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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11050 on: October 22, 2015, 02:41:17 PM »
I guess there are people that never had to do this, but on the rare occasions that I had enough money for restaurant food as a college student, I would either read the menu (if posted outside) or WALK INSIDE AND ASK FOR A COPY, before ever committing to dine there.

I felt awkward doing this, but I knew as a dumb kid that it was even worse to sit down without knowing what you could afford.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11051 on: October 22, 2015, 03:28:45 PM »
Brazil-style churrascaria. Family of 4, $45/plate + drinks/tax/tip, $220 total. Something about "we won't be doing that again, hahaha"

Don't get me wrong, those places are awesome, but the prices aren't a secret...
I *LOVE* those places!  DW and I make a point of going once every year or two.  Yes, it's a splurge.  But we also make sure we can afford it first :)  And in our eyes, it's worth it every once in a while.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11052 on: October 22, 2015, 03:59:41 PM »
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Because of the area I work in, I  have access to salary information, and while the majority earn a ton of money, a few of them, like me, have "normal" salaries. (I put normal in quotes because in my book, we're still paid above average.) Every single one of them complains about not being able to retire. The market dips and they freak out (while I clap my hands and yell SALE). I decided to snoop around and see what everyone in my group contributes to the 401(k) plan. We have a 4% match which isn't amazing, but it's still free money. Plus the plan is with Vanguard and the funds we can choose from are great.  I'm the only one who maxes out their contribution. In fact, the very highly paid employees (we're talking mid to high 6 figures) contribute 0%. We automatically enroll employees at 3% so they had to physically go in and change that number to 0%.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one because we don't have any special retirement plans for highly compensated employees. Why wouldn't you max it out?!

To be fair, when you're making 500-900k, a <$2k match plus an $18k tax shelter becomes trivial. Although, it doesn't like they're saying the way they should
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11053 on: October 22, 2015, 06:43:21 PM »
OH, and same CW last week, when thrift/consignment stores came up: "I should really look into that... just spent well over $100 on t-shirts for one of the kids"
New, that was probably 5 shirts, which (depending on growth spurts and clothing refresh cycle length) might not be an unreasonable number of shirts.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11054 on: October 22, 2015, 08:32:30 PM »
I guess there are people that never had to do this, but on the rare occasions that I had enough money for restaurant food as a college student, I would either read the menu (if posted outside) or WALK INSIDE AND ASK FOR A COPY, before ever committing to dine there.

I felt awkward doing this, but I knew as a dumb kid that it was even worse to sit down without knowing what you could afford.

I regularly ask to see a menu before sitting down, mostly because I want to see if there's anything I want to eat.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11055 on: October 22, 2015, 08:53:10 PM »
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We have a 4% match which isn't amazing, but it's still free money... In fact, the very highly paid employees (we're talking mid to high 6 figures) contribute 0%.

To be fair, when you're making 500-900k, a <$2k match plus an $18k tax shelter becomes trivial. Although, it doesn't like they're saying the way they should

Wait, how would it be a $2,000 match if you were making $500,000 per year? A match is generally expressed as the first X% of the salary you defer. At $500,000 per year, I think you could contribute the full $18,000 (3.6% of salary) and receive an $18,000 match, since the first 4% of contributions are matched.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11056 on: October 22, 2015, 09:51:22 PM »
A boss brought in a huge pack of cherry tomatoes. While I was taking some, the closest workmate ask me "Are you gonna bring them home?". I guess my mustachian habits didn't go unnoticed...

Oh yeah. I'm that guy. I scored my dinner tonight (pizza, salad) from the break room. Got a couple jars of cocoa almond spread yesterday.. some cereal last week. I think I get a free item a week at least. In fact on some days, I go to the break room early in the morning or late in the day (when noone is around) just to see what I could grab. Maybe I'm being more cheap than frugal, but hey, it's put out there for somebody to take. Oh, and I'm not rootin in the fridge. There's a 'common' area for people to leave food, books, magazines, trinkets...

