship, such as it is.
It really sounds like "we are both in this housing arrangement already and it's mutually beneficial, but can barely tolerate each other enough to live together and I couldn't handle seeing you around somebody else in my home right now."
I've been in a similar situation. It's reasonable.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11972 on: January 20, 2016, 08:25:53 AM »
I've got a fresh one from this morning.

When discussing travel arrangements with a coworker for an upcoming business trip, the topic of which hotel to stay at came up. He suggested the local Hampton because he was able to call and get a deal on a group of rooms with fancy water jet bathtub things. I won't be traveling at the same time as him and a few others, so I suggested that I would stay at the Marriott since it's the same distance from our destination, I am part of their rewards points program, and the price is about the same with all discounts considered.

He scoffed at my lack of desire to have a hot tub in my room and suggested I "stop chasing points." After I mentioned that I've already saved up enough for a free night and intend to use the points to help (significantly) reduce the cost of a road trip with my wife later this year, he looked insulted and told me "just spend your money!" I was flabbergasted. Had no idea how to respond to that. Why would I go out of my way to get a room with something in it that I won't have time to enjoy on a business trip, when I could go to a hotel with accommodations that are just as comfortable and get points towards a free stay in the future in the process? All so that I can spend even more money on crap I don't need when I decide to treat my wife to a vacation? Ridiculous ...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11973 on: January 20, 2016, 08:27:49 AM »
I  have a good friend who owns (has a mortgage) on a house, bought it and moved in with her boyfriend. She and the boyfriend broke up, so now are just roommates. However the weird thing was after they broke up she didn't tell anyone for a couple years (when I learned she told me not to tell anyone). Also she let him know if he starts going out with someone else he needs to move out. So far it is working out, but it seems controlling and could get messy in the future.
I'd get the hell out of there asap if I was the guy.  It is controlling (if somewhat understandable in a certain light), and even if I didn't have plans to see anyone else I'd leave based on principle.

Or a boundary, he IS free to leave (from what we can glean from a few words on the Internet). Likely more complicated, but we don't know enough to draw any real conclusions about either of them or their relationship, such as it is.
It really sounds like "we are both in this housing arrangement already and it's mutually beneficial, but can barely tolerate each other enough to live together and I couldn't handle seeing you around somebody else in my home right now."
I've been in a similar situation. It's reasonable.
That's kind of how I saw it, but from the few words that were posted the restriction sounded very one sided.  Then again the house is her's, so she does have the right to set some ground rules.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11974 on: January 20, 2016, 08:49:13 AM »
I've got a fresh one from this morning.

When discussing travel arrangements with a coworker for an upcoming business trip, the topic of which hotel to stay at came up. He suggested the local Hampton because he was able to call and get a deal on a group of rooms with fancy water jet bathtub things. I won't be traveling at the same time as him and a few others, so I suggested that I would stay at the Marriott since it's the same distance from our destination, I am part of their rewards points program, and the price is about the same with all discounts considered.

He scoffed at my lack of desire to have a hot tub in my room and suggested I "stop chasing points." After I mentioned that I've already saved up enough for a free night and intend to use the points to help (significantly) reduce the cost of a road trip with my wife later this year, he looked insulted and told me "just spend your money!" I was flabbergasted. Had no idea how to respond to that. Why would I go out of my way to get a room with something in it that I won't have time to enjoy on a business trip, when I could go to a hotel with accommodations that are just as comfortable and get points towards a free stay in the future in the process? All so that I can spend even more money on crap I don't need when I decide to treat my wife to a vacation? Ridiculous ...

Weird, most business travelers I know are all into getting the most points and using them for their own vacations.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11975 on: January 20, 2016, 09:35:31 AM »
I've got a fresh one from this morning.

When discussing travel arrangements with a coworker for an upcoming business trip, the topic of which hotel to stay at came up. He suggested the local Hampton because he was able to call and get a deal on a group of rooms with fancy water jet bathtub things. I won't be traveling at the same time as him and a few others, so I suggested that I would stay at the Marriott since it's the same distance from our destination, I am part of their rewards points program, and the price is about the same with all discounts considered.

He scoffed at my lack of desire to have a hot tub in my room and suggested I "stop chasing points." After I mentioned that I've already saved up enough for a free night and intend to use the points to help (significantly) reduce the cost of a road trip with my wife later this year, he looked insulted and told me "just spend your money!" I was flabbergasted. Had no idea how to respond to that. Why would I go out of my way to get a room with something in it that I won't have time to enjoy on a business trip, when I could go to a hotel with accommodations that are just as comfortable and get points towards a free stay in the future in the process? All so that I can spend even more money on crap I don't need when I decide to treat my wife to a vacation? Ridiculous ...