Back to the topic umm.. I found a coworker for years doesn't make any elections with her 401(a) DCP and it stagnates in a money market. And my other coworker has a geewhiz father who retired the MMM way and lives off dividend so we have some actually productive chats about personal finance.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11057 on: October 22, 2015, 09:55:23 PM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
Interesting story, I had this exchange recently with a friend of a friend on FB, gave my standard dismissive opinion... apparently this person had lived through some kind of mass contamination event, 400,000 people affected in Milawaukee and 100+ died. Hard not to sympathize on an emotional level. But the odds of it ever happening again? If that person ever died from some weird freak event, it'd probably be something totally different.

Quite an anomaly. Municipal water sources have way more restrictions than bottled water. In my city, tests on municipal water are conducted daily and annual reports are available to residents. Also, fuck Nestle.

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Every few years I replenish the stock of silverware at work with pieces from a thrift store. Not sure if coworkers are tossing them in the trash or taking the pieces home, but the forks have a tendency to walk off frequently.
I can't believe I never thought of that! Totally grabbing a load today.

I'm going to start stealing silverware from work as well.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11058 on: October 22, 2015, 11:24:19 PM »
May I add a non-money related one?

Coworker sees me pouring in my coffee milk from a recycled juice bottle, inquires about it, and I explain him I ain't drinking that dairy-fluff stuff they give for free, because it's not actual milk and I prefer knowing what I drink. He looks conspiratorially at me and asks me "Is it your own milk?". The guy next to me almost spit his coffee. (And no, I'm not lactating)

On the other hand...when I was actually lactating and pumping at work for my baby, I started bringing my coffee creamer in one of the little pumped milk bottles.  They were leak proof and fit into a little cooler with a specially fitted ice pack.  Made total sense to me.  They stayed cold and accessible.  Every time I went to get coffee, I would bring a little milk bottle with me and add a bit.  Only a close friend ever dared to ask if I was adding breastmilk to my coffee.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11059 on: October 23, 2015, 12:23:07 AM »
In copier room...

CW: Damn, the machine is out of paper again, why doesn't anyone load this thing.

Opens a skein of paper, removes 3 sheets, puts them in the side feed, hits print, leaves open skein on top of printer and walks out.

Me: Cringe.

At least he didn't toss the 'extra' paper out...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11060 on: October 23, 2015, 02:33:54 AM »

As I was filling the tray with freshly washed thrift store forks once:

CW: "Ewww, gross. Those are used? I’ll stick to the disposables. I’m a germaphobe."
Me:  “So you never eat at restaurants that use real silverware?”
CW: Startled stare.

Yeah, 'cos plastic forks made in a non-sterile factory in China and moved half way around the world in a shipping container are way cleaner than this one I just washed right in front of your face...

I was in the States recently and couldn't believe the amount of disposable stuff used everywhere. Every hotel that had a free continental breakfast used styrofoam cereal bowls! Ugh. Aside from the hideous hideous waste, it's just such a poor dining experience. The bendy spoon scraping along the bottom of the bowl. Buttering a muffin with a flexible knife, ah, it made me ragey!

And restaurants were just as bad. Ordered a coffee and bagel with cream cheese to go, from an independent hipster looking place. The coffee came in an 'Eco-cup!" proudly proclaiming how recycled it was. The bagel was placed in a huge clear plastic box (never even seen one of these in the UK, let alone been given one with something as cheap as a bagel, I'd best describe it as a display box), then in a huge paper bag. About 30 napkins were stuffed in, 3 FULL SETS of cutlery, and then, when I took it out to eat it (what a frigging palaver, trying to balance all that), I discovered my cream cheese was in a separate solo cup and I had to do it myself! Bendy knife, balancing a pound of disposable packaging, but oh great, the coffee cup was recycled. REDUCE, reuse, recycle.

Interestingly, the only place that did what I would consider the SENSIBLE thing of putting the cream cheese ON my bagel and handing it to me in a thin 6" square paper bag was... Starbucks. If some people don't want their cream cheese on immediately, just say, 'On the side?' like with salad dressing. /rant

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11061 on: October 23, 2015, 02:39:42 AM »
I guess there are people that never had to do this, but on the rare occasions that I had enough money for restaurant food as a college student, I would either read the menu (if posted outside) or WALK INSIDE AND ASK FOR A COPY, before ever committing to dine there.

I felt awkward doing this, but I knew as a dumb kid that it was even worse to sit down without knowing what you could afford.

I regularly ask to see a menu before sitting down, mostly because I want to see if there's anything I want to eat.