My view: Just ignore this ass, you are suppose to recognize what a mover and shaker he is, getting you all this "great deal". You are suppose to bow down to him and his greatness, and he isn't happy that you aren't thanking him profusely. Just tell him you don't np need a room there. FYI - this story reminds me of a particularly distasteful person I used to have to deal with (same person is brought to mind in Cheddar Block's LC series), so I am assuming the same basic personality, that I find particularly troublesome. Others may appreciate his efforts.... YMMV
you pretty much hit the nail on the head

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« Reply #11976 on: January 20, 2016, 09:42:58 AM »
I've got a fresh one from this morning.

When discussing travel arrangements with a coworker for an upcoming business trip, the topic of which hotel to stay at came up. He suggested the local Hampton because he was able to call and get a deal on a group of rooms with fancy water jet bathtub things. I won't be traveling at the same time as him and a few others, so I suggested that I would stay at the Marriott since it's the same distance from our destination, I am part of their rewards points program, and the price is about the same with all discounts considered.

He scoffed at my lack of desire to have a hot tub in my room and suggested I "stop chasing points." After I mentioned that I've already saved up enough for a free night and intend to use the points to help (significantly) reduce the cost of a road trip with my wife later this year, he looked insulted and told me "just spend your money!" I was flabbergasted. Had no idea how to respond to that. Why would I go out of my way to get a room with something in it that I won't have time to enjoy on a business trip, when I could go to a hotel with accommodations that are just as comfortable and get points towards a free stay in the future in the process? All so that I can spend even more money on crap I don't need when I decide to treat my wife to a vacation? Ridiculous ...

Weird, most business travelers I know are all into getting the most points and using them for their own vacations.
No kidding.  As much as I dislike my husband's travel (which comes and goes)...our trip home last summer to visit family cost $200 for 4 plane tickets.  CA->PA and NY->CA. (We took a train between the two places).  It took 4 years to get those free tickets, but still.

Also last year, we had a long weekend in San Diego and LA, and our hotel room in LA (2 nights) was free because of his points.

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« Reply #11977 on: January 20, 2016, 09:43:08 AM »
Who uses a hotel bath tub?  Nasty.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11978 on: January 20, 2016, 09:52:26 AM »
I've got a fresh one from this morning.

When discussing travel arrangements with a coworker for an upcoming business trip, the topic of which hotel to stay at came up. He suggested the local Hampton because he was able to call and get a deal on a group of rooms with fancy water jet bathtub things. I won't be traveling at the same time as him and a few others, so I suggested that I would stay at the Marriott since it's the same distance from our destination, I am part of their rewards points program, and the price is about the same with all discounts considered.

He scoffed at my lack of desire to have a hot tub in my room and suggested I "stop chasing points." After I mentioned that I've already saved up enough for a free night and intend to use the points to help (significantly) reduce the cost of a road trip with my wife later this year, he looked insulted and told me "just spend your money!" I was flabbergasted. Had no idea how to respond to that. Why would I go out of my way to get a room with something in it that I won't have time to enjoy on a business trip, when I could go to a hotel with accommodations that are just as comfortable and get points towards a free stay in the future in the process? All so that I can spend even more money on crap I don't need when I decide to treat my wife to a vacation? Ridiculous ...

My view: Just ignore this ass, you are suppose to recognize what a mover and shaker he is, getting you all this "great deal". You are suppose to bow down to him and his greatness, and he isn't happy that you aren't thanking him profusely. Just tell him you don't np need a room there. FYI - this story reminds me of a particularly distasteful person I used to have to deal with (same person is brought to mind in Cheddar Block's LC series), so I am assuming the same basic personality, that I find particularly troublesome. Others may appreciate his efforts.... YMMV
you pretty much hit the nail on the head

Well, I am sorry because this guy is going to be like a dog with a bone and never let up. He'll try to shame you on this trip in front of your colleagues - both to your face and behind your back. He will continue to try to be the leader and make decisions for everyone without discussing it with anyone. If you balk, he will label you as not being a team player. He is not used to people going along with him, even if everyone thinks he is an ass, they just avoid the conflict and blowback. I hope you find a strategy for dealing with him, I was not as successful as I would have liked...
So far he hasn't really stepped on my toes aside from the occasional moronic comment about how I should spend more because I'm young and can afford it (my ~$55k in debt begs to differ). Our positions in the company should make it relatively easy to avoid his ego unless one of us gets promoted over the other, which I don't see happening any time in the next 5 years or so.