Yeah I would never get a table at a restaurant without checking the menu to see if I liked it first. It never occurred to me this could be perceived as checking out the prices... but obviously I would always do that too.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11062 on: October 23, 2015, 06:06:31 AM »
A boss brought in a huge pack of cherry tomatoes. While I was taking some, the closest workmate ask me "Are you gonna bring them home?". I guess my mustachian habits didn't go unnoticed...

Oh yeah. I'm that guy. I scored my dinner tonight (pizza, salad) from the break room. Got a couple jars of cocoa almond spread yesterday.. some cereal last week. I think I get a free item a week at least. In fact on some days, I go to the break room early in the morning or late in the day (when noone is around) just to see what I could grab. Maybe I'm being more cheap than frugal, but hey, it's put out there for somebody to take. Oh, and I'm not rootin in the fridge. There's a 'common' area for people to leave food, books, magazines, trinkets...

Back when my wife and I worked in offices, we frequently scored dinner this way by bringing home office meeting leftovers. This worked great except the one time we got food poisoning from her office when she was pregnant. An awful 24 hours of clearing every last drop of everything out of our alimentary canals, all the time worried about the baby, too. (Baby's fine, turning 2 next month.)

When she got back to her office, everybody had those little dot bruises around their eyes from vomiting with great force. The restaurant lost a solid corporate account that day.

I'd still bring home leftover office food if the opportunity presented itself. Things happen, but they usually don't.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11063 on: October 23, 2015, 06:46:10 AM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11064 on: October 23, 2015, 07:10:36 AM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.

People are stupid. I work in the water industry. Bottle water has no special regulations; they fall under all the same regulations municipalities do for their drinking water. The treatment process is the same for both.

Most bottle water companies use tap water, run it through a carbon filter (the same type of filter is on your refrigerator that no one ever replaces) and pass it off as purified or specially filtered. Its a sham.

I wonder how many other products are shams like this. I once worked in a sourkraut facility and they used the same enormis vat of kraut to fill 7 "different" company labels. Buy the cheapest sourkraut its all the same.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11065 on: October 23, 2015, 07:25:49 AM »
I *LOVE* those places!  DW and I make a point of going once every year or two.  Yes, it's a splurge.  But we also make sure we can afford it first :)  And in our eyes, it's worth it every once in a while.

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I'm not opposed to the concept in any fashion... just opposed to a debt-ridden friend overpaying to experience it. :(

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11066 on: October 23, 2015, 08:20:28 AM »

People are stupid. I work in the water industry. Bottle water has no special regulations; they fall under all the same regulations municipalities do for their drinking water. The treatment process is the same for both.

Most bottle water companies use tap water, run it through a carbon filter (the same type of filter is on your refrigerator that no one ever replaces) and pass it off as purified or specially filtered. Its a sham.

I wonder how many other products are shams like this. I once worked in a sourkraut facility and they used the same enormis vat of kraut to fill 7 "different" company labels. Buy the cheapest sourkraut its all the same.

I remember when Dasani was withdrawn from sale in the UK because the scandal broke that it was... tap water.

ETA reading up on it was not just tap water, it was tap water to which they apparently added carcinogens! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani#United_Kingdom
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11067 on: October 23, 2015, 08:50:51 AM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.

Water coolers aren't that expensive to maintain, but then again I don't know how much water costs where you are and if they are paying for a service to deliver it. Here, we can fill up at 5 gallon drum of water for 39 cents a gallon. I have two jugs at the office and I will fill them up and bring them in, but then again mine is a small office so that water lasts a while. This is a necessity in my eyes as our tap is nasty, and I don't believe that my workers, especially in the warehouse, should have to bring in their own water.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11068 on: October 23, 2015, 09:50:10 AM »
Water coolers aren't that expensive to maintain, but then again I don't know how much water costs where you are and if they are paying for a service to deliver it.

We have a small office and it's about $5/mo per person when you include everything (delivery, rental of the cooler, etc.). It's a nice cheap perk to have, it dispenses hot water for tea as well as cold water... and we don't have a tap/sink anywhere in our office so people would have to get tap water from the sometimes-icky shared-with-other-companies bathroom sink, or buy bottled.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11069 on: October 23, 2015, 11:11:17 AM »
Water coolers aren't that expensive to maintain, but then again I don't know how much water costs where you are and if they are paying for a service to deliver it.

We have a small office and it's about $5/mo per person when you include everything (delivery, rental of the cooler, etc.). It's a nice cheap perk to have, it dispenses hot water for tea as well as cold water... and we don't have a tap/sink anywhere in our office so people would have to get tap water from the sometimes-icky shared-with-other-companies bathroom sink, or buy bottled.

I'm guessing that your's is a big office? For the cooler, we went on craigs' list and bought one and then bought two jugs and like I said, we refill them at the grocery store a block away for 39 cents a gallon or $1.95. I'm guessing that this wouldn't fly at a big office because people don't have time for that, but man does that add up.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11070 on: October 23, 2015, 11:14:32 AM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.
I would have said never buy water but then I worked in an office with horrendous tasting hard water. I caved and joined the water club ($5/ month) not too many months after I did annual tests revealed the water (from a well) did not meet federal clean drinking water standards. After that my employer took over the cost of water.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11071 on: October 23, 2015, 11:31:23 AM »
The coffee came in an 'Eco-cup!" proudly proclaiming how recycled it was. The bagel was placed in a huge clear plastic box (never even seen one of these in the UK,.....but oh great, the coffee cup was recycled. REDUCE, reuse, recycle.
Their inability to handle the concept of a china mug (the only proper way to serve tea) is why there is no hope for the civlisation over here.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11072 on: October 23, 2015, 11:34:05 AM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.
At my workplace, bunch of folks trying to bring back the water coolers and monthly water dues, etc. I was asked and replied "FuckNo!". I told them that there's a water fountain in our office, two fountains in the huge shower facility next door that dispense supercoldaqua, and there's 50cent water bottles in the fridge (that I only use in an emergency, buying one and refilling for the day). I'm that Nalgene water bottle chap.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11073 on: October 23, 2015, 11:49:27 AM »
CW1 to CW2: Let's buy a Keurig machine for $96. (Yeah that damn 2.0 with the DRM hack)
CW2 sends out an email to 20+ people asking to pitch in to share cost.
I replied that I wouldn't participate, love my cheap instant coffee, can get 16oz of good Sumatran in the building café for $2, or use my weekly free Dunkin Donuts coupons nearby.
When CW1 brings in the new machine the next day, purchased without any consensus,
CW3: There's an unused Keurig machine in the back of the datacenter (CW3 is a fellow cheap bastard).
CW1: Huh, oh whatever.
I walk in.
CW1: Jinga, what's $96 divided by 7?
Me: just under $14. Why?
CW1: For the coffee machine
Me: Does that price includes sales tax?
CW1: Damn!
CW4: I'll contribute, even though I don't drink coffee or use Keurig stuff, but I don't want to be accused in the future of not paying. (Same guy who played in office fantasy football league last year but didn't pay his $20 until the season was over.)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11074 on: October 23, 2015, 11:58:02 AM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.

I probably wouldn't drink water from a building that had a sign like that

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11075 on: October 23, 2015, 12:00:12 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11076 on: October 23, 2015, 12:24:07 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport.

No facepunch from me. I find current TSA and airline interactions intolerable while completely sober, one can't bring liquids through check-in, and obviously drinking to a sufficient level of inebriation before leaving the house isn't wise (or legal, if you drive to the airport). The only remaining option for getting through the mandatory poke-and-grope without doing something arrest-worthy is to buy the overpriced booze.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11077 on: October 23, 2015, 12:27:05 PM »
We have a small office and it's about $5/mo per person when you include everything (delivery, rental of the cooler, etc.). It's a nice cheap perk to have, it dispenses hot water for tea as well as cold water... and we don't have a tap/sink anywhere in our office so people would have to get tap water from the sometimes-icky shared-with-other-companies bathroom sink, or buy bottled.

I'm guessing that your's is a big office? For the cooler, we went on craigs' list and bought one and then bought two jugs and like I said, we refill them at the grocery store a block away for 39 cents a gallon or $1.95. I'm guessing that this wouldn't fly at a big office because people don't have time for that, but man does that add up.