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« Reply #11979 on: January 20, 2016, 09:54:43 AM »
I did as well, and think that he's done a fairly great job, considering the hand he was dealt and comparing him to the people that he was running against. If he could run for a third term, I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him seeing the current slate of republicans running.

Me too. Palin's arrival on the scene told me (a registered Republican) that the party was broken. I won't vote for them again until the party is repaired and reasonable again. Constantly functioning as a political roadblock didn't endear them to me either b/c stuff needed repair/adaptation/tweaking but they just wanted to keep Barack Obama from having any successes for the history books.

I consider myself a moderate in many things and my politics is mostly middle of the road. Right now that seems to be in short supply for the GOP. Lots of "outside" influences in the GOP right now with priorities/methods that seem odd to me.

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/19/463565987/hidden-history-of-koch-brothers-traces-their-childhood-and-political-rise

That was a trippy show to listen to last night. 

I figure at some point our country will lack enough "conservative white people" to keep the GOP in power. Maybe the GOP sees that already and they are feeling desperate. I keep hearing my peers discuss their religions and their politics as being "under attack" and I don't see it. They aren't under attack, times are just changing and the conservatives don't have the same "guaranteed" control that they've come to rely on.

Other peoples, other countries and other ideas are developing. Not much can be done by the GOP supporters to change that.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11980 on: January 20, 2016, 10:08:45 AM »
I see it more as the internet generation seeing through the facade of American exceptionalism. The classic, although now outdated, example to me was gays in the military. You had American talking heads discussing what may happen and how it'll all go wrong if gays are allowed in the military decades after other nations allowed gays in their military without any of the consequences that were being threatened. Troops who served in Afghanistan and Iraq alongside coalition forces had already served alongside openly gay soldiers for years without a complete collapse of discipline. It continues with socialized medicine and a dozen other arguments.

It's easy to be afraid of the unknown if you believe that you (and your nation) are a bold explorer on the cutting edge of societal progress, constantly pushing back the boundaries and unlocking new freedom beyond. That narrative still gets a lot of airtime in some circles a younger generation are more aware of the world outside their borders which in turn makes them more aware of the deficiencies of the US political system.

This is reflected in the generational divide over Sanders. I'm going to generalize hugely here but older white people have an instinctive opposition to the label socialist while younger people are more likely to recognize that every one of America's friends and allies in North America and Europe are "socialist" (by the American definition at least) and have been for half a century without the world ending.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11981 on: January 20, 2016, 10:11:10 AM »
Had a convo with my co-worker. Her husband has had his modest, 4-door sedan since 2010. It's time to upgrade. So he is going to buy TWO trucks. A jacked-up Chevy AND an old one. Why? Because he thinks the old one is "cool."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11982 on: January 20, 2016, 10:17:06 AM »
I've got a fresh one from this morning.

When discussing travel arrangements with a coworker for an upcoming business trip, the topic of which hotel to stay at came up. He suggested the local Hampton because he was able to call and get a deal on a group of rooms with fancy water jet bathtub things. I won't be traveling at the same time as him and a few others, so I suggested that I would stay at the Marriott since it's the same distance from our destination, I am part of their rewards points program, and the price is about the same with all discounts considered.

He scoffed at my lack of desire to have a hot tub in my room and suggested I "stop chasing points." After I mentioned that I've already saved up enough for a free night and intend to use the points to help (significantly) reduce the cost of a road trip with my wife later this year, he looked insulted and told me "just spend your money!" I was flabbergasted. Had no idea how to respond to that. Why would I go out of my way to get a room with something in it that I won't have time to enjoy on a business trip, when I could go to a hotel with accommodations that are just as comfortable and get points towards a free stay in the future in the process? All so that I can spend even more money on crap I don't need when I decide to treat my wife to a vacation? Ridiculous ...

My view: Just ignore this ass, you are suppose to recognize what a mover and shaker he is, getting you all this "great deal". You are suppose to bow down to him and his greatness, and he isn't happy that you aren't thanking him profusely. Just tell him you don't np need a room there. FYI - this story reminds me of a particularly distasteful person I used to have to deal with (same person is brought to mind in Cheddar Block's LC series), so I am assuming the same basic personality, that I find particularly troublesome. Others may appreciate his efforts.... YMMV

I'll admit I am somewhat picky about which hotels I stay at when I travel for work.  When I'm traveling for meetings most meals with co-workers are kind of a dietary disaster, so I really prefer to get a hotel that has a mini-fridge so I can pack some things like carrot sticks, yogurt, hard boiled eggs, etc. and have a hope in hell of staying somewhat healthy (I realize this sounds somewhat prima-donnaish, but sometimes I have a lot of multi-day work trips strung together and not having to eat out 3x/day does make a big difference).  For a multiday trip I also prefer a hotel with a fitness center (because most of these locations don't have good outdoor running/walking options), and I would pick a place with a hot breakfast option over a place that only offered continental breakfast.