No, mi'ne is not a big office, as I said in the first five words of that post you just quoted ;-)

I think last month we got 20 gallons of water delivered and it cost $34 including cooler rental/delivery. It's not crazy cheap (midtown NYC never is!) but it's a pretty minor expense that the company pays for. I really doubt there is any store in the vicinity where we could get cheaper water. I'm quite happy for the company to pay an extra couple of dollars a week if it prevents employees from buying lots of smaller bottles (wasting plastic + expense) or drinking more soda/crap.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11078 on: October 23, 2015, 12:30:09 PM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.
I would have said never buy water but then I worked in an office with horrendous tasting hard water. I caved and joined the water club ($5/ month) not too many months after I did annual tests revealed the water (from a well) did not meet federal clean drinking water standards. After that my employer took over the cost of water.

I do understand that. I cannot drink tap water in the LA/San Diego area. The water there literally turns my stomach! I haven't tried filtered (usually out on a business trip). I'm usually buying facepunch-worthy bottled water while there.

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« Reply #11079 on: October 23, 2015, 12:34:02 PM »
The coffee came in an 'Eco-cup!" proudly proclaiming how recycled it was. The bagel was placed in a huge clear plastic box (never even seen one of these in the UK,.....but oh great, the coffee cup was recycled. REDUCE, reuse, recycle.
Their inability to handle the concept of a china mug (the only proper way to serve tea) is why there is no hope for the civlisation over here.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11080 on: October 23, 2015, 12:58:37 PM »
People who buy bottled water…one day we’ll look back at them and laugh the way we do for people who bought pet rocks in the 70’s. I hope.
A coworker spotted me filling up my mug at the water fountain at work. Granted, our building is old, and some of the faucets have a sign that say "Run water for at least 1 minute before consumption." Still:

CW: Wow, you're brave.
Me: Why, because I'm drinking from the water fountain?
CW: Yes.
Me: Well, there's no sign (warning to run water for a minute), so I'm assuming it's safe.
CW: I wouldn't do it.
Me: You have to die from something, right?

This coworker is a part of the $5/month water club. Yes, they pool their money to purchase those big bottled water coolers and drink from that.
I would have said never buy water but then I worked in an office with horrendous tasting hard water. I caved and joined the water club ($5/ month) not too many months after I did annual tests revealed the water (from a well) did not meet federal clean drinking water standards. After that my employer took over the cost of water.

I do understand that. I cannot drink tap water in the LA/San Diego area. The water there literally turns my stomach! I haven't tried filtered (usually out on a business trip). I'm usually buying facepunch-worthy bottled water while there.

I haven't used this, but I've heard great things.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11081 on: October 23, 2015, 12:58:51 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport.

Maybe the Bartender doesn't worry about his credit score b/c he's debt-free and owns his house outright and therefore has no need to borrow money so his credit score is irrelevant?

Maybe Patron 1 loves their car b/c it's a 20-year-old beater that they've kept on life support using their own skills & tools, regardless of moving up the career ladder & coworkers telling him he "deserves" a better car?

Just being optimistic :)
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11082 on: October 23, 2015, 01:05:10 PM »
We have a small office and it's about $5/mo per person when you include everything (delivery, rental of the cooler, etc.). It's a nice cheap perk to have, it dispenses hot water for tea as well as cold water... and we don't have a tap/sink anywhere in our office so people would have to get tap water from the sometimes-icky shared-with-other-companies bathroom sink, or buy bottled.

I'm guessing that your's is a big office? For the cooler, we went on craigs' list and bought one and then bought two jugs and like I said, we refill them at the grocery store a block away for 39 cents a gallon or $1.95. I'm guessing that this wouldn't fly at a big office because people don't have time for that, but man does that add up.

No, mi'ne is not a big office, as I said in the first five words of that post you just quoted ;-)

I think last month we got 20 gallons of water delivered and it cost $34 including cooler rental/delivery. It's not crazy cheap (midtown NYC never is!) but it's a pretty minor expense that the company pays for. I really doubt there is any store in the vicinity where we could get cheaper water. I'm quite happy for the company to pay an extra couple of dollars a week if it prevents employees from buying lots of smaller bottles (wasting plastic + expense) or drinking more soda/crap.

Whoops, I think I assumed it was a big office, so just read "big" when you instead wrote "small." $34 for 4 drums isn't terrible. And I didn't realize you were in NYC, where driving isn't easy and so it likely makes sense to have it delivered.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11083 on: October 23, 2015, 01:05:59 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport.