A while back I had a couple of work trips scheduled with co-workers to a location with two hotel options.  One hotel hit all my preferred criteria, the other one had NONE of them, but it had hottubs and offered a glass of sangria at check-in.  Guess which one my co-workers REALLY wanted to stay at?  I gave in (we were carpooling so it was a pain to do different hotels), and after 3 days I was going crazy from the lack of exercise and vegetables.  Next trip out I suggested we try the other hotel and they were aghast that I would pass on the hottub option. Lesson learned, from now on I am booking a hotel room ASAP and then will just be all "oh, sorry, I already booked a room at hotel Y!".

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11983 on: January 20, 2016, 11:12:15 AM »
I  have a good friend who owns (has a mortgage) on a house, bought it and moved in with her boyfriend. She and the boyfriend broke up, so now are just roommates. However the weird thing was after they broke up she didn't tell anyone for a couple years (when I learned she told me not to tell anyone). Also she let him know if he starts going out with someone else he needs to move out. So far it is working out, but it seems controlling and could get messy in the future.
I'd get the hell out of there asap if I was the guy.  It is controlling (if somewhat understandable in a certain light), and even if I didn't have plans to see anyone else I'd leave based on principle.

Or a boundary, he IS free to leave (from what we can glean from a few words on the Internet). Likely more complicated, but we don't know enough to draw any real conclusions about either of them or their relationship, such as it is.
It really sounds like "we are both in this housing arrangement already and it's mutually beneficial, but can barely tolerate each other enough to live together and I couldn't handle seeing you around somebody else in my home right now."
I've been in a similar situation. It's reasonable.
That's kind of how I saw it, but from the few words that were posted the restriction sounded very one sided.  Then again the house is her's, so she does have the right to set some ground rules.
I guess I shouldn't be so judgemental. They both benefit from the situation, she is helped with her mortgage payment, he likely couldn't get anything comparable for the price (she is kind of doing him a favor). But he has a vehicle and she doesn't, so gets rides sometimes. He is free to leave anytime. I guess I was thinking for myself, that I wouldn't be comfortable with that situation, but everyone is different. 

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« Reply #11984 on: January 20, 2016, 05:12:59 PM »
What is this "gop" of which you speak? I kind of get that it's the Republicans, but is it supposed to be derogatory? (Like "Tory" can be in the UK)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11985 on: January 20, 2016, 05:24:33 PM »
What is this "gop" of which you speak? I kind of get that it's the Republicans, but is it supposed to be derogatory? (Like "Tory" can be in the UK)
GOP stands for "Grand Old Party", it's not derogatory.

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« Reply #11986 on: January 20, 2016, 05:29:04 PM »
What is this "gop" of which you speak? I kind of get that it's the Republicans, but is it supposed to be derogatory? (Like "Tory" can be in the UK)

The GOP is a nickname for the republican party. It stands for "Grand Old Party."

I was curious as to its origin and it comes from, "The term originated in 1875 in the Congressional Record, referring to the party associated with the successful military defense of the Union as "this gallant old party"

Also, the image used in cartoons as them being elephants and democrats being donkeys come from a political cartoonist named Thomas Nast back in the 1870s. Thomas Nast is an interesting character, it was he that reportedly popularized Santa as being a jolly fat guy with a white beard, and the term 'nasty' is derived from his name (he also went after Tammany Hall and Boss Tweet, a political machine in NYC).

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« Reply #11987 on: January 21, 2016, 02:06:00 AM »
So my workmates are making plans on where to go out for lunch tomorrow and have decided on a place called Toastface Grillah which just makes toasted sandwiches that you pay between $5 and $9 for a sandwich

I googled them and they dont seem that amazing

http://www.toastfacegrillah.com/

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11988 on: January 21, 2016, 02:48:25 AM »
the term 'nasty' is derived from his name

Nice story, but 'nasty' as an adjective is there in middle English (16th century) texts.

On the business traveller collecting points thing, it's pretty much a standing joke where I work about how obsessed most people are on collecting airmiles, hotel loyalty points, cashback on credit card payments for business travel etc.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11989 on: January 21, 2016, 03:13:32 AM »
Is it just me getting irritated by the US political talk on the Overheard at Work thread?
Get a room (or a thread) already! 

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« Reply #11990 on: January 21, 2016, 04:44:23 AM »
I'll admit I am somewhat picky about which hotels I stay at when I travel for work.  When I'm traveling for meetings most meals with co-workers are kind of a dietary disaster, so I really prefer to get a hotel that has a mini-fridge so I can pack some things like carrot sticks, yogurt, hard boiled eggs, etc.

Wait, you're able to get yogurt through airport security?  How have you managed this feat?  Or are you buying once you get there or driving?
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11991 on: January 21, 2016, 06:01:38 AM »
Is it just me getting irritated by the US political talk on the Overheard at Work thread?
Get a room (or a thread) already!
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I'm not even reading anything with a hint of politics to it anymore, I just scroll on by. Please stay on topic.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11992 on: January 21, 2016, 06:28:31 AM »
Had a convo with my co-worker. Her husband has had his modest, 4-door sedan since 2010. It's time to upgrade. So he is going to buy TWO trucks. A jacked-up Chevy AND an old one. Why? Because he thinks the old one is "cool."

/Facepalm.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11993 on: January 21, 2016, 06:29:25 AM »
Is it just me getting irritated by the US political talk on the Overheard at Work thread?
Get a room (or a thread) already!
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I'm not even reading anything with a hint of politics to it anymore, I just scroll on by. Please stay on topic.
You never talk (or hear) about politics at work?
No wonder the US can't even get the basic done.
I talked quite a bit politics today with several people.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11994 on: January 21, 2016, 07:37:46 AM »
the term 'nasty' is derived from his name

Nice story, but 'nasty' as an adjective is there in middle English (16th century) texts.


Yeah you're correct, I should have Googled this before posting it. I'm racking my brain to figure out where I heard this and it's likely one of those things I heard and filed away assuming that it was a fact. Thanks!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11995 on: January 21, 2016, 07:55:23 AM »
I'll admit I am somewhat picky about which hotels I stay at when I travel for work.  When I'm traveling for meetings most meals with co-workers are kind of a dietary disaster, so I really prefer to get a hotel that has a mini-fridge so I can pack some things like carrot sticks, yogurt, hard boiled eggs, etc.

Wait, you're able to get yogurt through airport security?  How have you managed this feat?  Or are you buying once you get there or driving?

Haven't tried that--most of my work travel is driving so the TSA guidelines are a non-issue!

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« Reply #11996 on: January 21, 2016, 08:19:03 AM »
Is it just me getting irritated by the US political talk on the Overheard at Work thread?
Get a room (or a thread) already!
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I'm not even reading anything with a hint of politics to it anymore, I just scroll on by. Please stay on topic.
You never talk (or hear) about politics at work?
No wonder the US can't even get the basic done.
I talked quite a bit politics today with several people.
Why do you assume that everyone lives in the US?

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« Reply #11997 on: January 21, 2016, 08:52:15 AM »
I do not assume that, I merely remarked upon a statistical probability.

But you are right, if the poster writes "US politics" he is very likely not US, because then he would wrote either politics or American politics, ignoring the vast majority of the continent(s) landmass and people. (one reason why I stated the bad US politics thing last post) ;)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11998 on: January 21, 2016, 10:32:48 AM »
Is it just me getting irritated by the US political talk on the Overheard at Work thread?
Get a room (or a thread) already!
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I'm not even reading anything with a hint of politics to it anymore, I just scroll on by. Please stay on topic.
You never talk (or hear) about politics at work?
No wonder the US can't even get the basic done.
I talked quite a bit politics today with several people.
I talk and hear about politics daily. I have no problem with political discussions but I believe in the "time and place" rule and an overheard at work thread that many people use for comedic purposes isn't the place for political discussions, especially when there are sections of the forum dedicated to politics. If I wanted to read how people on the mmm forum felt about the parties and their candidates, I would head over there. But I don't so I'm here.
It's not about avoiding politics altogether, it's about not tracking mud all over an otherwise (mostly) pleasant thread.

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« Reply #11999 on: January 21, 2016, 11:41:47 AM »
... because then he would wrote either politics or American politics, ignoring the vast majority of the continent(s) landmass and people. ...

Teehee...

O.k. so to stay on topic today overheard at the office:

11.45 am "I really have to stop spending so much money and start saving more. I want to move out in April (from her parents house) and it will be expensive"

12.05 pm "So who is coming with me to the greek place around the corner?"


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