Maybe the Bartender doesn't worry about his credit score b/c he's debt-free and owns his house outright and therefore has no need to borrow money so his credit score is irrelevant?

Maybe Patron 1 loves their car b/c it's a 20-year-old beater that they've kept on life support using their own skills & tools, regardless of moving up the career ladder & coworkers telling him he "deserves" a better car?

Just being optimistic :)

Well played. Btw, for half a second I thought you name was Mongoose.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11084 on: October 23, 2015, 01:23:02 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport.

No facepunch from me. I find current TSA and airline interactions intolerable while completely sober, one can't bring liquids through check-in, and obviously drinking to a sufficient level of inebriation before leaving the house isn't wise (or legal, if you drive to the airport). The only remaining option for getting through the mandatory poke-and-grope without doing something arrest-worthy is to buy the overpriced booze.

"Travelers may carry as many 3.4 ounce bottles of liquid (mini bottles of liquor are 1.7 ounces) that fit comfortably in one, quart sized, clear plastic, zip-top bag. Comfortable means that the bag will seal without busting at the seams. One bag is permitted per passenger."

You can bring mini bottles through security and drink em in the terminal. Technically you can't open them on the flight itself but they're not likely to catch you. I've brought a few mini whiskey bottles and bought a $2 drip coffee to add them to once I'm in the terminal.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2014/01/tsa-travel-tips-tuesday-traveling-with.html
http://imatravelninja.com/2012/05/16/take-alcohol-to-drink-on-your-flight/

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11085 on: October 23, 2015, 01:39:50 PM »
Not necessarily a popular opinion apparently, but I just took the time to look up the cost of tapwater in NYC. Google says NYC water costs $3.39 for 100 cubic feet - or $0.0045 per gallon. That means you can take home the jugs and fill them for $0.09. You decide whether to bill the company at the going rate or not.
Yes, this sounds like an excellent plan. All I'd have to do is schlep 320 pounds of water per month via two elevators, two stairwells, and 4 miles of rush hour subway. Totally worth it for $20/mo after taxes.
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« Reply #11086 on: October 23, 2015, 01:54:11 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport.

No facepunch from me. I find current TSA and airline interactions intolerable while completely sober, one can't bring liquids through check-in, and obviously drinking to a sufficient level of inebriation before leaving the house isn't wise (or legal, if you drive to the airport). The only remaining option for getting through the mandatory poke-and-grope without doing something arrest-worthy is to buy the overpriced booze.

"Travelers may carry as many 3.4 ounce bottles of liquid (mini bottles of liquor are 1.7 ounces) that fit comfortably in one, quart sized, clear plastic, zip-top bag. Comfortable means that the bag will seal without busting at the seams. One bag is permitted per passenger."

You can bring mini bottles through security and drink em in the terminal. Technically you can't open them on the flight itself but they're not likely to catch you. I've brought a few mini whiskey bottles and bought a $2 drip coffee to add them to once I'm in the terminal.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2014/01/tsa-travel-tips-tuesday-traveling-with.html
http://imatravelninja.com/2012/05/16/take-alcohol-to-drink-on-your-flight/

Yup, I've done that before and had a TSA agent stare at me and then wink before clearing me. That is true, you technically cannot open them on your plane, so if you are going to, then do so discretely. I doubt passengers care, but flight attendants could get into trouble, so yeah there's that.

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« Reply #11087 on: October 23, 2015, 03:28:17 PM »
At the airport just now...

Bartender:  Yeah, some people worry about their credit score and stuff like that...not me.

Patron 1:  I absolutely LOVE my car!  I don't care what happens I am not getting rid of it no matter what! 

I could only hear part of the coversation, but I can imagine how the rest of it went.

Oh and a facepunch for me for paying for a drink at the airport.

No facepunch from me. I find current TSA and airline interactions intolerable while completely sober, one can't bring liquids through check-in, and obviously drinking to a sufficient level of inebriation before leaving the house isn't wise (or legal, if you drive to the airport). The only remaining option for getting through the mandatory poke-and-grope without doing something arrest-worthy is to buy the overpriced booze.

"Travelers may carry as many 3.4 ounce bottles of liquid (mini bottles of liquor are 1.7 ounces) that fit comfortably in one, quart sized, clear plastic, zip-top bag. Comfortable means that the bag will seal without busting at the seams. One bag is permitted per passenger."

You can bring mini bottles through security and drink em in the terminal. Technically you can't open them on the flight itself but they're not likely to catch you. I've brought a few mini whiskey bottles and bought a $2 drip coffee to add them to once I'm in the terminal.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2014/01/tsa-travel-tips-tuesday-traveling-with.html
http://imatravelninja.com/2012/05/16/take-alcohol-to-drink-on-your-flight/

Yup, I've done that before and had a TSA agent stare at me and then wink before clearing me. That is true, you technically cannot open them on your plane, so if you are going to, then do so discretely. I doubt passengers care, but flight attendants could get into trouble, so yeah there's that.

Unfortunately I have to fit toiletries and contact lens fluid in the bag too. By the time I've crammed them in, there's not enough room for a sufficient amount of libation to make the ruse worthwhile.

Financially it would probably be more optimal to bring booze and purchase toiletries upon arrival, however I often don't have flexible transportation onsite.
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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11088 on: October 23, 2015, 03:34:43 PM »

Unfortunately I have to fit toiletries and contact lens fluid in the bag too. By the time I've crammed them in, there's not enough room for a sufficient amount of libation to make the ruse worthwhile.


Good news: contact lens fluid is exempt from the 1 quart bag rule. it's considered medical. Just like aerosol inhalers for asthma and the like. I brought a big bottle of solution (the hydrogen peroxide kind, no less) on the plane in a separate bag and nobody batted an eyelash.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11089 on: October 23, 2015, 04:00:56 PM »
I *LOVE* those places!  DW and I make a point of going once every year or two.  Yes, it's a splurge.  But we also make sure we can afford it first :)  And in our eyes, it's worth it every once in a while.

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I'm not opposed to the concept in any fashion... just opposed to a debt-ridden friend overpaying to experience it. :(

Confession:  Ex-boyfriend and I loved Fogo de Chao but rarely went, so as part of our vacation, when we had an 8-hour layover in Atlanta, we took MARTA up to Buckhead to eat there, and then MARTA back to the airport.  We were so freakin' stuffed from dinner that I had to walk slowly so as not to puke, and boyfriend had to make a pit stop in The Container Store (sorry, everyone!)  :-)

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« Reply #11090 on: October 23, 2015, 05:26:39 PM »
*Insert evil idea to unplug kettle and see how long it takes them to figure it out tomorrow*

Do it.

Have you done it? That story is one of my all-time Overheard at Work favourites - I need a part two!

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« Reply #11091 on: October 23, 2015, 05:40:23 PM »

Unfortunately I have to fit toiletries and contact lens fluid in the bag too. By the time I've crammed them in, there's not enough room for a sufficient amount of libation to make the ruse worthwhile.


Good news: contact lens fluid is exempt from the 1 quart bag rule. it's considered medical. Just like aerosol inhalers for asthma and the like. I brought a big bottle of solution (the hydrogen peroxide kind, no less) on the plane in a separate bag and nobody batted an eyelash.

That would have been good to know pre-LASIK! I use a bar shampoo when I travel so I generally don't have any liquids except for a travel thing of toothpaste, so there's plenty of room for booze in my bag!  :D

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« Reply #11092 on: October 23, 2015, 07:41:27 PM »
*Insert evil idea to unplug kettle and see how long it takes them to figure it out tomorrow*
Given the wimpy 110v electric here it takes so long to boil the kettle that I don't think unplugging it makes any real difference.

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« Reply #11093 on: October 25, 2015, 12:22:25 PM »
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We have a 4% match which isn't amazing, but it's still free money... In fact, the very highly paid employees (we're talking mid to high 6 figures) contribute 0%.

To be fair, when you're making 500-900k, a <$2k match plus an $18k tax shelter becomes trivial. Although, it doesn't like they're saying the way they should

Wait, how would it be a $2,000 match if you were making $500,000 per year? A match is generally expressed as the first X% of the salary you defer. At $500,000 per year, I think you could contribute the full $18,000 (3.6% of salary) and receive an $18,000 match, since the first 4% of contributions are matched.

I used to work as a pension administrator, so saw the details of many companies plans.  Some match a flat %, for example, 10% of contributions.  So $18,000 in contributions would get $1,800 match.  I will say that 4% is pretty low for for a flat % match. But hey, some employers are stingy.  Maybe this is the assumption that Gondolin was working under?
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« Reply #11094 on: October 25, 2015, 04:47:22 PM »
Facepunch me.

I spent $50 on california legacy plates.

They look fantastic.

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« Reply #11095 on: October 25, 2015, 07:07:51 PM »
Facepunch me.

I spent $50 on california legacy plates.

They look fantastic.

I refuse to facepunch you. I looked them up and that sounds pretty cool! Be thankful you don't live in Texas, where the standard plates are specifically designed to be hideously ugly (far worse than CA's standard plates). But, in Texas, you can buy an optional plate that looks a lot better, designed by a for-profit company. Pretty much the only vehicles in Texas that don't have the extra cost (and much more attractive) plates are rental cars. (No, I don't live in TX, but visited there and noticed the huge discrepancy between the "have" and "have not" license plates, and investigated it a little further.)

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« Reply #11096 on: October 25, 2015, 08:52:15 PM »
Finally have a good one to share-

A friend and coworker currently lives in a nice apartment in the downtown area that is extremely walkable/bikeable and well-serviced by public transportation, and hasn't owned a car because he lives only a few blocks away from where we work. He recently gave his notice to work for another company, where he'll be working remotely from his apartment. Nothing wrong with that decision- they offered him ~$15k more than what he's making now and it's a good company, and he's reporting to a former coworker that we both respect.

However, within a month of starting his new job he went out and bought a $40k dodge charger, which he has no need for since he works from home and really has no need for one in the area we live in! Even worse, since he didn't have a car when he moved into his apartment complex he's no longer able to purchase a full-time parking permit for the garage, so the only option was a permit that's only valid for 6pm-8am that's to be used for customer parking to the retail stores on the ground floor. This means that every day he has to wake up and go out to move his car to the street parking, and then he brings it back into the garage each night. Furthermore, there's limited long-term street parking nearby, so if it's full he has to park in the 2-hour parking zone and move it every couple hours. He's had the car for like 2 weeks and has already gotten several tickets.

He's young and is otherwise a pretty bright guy but this decision just floored me, and I made sure to tell him how stupid and impractical I think he's being!


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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11097 on: October 26, 2015, 02:43:11 AM »

Good news: contact lens fluid is exempt from the 1 quart bag rule. it's considered medical. Just like aerosol inhalers for asthma and the like. I brought a big bottle of solution (the hydrogen peroxide kind, no less) on the plane in a separate bag and nobody batted an eyelash.

Worth a try, sure, but I think at some airports that would get confiscated. My friend recently flew with liquid medicine for her son with her, and because she couldn't produce a prescription at the security checkpoint, it was taken. She was like, "But it's prescription only medication, how will I get any more?!" and they were like, not our problem. The prescription label would have sufficed, apparently, but it was on the box not the bottle, and she'd thrown the box away.

So since no-one has a prescription for contact solution I don't think that would fly (geddit?) in all locations (this was in the UK FWIW). But sometime's it's worth chancing it because we all know they miss stuff regularly, and if you're stuck with hotel lobby prices, ugh.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #11098 on: October 26, 2015, 07:45:34 AM »
Worth a try, sure, but I think at some airports that would get confiscated. My friend recently flew with liquid medicine for her son with her, and because she couldn't produce a prescription at the security checkpoint, it was taken. She was like, "But it's prescription only medication, how will I get any more?!" and they were like, not our problem. The prescription label would have sufficed, apparently, but it was on the box not the bottle, and she'd thrown the box away.

She should have written CONTACT SOLUTION on the bottle.

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« Reply #11099 on: October 26, 2015, 08:45:18 AM »
I still want more foam on pickles!  or where to buy jeans, or school books, or TSA and contact solution...or I'm sure something next about a Dodge Charger.

So, let's say that we read a "Overheard at Work" thread about something actually overheard at work.  Our response might be a similar experience or related experience, as opposed to going off on a tangent for page after page after page.  Does this help those that don't understand what "foam" means?
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